I went to business school
Вставка
- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- FIELD REPORT FROM CORPORATE AMERICA’S BREEDING GROUND.
Featuring interviews with students at the University of Virginia Darden School of Business; Adam Grant, organizational psychologist and professor at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School; Ed Freeman, philosopher and professor at Darden; Jeff Pfeffer, professor at Stanford’s Graduate School of Business; and Scott Galloway, podcast host and professor at the NYU Stern School of Business.
Follow Adam: / adammgrant
Follow Ed: / re_freeman
Follow Jeff: / jeffreypfeffer
Follow Scott: / profgalloway
Video by Dan Toomey and Henry Stockwell
--
GOOD WORK ON ALL PLATFORMS: @goodworkmb
DAN ON IG: / dhtoomey
SIGN UP FOR MORNING BREW HERE: www.morningbrew.com/daily/sub...
--
00:00-02:03: Intro
02:03-06:15: Interviewing students
06:15-12:14: Interviewing professors
12:14-12:48: Conclusion
12:48-13:31: Toga party
We have now fully investigated schools of business. What should we cover next? Or what schools should we visit? Only coming if toga parties.
Investigate stem and tech schools and figure out why so many of them have god complexes
How about schools of technology
How about the crossover of corporations and colleges? Wichita State must have at least ten new buildings on campus built and run by outside corporations, where students work for free...I mean intern. 🤨
You def have to fuck up some commas in Insurance and healthcare!
I feel like a major fine art school would be cool on the grounds that you don't overdo the Hitler jokes.
The two professors are a great comparison. The bald guy is drowning in the Kool Aid, and the beard guy is based as hell
What does drowning in the Kool aid mean?
@@johannes-7710 he was lost in the sauce
@@johannes-7710 drinking from the mountain of knowledge, based is a communist libtard thing or people that hate money and want to give money to africa for nothing
@@johannes-7710 Presumably a reference to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_the_Kool-Aid . Someone who has totally bought into a cult
drowning in kool-aid or has better media training? marketing is also a skill.
glad to see society is getting more consultants, we really need more people to consult with
consultants need consultants
The thing I find interesting with the obsession of elite non-STEM, non-creative young people wanting to go into consulting or finance as opposed to literally any other part of the "business" world is that... this is obviously unsustainable. Consulting and finance only exists if there are clients (i.e. businesses/entrepreneurs that directly do productive and valuable things). People are scared little souls playing their status games, no one wants to take a risk. Not even the most privledged people in society. This is probably less true for immigrants, so once again WE NEED IMMIGRATION.
@@RGatGala but... but... murr freedom! those immigrants are trynna take away murr freedom!!!! #keepfreedominmurica #keeplatinamericansawayfromstroads
@@RGatGala I think you're not seeing the bigger picture here. We obviously just need to cut spending and tempt employees with free burgers (1 pr employee). Infinite profit.
Hey, free burgers. I'm in. @@Bidmartinlo
The ethics professor deserves an entire humor department to himself
I thought the same. Everything he says seems well thought out and reasonable, 100% would want him as a teacher.
Love profs like him.
He's also jewish. Very ethics indeed.
when he said oxymorons like "funny UA-cam channel" I actually laughed out loud
@@elliotw.888 no, that wasn’t you. That was the videographer.
Don't worry Dan, your apartment looks great. Just get a bookshelf with a bunch of books behind you and all of a sudden you become an expert on talking about overpriced business degrees.
Don't forget the low key sex toy
The no context comment on Dan’s apartment was weird as all fucking hell. What was that about??
@@TheBomber15 It's called a 'joke', and they're really not particularly unusual
@@Dodzilla96 Making unalive jokes to a stranger during an interview is pretty unusual...
@silasc7996 It's not unusual in a comedy interview like this to make suicide jokes, I thought it was funny
It’s comforting to know the people ruining the economy are miserable
cry about it
@@etrestre9403your comment doesn't make sense in this context
@@tomlxyz he's crying about people "ruining the economy" because he's simply envious of said people for being richer and more successful.
Are they actually miserable? Of course not! If you think they're miserable, you've never talked to one in your entire life.
