Who Are The Jack Bros: SMT Lore
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
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0:00 - Intro
00:52 - Jack Frost
4:18 - Pyro Jack (Jack-o-Lantern)
8:06 - Jack Ripper (Jack Skeleton)
11:46 - Outro
Everyone loves the cute mascots of SMT, the Jack Bros. Fan favorite Jack Frost, his best friend Pyro Jack or Jack-o-Lantern, and the lesser loved Jack the Ripper. They seem like just any other mascots to the average onlooker, but there is much more to these little guys than meets the eyes. From the personification of winter, a person who deceived the devil himself, and the terror of England still talked about today. We’ll be going over the folklore of each of the Jack Bros and not so much into the variations like Frost Ace, Black Frost, and King Frost, just to keep things concise. Let’s start this folklore triple feature.
When I first started writing the script for this video I really thought there would not be much to them. Fortunately for me shin megami tensei always does their research and there was a ton of interesting lore behind them all. Jack frost, pyro jack, and jack ripper are full of interesting topics from around the world. Jack frost, pyro jack, and jack ripper are from all across European folklore and was heavily requested from the fans. I'm glad to go over the smt lore that is less about the grand biblical canon, and more lighthearted cultural folklore. Jack Frost is a fan favorite for the smt community, and while my personal favorite of the jack bros is pyro jack or jack o lantern, they are all unique and deserve to be dived into. Jack Frost specifically has history and lore spanning back potentially hundreds of years. Pyro jack is a unique window into the folklore and culture of Europe hundreds of years ago, and an explanation of why we carve jack o lanterns. Jack Ripper is a more macabre figure to be a mascot, but quite possibly the most known and interesting lore. White the game jack bros is a little underrated the jack bros themselves are universally loved as the cute mascots of atlus and the shin megami tensei franchise. This smt lore video evolved to be a much bigger project than first anticipated, but as with almost every smt lore video I learned much more while researching than I thought I would. Shin megami tensei Jack Bros forever. - Ігри
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How did stingy Jack casually own the devil twice? This man should be an endgame demon for such a wealth of feats.
He's an endgame demon in our hearts
He can be, generate a password for him in Strange Journey with insane stats, and you have it
Sounds like he played himself
Know how smt 2 had a law route that went against yhvh?
If one day they make a chaos route where we reject lucifer stingy jack should be the chaos rep
I love the idea of Jack Frost being such a seemingly cute and harmless demon but in reality he’s a “force of nature” that will kill someone just because. Fantastic work, Tony!
For a mascot he's pretty hardcore. Thanks bro
True chaotic neutral that Jack is... Ermm... Umm... Neutra-neutral, I guess
The devil gets fooled by a drunkard from Ireland twice and then loses a fiddling contest by some hillbilly in Georgia twice. For a king of hell he certainly loses to the strangest of things
unlucky
he gets too overconfident, I hear.
Big L
@@AttacMage pride does come before fall
His SMT incarnations imply wariness of humanity's potential, but also has a lot of hubris at points.
Considered the fact the Jack the ripper is the only jack bro that doesn't Finish a sentence saying "hee hoo" takes me to believe that he's not Jack bro at blood but at heart
Yeah in SMTIV/Apocalypse, when Negotiating with him, he doesn't even ever say Ho, so he's a suspicious one.
@@dantemustdie00 qre you saying that jack the ripper is suspicious? If so then it makes sense to his origin
Jack Bros. is truly one of the found families of all time unironically.
@@manuelvasconcelos8982 ripper jack (thats his name, fight me nerds) is loke that weird guy at partys that was asked to attend becuse the host is their friend that wants to help with their anxiety and also not wanting to exclude anyone
Honestly, I feel like a follow-up about the various Atlus Original Frosts (and/or, just, like, Atlus OC demons in general) would be pretty interesting, even though the "mythology" around them is super modern stuff, like Space Marines or Sentai. (Or things which would logically exist as demons.)
Please do this
I'd like to see it as well. Cant believe tony left out hairyjack. Tony4you more like Tony4get.
Everyone talks about King Frost, but Queen Frost deserves some love too
The existence of a lucifer jack frost is still one of my favorite facts about this franchise
...or the government
Finally the most important lore
The long awaited Brothers Jack episode. My magnum opus
Yes finallly someone gives Jack Skeleton his place in the Jack Trio he deseveres. Im kinda sad about Atlus not giving him much attention at all these last few years
I like him a lot, but I can see why lol
Kinda hard to mystify a being with documented criminal history unlike the other Frost's who are based on folklore.
@@giraoshaw well... jack the ripper is part of the england folklore, he never was captured and are so manny theoris about who was he
@@donbototo5068 that is true but it is still a brutal unsolved murder case with very real people involved rather than a folktale explaining why your windows frost or how the devil is really gullible.
