Eflite did a poll a couple months ago on the next scale EDF. The 4 choices were the F9 Cougar, F16XL, X29, and the F106. The F16XL won the poll, so we just might get one ;)
Congrats on the 100k sub milestone, Jon! I should pay better attention to those things, if it happened a while ago. Guess thats a testament to how enthralling your videos are. Amazing Freewing jet here. But, they seem to put those out pretty regularly. Those back flips were cool AF. Loved your reaction 😂 Great job keeping Jon's stick jamming in frame, Liz. Love the supportive commentary, too 👍
Wow, that was fun to watch and a really cool setup. I don't know about this one, a bit pricey, but I'd be onboard for the F-16XL for sure. Great video Jon, AirHammer out!!
When Jandro explained it to us too, it was mind blowing. The air does indeed flow over the top, but it also flows under, and the canards help shape the air like a slot and make the vortices coming off the canards stick to the wings - which keeps the jet from stalling at higher angles of attack. But this only works if the canards are pointed at the right angle, which is why the jet performed so much better after the live canard change!
Whoa. Those canards look delicious!! 🤤🤤🤤 Look at that sexy high alpha with negative trim... aaaaah 🤤 Great video Jon! Glad to see my canard suggestions worked out! ;)
Another fantastic review John 👍 Have you ever flown/ reviewed the 90mm FW F16? I am curious if it is decent when you get the ARF model and put modern electronics into it (the same that come with the J10 for instance). You are a big fan of the FMS 80mm F16, but it is heavy for the thrust.
Ok, I have a somewhat newer question here. I use your programming ideas all the time and enjoy your videos. Thanks for taking some mystery out of my iX20. Now, I have a friend with a NX10 and he’s doing the new update. Will that allow for canards as well as a wing type? Or do I need to use your iX14 type trickery to make canards work on the NX10(20)? He’s acquired a second hand J-10 and I want to help him program his NX10 with the spektrum 10ch AS3X/safe receiver. Currently the 8ch receiver he is using has run out of channels. Thanks for the awesome and consistent content!
All Spektrum radios with the latest firmware will allow for a canard tail type - but we'll cover why that's not an ideal way to set up your jet in a video coming soon. We plan to go deep into AS3X+ and explain how to set up canards and other auxiliary surfaces and dive into the aerodynamic theory of why our setups work so well. For immediate assistance, the best place to ask these questions is Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord See you there!
Definitely use the outboard control surfaces for ailerons. It will retain roll control at higher AOA that way. If you only use inboard then the ability to roll will dissappear as it enters a stall.
19:20 Theres actually a guy who is a big fan of yours, in his F16-XL video he mentioned your channel lately! He designed a 3d printed F16-XL for a 50mm fan, he may scale that up to a bigger fan in the future. "BUILT FAST" is the channel
@@TwoBrosRC I just watched some and couldnt find it. It was within the last week or so in an F16 related video, it looks like he has about four F16 vids lately. He flew the plane, landed it, and then started talking about CG and your channel/videos. So take a look at his f16 vids and skip to where he is fiddeling with the plane on the ground after flying
At a crossroads presently: buy the F22 or J-10 or Eurofighter V3 that you tested 4months ago. I fly from manicured grass fields. I Which plane would you recommend? Thanks
It's a tossup between the F-22 and J-10. We'd make some money off the J-10 if you bought it using our affiliate link, but the F-22 is also a very capable jet even if we don't currently get paid for recommending it. Depends on what you want to do: High alpha: J-10 Abuse angle of attack: J-10 Speedy passes: F-22 Dramatic post-stall maneuvering: F-22 Hop on Discord and chat with us about it. Maybe you'll figure out what's best for you there: bit.ly/TBRCDiscord
that jet was absolutely awesome. I am a novice with remote control flying. You could say its my mid-life crisis 😂 😂. I reside in Australia, Sydney to be precise, I am a professional within the health care science industry. Could you possibly suggest to me a remote control plane for the beginner remote control flyer. something that is still large enough you know that its in the sky, with an electric engine. As I do not have the time nor the skills as yet to play with a fuelled engine as a beginner. Very much appreciated, Anthony
Hello ant,, ye think it was my mid life too,, im in melbourne(mexican 4 u) thisjet would not be 4 u,, any hi wing trainer would b ok.. start off at the smaller sizes (cheaper) incase u crash, like i did,, or find a club in ur area,, im in bout 8 years now,, fuuun. Good luck😮
@@TwoBrosRC Oh boy, back "in the day" you we're hailing the Euro 90, and at the time for good reason, glad I waited, because my knee jerk FMS EDF Jet 80mm Rafale has become a hanger queen bore for me! :(
Rafale is a fantastic airframe and still one of our favorite jets - specifically because it's possible to get a neutral CG without major reconstructive work, and the full span elevons make it very agile in the sky.
