@@jamesbuchanan3145 I prefer Primary Arms but the Sig isn't far off. Between those two brands, it really comes down to what is on sale and which is not.
Impressed with the Primary Arms Nova that I just got (Military/LEO and other discounts sealed the deal). As mentioned the brightness and reticle is hard to beat for quickly transitioning from shooting close in and moving to targets one, two hundred yards away.
On my poverty pony radical firearms i have a firefield rapidstrike 1-6 x 24 it comes with a mount for $160. Has a throw lever illuminated circle reticle. I zeroed it years ago and have beat the living hell out of the rifle and scope and haven't had a problem with either.
I have to agree with you 100%. It's worth noting that C_Does did a review of the PA SLx 1-6x24 Nova and stated that if you could save the extra money then the Vortex PST Gen II 1-6x24 would be worth the extra money. Would love to see your picks of the Best Mid-Tier LPVOs that are less than 1,000 dollars.
it's more than just glass quality, the Nova is smaller and lighter by a big margin. I need to get a couple more mid range LPVOs before I make that video.
@@gundeals Can you do a budget , under 1000$ Spr/mpvo To shiwcase glx 2.5-10 Athlon both ares 2.5-15, Helos 2-12 And new swampfox warhawk 2-10 And 3-15, As well as others.
Excellent list and I’m greatly enjoying your #1 pick. I replaced a Vortex Viper PST Gen II with it for the weight savings. I’m going to make it a point to check out the Sig MSR 1-6, thanks.
Athlon 1-10 can be found for less than $400 when on sale, but this list is solid. I'd swap number 4 for number 2. Love my swampfox and those locking turrets are second to none. Chunky boi, but its great for my p&w 14.5 mid because i dont mind the extra weight when on a hunt but that clarity and dial are essential. One thing i didnt hear you cover was the warranty on any of these. Sig is spotty on customer service, vortex is pretty good if a little slow, but swampfox is absolutely the best warranty in the game. Primary Arms has great customer service.... But im still waiting on them to send my skittles.
Yeah if you can find something on a good sale that would shake the list up. I also like the Arrowheads quite a bit. I have personally had good experiences with all of the customer service.
@@gundeals I know u r dealer for primary Arms... Is that just optics or does it apply to barrels as well. I found the faxon 16" mid gas pencil Profile for 125 on P.A. today but was gonna check with u before the 4th of July and see if it's worth maybe waiting. It's Richard Cranium, btw... Not some rando.... I dunno why UA-cam being ghey and not showing my screen name. It's using my decades old email that's not even active anymore but I been getting dik'd lately.
I bought the sig msr 1-6x and was honestly disappointed with the glass quality and size of it. it's definitely decent and feels durable but I also have a throwaway victoptics 1-6x that only cost 80 bucks and it's more compact with clearer glass and a better 1x. I use it on air rifles and I doubt it's as durable but I was still a bit shocked
@gundeals don't get me wrong, it's a great scope, I think I just expected more from it than I should have. I'm honestly reluctant to swap it with the cheapo one I already had because the glass clarity and 1x performance are noticeably better on the cheapo scope. I suppose it's possible I have a slight lemon as well
Nice video. I bought the Sig MSR 1-6x for about $300 about a yr ago, and you really can't beat the value when factoring the included mount. This is my first LPVO and I really like it. I like Sig optics and have the Romeo 5 on my KSG.
@WINDSORTOWNSAV pretty much any Romeo5 around $100 is worth it. DVOR often has them on sale for $100. Palmetto does on occasion too. Palmetto also sells the Romeo7s for just over $100, which is crazy too.
I run the Strike Eagle 1-8. I like having 8 power just personal preference. It works well for me and I bang it around in my truck and hike around in the woods with it.
I don't hate my Swampfox Arrowhead 1-10x. Got it on a ridiculous sale for only $350. But ultimately the weight, crowded BDC reticle, and less than stellar eyebox at higher magnifications are enough downsides in total that I went back to a red dot w/ 4x magnifier combo.