It seems a little insensitive to characterize a historical murderer with the likes of Jack Frost.
darumadolly you can be a folklore based off a real person 100%
They're only the most ancient and powerful demons and hee-homies in all of Megaten
Always a good day when Tony4You uploads. In any case, I like how Jack Ripper's official art looks like a child playing with scissors, contrasting with how gruesome his real-world origins are
Man I love the huge smile design Jack Frost had
Although the actual backgrounds of Frost and Pyro aren't exactly cute, I always loved the juxtaposition of their portrayal in MegaTen. That being said, while such a feat wouldn't exactly be easy for someone like Jack the Ripper, I still find him cute lol. He's sorta like a "Hey, I'll slice ya!" kinda guy, but he's really not a bother given his stature xD
Y’know, i’ve been wanting jack the ripper to appear in smt for a while. To learn that not only has he already appeared, but that he is the third jack bro, was kind of surreal
Jack Bros for life. Shame he isn't coming back, though he is a little graphic lore wise
@@Tony4Youwhy isn't he coming back?
I didn't even know Jack Ripper appeared in SMT. I'm surprised he's barely been used.
I'm pretty sure he's in SMT IV too...
I sometimes forget about how gruesome the ripper was. Can see why he got replaced by black and king frost
I love Jack-o'-Lantern, he's cool 🎃
A nefarious little trickster
@@Tony4You just like me fr 😤
he give you a paper that said "hee you win ho"
I live in finland, and of course my favorite demon is Jack Frost just because it's the only one that appears in finnish mythology.
My face when
My face when I play the old smt games, and find out there are several demons that say hee-ho
🗿
Thanks for having me on! Now please let me out of your basement, I've been editing videos for 5 days, and the spaghetti you gave me ran out.
Three plates of spaghetti for a video was the deal. You did good though so I'll throw in a bonus plate
Jack brother's are the best demon/persona of the serie hee-hoo
Black frost is my fav character in SMT he’s like the Jack Frost Wario and his design is sick
Need a new Jack Bros game
Big true
A DDS style Jack Bros.
I was so disappointed that SMTIV didn't have a SAMURAI JACK. I mean, c'mon, it's right there.
Wow after hearing the tale of stingy jack Im a huge fan of pyro jack now! Thanks for the video as always
Apparently jack the ripper is too gruesome to be a mascot in SMT but is wholesome enough to be a psycho loli waifu in FGO.
At this rate we should just get A SMT cross over with fate just so we can see the wacky shenanigans surrounding some of these demons meeting with their servant counterparts lol.
Now we need Spring heel jack
Chestnuts roasting on an open fire.
Jack Frost nipping at your nose.
*ouch*
You forgot about Jack daniels
Yeah, but in SMT V, Jack Frost said he was my Hee-homey, so that should make up for the killing people.
I'm surprised stingy jack didn't ask the devil to leave his soul alone for eternity from the get go, but still being able to outsmart satan himself.........respect. Still, since he was banned from heaven and hell, wouldn't that mean he's in limbo? They could at least let him reincarnate, hopefully into a somewhat decent human being.
So is there a good reason why Jack the Ripper is left out of every game?
I was waiting every day for him and Shiva when they were revealing smt5's roster.
I just want to make a Jack Bros. Team
Alas we might be waiting a lot longer
I think it's because how they make the character cute but the lore behind his name sake is Dark
Pyro Jack is my favorite of the Jack Bros too. In Atlus's Etrian Odyssey games, I like to name my guild Jack Bros and then create a main roster of Jack Frost, Pyro Jack, Black Frost, King Frost, and Frost Ace.
No ripper?
Constantine O'Lantern
The way you talked about Jack the Ripper reminded me of the Lemmino video on him
I hope that you do Black Frost eventually, if only to confirm the theory that his design was influenced by black ice.
Another banger video bro!
Thanks king👑
This was a great video He Ho! My favorite out of the 3 is Jack Frost, with my favorite variation being Frost Ace.
Tony I know you wanted to say the heeho in jack frosts quote
😳yes
Ok the jack o lantern story was actually really cool.
Great video as always, Tony! Would love to see follow up videos on the lesser known Jacks at somepoint just because they're all very strange and interesting (like how King Frost is like a mech for Jack Frost and what the heck is up with the fruit-based Jacks?). In any case, keep up the great work!
I just started playing Jack Bros yesterday, what good timing!
Please do a video on other Frosts. I wonder if there's enough of them to create an ensemble cast show using just them alone.
Yes!
It's the boy-hee's, hoo!
Immediate like as always but hearing that smt 5 Tokyo music? Wish I could double like
Do you think you’ll ever do a list of some demons you’d want to be brought back?
it’s always a good day when Tony uploads
Yay. I love your lore videos because they explore the origins of characters to provide context for their roles in the stories of SMT. I have always been fascinated by the narratives of different mythologies and religions because they are incredibly insightful to the lives and histories of the people who created the stories. Keep up the good work.
I'm the guy who, when asked about favorite demon, will answer the jack bros and then set.
I think jack is my favorite 😂
My favorite Jack Bro is Jack Off, he's a blast to have around.