J-10 because it has more pitch authority and requires less work to get an aft CG. We'll be comparing Gripen, the J-10, and Eurofighter in the near future with AS3X+.
If all I had to fly were models of jets modeled after the Chinese air force especially one named Vigorous Dragon, I would stop flying RC completely. It comes as no surprise to me that a Chinese company makes a model of one of their air forces' fighters that flies really well. Or does it really fly that well? Give them away instead of selling them, to prove just how good they fly. You could not give me this model. I would return it. It is already bad enough that most of these planes are made in China. I see no reason to remind myself every time I fly an RC plane. It is a disappointing subject for a video leading up to the July 4th holiday.
That's really narrow minded of you. Hopefully you'll learn to enjoy airplanes regardless of where they come from instead of trying to view everything in your life through political considerations.
A 90/80mm F-16 XL would be an INSTANT BUY!
Absolutely!
@@TwoBrosRC BuiltFast channel has done a 3d print version of it. Flies great for what it is.
Eflite did a poll a couple months ago on the next scale EDF. The 4 choices were the F9 Cougar, F16XL, X29, and the F106. The F16XL won the poll, so we just might get one ;)
@@Apexx_RCLFG
@@Apexx_RCduck the 16xl, imagine how cool the x29 would be
This video is just what I needed to watch before heading out to the club field.
This is why the J10 is one of the best 3D jets out there.
So glad you liked it so much Jon told you how much I’ve enjoyed mine.
@ 5:39 - " Don't think - Just DO! " - LOL
Well done, Jon!! Those back flips are wild! Crazy it can do them just as well as the small 70mm F16!
Looks like a fun jet to fly Jon. Hilarious when you used it as a blower...
Hey john. Holy moly this j-10 can flip! Love your youthful excitement. Its one agile bird..
I love the tail slide drifting. Like a hot rod in the sky..
Congrats on the 100k sub milestone, Jon! I should pay better attention to those things, if it happened a while ago. Guess thats a testament to how enthralling your videos are.
Amazing Freewing jet here. But, they seem to put those out pretty regularly. Those back flips were cool AF. Loved your reaction 😂
Great job keeping Jon's stick jamming in frame, Liz. Love the supportive commentary, too 👍
It's still kinda shocking to us that 100,000+ people have subscribed to the channel. Thanks man!
Jon, your plane pooed a little bit at 8:40 - LOL - guess your leaf blower didn't QUITE get the job done ;)
To be fair, the leaf blowing was AFTERWARD... not beforehand. So lol
And the lights are crazy good in dark flying. Soooo good 👍
Wow, that was fun to watch and a really cool setup. I don't know about this one, a bit pricey, but I'd be onboard for the F-16XL for sure. Great video Jon,
AirHammer out!!
Thanks for tip on the canards. I thought the air went over the top. Now it makes more sense. Thank you. Great video.
When Jandro explained it to us too, it was mind blowing. The air does indeed flow over the top, but it also flows under, and the canards help shape the air like a slot and make the vortices coming off the canards stick to the wings - which keeps the jet from stalling at higher angles of attack. But this only works if the canards are pointed at the right angle, which is why the jet performed so much better after the live canard change!
