I understand that some of the Andrew's raiders of the Great Locomotive chase fame may have had a few of this gun's after the General ran out of steam a few members along with their Leader nearly had a gun fight with some Johnny Rebels who was chasing after them. I have read that Andrews's Gun had fancy grips
The deal with a Minie ball is that it's smaller than the bore so it'll ram down the barrel more easily (upon firing, the back of the bullet balloons out to create the tight fit). Revolver bullets don't need to be undersized as they're not rammed down the barrel at all.
The Colt Navy is truly a Gunfighter’s Pistol. The white ivory grips makes the pistol more flashy ( and in this case I like that). Thank You for another well produced video for the public to enjoy and learn from. Have only Happy Trails!
Ivory was reasonable tough (elephants dig roots with those tusks daily, and billiard balls were ivory) but carvable, and even polished ivory has a surprising bit of "grip" against your skin, even when covered in sweat or (yep) blood.
That intro was great. I inherited my 1851 navy from girlfriends grandfather. He was a luthier and a mechanist, lovely cared for the thing all his life. During his ailing years, it sat in the case he made for it, and slowly gummed up. I've taken the care to replace parts and file everything down so it runs like clockwork again. If only I could find caps and powder, had it for 2 years now and still haven't gotten to shoot my smoke wagon. XD
@@ArizonaGhostriders The mixup98 channel just did a presentation on his .38 snubbies using AMMO Incorporated cartridges from a small manufacturer in Arizona. Perhaps you 2 could get together and suggest they could market niche a line of percussion caps, something worth stockpiling since there's a shortage regular channels are neglecting. Then you can do percussion demos.
I love the Colt Navy and the 44 Remington. They shoot great and actually have good stopping " power" with conical bullets and a good powder load recommend for the guns.
In theory, with the right load, it will achieve similar ballistics to several modern handgun cartridges considered suitable for self defense. Though, I suppose that in the age before hemostatic gauze, pressure bandages, and practical tourniquets most anything spitting a projectile would have been best stood behind.
@@auburn696 The 1851 is about equal to a .380 ACP. and the 1860 Army is closer to a .45 ACP. Not the type of magnum power we expect today but very deadly
This was one of my first six-shooters, and for percussion, my favorite. It has the right combination of heft, power and accuracy for my particular taste. It's not hard to load and if you grease it right you can leave it loaded for weeks without compromising dependability. It is a good looking piece and comfortable to handle. All in all, well done design. Thanks for the highlight. Best of Days.
I remember being a very young man, newly married, and not having a lot of money. The first hangun I purchased from trading post up in Bondurant Wyoming was a kit gun, 1851 in 36 caliber. Now, I own several bp revolver. A variety of Walkers, 51's, 60's, 58's, and a Gunnison in 36. It is major addictive. By the way, I just bought a new Uberti Cattleman in 44-40. I now own two in that caliber. Wahoo. I loved thus episode. Thanks my friend.
If I’m not mistaken, the Colt Navy was the revolver directly chosen by the confederate states during the civil war. This is part of the reason why pretty much every confederate made revolver was a .36 caliber instead of .44
The 1851 was prolific during the war, though confederates used a myriad of handguns due to the nature of their strained supply lines and trouble sustaining large contract orders because of their depleted coffers.
The first black powder firearm I owned was a reproduction 1851 Navy Colt. Bought used for $10. I was 16 yoa and would carry it with me when hunting. One of the luckiest shots I ever made was with that revolver. My brother, aged 9, was with me squirrel hunting, he with a shotgun me with a rifle. We saw a squirrel at about 30 yards. He said, "Betcha can't hit him with your pistol." I pulled that smoke pole, aimed low, (they all shoot high at that range) at let fly. To my surprise, the squirrel fell out dead, shot through the head. Of course I told my brother I did it by skill. He would brag to everyone about my ability with the revolver. Now, almost 50 years later, I haven't told him any different.
Thoroughly enjoyed this Santee. I use both revolver and semi auto guns in my work but am enjoying learning about their predecessors. I had a police chief that wanted to carry his original Navy Colt on duty but couldn't due to laws dictating what LEOs could carry.
How old was this police chief? We can't have people potentially getting killed because some nostalgic officer wants to carry outdated technology and has a cap jam or needs more than 6 shots to put down an active shooter.
Just amazing. Speaks to the practicality of the weapon. Very safe, and, if one knows how, can provide almost as much fire, and as fast as the more modern guns. Not the capacity, obviously, but methinks in most real deals, the first 2-3 shots will decide the outcome. Can't say, never having been a cop. Hope i never have to learn firsthand. God bless that Police Chief. I think i want to live in a town like that
I own a .36 Colt Navy from Pietta. Pre-pandemic, I stocked up on caps big time figuring they would be short later. Don't shoot it much, but when I do it hits what I aim it at. Just remember to aim a little low. My load is 20 grains.
Another one is, if the info i got is correct, he was among the first, and ONLY people to ever have a "wild west shootdown" recorded. He actually nailed a dude who had won his pocket watch in a card game, and violated his behest to never wear it in public. The offender shot, and missed, and Hickok killed him with one shot from, like, 75 yards? An amazing piece of work, if the account is accurate. Later, some little f****r came in and shot Hickok in the back of the head as he was at cards. Can't remember all the details, but the account sounded legit. Do check it
Santee Just watched your 1851 presentation. Well Done. As to that Notorious Woods Gang, I was in the comments that night for your live chat. I also had some dealings with 11bangbang. I swapped a southpaw flinter to Garrett for a 1858 New Army Remington 36. There show and yours are some of my favorites on YT. Keep up the work and keep the West Alive!
Lol that 51 navy is very pretty. I get so used to originals seeing them with a nice new finish is quite striking. Its so crazy watching my 49 pocket be on 3 UA-camrs channels i have been watching for a long time. My little 49 pocket is becoming famous. Most people dont know this. but watch 11 bang bangs gun actions videos and you can watch me buy that 49 pocket. Also looks like dustin is really having fun with it.
One cool fact about the battle of Campeche is that is was the only naval battle in world history where a sail ship sunk a steam powered ship(it took 2 Texas sail ships to sink the Mexican steam one but still sank). Also I really enjoyed the video and learned a lot, don't stop making them.