Classic leftie thinking
it hardens the ethically compromised heart
@@etrestre9403Hmm 🤔
MBA Student - " I will do anything other than consulting"
Dan - "Finally some diversity"
i bet that dog wanted to do consulting too
The African Delegation thought that was funny as shit 😂
wow, mr statingwhathasalreadybeensaidinthevideoo
HIS NAME IS MARK.
@@geralt9036wow, mr ihaveneverencounteredquotesbefore
"Serial Ted-Talker" is a sly, scathing and underhanded insult and I am here for it
I would say it's a red flag but considering how many students think that a main skill or bulshitting he's really a master, we just have to see if they can teach students to be as good as him.
Galloway’s comment about the corporations being the customers and the students the product was really enlightening.
Aaaand that's why I dropped out of cal poly
Except business schools get money from the students
@@mootytootyfrooty You dropped out of a STEM school because business degrees are useless?
@@KoolMonkE no it's just the same deal of your goal there is to go work for lockheed and so on and thats what your senior project is. Full nose to the grindstone with no real room to breathe so you end up slaving away but not complaining cuz muh paycheck so big. I have found better careers in STEM outside
That stood out to me too. I never thought of it that way.
Dan Toomey
4 time MBA All Star
2 time MBA Finals Week MVP
2 time MBA Thesis Defensive Player of the Year
Don't forget #1 MBA Draft Pick
2 time MBA Rookie of the Year.
I'm trying to not wake up my roommate and I just died at this
"MBA Finals Week" u gotta be stopped 😂
@@19MAD95😂😂 this is gold
@@19MAD95How tf can you get 2 MBA Rookie of the Year's?
The people demand the full chat with Ed Freeman
Yes!! And longer episodes in general
The internet needs more Ed Freeman
To the top
100%
We need more Ed Freeman "knick knack fiend"
ethics professor is the type of business professor we need more of
He was the only genuine and wholesome character there in the entire college
Bro also flamed his UA-cam channel 😭
Yes right, because other nations give a fuck on ethics. We can't compete if we care, thats the money game.
Its a position that is ther purley to slab some "sustainability" branding on your campus. The students dont care and the companies dont care and most consumers dont care
@@BurakvsPegasusThen I rather die than to live in a world like that.
Ed Freeman was one of my fave professors at Darden. Can confirm this is how hilarious he is in real life 😂😂
Sooooooo....are you in consulting?
@@james_chatman I can consult you with the answer
Aaaaaand are you married?
Happy belated Hanukah
@@james_chatman haha no I’m not! I opted for the world of finance and investing😂
All these students should have to read Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber prior to graduating. Just so that they don't think they are crazy when they realize they are getting paid so much to do basically nothing.
LOL, that book is my BIBLE.
Made me take everything so much less seriously
That book changed my lifeeeee
I found that book after a dive into a Reddit comment section. Thats the heavy price I paid for knowledge.
I'm actually not joking,one of my friends works at one of the MBB...he one day showed me what he worked on and it was power point presentations and excel sheets that any high schooler could make + not to mention the over 20 meetings everyday which amount to nothing.
He literally does nothing,seriously nothing.Heck any programmer could write a script to automate 80% of his job but my god he is paid six figures without doing any serious work.
@@-BarathKumarS I'm sure any highschooler or script can handle his job of synthesizing data from experts to solve company-specific problems. Those doesn't take any brain power & highly automatable. That's why these companies hire high schoolers all the time haha.
Something has to be done to stop the influence Coldplay are having on the future management consultants of America!
My favorite source for rap news.
🧐 why are you watching YT, Professor?
Yes. I know when we started we had high hopes, now our back’s are on the line and ours back’s are on the ropes
We are always under the high end consulting all the time.
This is obviously a very biased opinion since your channel is dedicated to rap music.
That ethics professor seems like the GOAT. Digging at the YT channel was so brilliant off the cuff
Crypto exchange partners...
He is a jew…. Cant be trusted
The apartment joke was a deeply irresponsible and hilarious thing to say. The cut back to Dan was so funny 😂😂😂
Sounded like the guy learned how to relate to people from a book by a failed pickup artist.
If there's anything this world needs, it's more people who are good at pretending they know what they're talking about.
I was kind of shocked how open they were about that, actually.