@@gundeals I was surprised to see the pst gen2 absent but the strike chicken there. I guess it’s due to the pricing. Hard to catch a pst gen2 below 499 without a deep discount sale going on.
I still like my SWFA 1-4x24 Super Sniper with Japanese glass. It has a great reticle and crystal clear glass. I’ve had this optic for about 15 years and it’s never lost zero and is built like a tank. The eye relief is 3.1 to 5 very forgiving eye relief nothing else comes close. 1-4 and 1-6 are optimal LPVO once you go to 8, 10 or 12 your loosing performance and would be better served with a 3 or 4 by whatever. It’s over my head but it’s been explained by optical experts.
I would like to see true Budget Optics like the Axeon 1-6 or Bushnell 1-6 etc. The “Budget” category is around 100 bucks +/- for a lot of Guys who just shoot targets and steel. I use Iron Sights and a Flashlight for Home Defense so there’s no chance of anything failing like a Battery when you truly need your Weapons. The Axeon is made in the PRC as with a lot of Optics but it is what it is and I know if I just bought Bushnell the rest of my life I’d be perfectly fine, there S. Korea Optics like the AR and Trophy Line are crystal clear and really nice Optics. Honesty is Paramount so thank you for that. S.F.
I like the feature set on the PA Nova very much, but if you can land the $290 bundle deal from Palmetto State that includes the 1-6 Strike Eagle *and* the very decent Vortex Sport cantilever mount, that’s an amazing bargain. (Didn’t know there were similar deals available on the Sig Tango LPVO.)
Not happy with the 1-6 Aurora that I just received. Maybe it's a bad one. Dark, blurry, heavy, and the reticle doesn't even look on at 10 in a cloudy day situation. I have no other PA scopes to know if this is a bad one. Now that I got that out, I feel much better thanks for listening.
All I use for budget optics are primary Arms and holosuns…. I have the SFP 1-6x, 1-8x, and 1-10x with ACSS reticles and they’re great for the $$$ as long as you’re aware of it’s user capabilities features and limitations. MY ONLY VORTEX scope is the razor gen2 E 1-6x and it’s the best 😊
Made the mistake of looking through a guys SB short dot 1-8. It was very nice at 8x and the glass was nice I mean real nice . But the 1x was no better than my PA classic 1-4 . The swampfox 1-10 gave me aids when I looked through it same the with sig msr 1-10.
You missed the Crimson Trace Hardline 1-10. 34mm tube. Glass and reticle are amazing. It’s retail price was over six hundred. But most retailers are around $400. But on gundeals I was able to buy one for $285. Had to ask for a quote from a retailer.
It might be just me, but I'm not a big fan of the RT6. It is what made me up my LPVO budget to 600-700. The distortion/slight fisheye-ing at 1x was enough to make me feel crosseyed. So I thought to buy a holosun 507c and piggyback it on the burris PEPR mount. Then I realized for the amount of money the RT6, PEPR, and the 507C costs, I could have bought an LPVO with a better 1x/glass such as the trijicon TR24.
Great presentation! Just wondering, if you were to throw in Vortex's relatively new Venom 1-6X24 LPVO, would it place above the Strike Eagle that you included in your line-up? Supposedly the glass of the new Venom is slightly better than the relatively older Strike Eagle.
I used the Firefield Rapid strike is pretty decent for $130 it is a 1-6 and comes with a mount. Held up to 1k rounds of 7.62x39 and about 3k rounds. Still holding zero from regular use of 5.56 drop test I dont know about. Still very detailed review as always
@WINDSORTOWNSAV I don't do it either. But John drops test all of the lpvos he reviews. I am sure you are aware of. I try to take care of all of my equipment. But yeah, I get your point most definitely.
I have the same LPVO from Bass pro shops and I have at least two thousand rounds of 556 put through the rifle it's on and it has held zero and I have used and abused it.
