Panoramic RV Episode 12 - Walk Through and One Year Review
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
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00:00 Intro
00:59 The Exterior
04:14 The Cab Area
06:03 The Foyer
13:23 The Galley
19:24 The Bathroom
21:14 The Bedroom
24:21 The Garage
26:51 Closing Comments
29:21 The Blooper Reel!
Hey, Steve here. Well, Janet and I have owned our Panoramic RV - Harvey the RV - for a year now. It's the first 2022 US Chassis Ram ProMaster 3500 that Panoramic shipped and we are really enjoying it!
So, here is your opportunity to see one of the best Class B RVs on the market, in terms of what really matters: the floor plan, quality build and smart design!
If you have any questions please ask in the comments section below. If you like this content please consider subscribing!
If you are considering purchasing a Panoramic RV and would like to save $500 on the price, contact me at my email address. If you dig around on my UA-cam channel a little you can find my email address.
I have watched hundreds of RV tours, including vans and this was the very best tour I have ever seen! You folks are calm and efficient with a perfect flowing rhythm. Measurements for every space - THANK YOU! Your tour video should be the industry standard. Definitely going to check out Panoramic. Thank you both for such a thoughtful video.
You are literally much too kind! This is the first video on this channel where both me and my wife appear on camera! I feel like we still have a lot of room for improvement. This was just our attempt to share information on our Panoramic RV.
Thank you so much for your do diligence in creating a very informative and concise SHARE of this BEAUTIFUL CLASS B VAN! I have been looking and dreaming about this Van for 2 years now. It seems to be the most top rated Van currently in its Class with design, functionality and QUALITY! I was very glad to hear that this is your first Van as well and that you had the same concerns as I do, not having owned a prior Van either.
Happy Travels... and I look forward to seeing & meeting you on the road🤩🙏🥰
Excellent video!! Super helpful. The amount of useful information you have packed into this is amazing and really appreciated!
I follow a few RV reviewers. Even though I have no plans to buy or travel in one, the Class B vans are my favorite. I like the compactness, drivability and stealthiness of the class B. My bench mark is always the refrigerator. Most have tiny college dorm fridges. Yours is the perfect size and fits!
The Panoramic floorpan and features really do set it apart from other Class Bs. I think the refrigerator is one of the largest you could put in a Class B. Others use "dorm refrigerators" that are placed between the floor and the galley counter. The tanks are pretty big, too, for a Class B: fresh water 35 gallons, gray tank 24 gallons and black tank 16 gallons. I also like the large permanent bed.
Super informative review! REALLY helpful, thank you! We are in similar position as newbies as you were so appreciate your detailed review.
Thank you, I'm glad it was helpful!
Thank you for your walk through. Up until January 2024, we had never heard of the Panoramic class B RV before. We saw one at a nearby RV dealer while we were getting our Roadtrek Simplicity repaired. After seeing your walk through we were able to see many more features of the Panoramic than we saw just looking inside one at the dealership. My wife and I are kind of new to RVing, even though we’ve had a camper and camper van that we made up ourselves in the 1980’s. But having a class B is definitely the way to go for the two of us. Maybe if we win a lottery we can afford,a Panoramic. Thanks again for the video.
Thank you for your kind comments. We heard about the Panoramic RV for the first time on the Ultramobility UA-cam channel in the fall of 2020. We ordered one three weeks later! This is our first RV and we are really enjoying it!
Thank you so very much for taking the time to give measurements for every bit of storage. I really appreciate your thoughtfulness. I have owned a class C previously and am looking for a B van now. You both seem to be very happy with the Panoramic and as I am a widow now, I too am looking for a vehicle I can depend on. Great job in your review! Hope to meet you on the road some day.
I've read comments in other RV videos. A lot of the questions have to do with storage dimensions so I took the time to include them in my Panoramic RV review. We ARE both very happy with the Panoramic and their five year warranty.
Thanks for your response. I'm in a cold climate(Calgary)and wonder how the batteries Panoramic uses would stand up in very cold temperatures. Should the chance present itself, I would love to see an in depth video on the electrical system along the lines of the very good winterization episode.
Thank you for sharing! It’s brief yet enough information for the essential details like the measurements and their functions. Very easy to watch and get a good idea about Panoramic!