I remember a UA-cam channel of Metal Detection found one of these babies in an old Battle Site in Argentina , from around the 1860s .Their popularity was hardly matched .The fact that they are popular even today shows it .
First gun I shot was a 51 Navy in .44. Now I’ve had a few and work in the firearms industry. Next one I get will be engraved and displayed. Thanks for this episode.
Thank you again Santee, for keeping the old west alive ! I own a replica 3rd model Colt Dragoon in .44 and a 1858 Remington . NOW I HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER ONE ! Also buy some bullet molds , and cleaning tips in that caliber , and a holster, and polymer white grips ( those looking very nice) . Up side …… TOYS !
The Colt Navy is my favorite handgun. I carried the Colt Navy as a Confederate Cavalry and Confederate Guerrilla reenactor. I also carried the Griswold and Gunnison. My next 2 handguns will be The Man with no name colt navy. They are made to take a 38 cartridge. I plan to add ivory grips.
Well good morning Santee. The best part of my Saturday morning. A cup of coffee, and an Arizona Ghostriders video. Stay safe out there, and take it easy man. Thanks for the new video.
Excellent episode on an excellent firearm. I carry two 51 cap n ball colts as a KS Redleg and old west reenactor. It is easy to see why they were so loved. Very balanced and accurate firearms. One other point that could of been mentioned in this episode is that the reason the 51 survived well into the cartridge era is due to the 1871 Richardson-Mason conversion chambered in 38LC. I carry one of these also when doing the old west time period reenactments. Ironically the 1851 and conversion were replaced with the 72 open top colt which looks just like a 51 colt. Keep up the good work love the channel!
Thanks! I already did a video on conversions. I have an Open Top and from a distance, they are similar in appearance, but up close there are differences. Loading lever is gone and the barrel is cylindrical. Also the they moved the rear sight from the hammer (notch) to the rear of the barrel. Later on it came out with the larger 1860 Army grip (but mine has the Navy grip).
You are correct I should have said very similar. Also the Richardson conversion still had the loading lever but the Richardson-Mason did not as 51 cap and ball parts were starting to run thin. Do you have a link to the conversion video I looked for it but havent found it. Getting ready to watch your Dalton video as that is my home town and some of the historical reenacting me and my group does. Thanks again keep up the good work
Sure, like my favorite mortar and pestle 😂 It's GARBAGE! These things were garbage when they were the technology of the day, and they've only become more useless every day afterwards.
My first handgun of any kind is a Pietta 1851 Navy .36. I recently had it sent off to be refurbished and able to accept a gated conversion cylinder in .38 Long Colt.
Dave Rodgers never lubes and has never experienced a chain fire. There is some great info on the misinformation regarding chain fires in his article on Navies (link in the description field).
The Colt Navy was truly iconic and very popular in its time. It was so popular that it was still arm of choice even when the equally iconic Colt Army was very popular at the same time.
It was produced from 1851 t0 1873 , replaced in production by the SAA. Official sources say that 272,000 were produced.. Thanks for solid history here.
@@ArizonaGhostriders I know, right?! I always keep my eyes out. We’ve found a few railroad spikes from the 1870s while riding our mountain bikes, but no historic firearms…yet
The .36 Navy model is my favorite percussion revolver. My replicas were Piettas but the Ubertis are best, I think. Colt Signature Series reproductions can be found on GunBroker and GunAuction, occasionally. I have some dug, .36 caliber bullets from the battlefields around Atlanta. Gen. Lee carried a Colt Navy, it was very popular. With a conical bullet it is about like a modern .380 in power.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Piettas are fine. They shoot good. Avoid "Magnum" percussion No. 11 caps, and check frequently for squashed, spent caps blocking the hammer fall over the back strap. Modern caps are hotter than 1860s ones. 👍
I’ve got a Navy I built from a CVA kit in the early 80’s. I ordered it from JC Penny or Sears catalog when I was 12 or 13 I can’t remember. I built several black powder kits in the 80’s including a Hawken rifle, I also have a factory Thompson Center Hawken.
Great review of a fine pistol. And as a Texan, I am obligated to brag, I mean relate history. The Naval Battle of Campeche pitted the navies of the Republic of Texas and the Republic of Yucatán against the Mexican Navy. The Texan sailing ships sloop-of-war Austin and the brig-of-war Wharton defeated the Mexican navy's steam ships, Guadalupe, Regenerator and Montezuma. It is said to be the only naval battle in history where sailing ships overcame steam-powered ships in combat. Colt engraved a scene of the battle on the cylinders of the 1851 and 1861 Colt Navy Revolvers and the Colt 1860 Army Revolver.
I loved my 1851 Navy. Only issue I ever had with it was the Cleaning. Cleaning after hand loading each chamber was easy, using paper cartridges was when things got a bit tough. Don't know if it is the paper my friend used to roll them (recycled coffee filter paper, the brown kind) or how he rolled them. After shooting 12 of em, I go home to clean it and without thinking, dunk the cylinder in a pot of hot water. What I didn't realize was there was a clump of paped in the bottom of each chamber that soaked up water and didn't come out with cleaning. Cleaned it, oiled it, and put it up in the safe. Come back to it the next week and the nippes are coated in rust
I’ve got the Navy Colt my great great grandfather carried in the civil war. I’ve got the bullet mould and holster he used too. His initials, the same as my dad’s, are scratched into the butt strap.
Nice production, judging from the regularity of sold out guns at the popular merchants they appear to becoming more popular, I would like to see more content on these as I have many. Thanks for all the effort.
Glad to see you guys doing a collaboration video. It wasn't long after subbing to Dustin's channel that I got my first black powder pistol. It would be great to see you doing some shooting Santee, especially BP. Great video, stay safe.
Awesome video Santee!! I love BP firearms, they're such a blast to shoot...no pun intended. Never got around to getting one yet though, mainly for price reasons and when I went to look they didn't have the model that I was looking for. One day I'll get it. See you on down the trail!!!