Just buy one ar15 grab a 11.5-16 in not below or above get a set of iron sights or a Holosun or sig red dots are pretty affordable for civilian use you’re gonna be fine we won’t ever use a rifle in duty use maybe pistol self defense
Was looking for this comment. Burris RT-6 was my top choice for a budget 1-6x in part due to not having the glass made in China. USA>Japan>Philippines>China in my very biased opinion.
Best LPVO on the market is one made by Brownells 1-6 with Japanese glass, and Made in Japan for 299$ right now on sale!! Yes you heard it right, Made in Japan woth Japan glass, i got one and i will get another one soon!! Go get them before they are gona!!! Thwy are build like a tank💪🏻
Idk bro I've read many bad reviews. Some dude on GAFS couldn't get rid of his fast enough. C&R $180. I love Brownells but looks like they had a rare miss with that optic. I really want to check one out but I'm not buying one
I'm sure these are all great LPVOs for the money buuuuut, which ones are the 5 best duty LPVOs? I know the Arrowhead is "duty rated" and tough as hell, but any other noteworthy duty optics?
Thanks for your review, we in South Africa don’t get your nr 1 pick over here, closest is Vortex strike eagle 1-6 and 1-8. What would you suggest for AR15 and AR10 for over here please? We do get wide range of Vortex, Swaro, Zeiss, Leupoldt over here though. Thanks
I'm trying to figure out what to install on my S&W Response rifle. LPVO, Prism, Red dot, green dot with flip up sights? Just using the rifle for fun shooting maybe up to 200 yds. Any suggestions? I'm 64 years old. To me a LPVO 1 to 6 power seems to be the ticket but not really sure?? I notice all the rectile compensators are for 5.56 not 9mm so seems like a waste to have one of those?
If you want a descent hunting lpvo where you get a pretty nice lpvo under 200 the Monstrum Banshee 1-8x24 I just picked up was like 170ish and has a 20 moa square and has 1 moa holds up and down and left or right and you can illuminate red or green and glass seems pretty clear
Probably still 50 yards. If you run it through a calculator it might be something like 63. but you need to match it to your barrel length and ammo choice.
Yup he said budget I was think more 200 or 300 and he spouting out four or five hundred dollar lpvos but for sub 200 dollar I got a Monstrum Banshee 1-8x24 for like 160 or 170 and with all the one moa holds up and down and left and right and features I was surprised how nice it was for the price point
Great content : but I have to iterate, and I am not trying to insult you or anybody else, but I would like to know where you, other influencers, and the firearms industry, get that budget price statistics, that are at like $300 and up. apparently y'all have not had to struggle a day in your lives, if that is what y'all think budget is! where I am from, budget is more like $50. to $100 because even that is hard to come up with. The prices you mention, are like top tier to people like me on minimum wage, and low fixed incomes, and I to be even more transparent, low income recipients, would appreciate it, if y'all would stop saying, "budget" is like $400. because it insults the low income.
"budget" is relative to subject, your watching a video on a fairly new rifle optic variant, you idea of budget literally does not exist in this segment so therefore these optics are the budget options in their field, if your budget is $50-100 then this ain't it chief a nice Bushnell scope would get ya there.
That is budget these days😂 Won't get anything worth using for less than $300. For a high end LPVO you'll pay $2-3k, so $400 is definitely lower end. Just stop being poor and get a credit card
$400 = budget?! Lpvos are all way overpriced, we’re getting robbed by manufacturers because of the hype, and this kind of Tom foolery only fills their pockets.
I wonder what @gundeals thinks about the Sousa Mantis 1-6x24 lpvo. I’ve personally tried many on your list and to me the mantis out performed them and it’s only $250 without a mount. I did not do any torture tests though.
For god sake thank you for showing the reticles. I don’t know why these damn reviewers “review” a scope and don’t show the god damn reticle.
Many come with various reticles.
WELL SAID!
Primary arms optics are phenomenal! 🔥
Yes, they are. I have their nova reticle 1x6. It is daylight bright. I will be done with the review at the end of the year on my channel
Is it *better* than the Sig ?
Mine had a canted reticle. Now I don't know where to go. Guess I'll try another.