Thank you, Anna!
One of the best tours I've seen. Panoramic really does seem like a great design. Happy travels... be seeing you!
Thank you very much! I just subscribed to your channel!
@@panoramictravels Oh wow... Thanks! Let me know what you think of our Embassy build!
Excellent tour. Very detailed and to the point. Thank You !
Thank you for your comment!
Excellent video, concise yet thorough!
Thank you!
Please keep the videos coming! Maybe you can do one showing how to use all the PowerMaster dashboard controls? And another one on cleaning the solar panels?
I might do one going over the dashboard controls. I have 16 solar panels on my house. I spray them with a garden hose periodically. I plan to do the same with the RV solar panels.
Thank you both for this very helpful and informative "walk-through". You covered items that I have had questions about and showed up close and personal each aspect of the Panoramic; very helpful!
Thank you, Wendy!
Great video!... one of the most comprehensive videos on any van. Very helpful in giving all the measurements.
Thank you very much! It's our first walk through video, but we know the Panoramic pretty well since we have owned and have been traveling in it for a year now!
Genius for the convertible bench seat into a bed. Assuming it’s ok to travel with this down it’s a perfect place to safely buckle in dogs with bonus they can stretch out.
That hadn't occurred to me, but yes, there should not be a problem with the dining area set up as a bed while traveling.
Excellant review.
Thanks!
Ty so much for this review, even if had watch as you did , a lots of Rv review on UA-cam and more , yours and the best for me. Mostly the comments you made about what’s was the points for a Panoramic. I will have my Panoramic in 2025 ( If i don’t change my mind ) . So thank you again . I’m a french Canadian so excuse my English 😊. Merci beaucoup !!
Thank you! Don't change your mind - you will love the Panoramic!
Your work is perfect! Thank you for this presentation. I hope to be able to see you next gathering with other Panoramic owner in summer 2024 in Quebec. See you out there.
Thank you! Yes, we plan on being at the gathering in June 2024!
Excellent video!
Thank you!
Steve, your one year review is outstanding. Not only is it thorough, but also well produced. I believe the two best Class Bs are Embassy and Panoramic. But Embassy goes too far with no black tank, whereas Panoramic takes the best of popular national brands (like Winnebago ) floor plans with the quality of custom vans (but they dislike bathrooms.) Grech may be high quality but boring floor plan like Coachmen. Panoramic combines the best of all of them.
Thank you, you're too kind! I'm still getting comfortable in front of the camera. We have looked at a lot of RVs over the years. The Panoramic was the best choice for us.
Great review and great info. I do wish the website had more documentation available but still looks like a great class b. Not sure I feel comfortable with the location of the black tank (clearance) but I might need to see that in person.
@@bernie.b any questions you might have can be directed to the owner of Panoramic Philippe Marcotte at pm@vrpanoramic.ca. As for the black tank clearance, it hasn't been a problem for us in our first 15,000 miles. The Ram ProMaster is front wheel drive only, it's not really meant for off-roading where the clearance might be an issue.
What a great video!
Thank you for sharing the measurements of all the cabinets and the storage space. My van is arriving at the end of the month.
Super helpful as I'm trying to buy containers for the RV.
Thanks, I'm glad the video helped! Congratulations on getting you Pano later this month!
Excellent tour, Thanks
Thank you!
Awesome tour! Really appreciated the detailed info and especially the measurements of things. Very helpful!
Thanks, it's the first time we ever made an RV walkthrough video. Having familiarized ourselves with the Panoramic RV for a year helped!
A 5 year warranty? Up to 600 amps of battery power? That's amazing. That's just like the Pleasure Way models. Thank you for making this video.
Yes, the five year warranty is great, and Panoramic has honored it for the few problems we have had during our first 14 months of ownership!
Yes, Panoramic now has a 600 Amp hour option. 440 Amp hours was the most that was available when we placed our order. 440 Amp hours is plenty for us. I don't think we have ever seen the battery level below 65%.
how many days of off-grid (boondocking) could you do if you were not driving? I am curious about the autonomy of the batteries with a 2-way fridge. thank you!
