It does affect the DOF, as well. The best way to think about it is that the combination of the lens (I'll use the EF 50mm f/1.8 as an example) and the speedbooster creates a single EF-M lens with the same physical aperture as before and a focal length that has been reduced by 0.71x (the technical name for a speedbooster is a focal reducer.) If the aperture is the same size and the focal length is reduced, then the f-number must also be reduced, since: aperture = focal length/f-number. For my example lens, the relationship was aperture = 50/1.8 (thus, "f/1.8"), which means that it has a 27.8mm physical aperture opening. With the speedbooster, the left-hand side is the same, but the right hand side has 0.71x50 = 35.5 in the numerator. I.e., same aperture = 071*old focal length/new f-number, or put another way 27.8 = 35.5/new f-number. Thus, the new f-number is, in fact, 0.71*1.8 = 1.28. So, the combined unit will behave exactly like a native EF-M 35mm f/1.3 (rounded for marketing purposes) would. I actually have a EF 50mm f/1.4 on the Viltrox SB and an EF-M 32mm f/1.4. Though the former has a slightly longer effective focal length (35mm vs. 32 mm), the difference in FOV is minimal. However, the difference in DOF is very noticeable. The EF 50mm f/1.4 on the speedbooster definitely looks like (and exposes like) an EF-M 35mm f/1 would.
Just wanted to add on about the magnifying effect of speedboosters, yes it does make lenses one stop brighter, but before that I think we need to apply the crop factor to the aperture first, because the aperture changes along with the focal length. Let’s take the EF 50mm f/1.8 as an example, if it’s used on the M50 (APS-C 1.6x crop), not only the focal length becomes 80mm, but at wide open the aperture will effectively become 2,88 (or about 2,8 let’s say). So using the speedbooster will just bring it back down to... Let’s calculate, I remember the Viltrox is at 0.71x So 2.88 x 0.71 = 2.0448 The nifty fifty will be about f/2 wide open So yeah, that’s what I wanted to point out. These speedboosters just help the lenses perform closer to what they would be on a full frame camera, which is always great, but it’s no miracle. I’m still with my kit lens and would probably get the EF-M 22mm f/2 first before going for the speedbooster. Anyways, love the video! Especially the part where you talked about the battery drain, literally you’re the first one who mentioned it and I feel that’s a very important thing! Keep up the good work! 💪🏻
Why can't videos just be this simple and address the basics and then build from there ... calmly delivered and not loads of clutter and effects to distract which is really annoying on instructional vids ... great vid
Hello...I am enjoying my M50 and I have the Viltrox Booster...it works very well with my Nifty Fifty but no other of my lens work. I need another adapter for my M50...could you recommend one...perhaps the one you use and could also recommend the best lens I could but for my M50 for just sitting and chatting in my videos ( on days I don't want to set up the DSLR) thank you so much! Susan Happy to be anew subscriber!
Hi Susan. What other leneses do you have? The 15-45 kit lens is perfect for what you want to do or the 22mm f2 Canon EOS m lens if you want more depth of field. Glad you are enjoying the videos!
I have an m50 and the speed booster by viltrox. I got the speed booster because I had a canon nifty fifty and figured that I might want to buy second hand ef lenses and have the best adapter with bonus features. The question is not if the speed booster is a cool device, but rather if it's worth it.
@@BillEricPhotography i agree. But I think that the speed booster(SB) adapts ef lenses, not efs, right? So we may need the ordinary adapter too, which is fine because it's so bloody cheap,. You can get them for under $50 and the ones made by various companies all do the same job because there is no glass to require quality manufacturing. The first lens I bought was the canon 22mm f/2. I like it a lot but that nifty fifty with the SB is so so cool. It makes the f/1.8 an f/1.2. I wish I had a faster zoom lens than the kit lens, that I could use in lower light than outdoor sunlight for filming my grandchildren playing indoors. Thanks for the quick response. Please keep making videos. Being able to discuss with someone who has knowledge is gold.
I have the m50 with the viltrox speed booster and the standard canon adapter. I am sticking with buying lenses that are EF mount only both in canon or 3rd party not EFs. I just get a lot more bang for the buck in the long term and it essentially gives me 2 lens focal lengths with every lens I buy, which means I need to carry less lenses to get the variety I may need. I bought the new Tamron 70-200 lens & man does it look like a beast on the m50, could not be happier with the results from it so far ;)
I agree with you. It does double the usefulness of each lens. It really depends on your budget because as you know those going to more money. I love my Tamrons! If I ever buy my own Canon Mount 70-200 that's what I will get. You will love it.