@@jamesbuchanan3145 I prefer Primary Arms but the Sig isn't far off. Between those two brands, it really comes down to what is on sale and which is not.
i love the halo how the halo theme is playing in the background
That halo 2 music in the background is just 👌
I love the acog style meter reticle on the Gen IV SLx 1-6 from Primary Arms
I have like 3 versions because I hate money
Impressed with the Primary Arms Nova that I just got (Military/LEO and other discounts sealed the deal). As mentioned the brightness and reticle is hard to beat for quickly transitioning from shooting close in and moving to targets one, two hundred yards away.
agreed.
Nice video man, thanks for continuing to be the patron saint of the poors
those are great budget minded LPVOs. I could use either one for my hunting ARs.
On my poverty pony radical firearms i have a firefield rapidstrike 1-6 x 24 it comes with a mount for $160. Has a throw lever illuminated circle reticle. I zeroed it years ago and have beat the living hell out of the rifle and scope and haven't had a problem with either.
outstanding review, thank you. Helps in my next LPVO purchase
I have to agree with you 100%. It's worth noting that C_Does did a review of the PA SLx 1-6x24 Nova and stated that if you could save the extra money then the Vortex PST Gen II 1-6x24 would be worth the extra money. Would love to see your picks of the Best Mid-Tier LPVOs that are less than 1,000 dollars.
PA just dropped the new Nova fiber wire one too. Not sure if that changes the outcome. It is worth noting tho. They are $400
it's more than just glass quality, the Nova is smaller and lighter by a big margin. I need to get a couple more mid range LPVOs before I make that video.
@@gundeals
Can you do a budget , under 1000$
Spr/mpvo
To shiwcase glx 2.5-10
Athlon both ares 2.5-15,
Helos 2-12
And new swampfox warhawk
2-10
And 3-15,
As well as others.
@WINDSORTOWNSAV the nova he is talking about is the fiber optic reticle. They didn't just drop it, it's been out for a few months.
Excellent list and I’m greatly enjoying your #1 pick.
I replaced a Vortex Viper PST Gen II with it for the weight savings.
I’m going to make it a point to check out the Sig MSR 1-6, thanks.
The pst 2 is a heavy bitch.
Reticles matter. Bdc+ wind holds is an absolute must have at minimum. No exceptions. Not just holding into nothingness with no reference points.
Athlon 1-10 can be found for less than $400 when on sale, but this list is solid. I'd swap number 4 for number 2. Love my swampfox and those locking turrets are second to none. Chunky boi, but its great for my p&w 14.5 mid because i dont mind the extra weight when on a hunt but that clarity and dial are essential.
One thing i didnt hear you cover was the warranty on any of these. Sig is spotty on customer service, vortex is pretty good if a little slow, but swampfox is absolutely the best warranty in the game. Primary Arms has great customer service.... But im still waiting on them to send my skittles.
Yeah if you can find something on a good sale that would shake the list up. I also like the Arrowheads quite a bit. I have personally had good experiences with all of the customer service.
@@gundeals I know u r dealer for primary Arms... Is that just optics or does it apply to barrels as well. I found the faxon 16" mid gas pencil Profile for 125 on P.A. today but was gonna check with u before the 4th of July and see if it's worth maybe waiting.
It's Richard Cranium, btw... Not some rando.... I dunno why UA-cam being ghey and not showing my screen name. It's using my decades old email that's not even active anymore but I been getting dik'd lately.
Burris no questions asked forever warranty is hard for me to turn down in this group of scopes.
I bought the sig msr 1-6x and was honestly disappointed with the glass quality and size of it. it's definitely decent and feels durable but I also have a throwaway victoptics 1-6x that only cost 80 bucks and it's more compact with clearer glass and a better 1x. I use it on air rifles and I doubt it's as durable but I was still a bit shocked
really? that was not my experience with it.