Great episode. Dustin's paper cartridge makers are awesome, work great, and easy to use to make uniform size rounds with. I love my Pietta reproduction Colt Navy .36 Caliber 1851 Revolver. I also have a .44 fantasy version 1851. Both are good shooters and very accurate. My first real love of guns are my cap and ball percussion and flint locks. Hey! Where was Rex? 🦖 😁
For 40 years I've owned a repro 1860 in 44 caliber. It came with a wood display case and a detachable shoulder stock. It is the most difficult carbine to shoulder when the stock is attached, but its steampunk appearance compensates for any impracticably. The cutest Colt percussion I've ever seen is the 1862 Police in 36 caliber. It's so pretty, I can't bring myself to get it dirty by shooting it.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Here's a free tip I learned the hard way after I bought my first cap and ball pistol. Don't try cleaning them in the dishwasher unless you enjoy that rusted patina look.
I have a second generation colt navy, love it. Once you hold one, you'll see why they are so popular with the gun slingers of old. perfect balance, it was made to be held with one hand. mine has custom walnut grips and it fits my hand perfectly.
Cap and ball revolvers are a blast to shoot. With Practice You can Load it in just over a minute. Carry a small tube of oil to put on the cylinder pin when it gets gummy. I use to hunt rattle snakes with mine when I was a young buck
I have a pair of reproduction navy revolvers that I sometimes use for sass competition. I originally bought them to use with cap n ball but cannot find percussion caps anywhere so I bought Kirst Kartridge conversions for them and shoot low power 38 special loads out of them. They are my favorite because of the feel and they are very accurate even though the .358 bullets in the 38 special are supposed to be a little small, I’ve not had a problem. The kirst conversion kits can be a little finicky sometimes but I still love to shoot them. I understand the popularity. I wish I could just find some no11 caps.
Good video as always, Santee. Now do a video on the 1858 Remington. Most people think of the army model and don't realize, or know, that it came in both .44 and .36. The navy version is the one I plan on getting, if I can ever find one. For those that may not know, a .44 caliber cap & ball revolver was commonly referred to as an army and the .36 as a navy, whether or not they were used by either branch of service.
Good point about them sticking around even after cartridges were invented. Way easier to find and even make ammo. I just learned last year how they started to convert them to cartridges (maybe you did a video on it?). I found that pretty fascinating. Anyway, congrats on your new gun. She’s a beauty,
I used to have me a couple of Uberti 1851 navy .36 caliber revolvers and with 15 grains of Goex 3f and a .375 cast lead round ball and a Cabela’s lubed felt wad between powder and ball and a Remington number 11 cap I could hit 6 shots fired in a session within a 4 inch center mass group from 15 yards away with both of them. They are only putting out maybe 120 foot pounds of energy but with correct shot placement they can be deadly especially beefing up the powder charge to 20 grains
Hey Santee! I guess we can conclude that the famous Colt Navy Six revolver was the gun which tamed the Wild West? By the way, do you happen to know the make of the gun which Steve McQueen carried in the western series, "Wanted Dead Or Alive"? I am not familiar with guns but it looks like a sawed off shotgun or may be a long barreled pistol like the Colt Navy Six. Thanks for another video showcasing America's great western heritage! I always look forward to Saturday mornings watching your channel. Have a great weekend!
After a year of shooting an 1851 reproduction in .36, I tend to take it shooting more often than the .44, 9 mm, or .357. It’s a wonderfully ergonomic pistol with just enough power to be effective.
Your firearms videos are always interesting & I have a couple observations; They must have been pretty good or lucky to see through all that smoke & they musta had big pockets for the "pocket models".
Who thinks they went about _hiding_ their pocket guns in that pocket? They could just use pocket as a makeshift holster. You wouldn't want to lose precious seconds trying to find the pistol's grip within your pocket, when you can just have the grip protruding out from the top.
I have the same pistol that I've used when I was doing a cavalry impression of the Civil War. I love the weight of it and feels that I have something in my hand.
Ooohhh such a sweet piece of bang right there!!! I have an Italian repro of the brass frame Confederate clone and it is a sweetheart. I like loading blanks on the 4th of July with slower rifle powder... It sure gets messy but that long flash and wagon sized cloud of smoke is so worth it!!! Keep it up!
@@ArizonaGhostriders I forgot to mention that for the blank charge I up the load a bit because there is no bullet.... I actually use a compressed charge and felt wadding with lots of Bore Butter to prevent chain firing. I also use Bore Butter for lubricant and that seems to work better than other lubes and keeps all of my BP guns cleaner than normal. Hope this helps!!
Another excellent video Santee!! I also wondered how many men's eyes were damaged when the gunsmoke blew into thier eyes, and what the kickback was like when it was fired.
@@ArizonaGhostriders I reckon you should do a video on Ned, it's quite the interesting story. Quick word of advice so you don't end up like Ned please do check the correct pronunciations of Australian words, it's dumb i know but we do sort of get annoyed at it haha.
Great video, thanks for educating me! I stumbled upon the Navy Colt in Red Dead Online and didn't know it uses paper instead of cartridges. I wish Red Dead would point some of those interesting facts out a bit more. Not necessary for the gameplay, but some additional depth to the (already pretty deep) game.
I have a pair of .36 cal 51 Navies and a .44 cal 58 Remington NMA ( all Pietta ) that are a literal blast to shoot. Many hundreds of rounds fired though them and it's still a tough call which ones I prefer. I shoot mostly conicals cast from Eras Gone molds. I'm almost sorry to say they've recently taken a back seat to my flintlocks...
Yes! Great vid, Santee. Welcome to the world of real smoke wagons... since there's none of that new-fangled smokeless powder. Have fun shooting yer targets... if you can see them after 2 or 3 shots! 😉😁 Fun fact, while I wouldn't suggest an 1851 as a primary EDC, they can be. I often carry mine (left hip, "cavalry" (butt forward) draw) alongside my M1911, or Remington "1858" (.45 Colt conversion), knowing that my Six is very reliable, especially as a back-up. It was a good choice for defense (and, um, offense... simmer down Bill) back then, for a reason. Like you mentioned, James Butler Hickok had some Sixes, and it was allegedly an 1851 that he shot Davis Tutt with... at 75 yards!