Thanks for the idea! Its quite a good revelation to have both the adapter AND the speed booster which basically doubles the type of sense you get for full frame. I've been breaking my head over what to buy next. This is great!
Is that an ef or EFS lens? I think it's an ef-s lens and if that's the case the speed booster won't work with it. You will need to use the regular Canon adapter which will give you about a 16 mm equivalent. That's perfect for vlogging.
Just bought this last week- it's a brilliant piece of kit and works well on my oldish M3- can now use my old leagacy EF lenses with a new lease of life. My fave combo is with the 40mm pancake, which is a touch wider, - love the dark performance. Also have the nifty fifty. I also have an EF to M adaptor with no glass from Meike, for a 1/4 of the Canon price, all electronics fully supported.
Great video and channel. Not sure what was going on with your white balance (if that's what it was) but big thanks about the reported battery draw with the speedbooster on. I have discovered on occasion that the battery was flat or near flat in the morning and just thought at the time that I must have left it on. I never thought about the speedbooster connection. Completely agree about versatility, effectively doubling the lens capability of my largely EF bag. It was a major factor in my decision to buy an M50. And it's worth paying that much more for Digic8 to work with the set-up. Finally, you didn't mention that EF-S lenses largely require 'surgery' if they are to work with the speedbooster, which isn't the case your regular Canon adapter. Cheers
@@BillEricPhotography No worries. I've just popped the battery out ... but must remember to check it before I rush out somewhere and leave it in the morning
Our video work is definitely a work in progress. It was the white balance here. I was shooting in front of a window as the sun was going in and out. I've since learned this is a bad idea!🤣
Please recommend a setup that i should have, im a beginner, i just purchased the the m50 kit and i just got the adapter and the 50mm. I love to take panoramic views and casual family pictures. I dont want to waste money experimenting. Videos are amazing, Thanks!!!
Intrestingly, before Viltrox brought their speed booster out I bought a speed booster several months ago from a Korean seller who had modified a Viltrox EF-M to EF adapter to a speed booster and focal reducer. It works fine but I will check if it drains the battery too, I suspect it will! The best action is remove the battery before you store the camera if you are not going to use it for a few days.
I'm still confused. So I am an aspiring real estate photographer. I have a Canon M50 Mark ll. I bought a EF-M 11-22mm F4.0-5.6 IS STM Lens. Because of the crop factor of 1.6 my 11mm becomes 17.6mm. IF I get a speed booster will I have a larger field of view more accurate to 11mm or 12mm?
hi great video. Cleared many things. i have one question. i got m50 with lens kit 15 -45mm. and i got this speed booster. can i use this speed booster with my lens kit ?
Thanks for the video. The Canon M50 crop factor is 1.6 so a 50mm lens would be "cropped" to 80mm. The Viltrox focal length multiplier is 0.71. So, that 80mm "cropped" lens effectively becomes a 56.8mm lens. (For the math geeks)
Well explained Bill. I use the same setup of both types of adapters on my M50, and they work well (except the power drain issue, before I realised what was happening!). Perfect way of reducing the number of lenses to take when travelling.
Bill, great video. I'm watching this 2 years after you posted it so I'm not sure if things have changed. I got the Viltrox, and when I paired it with the EF 70-200 f4 lens, I actually get an f 2.8 aperture of the much more expensive lens. That was a nice surprise. Likewise, with the Nifty Fifty, it's as you explained. However, the focal length seems to be shrunk when using the Viltrox. For instance, when I import photos taken with the Nifty Fifty into Lightroom, under the histogram, it tells me it was a 35 mm focal length. Same thing with the 70 - 200. I haven't nailed down the math exactly but you get the basic idea. The focal length is like 49 - 160, but don't quote me on that. Lastly, coming to the Viltrox 2 years after you posted this video, I have not found that there is any battery drain if I leave the adapter on overnight, or even for several days. Maybe that's something they've worked out. Thanks for the video. Both the adapters seem to be useful for expanding the versatility of my existing lenses.
@@BillEricPhotography Thanks. I worked out the math on the 70-200. With the Viltrox it becomes a 49-140 lens. I'm looking forward to getting a used Canon adapter and taking advantage of the longer focal lengths with the crop factor added in.
I am still facing battery drain issue with canon 50mm f1.8 lens. With adapter, sometimes it shows as 35mm f1.2 lens in Lightroom and sometimes 50mm f1.8 lens. Is something wrong with my viltrox adapter?