@gundeals don't get me wrong, it's a great scope, I think I just expected more from it than I should have. I'm honestly reluctant to swap it with the cheapo one I already had because the glass clarity and 1x performance are noticeably better on the cheapo scope. I suppose it's possible I have a slight lemon as well
@@pootinhammerglad to know my vector optics s6 1-6 is good enough
The halo 2 music 😍
Nice video. I bought the Sig MSR 1-6x for about $300 about a yr ago, and you really can't beat the value when factoring the included mount. This is my first LPVO and I really like it. I like Sig optics and have the Romeo 5 on my KSG.
What Romeo do you have. I have been eyeing them
@@WINDSORTOWNSAV the Romeo 5
@@damionpatterson1507 It's legit? What option is it? I believe there is several variations of mounts or something
@WINDSORTOWNSAV pretty much any Romeo5 around $100 is worth it. DVOR often has them on sale for $100. Palmetto does on occasion too. Palmetto also sells the Romeo7s for just over $100, which is crazy too.
I run the Strike Eagle 1-8. I like having 8 power just personal preference. It works well for me and I bang it around in my truck and hike around in the woods with it.
I have like the 2 that I have had.
I've got the 1x6 n like it
Using the Halo Soundtrack in the background gets my seal of approval. We’ll done.
ARKEN is a brand i have never heard of but i have been hearing more and more and people say they are very quality and still in the 300 dollar range
I don't hate my Swampfox Arrowhead 1-10x. Got it on a ridiculous sale for only $350. But ultimately the weight, crowded BDC reticle, and less than stellar eyebox at higher magnifications are enough downsides in total that I went back to a red dot w/ 4x magnifier combo.
I this the PA Nova would solve most of my issues
good deal, if you are looking for closer range use the Nova will do that better.
The PA nova and the viper pst gen2 are my favorite lpvo’s under 500 bucks by far. I’ve used a lot of these on the list and they’re solid too.
Probably my favorites as well.
@@gundeals I was surprised to see the pst gen2 absent but the strike chicken there. I guess it’s due to the pricing. Hard to catch a pst gen2 below 499 without a deep discount sale going on.
Budget doesn’t mean cheap price. It means low price in comparison to the top of the line.
I still like my SWFA 1-4x24 Super Sniper with Japanese glass. It has a great reticle and crystal clear glass. I’ve had this optic for about 15 years and it’s never lost zero and is built like a tank. The eye relief is 3.1 to 5 very forgiving eye relief nothing else comes close. 1-4 and 1-6 are optimal LPVO once you go to 8, 10 or 12 your loosing performance and would be better served with a 3 or 4 by whatever. It’s over my head but it’s been explained by optical experts.
I would love to see reviews on the Crimson Trace scopes. There's not a lot on their hardline LPVO.
I may check them out!
Keep doing these kinds of videos Nick! Top 5s!!
@5:50 Just a nit pick. Didn't really show the reticle well with the dark wooded area in view. Without the illumination anyway.
Cabelas 1x6 AR scope $199 and it blew away vortex, burris and the Sig scopes that i looked at in the under $500 range and comes with the mount!
You mean you looked at them inside Cabela's?
never looked through one.
I would like to see true Budget Optics like the Axeon 1-6 or Bushnell 1-6 etc. The “Budget” category is around 100 bucks +/- for a lot of Guys who just shoot targets and steel. I use Iron Sights and a Flashlight for Home Defense so there’s no chance of anything failing like a Battery when you truly need your Weapons. The Axeon is made in the PRC as with a lot of Optics but it is what it is and I know if I just bought Bushnell the rest of my life I’d be perfectly fine, there S. Korea Optics like the AR and Trophy Line are crystal clear and really nice Optics. Honesty is Paramount so thank you for that. S.F.
I like the feature set on the PA Nova very much, but if you can land the $290 bundle deal from Palmetto State that includes the 1-6 Strike Eagle *and* the very decent Vortex Sport cantilever mount, that’s an amazing bargain. (Didn’t know there were similar deals available on the Sig Tango LPVO.)
I like SIG 1-6x24 and the Montrum 1-6x24 LPVOs
Been waiting on this video! most excellent!