Congrats Santee on your new London model revolver. It would be fun to see you become another Wild Bill with that hogs leg. I bet you could take the cohones of a mosquito at 1,000 paces with both eyes closed and your hands tied behind your back with that thing. After all it fires ball ammunition so why not? Thanks for another great video Santee! U da man
My second favorite Colt cap and ball revolver, right behind it's updated brother the 1861 Navy. A fun fact, Colt used the 1851 Navy grip frame on the 1873 Single Action Army, the grips are identical and interchangeable.
I can testify to that, as I swapped the grips between an Uberti Navy and a Cattleman with no problem. Now my Navy has a blued steel grip and the 1873 has a brass grip.
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Correction: the conical bullet pictured is not a minié ball (even though they are both conical)
Well, it could be a mini ball…
I understand that some of the Andrew's raiders of the Great Locomotive chase fame may have had a few of this gun's
after the General ran out of steam a few members along with their Leader nearly had a gun fight with some Johnny Rebels who was chasing after them. I have read that Andrews's Gun had fancy grips
@@eliotreader8220 interesting find..
The deal with a Minie ball is that it's smaller than the bore so it'll ram down the barrel more easily (upon firing, the back of the bullet balloons out to create the tight fit). Revolver bullets don't need to be undersized as they're not rammed down the barrel at all.
Bought one of these about a month ago finding very difficult to get ammo nice gun though Chris uk 😊
The Colt Navy is truly a Gunfighter’s Pistol. The white ivory grips makes the pistol more flashy ( and in this case I like that). Thank You for another well produced video for the public to enjoy and learn from. Have only Happy Trails!
Much appreciated!
Have two replicas. Love the way they balance.
Ivory was reasonable tough (elephants dig roots with those tusks daily, and billiard balls were ivory) but carvable, and even polished ivory has a surprising bit of "grip" against your skin, even when covered in sweat or (yep) blood.
That intro was great. I inherited my 1851 navy from girlfriends grandfather. He was a luthier and a mechanist, lovely cared for the thing all his life. During his ailing years, it sat in the case he made for it, and slowly gummed up. I've taken the care to replace parts and file everything down so it runs like clockwork again. If only I could find caps and powder, had it for 2 years now and still haven't gotten to shoot my smoke wagon. XD
I can't find caps either!
@@ArizonaGhostriders The mixup98 channel just did a presentation on his .38 snubbies using AMMO Incorporated cartridges from a small manufacturer in Arizona. Perhaps you 2 could get together and suggest they could market niche a line of percussion caps, something worth stockpiling since there's a shortage regular channels are neglecting. Then you can do percussion demos.
@@richardkluesek4301 Great idea!
@@ArizonaGhostriders If I win the lottery I'll open up my own outfit and go into competitive production.
@@richardkluesek4301 Do it!
I love the Colt Navy and the 44 Remington. They shoot great and actually have good stopping " power" with conical bullets and a good powder load recommend for the guns.
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In theory, with the right load, it will achieve similar ballistics to several modern handgun cartridges considered suitable for self defense. Though, I suppose that in the age before hemostatic gauze, pressure bandages, and practical tourniquets most anything spitting a projectile would have been best stood behind.
@@auburn696 The 1851 is about equal to a .380 ACP. and the 1860 Army is closer to a .45 ACP. Not the type of magnum power we expect today but very deadly
This was one of my first six-shooters, and for percussion, my favorite. It has the right combination of heft, power and accuracy for my particular taste. It's not hard to load and if you grease it right you can leave it loaded for weeks without compromising dependability. It is a good looking piece and comfortable to handle. All in all, well done design. Thanks for the highlight. Best of Days.
Thank you!
I'm curious what you think of the Remington of the same era and how it measures up to the Colt Navy?
Keep in mind that the grease will melt in the heat.
@@eldorados_lost_searcher I like the Remington better (my opinion). I find it easier to load and more sturdy. Again, this is my opinion!
@@garymi2 Yep. Colt didn't recommend greasing them.
I remember being a very young man, newly married, and not having a lot of money. The first hangun I purchased from trading post up in Bondurant Wyoming was a kit gun, 1851 in 36 caliber. Now, I own several bp revolver. A variety of Walkers, 51's, 60's, 58's, and a Gunnison in 36. It is major addictive. By the way, I just bought a new Uberti Cattleman in 44-40. I now own two in that caliber. Wahoo. I loved thus episode. Thanks my friend.
You're welcome, Ralph. Yeah, you have nice pistolas, pard.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Si, como no. Ha ha ha
If I’m not mistaken, the Colt Navy was the revolver directly chosen by the confederate states during the civil war. This is part of the reason why pretty much every confederate made revolver was a .36 caliber instead of .44
The Confederates had knock-offs of the pistol as well.
@@ArizonaGhostriders That they did, I believe the Griswold and Gunnison is the most common confederate knock off
Mosby and his men only carried a brace of 44 colts ,and extra cylinders
The 1851 was prolific during the war, though confederates used a myriad of handguns due to the nature of their strained supply lines and trouble sustaining large contract orders because of their depleted coffers.
One reason for .36 over .44 . Less lead per round so more rounds to the pound.
The first black powder firearm I owned was a reproduction 1851 Navy Colt. Bought used for $10. I was 16 yoa and would carry it with me when hunting. One of the luckiest shots I ever made was with that revolver. My brother, aged 9, was with me squirrel hunting, he with a shotgun me with a rifle. We saw a squirrel at about 30 yards. He said, "Betcha can't hit him with your pistol." I pulled that smoke pole, aimed low, (they all shoot high at that range) at let fly. To my surprise, the squirrel fell out dead, shot through the head. Of course I told my brother I did it by skill. He would brag to everyone about my ability with the revolver. Now, almost 50 years later, I haven't told him any different.
Let's hope he doesn't read this comment!
Thoroughly enjoyed this Santee. I use both revolver and semi auto guns in my work but am enjoying learning about their predecessors. I had a police chief that wanted to carry his original Navy Colt on duty but couldn't due to laws dictating what LEOs could carry.
Thank you!
What a shame. Let the old warrior pick his choice of weapon.
How old was this police chief? We can't have people potentially getting killed because some nostalgic officer wants to carry outdated technology and has a cap jam or needs more than 6 shots to put down an active shooter.