@@panoramictravels
@@Donnadrury100 It depends on what resource goes first: batteries depleted, propane empty, fresh tank empty, grey/black tanks full. Batteries are easy because you can just drive for an hour or so to charge (or partially charge) them. Propane will depend on how cold it is. Heating the RV will be the biggest draw along with heating water for showers and cooking. You can augment the fresh water supply by bringing collapsible water bags (we have four 2.5 gallon bags).
You should watch a video I will be posting within the next few days "Heading Southeast - Part 1" where I provide some charts at the end of the video discussing the levels of all of these resources over the course of a 26 day trip.
I watched your latest video last night and found it very interesting. Thank you. I have always had a three-way fridge in my RVs in the past and can boondock until my tanks fill (or empty) which under normal use is 4-5 days. I am nervous about going towards a 2-way fridge as we rarely plug in. Having said that, I think this fridge is much more efficient and there is a better battery and solar panel setup on the Panoramic RV. @@panoramictravels
@@Donnadrury100 this is our first RV so I don't have any experience with a 3-way fridge. I can tell you that I have never had any concerns about the 2-way fridge drawing too much power. But, it will depend on your battery capacity, how long you stay in one place without driving, and to a lesser extend, how much sun is shining on the solar panels.
So very informative! In love with this Panoramic.
Thanks, Bev! So are we!
Excellent video, very well made. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Thank you, Marc! That's my mission with this retirement hobby - share our travel experiences, hopefully in an informative and entertaining way!
Just an amazing RV!!!
It is! We're really lucky that our first RV is so well built and has such a great floor plan!
Thanks from Portugal, you did an excellent job!
Hello, Portugal! We have been to many European countries, but haven't made it to Portugal yet. It's on our list! Thank you for watching!
Very informative & nicely done!
Thank you!
❤ This was a super helpful walk through video. Thank you!
Thank you, Maria!
Great video. We just got our panoramic in May. Except for the color, it’s pretty much identical to yours.
Congratulations on your new Panoramic!
Excellent video! On Monday, we are wiring our deposit money for a 2024 Panoramic and can't wait to start using it!! Please post a link to the mat that you use to protect the kitchen sink. Also a link for the paper towel holder (if it doesn't require drilling holes). Do you miss not having a pull-out spray nozzle for washing down the sides of the sink?
Now that's how you do a review! One question re the coach batteries please. What brand of battery did they give you and are they self heating lithium style?
I don't know the battery brand. They are lithium, but I don't think they're self-heating. They remounted inside the RV in the garage area to the left of the left-side drawers.
Nice. I was really thinking this might be the RV for me until you got to the bed. It is a deal killer. The RV is too short. It needs to be 20" longer so one can sleep front to back, not side to side, thereby allowing use of the bed without one person having to climb over the other.
I get it. The bed is great, but when my wife (who sleeps in the back) needs to get up in the middle of the night she wakes me up and I get out of the bed. This is one of our least favorite aspects of the Panoramic RV.
The problem is that in a 21' van if the bed was configured front to back it would force the kitchen, dining area and/or bathroom to be smaller.
Here is a possible solution, perhaps not ideal, but a solution nonetheless ... if there are two of you, one could sleep in the main bed and one could sleep in the dining area bed. That bed takes less than two minutes to set up.
Another possible solution might be future versions of the Panoramic. It is my understanding that they are looking at using a Ford Transit or Mercedes Sprinter. These vans tend to be too narrow for a side to side bed, so they might offer the front to back configuration you're looking for.
Great walkthrough! Are they planning to open dealers in the US in the near future? I believe the Panoramic is a game changer and will take a jab at the ever popular Winnebago Travato with even a higher build quality and feature rich offerings.
Thanks, Sean! They use dealers in Canada, but I think they are going to sell direct in the US. The Pano and the Travato both have similar floor plans and are built on the Ram ProMaster 3500 ... but that is where the similarity ends!
If you are lounging in the van reading a book, working on your laptop, etc . .. do you find yourself siting in the bench facing the front of the van, or are you sitting in one of the swivel seats facing the table? This is how i spend a lot of my time in the van especially in the winter months. I am wondering if you find the lounge area large enough and comfortable to 'hang out in' as well as to have a meal for 2. Thanks.