Not happy with the 1-6 Aurora that I just received. Maybe it's a bad one. Dark, blurry, heavy, and the reticle doesn't even look on at 10 in a cloudy day situation. I have no other PA scopes to know if this is a bad one. Now that I got that out, I feel much better thanks for listening.
Good ol Halo 2 soundtrack over a cool video.
Love your vids! Good info to help guide my builds. Btw the background music sounds a little like a pile driver in the far background.
it's an old halo track.
Halo 2 music nice!
Great video, John. I personally like the PAs for the feature set.
Hard to beat the reticles.
I couldn't finish watching this because of the nonstop steel pipe clang sounding beat in the song that's playing in the background.
It’s from Halo 2, how dare you Blaspheme gods game
Rocking that Explorer
All I use for budget optics are primary Arms and holosuns…. I have the SFP 1-6x, 1-8x, and 1-10x with ACSS reticles and they’re great for the $$$ as long as you’re aware of it’s user capabilities features and limitations. MY ONLY VORTEX scope is the razor gen2 E 1-6x and it’s the best 😊
I like the PA 1-10 quite a bit, just over $400 though
I’m opposite I prefer exposed reticle as to capped to each their own
LPVOs + Halo music = win
Great video
Made the mistake of looking through a guys SB short dot 1-8. It was very nice at 8x and the glass was nice I mean real nice . But the 1x was no better than my PA classic 1-4 . The swampfox 1-10 gave me aids when I looked through it same the with sig msr 1-10.
You missed the Crimson Trace Hardline 1-10. 34mm tube. Glass and reticle are amazing. It’s retail price was over six hundred. But most retailers are around $400. But on gundeals I was able to buy one for $285. Had to ask for a quote from a retailer.
sounds like a good option!
March 2024 can’t find the PST Gen 2 for less than $599 anywhere. I just ordered a clean used on on eBay for $440. Ouch.
It might be just me, but I'm not a big fan of the RT6.
It is what made me up my LPVO budget to 600-700.
The distortion/slight fisheye-ing at 1x was enough to make me feel crosseyed.
So I thought to buy a holosun 507c and piggyback it on the burris PEPR mount.
Then I realized for the amount of money the RT6, PEPR, and the 507C costs, I could have bought an LPVO with a better 1x/glass such as the trijicon TR24.
sorry to hear that, didn't notice that on mine.
What about Vortex Ranger (ie PST 1st Gen) 1-4x for shorted range engagements?
I haven't tried it, but if it has good glass and a good reticle I am sure it is good to go.
Great presentation! Just wondering, if you were to throw in Vortex's relatively new Venom 1-6X24 LPVO, would it place above the Strike Eagle that you included in your line-up? Supposedly the glass of the new Venom is slightly better than the relatively older Strike Eagle.
Very good review. I have only 1 AR platform and will only get 1 optic, an LPVO. I am cheap (broke) so I must choose wisley. This review helps allot.
What did you decide on?
I used the Firefield Rapid strike is pretty decent for $130 it is a 1-6 and comes with a mount. Held up to 1k rounds of 7.62x39 and about 3k rounds. Still holding zero from regular use of 5.56 drop test I dont know about. Still very detailed review as always
Lol I would not drop test any lpvo. Especially with a stock mount
@WINDSORTOWNSAV I don't do it either. But John drops test all of the lpvos he reviews. I am sure you are aware of. I try to take care of all of my equipment. But yeah, I get your point most definitely.
@@Carolinamusicvideos 😭 I'm cheap. I'm new to the channel. Sorry
@WINDSORTOWNSAV Same here, bro lol.
I have the same LPVO from Bass pro shops and I have at least two thousand rounds of 556 put through the rifle it's on and it has held zero and I have used and abused it.
I’ve subscribed to this channel 3 separate times
sorry to hear you have been having issues, but we appreciate you coming back!
