Pietta vs. Uberti, Part 2: Loading Conical Bullets
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- In this video, I compare Pietta and Uberti revolvers on the ability to load conical bullets. I’ll also demonstrate how to install an Uberti rammer in a Pietta Revolver to allow the Pietta to load conicals like the Uberti. Be sure to subscribe to my channel for more videos. Thanks for watching!
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A while back I read a book on building your own wooden boat. The author's observation was that power tools were very good at making worse mistakes very fast indeed.
This is really neat. I didn't know you could swap some parts in these guns with so little "adjustment". Thanks!
Thanks, Santee! Parts, yes... ghosts, no. You’re stuck with Bill.
@@GunsOfTheWest Dangit.
Depends upon that part, Santee. You haven't lived until you've replaced a bolt and hand spring by candle light at a CW reenactment in 40-degree weather. :)
Can you fit a Pietta snub nose barrel on a Uberti 1860 44cal?
The Taylors firearms website has every part for every model they sell. You could mix and match parts to make whatever you want.
Pietta should watch this video, nice video!
I would have just decreased the diameter of the rod rather than permanently altering the frame.
It's far easier to ream out a hole than it is to turn down a rod. But I understand not wanting to alter the frame.
Or just get a Uberti 👍
@@billmelater6470 Actually, put the rod in your drill press and turn it down using a fine file or diamond, I would think that would be easier!
@@cziprick That can be done depending on how much or how little you need to take down. I just don't recommend anyone make a habit of that since a drill press isn't built for side loads like a lathe.
@@billmelater6470
That is hardly hardly a side load not to mention you could do it with a regular drill if you had to. I wouldnt even use files. A few graduations of 3m n some micro mesh or something to finish. 15 minute job n its perfectly round n concentric, no gouges or flat spots and you didnt have to take a file or dremmel to your frame. Files should be avoided if possible a file is never a precision tool
Drinking coffee and *LIKED* another informative video .. to-date I've only used round ball from my BP revolvers and looking to trying the conicals. *LT 1st Minn Sharpshooters*
I would have thought you would have the outside dimensions of the rammer machined down to the others size, had no idea it would be that easy of a mod to make, a big thumbs up, thx for the vid.
Me too, but then I thought about how what appears to be case hardening would be machined off leaving the rammer looking bland. Dustin's gun mod was a better solution and it makes sense. :)
I had a very smart gunsmith tell me "if you are going to muck up a part, muck up the cheap one". Personally I would fit the rammer (cheap) to the barrel (not cheap) and still have both pieces fit. Nice work thanks.
I would normally agree, but I can’t duplicate the finish on the rammer. The barrel is just blued.
Great info. Good to know for sure. Most folks don't know that they are different. Lots of little pieces too that are different. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Dustin nice easy fix will definitely consider this fix for my pietta.
Thanks for posting this video Dustin I will be doing the same to my Pietta 1860 Army to shoot the Eras Gone Kerr bullet.
great vidio sir thank you
Great video. I might have to do this to mine
As said in the vid, a couple ways to deal with the problem.
If the Uberti doesnt fit, filing the frame(barrel) hides the cut & blue to an interior area but prevents 'restoring' back to Pietta rammer.
Turning down the Uberti rammer leaves the gun whole, but has the cut & blue very visible on previously Case color rammer.
Drilling the Pietta only changes the Rammer in a hidden way, and its cheaper to modify part you have than buy Uberti replacement... but must be done precisely
I'm going to driving by a Cabelas in about a week and a half when we go up north for the holidays, I'm seriously thinking about picking up a black powder pistol, love your video's and this one was helpful.
Thanks for watching!
I like it! Since these are both supposed to be reproductions of that gun I don't doubt the interchangeability, but one or the other was a skosh off. Thumb up. ;-)
Great video. Live your knowledge of these guns. You are one of the best teachers. More videos please.
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Thank you!
Very good information thank you for sharing!👍🏾😀🇺🇸❤️
Thanks for watching!
Excellent video .
Thank you!
Looks like quick work either way if you have a lathe
Dowel + Sandpaper = A cheap, but effective reamer too.
Nice job
Thank you for the information! 👍👍
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Good information. Thanx Dustin.
Heck yes, so easy I also caught how to open mine up either or will work for me I`ll probably end up Umberti switch, I can not take a drill press into work, I can a barrel, file and some blue though.
Wow absolutely genius. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Fun Video. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Interesting info thanks for taking the time
great vid, thanks so much!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Great information.
Thanks for the vid, Dustin. I am still on the fence about changing over to the conical, tho. I have seen many comments that the round balls are actually more accurate. Thoughts?
I always get tighter groups with conicals.
I bought one for an Unerti to put into my 1860 Army and it was no where near that deep.
How is this issue on Remington revolvers? Both 44 and 36 cals?
Good video Mark
In my Pietta 1851 Navy "Yank" model ( .44 caliber ) with silver-plated frame and all, I don't load the cylinder on the gun. I remove it and use a heavy-duty benchtop ramming tool so I can't say how my conicals would load with the cylinder attached to the gun.
Wouldn't it have been easier and better to chuck the rammer into a drill press or hand drill, use a fine file against it to reduce the diameter? That way you would not have had to modify the barrel/frame. It would have removed the case colors from the rammer but having it just blued would still have made it look attractive. That's just my opinion on this.
Yes but you have to already have those tools and be very careful.
Distin can you replace the rammer on the Pietta 1858 Remington the same way?
Unfortunately, it won’t help because they both have that same problem on that model. However, so did the original Remington. That gun just isn’t as good for conical bullets as the Colts are.