@@BertieW0oster but then again it was a police chief.
Just amazing. Speaks to the practicality of the weapon. Very safe, and, if one knows how, can provide almost as much fire, and as fast as the more modern guns. Not the capacity, obviously, but methinks in most real deals, the first 2-3 shots will decide the outcome. Can't say, never having been a cop. Hope i never have to learn firsthand. God bless that Police Chief. I think i want to live in a town like that
I own a .36 Colt Navy from Pietta. Pre-pandemic, I stocked up on caps big time figuring they would be short later. Don't shoot it much, but when I do it hits what I aim it at. Just remember to aim a little low. My load is 20 grains.
Sounds like that works pretty well for ya!
Awesome to know about the older Colts. I have a Colt that was my grandfathers
Keep it and pass it down the family line
@@ArizonaGhostriders I intend to
Fun Fact: One of Wild Bill’s Navy was sold for $.25 at the time of his death… recently was auctioned for $525,000
Right. RIA. You can watch the auction online.
@@ArizonaGhostriders yes I loved the navy it was beautiful with white handle and carved designs
Another one is, if the info i got is correct, he was among the first, and ONLY people to ever have a "wild west shootdown" recorded. He actually nailed a dude who had won his pocket watch in a card game, and violated his behest to never wear it in public. The offender shot, and missed, and Hickok killed him with one shot from, like, 75 yards? An amazing piece of work, if the account is accurate. Later, some little f****r came in and shot Hickok in the back of the head as he was at cards. Can't remember all the details, but the account sounded legit. Do check it
@@kellymontgomery1293 … I love it
Santee Just watched your 1851 presentation. Well Done. As to that Notorious Woods Gang, I was in the comments that night for your live chat. I also had some dealings with 11bangbang. I swapped a southpaw flinter to Garrett for a 1858 New Army Remington 36. There show and yours are some of my favorites on YT. Keep up the work and keep the West Alive!
Thanks, Grey PIlgrim! Yeah, those guys are pretty good folks.
@@ArizonaGhostriders btw: ua-cam.com/users/pilgrimm23
I went to Las Vegas for Vacation santee. Your state IS BEAUTIFUL!!!!! Loved Arizona!
Thank you!
The Navy.36 always brings up images of the frontier and old west days , to me anyway !! Thx. 👍 .... old history buff.
You're welcome!
Lol that 51 navy is very pretty. I get so used to originals seeing them with a nice new finish is quite striking. Its so crazy watching my 49 pocket be on 3 UA-camrs channels i have been watching for a long time. My little 49 pocket is becoming famous. Most people dont know this. but watch 11 bang bangs gun actions videos and you can watch me buy that 49 pocket. Also looks like dustin is really having fun with it.
Snapper, that piece is amazing, as are your other originals no doubt. Thanks for acquiring these and taking care of them.
@@ArizonaGhostriders thanks Santee. Really looking forward to watching you shoot your 51 navy.
One cool fact about the battle of Campeche is that is was the only naval battle in world history where a sail ship sunk a steam powered ship(it took 2 Texas sail ships to sink the Mexican steam one but still sank). Also I really enjoyed the video and learned a lot, don't stop making them.
I appreciate the extra info!
Real good episode. Not an easy gun to spin. Have fun with that one.
I thought Terrence Hill did a commendable job with is backward sping into the holster.
@@ArizonaGhostriders, he did and did great with every pistol he used.
I remember a UA-cam channel of Metal Detection found one of these babies in an old Battle Site in Argentina , from around the 1860s .Their popularity was hardly matched .The fact that they are popular even today shows it .
Absolutely.
First gun I shot was a 51 Navy in .44. Now I’ve had a few and work in the firearms industry. Next one I get will be engraved and displayed. Thanks for this episode.
You're welcome.
This one really clicked. I got a bang out of it Shout out to the 11 bang bang gang.
Much appreciated!
Love this weapon. I use a non-firing replica for a lot of my Western photo shoots.
That works! Many of them are nice looking
Good show, fellows. Man, I love the old cap&ball pistols & y'all made a great episode. I'll see ya on down the trail, & many thanks...
You're welcome.
Thank you again Santee, for keeping the old west alive ! I own a replica 3rd model Colt Dragoon in .44 and a 1858 Remington . NOW I HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER ONE ! Also buy some bullet molds , and cleaning tips in that caliber , and a holster, and polymer white grips ( those looking very nice) . Up side …… TOYS !
Thank you! Much appreciated!
The Colt Navy is my favorite handgun. I carried the Colt Navy as a Confederate Cavalry and Confederate Guerrilla reenactor. I also carried the Griswold and Gunnison. My next 2 handguns will be The Man with no name colt navy. They are made to take a 38 cartridge. I plan to add ivory grips.
Nice Eric. I hope you'll share some pics.
Black grips. Roy goode
Our most famous Aussie bushranger Ned Kelly had one. Thanks mate
You bet
Thanks for mentioning our Aussie icon, Ned Kelly!. I wonder if any of your watchers know the story of the world's first Iron Man.
I think so, given that there are two movies out on him and his story is very fascinating.
That is one beautiful Navy!!! I love all the old revolvers and pistols of the 1800’s.
It is!
Santee, you all did it again. Fast paced, great information, terrific pics, videos, and audios, ALWAYS interesting... 👏🤠👏👏🤠👏
Much appreciated!
Well good morning Santee. The best part of my Saturday morning. A cup of coffee, and an Arizona Ghostriders video.
Stay safe out there, and take it easy man. Thanks for the new video.
Thanks, you too!
Excellent episode on an excellent firearm. I carry two 51 cap n ball colts as a KS Redleg and old west reenactor. It is easy to see why they were so loved. Very balanced and accurate firearms.
One other point that could of been mentioned in this episode is that the reason the 51 survived well into the cartridge era is due to the 1871 Richardson-Mason conversion chambered in 38LC. I carry one of these also when doing the old west time period reenactments.
Ironically the 1851 and conversion were replaced with the 72 open top colt which looks just like a 51 colt.
Keep up the good work love the channel!