Actually those are for a Nikon camera and can't be used on the M50. I wish it was the case then I could use all of my Nikon lenses. The adapters let you use any Canon lens.
Thank-you for the review. I have a 77d I bought right before the M50 came out and thought about upgrading over the recent holidays. I think I'm going to wait for a few reasons. While I am super pumped for the M50 and Viltrox booster combo, Canon Rumors said that Canon has patented their own speedbooster (potentially more features?) and there may or may not be an update to the M5. The M5 could have a couple more abilities I'm looking for in a camera. So I'm going to see how the year goes and maybe pull the trigger on one of these setups during Christmas season 2019. It's hard not to go ahead and try it out now, but I think the wait will be worth it. Super excited I don't have to cave on a full frame dslr anymore, though $1250 for the 6dmii was quite tempting last month! It's just too big for me. I'm a tiny person who doesn't need massive gear.
If Canon comes out with one also I would definitely wait. From what I understand isn't a speedbooster just for mirrorless cameras? I might have that wrong.
@@BillEricPhotography It's my understanding as well that they are mirrorless only. So yes, my intention would be to use theirs on an M50 or M50/M5 update if a Canon speedbooster ever comes to fruition.
I'm really not sure. I've never heard of that lens. If it's made for the Canon camera and it's an auto-focus lens it should work but I'm really not sure.
Is there any way to use this speed booster on the kit lens 15-45mm or on the other native 22mm f2 in order to eliminate the crop when filming in 4K ?? How to eliminate the 4K crop when filming with a native lenses ?
Unfortunately you can't. The workaround is you could use a speed booster or the regular adapter and use a super wide lens. So if you used a full frame 16 mm lens with the crop factor it would basically be around a 24 mm I think. The speed booster is not for EFM lenses It's for EF lenses.
Mine drains the battery over night too if I do not remove it from the camera. The last Viltrox M2 update was supposed to help, but it still drains the battery. I should add, the adaptor and speed booster are great solutions. Also, when needed, the 4K is more useable using the speed booster with the EF lens (only). There is cropping, but nothing like without it. :) Good video. Thanks!
Yes, they will both support full frame but only the viltrox will give you a full frame field of view. The Canon adapter will let you use your full frame lenses but you will get a cropped image.
Not sure if I’m having a bad day but the adaptor isn’t connecting with my m50. On the booklet it say “compatible with M43 cameras” not sure if I purchased the wrong one. Please help
What lens would be best for the M50 using the speed booster for a wide angle look and portraits while maintaining a full frame focal length? Thank you.
Well a wide angle and portraits really don't go together. I would say since it is basically a full frame equivalent any wide-angle lens will work. But if you don't want to use the speed booster the Canon EOS m11 to 22 is a good choice. Portraits you want to stay with 50 mm or a 50 mm equivalent or above
Hi there, why did you went for the M50 and not the SL2 ? No need for an adapter I’m thinking of picking up the M50 but would like to hear your overall opinion about your decision. Thanks and stay safe
The speed booster is for full frame lenses so if that lens is made for a crop sensor camera you would just use a regular adapter. The speed booster will only work with EF Mount lenses.
Hi Nice video! I learned so many things about my Canon M50 and both adapters, but I have a question: I put my Canon 75/300mm in my Canon M50 with the Viltrox adapter and it don't works, and I don't know why I can't take a photography, and my Cam indicates that F is 0, that problem don't happen with the Canon adapter, it only happens with the Viltrox adapter, could you help me please!
It really depends on what focal length you want to use the lens at. If you want it to be a 50 mm lens then get the speed booster If you want to use it more of a portrait lens use the regular Canon adapter.
Maybe I’m just lucky, but I have used dozens of lenses without ever needing to calibrate them. I test them out extensively when I first get them and have never had a problem.
The Canon 11-22 lens is already an EF-M lens so doesn’t need an adapter to fit on the Canon M cameras. You would not be able to use the Viltrox speed booster with that lens.
@@BillEricPhotography Thanks for the prompt response! I apologize though, I meant to say the 10-18mm f4/5-5.6 EF-S lens, as that lens is praised in real estate circles. My guess it would brighten down to around f2.4 and extend out to around 32mm?
I bought this speed booster 2 weeks ago, there are a couple of issues with this adapter, the most relevant it is that for some reason if you leave the speed booster attached to the camera, the adapter drain the battery even if the camera it is on off mode. The second problem is, that is not compatible with all the EF lens, there is a list of the compatibility lens on the company web site. Than before you buy, keep in mind that this Viltrox speed booster for M50 it is not perfect as I was thinking before I used.