These types of people are sometimes very honest. They want to do something and can acknowledge that it's a ridiculous system. I don't even blame them tbh. They are just playing the game
They don't have a stake to lie yet, once they're in a company that will change lol as it'll be tied to their salary.
@@tagguh1 This is it. I went to one of these schools and everyone knows it's a load of crap. If you're a public facing figure like a CEO though you'll never admit the truth.
If they were actually good at pretending they know what they’re talking about they wouldn’t need an mba lol
They know it's all bullshit, give them a couple years w/ a cushy salary and some media training and they'll never admit it again on camera.
If I've learned anything from my MBA friends (Harvard, Ross, Stanford, etc) it's that they aren't your friends unless you make them money.
Imagine needing school to teach you how to be a psychopath😂
@@stratomaster891Not an ordinary psychopath, but a money grubbing one!
My uncles Ivy League wife & kids walked off with all of the money from my family’s land here recently. Never met them before a year ago and they never even bothered to ask how I made it to 30 without a dad, or a college degree. Wealthy people are sick.
Soooo... what you're saying is that you're good at making money for your friends. I would love for you to be my friend. First drink is on me! :)
Where Anarchists come from.
Welcome to the meaning void that fills our society...."I want a job that pays as much as possible while contributing as little as possible with no responsibility". No midlife crisis emergencies here.
You prob don't get the grind of what consultants do to get that cushy salary. I'm not a consultant, but it sucks. I made it to final round interviews with McKinsey and BCG. They work 60 to 65 hour weeks and are traveling often thousand mile flights every single week living 4 days a week in a hotel. So they spend 200 out of 365 days a year in a hotel. That 60 to 65 hours is just work time if you add on travel or time away from home it's much more. Post MBA you go in as an associate which is 2nd level up from bottom, analyst. Most post MBA do not get promoted from associate either because they can't stand that much work and travel or they aren't considered good enough for promotion. There's limited spots at VP+ and more associates than roles open there.
At the end of the day, they may not actually make a difference or contribute anything, but their job still sucks ass with the hours spent on work and out of home.
@@mikeguidry2577The point of consulting is not to work at a consulting agency. It's to become an associate then get hired as an exec at a major company.
Man I really dislike corpos
@mikeguidry2577 so all the downsides, included midlife crisis but it probably ends with suicide instead of cringe?
@@mikeguidry2577the travel is increasingly a non-factor thanks to remote work. From 2019-23, BCG cut business flights by 40%, McKinsey cut by 48%, PWC by 76% and Deloitte by 81%. Even Bain cut by 26%. Long hours still suck, but it is simply not the grind it used to be
That’s hotel suicide joke was unreal
the occasional Hiroshi
lol that comment was wild
How can we make kindergarden for rich adult-children sounds fancy, intellectual, and later justify the well-paid jobs their friends and family will help them get?
America said MBA.
Roasted. Well-said.
True, but Europe is seemingly even worse in terms of credentialism. Everyone has 5 advanced degrees over there.
@@RGatGala From a french - it's true. I have a master's with a gap year, 3 years of prof. xp (interships etc) before even entering the job market and it's the norm
Nothing wrong with it, especially when you don't have to go into debt for it. Plus, education can be wonderful from just a life experience point of view. But in the labor market there are often too many delusions about credentials (disregarding medicine, hardcore science stuff, engineering, etc.)@@louisdbt9096
The Coldplay guy killed me.
Ok but is no one else going to question that one guy was a psychologist, magician, business professor and author. How did that happen!
He went to business school
Don't know if it's related, but the guy's got the look of an aspiring cult leader....
@@samuelglover7685 I agree something seems really off about the guy😂
@@lr7815 and then specialized in magician consulting 🙂
That’s a single career switch and 2 hobbies. Believe in yourself.
I did my undergrad in mechanical engineering. I dropped out of business school after one semester and started my own business. Everything they 'teach' is just common sense.
But if you want corprate possition you need this pice of paper just so you can show that you have common sense.