Thanks! I already did a video on conversions. I have an Open Top and from a distance, they are similar in appearance, but up close there are differences. Loading lever is gone and the barrel is cylindrical. Also the they moved the rear sight from the hammer (notch) to the rear of the barrel. Later on it came out with the larger 1860 Army grip (but mine has the Navy grip).
You are correct I should have said very similar. Also the Richardson conversion still had the loading lever but the Richardson-Mason did not as 51 cap and ball parts were starting to run thin.
Do you have a link to the conversion video I looked for it but havent found it.
Getting ready to watch your Dalton video as that is my home town and some of the historical reenacting me and my group does. Thanks again keep up the good work
My favorite of the cap and ball revolvers! Thanks for the video Santee!
You're welcome.
Sure, like my favorite mortar and pestle 😂 It's GARBAGE! These things were garbage when they were the technology of the day, and they've only become more useless every day afterwards.
Another awesome episode Santee! Always enjoy your gun episodes. Still working on that info for investing in the old west.
Thanks, Robert. We'll get there. I just cashed in some life insurance, so maybe I ain't smart enough to do that episode myself!
Hey Santee Dixie Gun Works has all the Supplies and Repro Guns for these, Lee precision sell's bullet molds for conical and ball just FYI Happy Trails
@@keithmaxwell2169 Cool, thanks!
My first handgun of any kind is a Pietta 1851 Navy .36. I recently had it sent off to be refurbished and able to accept a gated conversion cylinder in .38 Long Colt.
That's a nice "upgrade" to really fine gun.
Our 5 year old nephew is all excited about the new T-Rex that has evidently moved onto the ranch lol
HAHA! Awesome.
I had one and sadly got rid of it.
Slick, Slick, Slick....
What am I gonna do with you??
Excellent Santee. I have a few black powder myself. They are fun to shoot. Just be careful to lube the cylinder. Chain fires are not fun. Cheers!
Dave Rodgers never lubes and has never experienced a chain fire. There is some great info on the misinformation regarding chain fires in his article on Navies (link in the description field).
@@ArizonaGhostriders great information. I haven't fired mine in a long time. Probably the rounds were too small. Thanks!
@@TimKoehn44 You're welcome. We aim to all learn something around here!
The aesthetic beauty of the Colt Navy survived well beyond its time
It does!
oh, dude. it is gun porn
The Colt Navy was truly iconic and very popular in its time. It was so popular that it was still arm of choice even when the equally iconic Colt Army was very popular at the same time.
Yes.
It was produced from 1851 t0 1873 , replaced in production by the SAA. Official sources say that 272,000 were produced.. Thanks for solid history here.
@@brianfuller757 No problem. More Navies produced than the Armies. Kinda interesting.
I’ve been waiting for this one. Thanks Santee and friends! Still wondering if there’s one abandoned somewhere here in the hills of Prescott, AZ
I bet there is in some mine...just waiting to be found.
@@ArizonaGhostriders I know, right?! I always keep my eyes out. We’ve found a few railroad spikes from the 1870s while riding our mountain bikes, but no historic firearms…yet
@@AZHighlandHomestead Maybe you'll find a gold nugget...then it won't matter what gun you find!
@@ArizonaGhostriders 😂 👍
The .36 Navy model is my favorite percussion revolver.
My replicas were Piettas but the Ubertis are best, I think.
Colt Signature Series reproductions can be found on GunBroker and GunAuction, occasionally.
I have some dug, .36 caliber bullets from the battlefields around Atlanta.
Gen. Lee carried a Colt Navy, it was very popular. With a conical bullet it is about like a modern .380 in power.
Some say Pietta's are best. They both have their issues, but you can work on them and get them to fine shape.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Piettas are fine. They shoot good. Avoid "Magnum" percussion No. 11 caps, and check frequently for squashed, spent caps blocking the hammer fall over the back strap. Modern caps are hotter than 1860s ones. 👍
The very best account of the Navy Colt I've seen in book or video. Well done! I really like your new intro too.
Much appreciated!
Well hey Santee, thanks for another loaded episode. Thanks to Dustin for making a cameo. Great show pal
Our pleasure!
" in that a beauty " oh yeah! And in a slim Jim holster! Nothing could be better! Have fantastic weekend.
Much appreciated!
⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
🤠 👍 👍
Five-Star, Two Gunfighter-Thumbs-up on this episode Santee.
Thanks, amigo!
I’ve got a Navy I built from a CVA kit in the early 80’s. I ordered it from JC Penny or Sears catalog when I was 12 or 13 I can’t remember. I built several black powder kits in the 80’s including a Hawken rifle, I also have a factory Thompson Center Hawken.
Cool
Great review of a fine pistol. And as a Texan, I am obligated to brag, I mean relate history. The Naval Battle of Campeche pitted the navies of the Republic of Texas and the Republic of Yucatán against the Mexican Navy.
The Texan sailing ships sloop-of-war Austin and the brig-of-war Wharton defeated the Mexican navy's steam ships, Guadalupe, Regenerator and Montezuma.
It is said to be the only naval battle in history where sailing ships overcame steam-powered ships in combat. Colt engraved a scene of the battle on the cylinders of the 1851 and 1861 Colt Navy Revolvers and the Colt 1860 Army Revolver.
AND brag you should!!! BTW, have you ever read "Chile Con Carne" written in 1857 about the battle of Monterey? Really pretty good.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Haven't read that yet, but I will. I just downloaded it in PDF. So, thanks.
I loved my 1851 Navy. Only issue I ever had with it was the Cleaning. Cleaning after hand loading each chamber was easy, using paper cartridges was when things got a bit tough. Don't know if it is the paper my friend used to roll them (recycled coffee filter paper, the brown kind) or how he rolled them. After shooting 12 of em, I go home to clean it and without thinking, dunk the cylinder in a pot of hot water. What I didn't realize was there was a clump of paped in the bottom of each chamber that soaked up water and didn't come out with cleaning. Cleaned it, oiled it, and put it up in the safe. Come back to it the next week and the nippes are coated in rust
You might think about nitrating the paper. Eras Gone Bullet Molds has a video out on how to do it.
I’ve got the Navy Colt my great great grandfather carried in the civil war. I’ve got the bullet mould and holster he used too. His initials, the same as my dad’s, are scratched into the butt strap.
That's amazing family history right there. Cherish it!