Why didnt they put some optical element inside the camera so the crop factor would be reduced to “nonexistent”? And also why they make new lens mounting so that you have to buy extra adapter for most proffessiinal lenses? 🙃
This is meant to be a entry-level camera. It happens to be a good one. But mirrorless is a small form factor so you have the option of using it with native lenses or all of the older Canon glass. Nice option to have.
I've only ever used the viltrox and the Canon adapter so I really don't know about any other ones. Maybe read some reviews and see what other owners are saying.
IMHO it changes the DOF too due to the fact that you're recomposing with speedbooster on to a closer distance to the subject thus changing % of optics to it, which would affect DOF, wouldn't it? Can you check it with speedbooster on and off for the same composition and framing?
I've did that with two different cameras. My Nikon D750 with a 24-70 and the m50 with the speedbooster and a 24-70. Both at 2.8. there was a difference. The Nikon had a shallower depth of field.
@@BillEricPhotography Sure Nikon would have had a shallower DOF due to the fact that the f/2.8 on Nikon is f/2.8, and on M50 f/2.8 is (according to the calculation) 2.8*1.6*0.71=~f/3.2 FF equiv. For pure testing purposes you should take same body, say M50, and put the same lens on it, with regular adapter and with speed booster, and compare it for the same composition (recomposing, changing the distance to the subject appropriately) - that way you'd know whether the DOF is affected by the speedbooster...
I saw in other videos that the DOF with the speedbooster is closer to the full frame equivalent than it is to the APS-C equivalent so you do get a nicer bokeh.
what happens if you put the kit lens and the viltrox speed booster? does it make the shot wide for vlogging or content creating?? really keen in buying the m 50 mark 2 but dont want to buy more lenses.
@@BillEricPhotography and i have just seen another review about viltrox that after some time it just drop the quality of image i am little worried but i think this should happen in the price it is i hope canon should make speed booster 🤞
Can I just ask you why do you need the speed booster? Do you have some Canon EF lenses? If you don't I think you are better off buying the EOS M mountain lenses instead. They work perfectly with the M50 and produce really nice images.
I own the Canon 17-40mmL, f4, and thought that I should get the speed booster, so I can get the full 17- 40 zoom without the crop. But would the Tokina 11-16 mm lens without the speed booster provide a better, sharper image,than the 17-40 and the viltrox speed booster. I’m assuming that the Tokina would give a better image, but would there be a noticeable difference between them, or would it be a very small difference between the two?
Hey, thanks for watching. I would definitely get the speed booster and use the Canon 17 to 40. I own the Nikon 16 to 35 that I use on my full frame and the tokina is definitely not as sharp as that lens. I have also used Eric's 24-70 with the speed booster on the M50 and it is much sharper then the Tokina also. the tokina is a good lens for landscape photography but it definitely distorts the image. It's a nice sharp lens for crop sensor cameras but it's not at the level of professional Glass.
The question is how much of a loss in terms of image quality one has to accept in return when using a EF lens with the speedboster for photography? I mean in video mode you somehow constanly have some sort motion, either you pan or follow a subjct or you vlog, sharpness and details may be reduced and one still would not notice but for stills any degradation would be noticable. I'm asking because I think about buying a M50 and the speedboster in order to use my EF primes with a smaller and lighter body (coming from a 5D KMIII with BG).
We didn't really put it to the test for video but for photography there was no loss and sharpness. But I can't honestly tell you if you will lose sharpness for video. I don't see why you would.
@@BillEricPhotography I would have thought in case the lens in the speedbooster is not of high quality like it may cause loss of sharpness. Just a thought.
How about the quality of images that we take? i mean the APS-c Sensor + Spedbooster compare to Actual Fullframe sensor assume that we tried with same EF mount lenses and same setting on the camera. Thanks
The quality of the sensor is very good. I don't think it's as good as a full frame camera. Especially when you compare the high ISO performance. but for the difference in price between the two cameras it's definitely good enough!
Very clearly explained. The speed booster was something I hadn't really understood, until this video. One question though, is it possible to use M50+speed booster+ EF-S lenses? I just saw your answer to this question in an earlier comment. Thank you. Wish I had seen this video a few weeks earlier. Wouldn't have sold some of my prime Canon EF glass in my excitement to get the M50 and its native lenses. The EFM-EF adaptor was interesting, but the speed booster makes the EF lenses full frame... that is the most exciting part of mirrorless on a budget and small form-factor. Well, I have kept at least a couple of my favorite primes.