I would say Jack The Ripper was a barber that would make sense easy way to collect information among other things
Your voice is so soothing. I came here after the angel spheres video and I'm ready to binge watch the rest! These are great to get started in mythology deep dives
Thanks a lot! I'm glad people are enjoying them enough to watch them all
Jack Frost with bufudyne
Hairy Jack is my favorite
They're bros who got the Ho card for free
banger vid as always king
thanks king 👑
Amazing video, as always
Appreciate it king
Wish they'd used Jack the Ripper more, can't get enough of the little guy
Loved this video :)
Fantastic video! I really enjoy watching your lore videos. I do have a quick question, where does the music when you were talking about Jack the Ripper come from?
ua-cam.com/video/CRvlR4kRVR0/v-deo.html here ya go
@@ImNotAMaidL thank you very much!
Hell yeah! Our Hee-Homeboys!!!
Anyone know the tracks that play during the Jack o' Lantern and Jack Ripper segments?
World Map Theme from Shin Megami Tensei 4 Apocalypse is one. The other is so jazzy, it has to be from Persona 5. Try listening to it's OST.
EDIT: Damn, there are a lot of songs for P5(R). I didn't realise how much I hated the Mementos song as much as I did after hearing it again. Anyway, the second one you are looking for is "AI and Heart"
Other iterations of Jack Frost had him as a dreamboat(in the book series turned DreamWorks film Rise of the Guardians), while he was played by Martin Short in the third Santa Clause film, and acted like a brat towards a cub who ran away from home in some Paramount short from the 30s. Stingy Jack was carried over to the first Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy Halloween special, and on the other hand, it's best Jack Ripper doesn't return because of it's origin.
Atlus should really make a new Jack:
*Jack Black*
I knew the lore behind Pyro Jack, but I had no idea Jack Frost's could be traced so far back.
Damn, I love the variations. Like mythelogy getting modern characters. King Frost in SMT5 is really 'cool'. And I just played Devil Survivor, where Black Frost made a lot of sense in a way. Ace Frost was a favorite in my forth game playthroughs, not to mention the Demonica gear stealers.
Inreally enjoy Black Frost in SMT5. Both his NPC quest and having him in my party midggame
What if Jack the ripper wasn't one person but a group of people? Would explain the difference in severity of the murders.
What an interesting trio, I say. And of course, my favorite of the three is the rarest compared to his comrades. But then again, I usually just stick with Jack-O'-Lantern.
i love lean!(jack frost)
Definitely would have loved a vid going over all of the Jack variants.
jack bros!!!
another banger
Dude hearing the story of stingy jack makes me think what if the SMT have an alternative but deliverate way to baboozeld the bosses and make them weaker or even now shoot kill them that could be absolutely nuts. A little hard to balance but if you have the resources, knowledge and skill to pull it out I don't see ant problem trying this.
would be nice if you could make a video on the DDS asura demons or the goetia demons, or maybe cool concepts like the pseudo fiends in the series
Can you do a video on Krishna?
I hope to branch out to more religion representation eventually. Krishna will be a big video though lol
The story: 👹
The BGM: 😊
jack frost first appeared in digital devil story 2 and moreso resembles frosty the snowman than the iconic design we know today
no love for the frost five... ok :c
4:32 Bro put a jump scare warning.
I should have heeded your warning about the victim's pics...one of them in particular will haunt me forever 😨
MY BOYS
I'm surprised they went with Jack the Ripper instead of Spring-Heeled Jack. Still from English, still said to terrorize and kill people, but they could have taken more liberties to make him cute. Not to mention that he's fictional. I think Jack the Ripper being a real life serial killer has less people willing to think he's cute little mascot.
Anyone know if there's a reason behind the "hee ho" speech styles or if that was something Atlus just threw in for fun?
3:36 I love that sassy pose
i had no idea mr o'lantern was such a baller wow
Yeah he's a real legend
When I was a child I remember my inquisitive nature leading me down some curious rabbit holes, always trying to learn about mysteries "rather counter Culture", I was gifted a book about various unexplained topics "Jack the ripper" featured in a segment and to my shock one of his victims was on display in the pages and that picture was my "reality check" if you will, that one day I to will die. Her face, will forever be etched into my soul.
Now this is the REAL IMPORTANT SHIT IN SMT
a few months ago they revealed who jack the ripper was. they found living descendents
Hee homeboys gathee-here
Hee-hoo!
I really need to ask you this, how has smt changed or influenced you? Like why do you cover it on your channel and how did you get to know smt?
It had a profound influence on my life, as obviously I made this channel because of it lol. I covered it because I thought I could use it as both a way to gush about my favorite game series as well as my passion for researching history, theology, and folklore. It really was a match made in heaven, Great JRPG series, and interesting real world inspiration.
Hee-ho to you my friend!
Obligatory Hee Ho!
I love these guys, Black Frost (not a Jack bro but he counts) hard carried me through the Mitsuo dungeon in P4
I love jackrabbits
No Love for Jack Atlas?
Now I get it why Pyro Jacks are the first enemies Joker fights in Persona 5. They're neutral, and they're kinda tricksters (like the P5 protagonist).
Jack Bros? More like Jackboys, am I right Trav?
Hmm a video about me-hee ho?
Hey Tony! Where can I find a link to your Discord? Thanks for another cool video!
Made a pinned comment for anyone who wants to join!
@@Tony4You thanks! I joined