Just buy one ar15 grab a 11.5-16 in not below or above get a set of iron sights or a Holosun or sig red dots are pretty affordable for civilian use you’re gonna be fine we won’t ever use a rifle in duty use maybe pistol self defense
Re: 4:06. All of them EXCEPT the RT-6 are Chinese. The RT-6 is made in the Philippines...might not matter to some.
good point.
Was looking for this comment. Burris RT-6 was my top choice for a budget 1-6x in part due to not having the glass made in China. USA>Japan>Philippines>China in my very biased opinion.
I have a couple of older PA1-6 and have no complaints, but the Nova is tempting me to replace them.
They just dropped the new Nove fiber wire. Check it out
Nova is great for 0-400 the other reticles will help more at distance.
My fav lpvo is a red dot with 3x mag lol
I got the PA SLx Nova for $288 through Optics Planet. Worth every penny, so far.
good price.
Best LPVO on the market is one made by Brownells 1-6 with Japanese glass, and Made in Japan for 299$ right now on sale!! Yes you heard it right, Made in Japan woth Japan glass, i got one and i will get another one soon!! Go get them before they are gona!!! Thwy are build like a tank💪🏻
Japan makes lower tier glass also...
is that the one with the dumb donut reticle?
Idk bro I've read many bad reviews. Some dude on GAFS couldn't get rid of his fast enough. C&R $180. I love Brownells but looks like they had a rare miss with that optic. I really want to check one out but I'm not buying one
Japan glass seems pretty good
How does the Primary arms slx 1-6 IV with the aurora reticle compare?
I'm sure these are all great LPVOs for the money buuuuut, which ones are the 5 best duty LPVOs? I know the Arrowhead is "duty rated" and tough as hell, but any other noteworthy duty optics?
Only real gentlemen know what video game the background music belonged to.
PSA has been running Vortex StrikeEagle 1-8 for $300 off
I thought Vortex only made a 1x8 in the StrikeEagle line
@@signkutter9218 My bad, I had vortex on the brain for some reason.
Good deal, they make a 1-6 and 1-8 strike eagle.
Once again no SWFA scopes...why????
Ok. I'll bite what the heck does LPVO stand for ? I can't stand this type of shorthand.
It took me a while to figure out RADAR and PC
Am I crazy for hearing Halo-themed music?
Nope, that's what is there.
Wondering what you would recommend to put on top of a 45-70 for deer this year?
Leopold
Music really give me some odst vibes
Edit: OK idk which game but that is definitely halo music. H3?
Halo 2 - Heretic, Hero
@@gundeals very based
Which mount did you use with the PA SLx 1-6? Did you have to lap it?
Hey do you have any idea at what distance to zero the SIG MSR for 308 to get the BDC close???
Thanks for your review, we in South Africa don’t get your nr 1 pick over here, closest is Vortex strike eagle 1-6 and 1-8. What would you suggest for AR15 and AR10 for over here please?
We do get wide range of Vortex, Swaro, Zeiss, Leupoldt over here though. Thanks
The Strike Eagles are the best budget options for you.
@@gundeals Roger that
And go for that Diamondback AR10 .308 👍🏼👍🏼Brand new
Ooooo I hear the Halo 2 music…. 👀👀👀👀
yessir.
Hi! Have you tried the Falcon Optics ENDURA S10i 1-10x24 ?
I'm trying to figure out what to install on my S&W Response rifle. LPVO, Prism, Red dot, green dot with flip up sights? Just using the rifle for fun shooting maybe up to 200 yds. Any suggestions? I'm 64 years old. To me a LPVO 1 to 6 power seems to be the ticket but not really sure?? I notice all the rectile compensators are for 5.56 not 9mm so seems like a waste to have one of those?
I’m wanting a lvpo for hog and deer hunting. Suggestions? Everything within 200 yards
Nova for sure.