@@Thekrzysiek52 🤣
@@Thekrzysiek52 The hardest part of a top 10 MBA is getting admitted which Darden isn't top 10, it's like 12. I went to MIT Sloan full time MBA. It is mostly common sense stuff. The only thing that wasn't is financial modeling and accounting. I agree that companies shouldn't look at a top 10 MBA student and think he prob learned so much there that he'll be an asset. It should be more like if he was good enough based on undergrad gpa, major, school, and test scores to get into this top 10 MBA then he'll be good enough here.
Nice Pic. It’s 150 anniversary of Caspar David Friedrich. So come over to Greifswald/Germany 😎
Nice Pic. It’s 150 anniversary of Caspar David Friedrich. So come over to Greifswald/Germany 😎
Professors in business schools look like mid-century philosophers while their students look like they'll appear on the front page of a millenial youth magazine
Forbes 30 under 30, pipeline to jail
@@aeoligarlic4024dont forget about the a documentary series produced by Hulu/Netflix/Apple about your fraudent business practices, followed by your subsequent SEC investigation.
when mom and dad weren´t present to raise a child thats loved and accepted the way it is instead leaving a walking body as hollow as swiss cheese. Poor souls, empty gaps filled with dollar bills@@aeoligarlic4024
The marx looking dude has a doctorate in philosophy lol
Bc the proffesors didn’t go into consulting
Ed Freeman out here pulling no punches, goddamn.
"Never give a definitive answer because then you’ll be held accountable for it“. I’m confused. Are these people learning how to run businesses or how to become politicians. Oh right, they aspire to be consultants so kind of the same thing.
What I learned: consultants are liabilities and will only give you vague, unhelpful, and unreliable answers. Time to never hire a consultant
That's why consultants are great. They will give you a presentation on exactly what you pay them for which conveniently is what you already decided to do, but didn't want to take accountability for
If I were running a business, I'd consult an expert in the field, not someone who calls themselves consultant.
@@joshwarrey3728 such a smart businesshero omg
So its a way to make you feel more confident about the decisions you were going to make anyway. Gotcha. Well, not totally useless then @@vanguard6937
@@joshwarrey3728they’re used as scapegoats
You can make a risky decision and blame the fallout on a consulting firm
I love, that you always get at least one interview partner to roast you.
Quote of the Day: “Fun is relative.”
pretty much
Such a consultant answer
As someone with a marketing degree, the statement “Marketeers are dumb” certainly is true. That degree takes NO effort to get. The hardest thing is remembering the countless, useless terms you need to write down for your exams.
Also, if you do not like abbreviations, do NOT get into marketing. Apparently marketeers love shortening things
It’s because less is more!
Marketing is just one of those skills you get on the experience, not from sitting down listening to lectures all day long
coming from a regretted marketing grad😂😭🫡
So true 😂 I always end searching for an acronym meaning after talk with a marketer
@@deepam5246 It’s because marketeers are soulless people who will do anything to give themselves a sort of prestige because they lack any commonly given respect in the professional business world. Give your lingo loads of abbreviations is one way to sound really cool. Do you know Howard abbreviations, matrixes and concepts like them I had to learn that turned out to be utterly useless in the real world? Marketing is a very sad business, if you could even call it that
@@urip_zukoharjo Couldn’t agree more but I wouldn’t call it a skill necessarily. I think anybody can learn marketing and be good at it. It’s not a skill and, if it would be, not a hard one to master
"Went to class, it started at 10, I was late as usual - 10:10... 10 minutes late." love this
Here’s how you know your company has hired a consultant. They start doing really dumb shit and laying off employees they actually need. If these people knew how to run a business then they would run a business but they don’t know shit but how to trick rich people into listening to them.
and “how to give answers even if you don’t know what the answer is but also to convince them to listen to you”
I mean maybe that wanted to lay off employees etc, but hired a consultant firm to blame them for falling off
So did Elon somehow venture into consulting for while when he acquired Twitter? Doing really dumb shit, laying off employees they actually needed, and the value of the company plummeting 60% of its value quite rapidly. Checks all the boxes.
@@zkcrisyeeproblem is he already was a Twitter consultant in his mind, so when he became boss, he implemented all his ‘really good cost saving money making ideas’ 🤮
@@anastasiaekimova5101 This is more common.