Cool!😎
Nice production, judging from the regularity of sold out guns at the popular merchants they appear to becoming more popular, I would like to see more content on these as I have many. Thanks for all the effort.
You're very welcome.
you guys should do a video on holster decorations in the movies and in the old west!
Pretty sure I did. I'll do more in the future.
Glad to see you guys doing a collaboration video. It wasn't long after subbing to Dustin's channel that I got my first black powder pistol. It would be great to see you doing some shooting Santee, especially BP. Great video, stay safe.
Glad to hear it.
great collaborative video pards! *LIKED* the video and I'll be sure to watch for you "on down the trail" --LT
Cool!
Awesome video Santee!! I love BP firearms, they're such a blast to shoot...no pun intended. Never got around to getting one yet though, mainly for price reasons and when I went to look they didn't have the model that I was looking for. One day I'll get it. See you on down the trail!!!
Much appreciated!
Great episode. Dustin's paper cartridge makers are awesome, work great, and easy to use to make uniform size rounds with. I love my Pietta reproduction Colt Navy .36 Caliber 1851 Revolver. I also have a .44 fantasy version 1851. Both are good shooters and very accurate. My first real love of guns are my cap and ball percussion and flint locks. Hey! Where was Rex? 🦖 😁
He was with Garret in Kansas (saddlebag shot).
For 40 years I've owned a repro 1860 in 44 caliber. It came with a wood display case and a detachable shoulder stock. It is the most difficult carbine to shoulder when the stock is attached, but its steampunk appearance compensates for any impracticably. The cutest Colt percussion I've ever seen is the 1862 Police in 36 caliber. It's so pretty, I can't bring myself to get it dirty by shooting it.
LOL!! I get that
@@ArizonaGhostriders Here's a free tip I learned the hard way after I bought my first cap and ball pistol. Don't try cleaning them in the dishwasher unless you enjoy that rusted patina look.
@@Paladin1873 Ahhhh, good tip. Thanks. LOL!!
I have a second generation colt navy, love it. Once you hold one, you'll see why they are so popular with the gun slingers of old. perfect balance, it was made to be held with one hand. mine has custom walnut grips and it fits my hand perfectly.
They tend to just feel great in the hand. Glad you have one!
Have a brace of em Piettas. Been watching everything C&B on YT for years, and you have offer the best graphics out there!
Awww, thanks!
Just bought my first cap and ball revolver, and i love it. Replica of a griswold and gunnison.
Nice! Have fun
I shall sir 🫡
Cap and ball revolvers are a blast to shoot. With Practice You can Load it in just over a minute. Carry a small tube of oil to put on the cylinder pin when it gets gummy. I use to hunt rattle snakes with mine when I was a young buck
You had a lot of hatbands!
The '51 navy is the most beautiful handgun ever made imho
It definitely is darned gorgeous!
Very cool! I have a couple Remington cap and ball revolvers, I like the sights and the solid frame better than the open top colts
Graet guns
I am more thankful than I can put to words that Italy produces Old West Firearms, I hope they still are when I get a chance to own my own some day
Hope so, too!
I have a pair of reproduction navy revolvers that I sometimes use for sass competition. I originally bought them to use with cap n ball but cannot find percussion caps anywhere so I bought Kirst Kartridge conversions for them and shoot low power 38 special loads out of them. They are my favorite because of the feel and they are very accurate even though the .358 bullets in the 38 special are supposed to be a little small, I’ve not had a problem. The kirst conversion kits can be a little finicky sometimes but I still love to shoot them. I understand the popularity. I wish I could just find some no11 caps.
Very cool guns!
Good video as always, Santee. Now do a video on the 1858 Remington. Most people think of the army model and don't realize, or know, that it came in both .44 and .36. The navy version is the one I plan on getting, if I can ever find one.
For those that may not know, a .44 caliber cap & ball revolver was commonly referred to as an army and the .36 as a navy, whether or not they were used by either branch of service.
Did one on Remmies!
@@ArizonaGhostriders How long ago? I don't remember it.
@@ArizonaGhostriders D'OH! I just found it. I had even commented on it about how Remington did their own factory conversions to centerfire cartridges!
I have an original Remington Beal's Navy, which was the model before the New Model, which is what people refer to as the "1858"
@@RichWhiteUM I might do another on specific ones if they pertain to a certain person out West.
Good point about them sticking around even after cartridges were invented. Way easier to find and even make ammo. I just learned last year how they started to convert them to cartridges (maybe you did a video on it?). I found that pretty fascinating. Anyway, congrats on your new gun. She’s a beauty,
Thank you! Yes, converting to cartridge was definitely done...but might as well just stick with percussion if you live in a rural place.
Another great Saturday episode thank you so much! 🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠
You're welcome.
I used to have me a couple of Uberti 1851 navy .36 caliber revolvers and with 15 grains of Goex 3f and a .375 cast lead round ball and a Cabela’s lubed felt wad between powder and ball and a Remington number 11 cap I could hit 6 shots fired in a session within a 4 inch center mass group from 15 yards away with both of them. They are only putting out maybe 120 foot pounds of energy but with correct shot placement they can be deadly especially beefing up the powder charge to 20 grains
Yup!! That's cool
Thanks again , Santee and Co .
Our pleasure!
Hey Santee! I guess we can conclude that the famous Colt Navy Six revolver was the gun which tamed the Wild West? By the way, do you happen to know the make of the gun which Steve McQueen carried in the western series, "Wanted Dead Or Alive"? I am not familiar with guns but it looks like a sawed off shotgun or may be a long barreled pistol like the Colt Navy Six. Thanks for another video showcasing America's great western heritage! I always look forward to Saturday mornings watching your channel. Have a great weekend!
Isn't that a lever action "mare's leg"?
@@markbranham6365 Thanks, Mark!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Thanks, Santee!
Thanks for another great video Santee 👍🇦🇺
You're welcome.
After a year of shooting an 1851 reproduction in .36, I tend to take it shooting more often than the .44, 9 mm, or .357. It’s a wonderfully ergonomic pistol with just enough power to be effective.
Great to know you still like shooting it.