I have a Canon m50 with the kit lens. If I want to add a lens for portraits should I get a EFS lens and purchase the adapter or just a lens that's made for the M50?
If you want to shoot portraits I would definitely look into the Sigma 56mm. I did a review of it a few weeks ago. Perfect Glen for portraits and you don't need an adapter.
I’m leaning towards the M50 Mark ii because of the clean HDMI out on it . I am also getting the speed booster and the adapter . Besides the Nifty 50, what full frame glass would give me the best range of versatility without having to buy a lot of glass for multiple shooting situations? I want to take a wide range of stills and action shots as well as record video .
I wish I would’ve thought about the 11-16 before I bought an ef 17-40. Doesn’t work that well with the speed booster. I get a ton of vignetting when it’s zoomed all the way out...especially with an nd filter on.
Unfortunately there is quite a bit of trial and error with lenses. I am actually selling my 11-16 and replacing it with the m mount 11-22. It's smaller and after using it it's actually sharper! I am learning that the native mount lenses are are perfect for this camera.
Thanks for that last tip about the battery drain. You have cleared up a mystery that I have been pondering on as I too have experienced this a couple of times but did not couple the situation to the adapter. 🙏🏾
Great video. If you film in 4K with a Viltrox speedbooster on the M50, does the Viltrox reduce the crop in 4K very much? Or is the Viltrox better at widening 1080p footage? As far as I know there is no crop on 1080p. I want to get the M50, but your video doesn't say how the much the Viltrox affects the 4K crop. If the crop is 2.56 for 4K, what is the new 4K crop using the Viltrox? If the Viltrox improves the 4K crop, I might consider this camera. Also does the small battery outweigh buying this camera in any way?
Thanks! The Viltrox will almost completely restore the original focal length/crop factor, so the 2.56 crop factor will still be very close to 2.56. And no, the battery of the M50 should not deter you from this camera. I would recommend getting a second battery anyway.
Hi,you have mentioned about the battery that will be dead after a day when you have the adapter and the lens on the body of the camera.What if you put out the battery of the camera after a day?it will be fine or?
you can either take off the viltrox adapter and the battery will be fine or you can leave the adapter and lens on and just pull the battery. Either way saves the battery from being drained
@@BillEricPhotography here's the link,ua-cam.com/video/mR1jjuqpkVM/v-deo.html he have the same problem from that vitrox speed booster complain about it, vitrox reach out to him.. Hope you get better performance from your device later on..
Thanks for the video, I’ve heard you talk about the speed booster in other videos but was always wondering what the difference between my canon adapter and this was. Now I know. LOL! Keep up with the good videos guys.
With the Viltrox, will I be able to adapt a film camera lens to get the full frame of the lens? I use an adapter for my film lens on my camera now and the view is cropped. Will this solve the crop problem?
Disney Image Makers Sorry I meant for a full manual lens. Like a vintage lens? Of course I won’t be able to adapt it right to the voltrox but with using an Eosm adapter will this work?
You definitely want something in the “normal” focal length like 50mm. There is a Sigma 56mm 1.4 that is very nice. For the webcam, something wide like the Canon 22mm f2.
@@BillEricPhotography the price of Docooler viltrox speed booster is 13k... And the viltrox speed booster piece is 28k.. I think, something is differences between these products.
Sorry just to confirm ! A crop sensor lens will work normally on the booster and just give a normal crop sensor image and a full frame lens will give a full frame image roughly ? Thank you for the reply, very helpful vid dude.
The speed booster is actually for EF lenses. The regular Canon adapter you can use both EF and EF-S lenses on but it's still crops the image. The speed booster will give you the native focal length of the lens when you use it.
The f1.8 doesn't become an f1.2 using the speedbooster. The maximum aperture is affected by crop factor just as the focal length is. So, with the Canon adapter and 1.6 crop factor, f1.8 becomes f2.8 and with the speedbooster's 1.1 crop factor it becomes f2 (approximately).
We tested the speedbooster and found no loss in sharpness. That being said, since you are adding more glass between the lens and the camera there will be some loss in sharpness, but we couldn’t find any that affected our images.