Whoa. Those canards look delicious!! 🤤🤤🤤
Look at that sexy high alpha with negative trim... aaaaah 🤤
Great video Jon! Glad to see my canard suggestions worked out! ;)
Thanks again buddy!
@@TwoBrosRC 🥰🥰🥰
The bug flew great!
Bug?
Until Jon swallowed it! 😂
Very cool looking jet.
Get yourself a partner as excited about aft CG placement as Mrs Two Bros is
Great vid Jon 👌 I love my J10A it does fly amazing. And landings are so easy and fun. 😊
YESSS I was waiting for this review!
Butter land ❤ So sweet edf!!
Another fantastic review John 👍 Have you ever flown/ reviewed the 90mm FW F16? I am curious if it is decent when you get the ARF model and put modern electronics into it (the same that come with the J10 for instance). You are a big fan of the FMS 80mm F16, but it is heavy for the thrust.
Haven't had a chance to fly the 90 F-16 yet. If they bring it back, we'll most likely fly it.
@@TwoBrosRC Oh ye, you're right it is out of stock... I hope they bring it back since it is the only 90mm F16 I know about...
@@xXRapToRiXxGamerit will be back 😉
The best canard fighter ever built.
Not sure about that, but still a neat jet for sure.
Battlefield 2 players remember this jet well.
Cussin Jon is amazing 🔥🔥
Ok, I have a somewhat newer question here. I use your programming ideas all the time and enjoy your videos. Thanks for taking some mystery out of my iX20. Now, I have a friend with a NX10 and he’s doing the new update. Will that allow for canards as well as a wing type? Or do I need to use your iX14 type trickery to make canards work on the NX10(20)? He’s acquired a second hand J-10 and I want to help him program his NX10 with the spektrum 10ch AS3X/safe receiver. Currently the 8ch receiver he is using has run out of channels. Thanks for the awesome and consistent content!
All Spektrum radios with the latest firmware will allow for a canard tail type - but we'll cover why that's not an ideal way to set up your jet in a video coming soon. We plan to go deep into AS3X+ and explain how to set up canards and other auxiliary surfaces and dive into the aerodynamic theory of why our setups work so well.
For immediate assistance, the best place to ask these questions is Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord
See you there!
@@TwoBrosRC joined. Thanks for the response
So in the end a rafale is the benchmark
Love it when you turn into caveman 11:20🤣
HOOOOOOHHHHH AHHHHHHHH
Definitely use the outboard control surfaces for ailerons. It will retain roll control at higher AOA that way. If you only use inboard then the ability to roll will dissappear as it enters a stall.
My favorite jet by far! Great review Jon! Would you mind doing a comparison video with the Eurofighter?
Perhaps in the future!
Love the roll rates when maxed out, battery way back, Flies great without a gyro, & Nice flat spins as well. Just Doesn't like inverted alphas 😂
Just like Eurofighter, it's not really an inverted high alpha kind of jet.
@TwoBrosRC fun trying tho lol check out our j10 review Jon! Valley flyers rc
19:20 Theres actually a guy who is a big fan of yours, in his F16-XL video he mentioned your channel lately! He designed a 3d printed F16-XL for a 50mm fan, he may scale that up to a bigger fan in the future. "BUILT FAST" is the channel
Couldn't find the callout you were mentioning, got a timestamp on his vid? That thing looked awesome!