“Fuck up some commas on the travel budget” was a god tier line
Classical, it had me in stitches, had to pause the video
As a former consultant with an mba who pivoted into product roles in tech:
1) Consulting is just glorified outsourcing
2) The reasons to do an Mba are: prestige, knowledge and network.
2.1) You can get the prestige by starting your own business or side business
2.2) You can get the knowledge on the internet
2.3) You can get the network in consulting
3) to pivot careers you don't need an mba
4) Full time MBA are kind of holidays, executive ones are more valued with better network
5) Tech pays better than consulting
6) You don't need an MBA to own a business, which remains the most profitable option
This is unironically the best youtube channel I've stumbled across in years.
Bravo sir.
I can't believe you interviewed karl marx himself
This is a local exercise shop where business students go to learn how to run from the SEC 😂😂😂😂😂
Top 5 all time lines
agreed LOL
All your content since “What does a consultant do?” has been 10/10. Always fun to watch. Keep up the good work. 😉
Ed Freeman is hilarious! He looked like a ton of fun to interview.
I will forever use the phrase corporate larvae thanks to you.
Bro is dressed like a 1950s detective
It’s very Columbocore
You must be new here.
Same comment on all of the videos on this channel.
Also this. All videos.
Cool drip ngl
"Fun is relative" I like her
I used to be a consultant with one of the big 4 and imo there are two types of consultant - those who roll up their sleeves and get shut done and those who manage. The latter are the useless ones, but they are also the more likely to get promoted.
That game in your profile looks nice :DD
Do one on Computer Science and Tech majors. Too many people and not enough jobs. The amount of knowledge and skills you need for an entry level job keeps increasing because of all those online best major rank listings. It’s getting suppressed by the news and tech companies because the more CS majors there are, the less they have to pay. And we just got a few thousand layoffs announced just this past week for software engineers/devs
I wanna know why I see the BLS outlook for Software Development careers growing and why these numbers are wrong
@@bigmouthprick5852Demand changes, supply changes. Right now, demand is lower and supply is higher than ever.
Demand - IRS tax laws and high interest rates have made hiring less desirable.
Supply - A generation of zoomers were told by influencers that you can get a six figure job while doing minimal work after graduation. So now you have a massive supply of graduates. Many of whom are not smart, didn’t go to prestigious schools, and are pretty much screwed and have to get a job not related to their field of study.
Yeah but that is true of all college jobs. At least every engineering field. I graduated in 2007 and salaries are basically the same today as they were then. There are just so many people out there with these degrees now.
@@bigmouthprick5852 true for engineering it’s hard. But software is even worse. I have friends who haven’t found decent paying jobs for over a year. Companies are outsourcing work to other countries for low wages.
This this this!!! And like a whole series dedicated to the absolutely stupid shit coming out of Silicon Valley. Like every tech bro and their roommate building something that essentially is really expensive piece of nothing.
This is definitely one of the best channels on this platform. Great content!
God I love the business ethics prof
He's at least self-aware its all a huge scam/garbage fire.
Every single time I watch one of these videos, I just say "What a good video"
Love the work, will not call it content because it does not feel lazy, I truly appreciate the work put into them and can't wait for more
Well, to their credit, the channel is named as "good work" so yeah.
this video was really next level, I don't know how but you made this topic kick ass - pls everyone give this channel money so they can continue their epic good work
This is one of your best videos yet, I could have watched another ten minutes of this! Great interviewees this time around, too
As someone who got fired yesterday, I'm planning to do an MBA. This is very helpful and funny.
I hope you pull it through!
Get that piece of paper and make $$$.
@@youMatterItDoesGetBetter I'm gonna fucken print it.
@@saltedcod3533 🤟🏻
Will be harder for you as an Asian Male to get into b school
I had an Accounting professor for 3 different classes who is a version of Ed Freeman. You're gonna learn a hell of a lot more from professors like that than from the rest of them.
9:38 Absolutely losing it at Dan's "and that's a crisis" and Adam Grant's response lmao
I BURST OUT LAUGHING. I'm in my office.
How did he keep a straight face through that I'm dying 😭
You are one of the few creators that I genuinely stop whatever I'm doing to watch!
can't wait until the consultants have their own consultants to consult with about their consulting
Dan Toomey x Scott Galloway is the team-up I didn’t know I needed
+1
A reverse Prof G Podcast where Dan hosts and Scott is the guest would be epic.