@@BillEricPhotography i was thinking ef full frame lenses 2.8 24-70 and 70-200 with speed booster and and without when need more reach how would that work
sure is confusing, i was not sure, did you say you used the speedbooster with the tokina 11-16 ? thanks in advance. i have the m50 and looking into glass to better shoot realstate video with it, slowly starting, i know the m50 prob not that great for that type of gigs, hey but we got to start some how . lol
If you use a 50 mm with the regular can and adapter you are basically shooting at around 85 mm so that might be a little tight for full body portraits. If that's what you're going for don't even worry about a 50 mm get the Canon 22 mm f2 pancake lens. It's a perfect lens at about 35 mm equivalent super sharp and very affordable. Plus you don't need any adapters.
It would be but you would need to use a speed booster with a crop sensor camera. so this field trucks adapter would work for that. With the regular adapter you would need a wider lens.
Hello I just bought a m50 with a viltrox speed booster. My lens is the tamron 18-400mm lens and the vignetting in the corners is so bad. How can I fix this problem? Do you think the non speed booster attachment would help?
Sometimes it does benefit to get native EF-M lenses. With mirrorless your flange distance us very small vs like 44mm with EF mount i believe. The inverse square law still applies INSIDE the lense and flange. Thus, the closer the light source is to the sensor the brighter it will be. This means that with EF-M (or any mirror less) you can get effectively the same DOF, the same amount of light, as you would with a full frame camera with a full frame lense. But, because they effectively have to gather less light to get the same brightness: native ef-m lenses are lighter and smaller. Compare the sigma 56mm f1.4 EF-M to the canon 85mm f1.8 EF lens. Yes the 85mm has a larger diameter aperture so it does physically let in more light, but the brightness from that light is lost because of the longer travel of light. So what im saying: you can get the same quality photos with a native EF-M without needing a big bulky EF lens. What is an absolute joke however is the EF-S lenses mounted on an M50. At that point you have effectively the same physical amount of glass elements as an EF lens, and the same bulkiness as well, but you get no real benefit because m50 is aps-c already, same as ef-s. In fact, i would argue efs-s with an eosm camera is arguably less light and less sharp than a native ef-m lens. Also: most ef-s lenses with a speed booster will have heavy vignetting in the bottom half of focal range. So: not sure you gain anything with a speed booster. I say this as someone who owns both the viltrox speed booster and the viltrox efs-efm adapter. I have used an 85mm EF lens with both, and used the sigma 18-35 APS-C EF-S with both.
It does affect the DOF, as well. The best way to think about it is that the combination of the lens (I'll use the EF 50mm f/1.8 as an example) and the speedbooster creates a single EF-M lens with the same physical aperture as before and a focal length that has been reduced by 0.71x (the technical name for a speedbooster is a focal reducer.) If the aperture is the same size and the focal length is reduced, then the f-number must also be reduced, since: aperture = focal length/f-number. For my example lens, the relationship was aperture = 50/1.8 (thus, "f/1.8"), which means that it has a 27.8mm physical aperture opening. With the speedbooster, the left-hand side is the same, but the right hand side has 0.71x50 = 35.5 in the numerator. I.e., same aperture = 071*old focal length/new f-number, or put another way 27.8 = 35.5/new f-number. Thus, the new f-number is, in fact, 0.71*1.8 = 1.28. So, the combined unit will behave exactly like a native EF-M 35mm f/1.3 (rounded for marketing purposes) would.
I actually have a EF 50mm f/1.4 on the Viltrox SB and an EF-M 32mm f/1.4. Though the former has a slightly longer effective focal length (35mm vs. 32 mm), the difference in FOV is minimal. However, the difference in DOF is very noticeable. The EF 50mm f/1.4 on the speedbooster definitely looks like (and exposes like) an EF-M 35mm f/1 would.
Thanks for the detailed explanation! Lots of math there! I haven't noticed that much of a difference but I need to use it both ways more to see.
Very nicely explained and very helpful to many M50 owners.... wishing you all the best with your channel here.
Thank you! 😊
Just wanted to add on about the magnifying effect of speedboosters, yes it does make lenses one stop brighter, but before that I think we need to apply the crop factor to the aperture first, because the aperture changes along with the focal length.
Let’s take the EF 50mm f/1.8 as an example, if it’s used on the M50 (APS-C 1.6x crop), not only the focal length becomes 80mm, but at wide open the aperture will effectively become 2,88 (or about 2,8 let’s say). So using the speedbooster will just bring it back down to...
Let’s calculate,
I remember the Viltrox is at 0.71x
So 2.88 x 0.71 = 2.0448
The nifty fifty will be about f/2 wide open
So yeah, that’s what I wanted to point out. These speedboosters just help the lenses perform closer to what they would be on a full frame camera, which is always great, but it’s no miracle. I’m still with my kit lens and would probably get the EF-M 22mm f/2 first before going for the speedbooster.