@@TwoBrosRC I just watched some and couldnt find it. It was within the last week or so in an F16 related video, it looks like he has about four F16 vids lately. He flew the plane, landed it, and then started talking about CG and your channel/videos. So take a look at his f16 vids and skip to where he is fiddeling with the plane on the ground after flying
Holyyyyyyy this jet is sixk
At a crossroads presently: buy the F22 or J-10 or Eurofighter V3 that you tested 4months ago. I fly from manicured grass fields. I Which plane would you recommend? Thanks
It's a tossup between the F-22 and J-10. We'd make some money off the J-10 if you bought it using our affiliate link, but the F-22 is also a very capable jet even if we don't currently get paid for recommending it. Depends on what you want to do:
High alpha: J-10
Abuse angle of attack: J-10
Speedy passes: F-22
Dramatic post-stall maneuvering: F-22
Hop on Discord and chat with us about it. Maybe you'll figure out what's best for you there: bit.ly/TBRCDiscord
how do you compare this one vs the eurofighter?
You'll see soon, we'll be covering how Gripen, Eurofighter, and the J-10 stack up to one another!
Nice 🎉❤
can you just confirm you're flying on 6s? (my 8s got too hot :( (and wanting to try 6s)
This was a 6 cell setup, yes. You can see packs being installed in the vid. 😉
Thank you very much for the info and your videos!
that jet was absolutely awesome. I am a novice with remote control flying. You could say its my mid-life crisis 😂 😂. I reside in Australia, Sydney to be precise, I am a professional within the health care science industry. Could you possibly suggest to me a remote control plane for the beginner remote control flyer. something that is still large enough you know that its in the sky, with an electric engine. As I do not have the time nor the skills as yet to play with a fuelled engine as a beginner.
Very much appreciated, Anthony
Hello ant,, ye think it was my mid life too,, im in melbourne(mexican 4 u) thisjet would not be 4 u,, any hi wing trainer would b ok.. start off at the smaller sizes (cheaper) incase u crash, like i did,, or find a club in ur area,, im in bout 8 years now,, fuuun. Good luck😮
Oh and albury rc good place to get ( no not an ad) they r just good to deal with
Hey man! Definitely get started with an AeroScout.
Do I understand correctly that your beloved Freewing Eurofighter Typhoon High Performance 90mm is now in the passenger seat?
Yeah. The J-10 is what Eurofighter could have been. Kinda sad in retrospect, but good to see that Freewing continues to improve their aircraft.
@@TwoBrosRC Oh boy, back "in the day" you we're hailing the Euro 90, and at the time for good reason, glad I waited, because my knee jerk FMS EDF Jet 80mm Rafale has become a hanger queen bore for me! :(
Rafale is a fantastic airframe and still one of our favorite jets - specifically because it's possible to get a neutral CG without major reconstructive work, and the full span elevons make it very agile in the sky.
What your favorite beetween j-10 or eurofighter?
J-10 because it has more pitch authority and requires less work to get an aft CG. We'll be comparing Gripen, the J-10, and Eurofighter in the near future with AS3X+.
8:55 Wheelie Landing, ABORT…
Hello..what do you mean of 90mm..? Thanks..
I think that the motor or the electric ducted fan is 90mm.
It's the size of the motor.
@@TwoBrosRC that’s what I said
It's the diameter of the EDF.
Thanks..
Asking for 5min of flight time is reasonable - but that depends on the battery tech and battery manufacturers, not Freewing.
Batteries play a big part, but an efficient and powerful motor setup can make it significantly easier.
It’s both battery tech and motor/fan efficiency.
Do you think you’ll ever get into turbines?
One of these days, assuming we can ever afford one.
@@TwoBrosRC I’ll be here!
If all I had to fly were models of jets modeled after the Chinese air force especially one named Vigorous Dragon, I would stop flying RC completely. It comes as no surprise to me that a Chinese company makes a model of one of their air forces' fighters that flies really well. Or does it really fly that well? Give them away instead of selling them, to prove just how good they fly. You could not give me this model. I would return it.
It is already bad enough that most of these planes are made in China. I see no reason to remind myself every time I fly an RC plane. It is a disappointing subject for a video leading up to the July 4th holiday.
That's really narrow minded of you. Hopefully you'll learn to enjoy airplanes regardless of where they come from instead of trying to view everything in your life through political considerations.
It's a toy airplane that people fly as a hobby. You may be over thinking this a bit!