Hi, Jay! I usually sit in the cab seat when hanging out - or having a meal - in the lounge area. Janet and I definitely feel that it is large enough for the two of us to have a meal. We have actually had dinner for four a few times!
Love all your videos! We have nearly the identical Panoramic. We haven’t figured out how to take the shower curtain off for washing. Any clues? Thanks much
Thanks! Sorry, I know the curtain can be removed and washed, but I'm not sure how to remove the curtain.
Love this coach!! Great review, thanks so much! Curious about the bed. Is it comfortable? Did you have to upgrade the mattress like most RVers do in other rigs? We are older and usually have to get up in the night. How hard is it to get up from the far side without waking your partner? Thanks again!
The bed is very comfortable. There is an optional mattress for around $1,000. We got the standard mattress and added a memory foam top (see modifications video: ua-cam.com/video/V4Dxm2K2Zwg/v-deo.html). My wife sleeps on the far side and wakes me up when she needs to get up in the middle of the night. She did climb over me once, but I don't think it's a good idea.
Hi. At 15:28, you show posts and pans. What brand/model are they? Thank you.
You are very observant! We have one small Teflon pan and then a seven piece set from Magma. We bought them because they are "nestable" (don't take up much room) and can work with an induction cooktop. Here is a link: magmaproducts.com/products/nesting-cookware-set-7-piece
Thank you so much! We ordered a set last night. @@panoramictravels
Hello Steve Great review.. a couple of questions 1) you ordered in Oct, 2020. Picked up Sep 2022.. What year is the Promaster..Chasity ?
2) When you ordered was the price set in 2020 ? waiting almost Two years did the price go up ? And last by picking up in New York did that save a lot on destinations fees?**. You now have had it over a year & half any major problems? Thanks, Bill
The Ram ProMaster 3500 chassis is a 2022 model year and was built for the US market.
The price was set for what was available when we ordered. By the time it was ready to build Philippe contacted us and we reviewed the order. Some items that were options in 2020 had become standard. Other options that were not available in 2020 were available in 2022. So, adjustments were made.
Yes, the price went up because the price Panoramic had to pay Ram went up. I think this was a function of Covid-related supply chain issues and the fact that the 2022 ProMaster had better features than the 2020 ProMaster.
Panoramic would have delivered to our house in Michigan for several thousand dollars. We chose to pick it up at their Plattsburgh office at no charge to us.
We have had a few problems. Initially, some major ProMaster-related problems, which have been corrected. We have had a few minor Panoramic-related problems which Panoramic repaired under our five year warranty.
Thanks for the video! I am awaiting my Panoramic delivery next Spring. How long can the AC run on the battery?
Hi, Sean, congratulations on your future Panoramic RV! The amount of time you can run the AC without shore power will depend on your battery capacity (we have 440 Amp hours) and what AC setting you're using. My best guess is that we could run it moderate to full for a few hours, but I've never put it to the test. You might want to ask at tech@panoramicrv.com.
@@panoramictravels thank you for the answer!
Very nice and thorough review. Once I am ready I will absolutely purchase one. Can panoramic offer ram chassis with adaptive cruise control? What is current price with base configuration and waiting time? Thanks.
Thank you! Ram will have to offer the adaptive cruise control. It was supposed to be on the 2022 Model Year US chassis. It wasn't. To the best of my knowledge it isn't on the 2023 either. Once Ram offers it I'm sure Panoramic will include it.
We ordered ours in October 2020 and picked it up in September 2022. I don't know what the current prices are or waiting time. You should contact Panoramic for that information. Philippe's email is pm@vrpanoramic.ca.
I think the 2024 model is supposed to have Adaptive Cruise Control.
@@renateotto3567 that would be nice!
A better Winnebago ...just need a cassette toilet and a Murphy bed
I agree the quality, in my opinion, is better than a Winnebago. We actually prefer the black tank compared to a cassette toilet. We have to dump the gray tank anyway; we might as well dump a black tank, too. Also, most cassette toilets only have a 5 gallon capacity. Our black tank has a 16 gallon capacity. We are 12 days into a trip right now and our black tank is at 63 percent. One more point, the Panoramic does have a murphy bed, but we always leave it down.
Does the bathroom have a vent, fan , or opening window?