Anyways, love the video! Especially the part where you talked about the battery drain, literally you’re the first one who mentioned it and I feel that’s a very important thing! Keep up the good work! 💪🏻
Got it, thank you for the info!
Why can't videos just be this simple and address the basics and then build from there ... calmly delivered and not loads of clutter and effects to distract which is really annoying on instructional vids ... great vid
Thanks! Appreciate the nice comment!
Hello...I am enjoying my M50 and I have the Viltrox Booster...it works very well with my Nifty Fifty but no other of my lens work. I need another adapter for my M50...could you recommend one...perhaps the one you use and could also recommend the best lens I could but for my M50 for just sitting and chatting in my videos ( on days I don't want to set up the DSLR) thank you so much! Susan Happy to be anew subscriber!
Hi Susan. What other leneses do you have? The 15-45 kit lens is perfect for what you want to do or the 22mm f2 Canon EOS m lens if you want more depth of field. Glad you are enjoying the videos!
@@BillEricPhotography thank you....:) !
I have an m50 and the speed booster by viltrox. I got the speed booster because I had a canon nifty fifty and figured that I might want to buy second hand ef lenses and have the best adapter with bonus features. The question is not if the speed booster is a cool device, but rather if it's worth it.
I think it’s definitely worth it especially if you have some wide aperture lenses you want to adapt
@@BillEricPhotography i agree. But I think that the speed booster(SB) adapts ef lenses, not efs, right? So we may need the ordinary adapter too, which is fine because it's so bloody cheap,. You can get them for under $50 and the ones made by various companies all do the same job because there is no glass to require quality manufacturing. The first lens I bought was the canon 22mm f/2. I like it a lot but that nifty fifty with the SB is so so cool. It makes the f/1.8 an f/1.2. I wish I had a faster zoom lens than the kit lens, that I could use in lower light than outdoor sunlight for filming my grandchildren playing indoors. Thanks for the quick response. Please keep making videos. Being able to discuss with someone who has knowledge is gold.
do you need to turn off the camera before changing lenses ? , to avoid accidentally short circuiting the electronic contacts?
Probably a good idea!
I have the m50 with the viltrox speed booster and the standard canon adapter. I am sticking with buying lenses that are EF mount only both in canon or 3rd party not EFs. I just get a lot more bang for the buck in the long term and it essentially gives me 2 lens focal lengths with every lens I buy, which means I need to carry less lenses to get the variety I may need.
I bought the new Tamron 70-200 lens & man does it look like a beast on the m50, could not be happier with the results from it so far ;)
I agree with you. It does double the usefulness of each lens. It really depends on your budget because as you know those going to more money. I love my Tamrons! If I ever buy my own Canon Mount 70-200 that's what I will get. You will love it.
@@BillEricPhotography you are so wring with speed booster your lense is not 1.2 its real 1.8 , without speed booster is 1.6 crop
Thanks for the idea! Its quite a good revelation to have both the adapter AND the speed booster which basically doubles the type of sense you get for full frame. I've been breaking my head over what to buy next. This is great!
Happy to hear that this works out for you. Always a good idea to get the most versatility out of your gear!
Canon adabter or viltrox speed booster (for vlogging)
Lens 10-18mm
Is that an ef or EFS lens? I think it's an ef-s lens and if that's the case the speed booster won't work with it. You will need to use the regular Canon adapter which will give you about a 16 mm equivalent. That's perfect for vlogging.
@@BillEricPhotography
I think I will use 11_22
Without adapter 😬😬
That's what I do now.
@@BillEricPhotography What do you think of the kit lens? Is it also suitable for vlogging?
((Canon m50))
It's a decent lens and it is definitely suitable for vlogging.
Just bought this last week- it's a brilliant piece of kit and works well on my oldish M3- can now use my old leagacy EF lenses with a new lease of life. My fave combo is with the 40mm pancake, which is a touch wider, - love the dark performance. Also have the nifty fifty. I also have an EF to M adaptor with no glass from Meike, for a 1/4 of the Canon price, all electronics fully supported.
If you have old ef-mount lenses the speed booster is definitely a useful tool to have in the bag!
Hi. How to use Canon 10-18mm with Viltrox Speedbooster?
You can't use that lens with the speed booster. It's an EFS lens the speed booster only works with Canon EF lenses.