Your firearms videos are always interesting & I have a couple observations; They must have been pretty good or lucky to see through all that smoke & they musta had big pockets for the "pocket models".
HA! yes. Well, think of a pocket on a suit coat. Pretty roomy. Sack coats had those pockets.
Who thinks they went about _hiding_ their pocket guns in that pocket? They could just use pocket as a makeshift holster.
You wouldn't want to lose precious seconds trying to find the pistol's grip within your pocket, when you can just have the grip protruding out from the top.
I have the same pistol that I've used when I was doing a cavalry impression of the Civil War. I love the weight of it and feels that I have something in my hand.
It's a great pistol
@@ArizonaGhostriders I got mine from Regimental Quartermaster in Gettysburg, PA.
@@michaelklein8974 Ooo!
Great Video Santee! Always learning something new.
Glad to hear it!
Excellent video Santee, keep up the good work.
Thank you!
Hey Santee, can you do another video on miners and more in depth of the tools they used or their housing?
Certainly
Ooohhh such a sweet piece of bang right there!!! I have an Italian repro of the brass frame Confederate clone and it is a sweetheart. I like loading blanks on the 4th of July with slower rifle powder... It sure gets messy but that long flash and wagon sized cloud of smoke is so worth it!!! Keep it up!
Hey that's a great idea!! THANKS!!!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Thank you!
@@ArizonaGhostriders I forgot to mention that for the blank charge I up the load a bit because there is no bullet.... I actually use a compressed charge and felt wadding with lots of Bore Butter to prevent chain firing. I also use Bore Butter for lubricant and that seems to work better than other lubes and keeps all of my BP guns cleaner than normal. Hope this helps!!
@@nagjrcjasonbower Thank you! It does.
This is also my go to revolver in Red Dead Online.
Whether in the game or in real life, it just FEELS right.
Great balance, action and accuracy.
I just bought a Pietta version of this pistol, and i'm looking forward to trying it out soon!
Yeah, mine is a Pietta, too.
Another great video Santee! The 11 Bang Bang crew are great.
They are
Nice job Santee! Can’t wait to see you makin smoke!
Me too
Thank you very much for the shout out!!
You're very welcome! Got some of that info from your channel, boss!
Another excellent video Santee!! I also wondered how many men's eyes were damaged when the gunsmoke blew into thier eyes, and what the kickback was like when it was fired.
I have never had any eye damage from shooting it, just clouds of smoke!
WESTERN TV SHOWS ...was a great classroom for me as a kid...
I concur!
As an Aussie i wasn't expecting you to mention Ned Kelly!. Navy Sixes are really one of the most good looking revolvers of their time to be honest.
I've been asked by your fellow countrymen to do a video on Ned for awhile. I figure this is a good mention until I can do that vid.
@@ArizonaGhostriders I reckon you should do a video on Ned, it's quite the interesting story. Quick word of advice so you don't end up like Ned please do check the correct pronunciations of Australian words, it's dumb i know but we do sort of get annoyed at it haha.
Another great video Santee!!! That is an awsome gun!!!
Thank you!
@@ArizonaGhostriders no problem dude!!!
Beautiful guns in this episode. I own an 1858 Remington New Army in .44 cal from Italy, wonderful gun. But it’s pretty big as well.
Yep
I have a Leech & Rigdon 36 cal. Bought from Dixi Gunshop many years ago. Fun to shoot. Good video!
Thanks!
good one Santee, the Navy is my fave, have a pair of 4inchers, looking for a Pocket model 36 to go with them..
Nice!
I've been looking for a London version of the Navy for 2 years. Unobtainium. You got a good one.
I did!
Got a reproduction one too. We enjoy the connection to the past with it. Great topic sir. Keep them rolling out 🤠👍
Thank you!
Great video, thanks for educating me! I stumbled upon the Navy Colt in Red Dead Online and didn't know it uses paper instead of cartridges. I wish Red Dead would point some of those interesting facts out a bit more. Not necessary for the gameplay, but some additional depth to the (already pretty deep) game.
Very cool!
I have a pair of .36 cal 51 Navies and a .44 cal 58 Remington NMA ( all Pietta ) that are a literal blast to shoot. Many hundreds of rounds fired though them and it's still a tough call which ones I prefer. I shoot mostly conicals cast from Eras Gone molds. I'm almost sorry to say they've recently taken a back seat to my flintlocks...
Tha's awesome and they make great stuff at Era's...
Great video Santee Have a great week
Same to you
Yes! Great vid, Santee. Welcome to the world of real smoke wagons... since there's none of that new-fangled smokeless powder. Have fun shooting yer targets... if you can see them after 2 or 3 shots! 😉😁
Fun fact, while I wouldn't suggest an 1851 as a primary EDC, they can be. I often carry mine (left hip, "cavalry" (butt forward) draw) alongside my M1911, or Remington "1858" (.45 Colt conversion), knowing that my Six is very reliable, especially as a back-up. It was a good choice for defense (and, um, offense... simmer down Bill) back then, for a reason. Like you mentioned, James Butler Hickok had some Sixes, and it was allegedly an 1851 that he shot Davis Tutt with... at 75 yards!
Oh, black powder and I go back a long way. We appreciate each other.
Nice vid Santee, good score on the Colt Navy
Thank you!
Congrats Santee on your new London model revolver. It would be fun to see you become another Wild Bill with that hogs leg. I bet you could take the cohones of a mosquito at 1,000 paces with both eyes closed and your hands tied behind your back with that thing. After all it fires ball ammunition so why not? Thanks for another great video Santee! U da man
HAHAHAHAA!!
My second favorite Colt cap and ball revolver, right behind it's updated brother the 1861 Navy.
A fun fact, Colt used the 1851 Navy grip frame on the 1873 Single Action Army, the grips are identical and interchangeable.
I can testify to that, as I swapped the grips between an Uberti Navy and a Cattleman with no problem. Now my Navy has a blued steel grip and the 1873 has a brass grip.
I like the grips on this one. Typically, they put on too much polyeurothane for my tastes.
@@ArizonaGhostriders True, I usually like to replace them with bone or horn grips, especially cow or ram.
@@thitsugaya1224 Nice!
My favorite Old West gun 2nd only to the SAA thanks Santee!
You're welcome.