Ironically, I’ve just started considering an MBA or doing a specialised masters in my tech field. Sooooo glad I saw this. Thanks Dan, wouldn’t wanna end up in consulting, eh?
I work at a top 3 PWM/IB Firm and got to say, you are on point with so much. Love your work, your humor is on point. Never stop
For those who don't know the acronyms?
@@customjuicesPWM = Private Wealth Management and IB = Investment Banking. Different type of finance jobs.
Private wealth management / investment banking. Basically pandering to rich fucks and making them stupid money so that their generational wealth can terrorize us all forever.@@customjuices
Can we get a team of consultants to set up a meeting, to discuss when to set the presentation for the next meeting?
Business School Students: “You got into Business School?”
Dan: “What? Like, it’s hard?”
really depends on the business school tbf. Yea if we're talking University of Virginia, its probably pretty easy. Try getting in LSE or Bocconi however and you'll quickly find its not as easy as you'd think
These videos are brilliant. You truly have one of the best UA-cam channels around
This is possibly my favourite channel, please don't stop ever!
Just wanted to say thanks for the “good work” out there. This is really reminding me of the Daily Show in its Heyday (but with even better Journalism of course)
one of your best vids yet. keep up the GOOD WORK
I'd looooove to see the full interviews with the professors
Great video, thank you
I never comment on videos, but your sense of humor combined with some actual education is wonderful. Thank you for continuing to make these awesome videos! ❤
First video of yours I watched....had to pause MULTIPLE times to just stitch myself together at how well your jokes fit into the script....amazing
Awesome that you got to interview those professors. Definitely need the full interviews! I remember watching Freeman's videos in business school...can't believe he's like this in real life haha
Can’t believe I just stumbled upon this channel. You rock, sir.
This channel has only gotten better with time. Another fantastic video
As a consultant applying to business school, I'm happy you uploaded this!
Listening to this at my accounting job... glad to see I'm not the only person wasting my life
Starting a MAcc in March and feel like the algo is really throwing some heaters at me
This channel is a godsend.
The genius of these videos cannot be overstated. Literally perfect
You are the GOAT of what ever style you tube this is
another instant classic. nice work good work
This is pure gold. Dan can critique MBA programs with a perfect blend of humor, a spot-on balance, and a touch of witty seriousness that gives us a delightful dissonance. It navigates between insightful commentary and a humoristic, serious journalism vibe, striking the perfect chord of wit and wisdom without descending into rudeness or nonsense. 10/10
bot
@@joebob1331 Said the user joebob1331 lol
Chatgpt ass comment
This type of comment should be illegal
Get a load of this AI
This was the best good work so far. Great job, keep it up
You guys are AMAZING. Loved this.
This is the most important channel on UA-cam
These students aren't learning good lessons, but they are learning the right lessons
New fan, and soreading the word. Im glad you exist, and grateful for your effort.
As a fellow person who started taking classes at my university’s business school, to become a consultant, I’m glad to see I’m not alone.
Absolutely love this channel! 😂
Love Dan Toomey. True story, tried to hire him.
We keep trying to fire him but he won't leave.
Oh dang, it's the Sultan himself.
I looooveee your reporting. God. This is A+ journalism.
I say this wholly understanding my comment will be drowned, but suddenly finding and clicking on this video was the best decision I made today. You a are phenomenal UA-camr and this video was both hilarious and concerning, easiest subscribe of the new year
I'm not kidding this has gotta be one of your best episodes 👌
no way bro really found Karl Marx in a business school
Apartment comment was spot on. I really like what you've done with the place.
This instantly won my subscription, fantastic work y'all
That business ethics guy is so funny
This was so entertaining to watch I loved it! Love this type of humour
Good work as always
Outstanding coverage.
Bro your work audiovisually, editing wise, comically and of course: INFORMATIVE, it's top notch, congrats for real a keep it up
I worked at the gym these students go to for the most part. I can confirm they're all exactly the same.
Professor Freeman is an absolute baller at Handball, btw
This is evolution of content guys. This is how you evolve your channel. New categories of content.
Man, this could have been a few hours long!! You got my undivided attention, great work.