If you want a descent hunting lpvo where you get a pretty nice lpvo under 200 the Monstrum Banshee 1-8x24 I just picked up was like 170ish and has a 20 moa square and has 1 moa holds up and down and left or right and you can illuminate red or green and glass seems pretty clear
300 to 400 is budget compared to vudu or night force buddy and my boy does make videos reviewing cheaper optics like monstrum
PA not writing "Ass-Raptor" anymore on their scope 🥺
Fuck. I was about to return their GLX lpvo. I'm having second thoughts now that I read this comment. ASS RAPTOR. hahaha
Don't forget the tacticon
Have you tried the Atibal 1-8 is awesome with the diamond retical. I purchased from optic planet for just under 300
I need to check them out!
So the Nova option on the primary arms isn't an edge reticle??
it's fiber wire, not etched.
which of these has the best eye relief and fov? thanks guys
Greetings!
hello there!
Surprised that Monstrum tactical g3 1-6x24 is not on the list
if it's the same one I tried years ago I wasn't that impressed.
@@gundeals is the same one u reviewed couple yrs ago
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So Sig or Nova what yall think im leaning towards the Nova?
I would lean towards the Nova as well.
Is that a halo soundtrack?!?!?
yeah buddy.
what are these prices? in Swedein Strike eagle gen 2 1-8 with mount cost 850 dollar :o
and sig sight is 1-6 is 700 dollar with mount :D
Ouch, sorry man!
Optics planet is running a sale on the 1x6 strike eagle for $206 right now
That's a good deal.
How far below is the Victoptics S6 1-6?
Unfortunately I haven't tried it.
What happened to the utg 1-8x ?
Definitely should've put it as an honorable mention for the money.
Hey Focus do you have any idea what distance to zero the SIG MSR for 308 to closely match the BDC I can't find anything in the manual?
Probably still 50 yards. If you run it through a calculator it might be something like 63. but you need to match it to your barrel length and ammo choice.
@@gundeals I zeroed it at 50 but I don't have enough distance to confirm
@@gundeals thank you
Monstrous Tactical
Their 1-6 I wasn't that impressed with, though that was a long time ago.
Yup he said budget I was think more 200 or 300 and he spouting out four or five hundred dollar lpvos but for sub 200 dollar I got a Monstrum Banshee 1-8x24 for like 160 or 170 and with all the one moa holds up and down and left and right and features I was surprised how nice it was for the price point
Sig MSR 1-6
great option.
Arken?
Haven't tried them.
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Dude if you're going to talk over the shooting you should speak up a little.
or just make the shooting quieter.
Great content : but I have to iterate, and I am not trying to insult you or anybody else, but I would like to know where you, other influencers, and the firearms industry, get that budget price statistics, that are at like $300 and up. apparently y'all have not had to struggle a day in your lives, if that is what y'all think budget is! where I am from, budget is more like $50. to $100 because even that is hard to come up with. The prices you mention, are like top tier to people like me on minimum wage, and low fixed incomes, and I to be even more transparent, low income recipients, would appreciate it, if y'all would stop saying, "budget" is like $400. because it insults the low income.
Right $400 on a scope does not seem budget to me. Lol
Your tellin me man
We aren't in 1986, you can barely buy a decent red dot for a pistol for under $400 nowadays,
"budget" is relative to subject, your watching a video on a fairly new rifle optic variant, you idea of budget literally does not exist in this segment so therefore these optics are the budget options in their field, if your budget is $50-100 then this ain't it chief a nice Bushnell scope would get ya there.
That is budget these days😂 Won't get anything worth using for less than $300. For a high end LPVO you'll pay $2-3k, so $400 is definitely lower end. Just stop being poor and get a credit card
Monstrum….
$400 = budget?! Lpvos are all way overpriced, we’re getting robbed by manufacturers because of the hype, and this kind of Tom foolery only fills their pockets.
What about the Trijicon Ascend?? Saw one on TacSwap for $350 today and was shocked to find Trijicon’s name on something so cheap…
interesting, I have never used one so I can't really comment on it.
I wonder what @gundeals thinks about the Sousa Mantis 1-6x24 lpvo. I’ve personally tried many on your list and to me the mantis out performed them and it’s only $250 without a mount. I did not do any torture tests though.