No, but the MaxxAir Fan is located in the hallway right outside of the bathroom.
hi Steve, if you live in the USA and purchase this rig, how do you get warranty repairs done
Yes, we live in the USA and purchased the RV directly from the manufacturer. This was a big question for me before we made the purchase.
Warranty repairs are handled depending on the issue. The technical staff are very responsive. There might be some phone and/or email troubleshooting. Once the cause of the problem is determined my experience has been that: 1) they will send a technician to our location; 2) we/I can travel to their facility; or 3) Panoramic will work with a repair center near me and pay the costs. They have gone out of their way to resolve the few issues we have had in a professional and prompt manner.
how this compares to an airstream range line?
All I know is they're both based on the Ram ProMaster 3500. I like the Panoramic floor plan better and suspect the Panoramic build quality is better. Here is a link for the Rangeline for more information: www.airstream.com/touring-coaches/rangeline/
Having acquired in the US how did the purchase go considering these are manufactured in Quebec and there is
a limited US dealer network to purchase from and service.
What issues have you had to date and how were they resolved. Are you still satisfied with overall quality.
Will be traveling with a pet. Does AC operate off battery (How long) or does it only run when connected to
shore power. Can you set AC to automatically go on/off at set temp.
Have been considering Pleasureway Ontour 2.2 on Ford chassis all wheel drive. How has the Ram Promaster
performed and held up so far.
The purchase went very smoothly. We put down a deposit when we placed our order. We financed the rest when we picked up Harvey the RV in Plattsburgh, NY. The paperwork took five minutes. Then, Panoramic had a representative walk us through all of the systems (and took us to lunch!). Service - with their five year warranty - has never been an issue. The Panoramic tech support team always reply quickly to emails and phone calls. Often times the issue can be resolved over the phone or with an email. Other issues include having work down locally, Pano tech working with the local service facility to resolve the issue and Panoramic paying the local facility. In rare cases, Panoramic will send a technician to your RV's location!
The main issues we have had were Ram ProMaster related, not Pano related. I made a few videos of that. Yes, we are very happy with the quality!
Yes, the new Truma AC unit can run off of the batteries - if you get the larger capacity option - and it can be programmed with the TrumaCombi Controller. When our RV was built 440 Amp-hours was the maximum offered and that's what we got. Now, I think they offer up to 600 Amp-hours. There are a lot of variables as to how long the AC will run off of batteries. All I can say is it is probably in hours, not days. Of, course you can drive the RV to charge the batteries. There are devices, like the Waggle, that can alert you when the temperature is above or below a preset range.
Other than the Ram problems we had in the first few months of ownership, it has been great. It's front wheel drive only, unlike the Ford Transit, for example. Panoramic is working on designs, by the way, for the Ford Transit and the Mercedes Sprinter.
@@panoramictravels Steve, thank you for your input. Can you elaborate on the ProMaster issues you have had and how many miles you now have on the van.
@@RuthAnneBrossman We have 22,000 miles after 1.5 years and seven major road trips. To elaborate on the Ram issue - which is now a distant memory - here is the transcript from my Pano RV Episode 6:
As I mentioned in Episode 5, I started up the RV and the Service Transmission Warning came on along with other warnings. I could put it in gear, but it was very clunky. I could drive it, but with the pedal to the floor, it would only go about 20 miles an hour.
So, I called Chrysler Roadside Assistance and they sent out a tow truck to take it to a local Ram dealership, namely Szott M59 Ram dealership. Cate, the Service Manager had told me when I dropped it off that it might take a week or two before they even looked at it.
Well, four days later they hooked up their OBD2 (On Board Diagnostic Version 2) equipment, made note of the stored warning codes and then cleared them. A few days later they drove the RV, started and stopped it (what Cate called “key cycles”) and they could not reproduce any of the warnings. They did notice that a software update was available for the Powertrain Control Module so they updated it.
I’m going to chalk this up to a “computer glitch” and am hoping it doesn’t come back anytime soon!
where and how did you purchase your rig?
We purchased it directly from the manufacturer, Panoramic RV. They are located in Chambly, Quebec, Canada.
You can email the owner Philippe Marcotte at pm@vrpanoramic.ca. Ask him for an Order Guide.