@@GunsOfTheWest Thank You so much, Distin for getting back to me so fast! I just buy your paper cartridge kit and it works as good as you show and at a good price! Keep up the good work Joe out here in Arizona!
Decent vid, but needs more Pastry. How about including a shot of the hotel breakfast bar nest time?
LOL!
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With the .36 colt bullet, do you need to open up the loading area on a pietta 1851 navy to load it?
I have a 44 cal filipietta black powder. I shoot lead balls in it. What I want to know what other type of rounds can be fired in this gun Enjoy your video on black powder guns. Going to have to and see if you have anything on 50 cal CVA rifles. thanks
So in your last video you mentioned that you didn't like the pietta inscriptions on the barrel. How difficult would it be to move or remove them? I'm not sure if that is legal. Please let me know.
I've heard of gunsmiths and movie prop makers 'defarbing' replica guns to make them look more like the originals. This could involve something like taking the barrel and turning it 90 degrees so the text ends up on bottom, or filling in the inscribed text.
If the text is a legal requirement, I imagine it is only in the case of _selling_ the gun. Kind of like cutting off that 'Do Not Remove' tag on your bed mattress.
After you cold blued it did you also put some oil on the reblued hole as well?
Not yet, but I’m going to. I just use the same Ballistol that I always use for oiling.
I think that I would have taken some of the thickness from the rammer than to filed on my revolver. Or, better yet, just take the cylinder out to load with conical bullets if you want to shoot them.
How much difference is there in rammers? 10 thou? 50 thou? How much metal did you actually need to remove?
I didn’t actually take a measurement, but the amount of metal removed was very little.
Hey Dustin how about interchangeable parts with a 1848 baby dragoon made by ASM.....I need help on this old pistol
Unfortunately, I don’t have one of those. If I get one though, I’ll definitely put out lots of videos on it. Thanks for watching!
@@GunsOfTheWest no problem thank you for the reply the only replies I get are from Bill....
I thought the title read "Peta Vs Uber" and i was very confused at first.
Or buy an uberti
Could you also sand down the rammer?
Yes you could, but it would be a lot harder and it is simply a lot easier just to do it as he did. CloneInvictus.
@@buddysbird3128 Lmfao Sup Buddy. You're into black powder stuff now? How's EBI?
@@cloneinvictus9206 Hi, as I am now a Civil War Reenactor I know a thing or two about black powder.(technically I am not in my unit until I get inducted on the 6th of March but I already own a rifle) Although I am too young to fire my rifle on the field so I just fire my Parker Hale 1853 Enfield Rifle that cost me $1200 at home. If you have an old beat up Enfield I might buy or trade you. EBI is good 23 thousand plus players. I am not that active, but I do go to a training here and there. If you have any other questions just DM me on somewhere. BuddysBird is the name I use for all of my accounts so if you look me up you will find me. Kind Regards, Buddy.
@@buddysbird3128 Lol that's cool. I'm thinking about building a 300 blackout AR-15. I am going to sell one of my black powder revolvers to pay for it. It's a Pietta "confederate" .44 1851 brass frame. It's basically a Schneider & Glassick revolver. I'd sell it to you if you wanted it. lol
@@cloneinvictus9206 How much would you ask. I would do no more than $200 and that's my top price especially for a .44 cal. I can not buy an AR-15 as is expected if you are under 23, and even worse if you love in Crab Land. If you want to talk more you can email me at thebuddysbird@gmail.com. I will edit that email in 2 days so remember it!
Dustin, do you nitrate your coffee paper?
James Sparhawk I don’t. I’ve noticed that nitrated paper often still doesn’t burn completely away, so I don’t bother with it.
Bluing? Who needs bluing :) lol
You lost me at filling lol ill just shoot balls of lead lol
It’s easier to buff the shaft instead of the frame hole. Jus sayin.
Also, a revolver nomenclature is not referred to as a gun. And there is no such ammunition known as .45 long colt. An aside, the navy was only .36. The army was .44. Just for your viewers, as I’m sure you know that.
Hi Norman. On your comment to Dustin, I and I'm sure many others will agree that modifying the diameter of the plunger would be preferential however as I think the job through I think one would need some unique tools/equipment to achieve this wouldn't you agree? It's not something I can imagine being accomplished with a drill to turn the shaft. So, not many would be able to turn the shaft down. Depending on the source I would agree that the term gun is inappropriate. In fact I know in many nations' militaries the term gun only applies to something on wheels, howitzer etc. so "gun" will not apply to any hand held firearms whatsoever. Let's be understandable to the masses though, other than firearms aficionados, everyone else will call a firearm a gun. Agreed? After all Norman, it's just not to interest the firearm followers but hopefully to get a point across to the politically correct. Personally I am OK with the term "45 Long Colt". Most of us know the correct term for the cartridge but encounter "45 LC" so often and by so many, to the less educated it helps in identifying the difference between it and "45ACP".
@@ScottGpa pard? It took too many words to to make your point. I’m dizzy. It’s either written on the head stamp or it is not. Sheesh. So much education , from a “ free” indoctrination center. You kids never question it, your “ teacher” is never questioned. My my my
Will this work on a pietta 1860 44 Cal Sheriff Model ?
Even easier. On the 1860, the Uberti rammer fits the Pietta without the need to remove any metal.
@@GunsOfTheWest just ordered a 1860 Uberti 44 Cal loading plunger from
Taylor’s. Thanks for your help, much appreciated. Have a wonderful day, and stay out of the heat.