@@BillEricPhotography ok thanks
Great video and channel. Not sure what was going on with your white balance (if that's what it was) but big thanks about the reported battery draw with the speedbooster on. I have discovered on occasion that the battery was flat or near flat in the morning and just thought at the time that I must have left it on. I never thought about the speedbooster connection.
Completely agree about versatility, effectively doubling the lens capability of my largely EF bag. It was a major factor in my decision to buy an M50. And it's worth paying that much more for Digic8 to work with the set-up. Finally, you didn't mention that EF-S lenses largely require 'surgery' if they are to work with the speedbooster, which isn't the case your regular Canon adapter.
Cheers
Thanks for the info, you’re right it’s a great accessory and really brings versatility to your camera bag!
@@BillEricPhotography No worries. I've just popped the battery out ... but must remember to check it before I rush out somewhere and leave it in the morning
Our video work is definitely a work in progress. It was the white balance here. I was shooting in front of a window as the sun was going in and out. I've since learned this is a bad idea!🤣
… I wish I saw your channel sooner thank you your educating me. I think it’s really cool 🖤
Thanks for watching!
Top marks for clarity of thought and style of explanation/presentation.
Thanks Sean appreciate it!
Please recommend a setup that i should have, im a beginner, i just purchased the the m50 kit and i just got the adapter and the 50mm. I love to take panoramic views and casual family pictures. I dont want to waste money experimenting. Videos are amazing, Thanks!!!
I would go with a wide angle zoom next that will give you something for landscapes. Something in the 10mm to17mm range.
Any exact model that in my place you may want to purchase? Brand? Model?
Is it compatible with Tamron 18-200mm lens
Yes it will work very nicely with that lens
Do I need an adapter to connect a Tamron SP 15-30mm to an M50?
It's at lens has a Canon EF mount or EFS mount You would definitely need to use an adapter.
Intrestingly, before Viltrox brought their speed booster out I bought a speed booster several months ago from a Korean seller who had modified a Viltrox EF-M to EF adapter to a speed booster and focal reducer. It works fine but I will check if it drains the battery too, I suspect it will! The best action is remove the battery before you store the camera if you are not going to use it for a few days.
That’s a good idea
Does the adapter drain the battery also or is it just the speed booster? Great video. Thank you! Of the
I'm still confused. So I am an aspiring real estate photographer. I have a Canon M50 Mark ll. I bought a EF-M 11-22mm F4.0-5.6 IS STM Lens. Because of the crop factor of 1.6 my 11mm becomes 17.6mm. IF I get a speed booster will I have a larger field of view more accurate to 11mm or 12mm?
hi great video. Cleared many things. i have one question. i got m50 with lens kit 15 -45mm. and i got this speed booster. can i use this speed booster with my lens kit ?
You don't need it with any m mount lenses. It's only for EF Mount lenses
@@BillEricPhotography yah but I thought If i could use it with M lens it could work as Full framed ?
Thanks for the video. The Canon M50 crop factor is 1.6 so a 50mm lens would be "cropped" to 80mm. The Viltrox focal length multiplier is 0.71. So, that 80mm "cropped" lens effectively becomes a 56.8mm lens. (For the math geeks)
I am definitely not a math geek so thanks for that!
Very helpful videoThank u 😊 but if I buy a speed booster for canon m50 , then I need a adapter ???
It's up to you. The adapter let's you use EF and efs mount lenses. The speedbooster is for EF only.
@@BillEricPhotography ooou thanks a lot for clear my confusion🙂
Just to be clear can i mount APS EF lenses to the speed booster
If you do you will get a cropped image, so best not to
I found that it does not drain the battery with certain lenses.
The newer versions I believe have been fixed.
Well explained Bill. I use the same setup of both types of adapters on my M50, and they work well (except the power drain issue, before I realised what was happening!). Perfect way of reducing the number of lenses to take when travelling.
Thanks Paul! I agree both adapters make this camera very versatile.
Great tip about the battery drain.
👍😊
Bill, great video. I'm watching this 2 years after you posted it so I'm not sure if things have changed. I got the Viltrox, and when I paired it with the EF 70-200 f4 lens, I actually get an f 2.8 aperture of the much more expensive lens. That was a nice surprise. Likewise, with the Nifty Fifty, it's as you explained. However, the focal length seems to be shrunk when using the Viltrox. For instance, when I import photos taken with the Nifty Fifty into Lightroom, under the histogram, it tells me it was a 35 mm focal length. Same thing with the 70 - 200. I haven't nailed down the math exactly but you get the basic idea. The focal length is like 49 - 160, but don't quote me on that. Lastly, coming to the Viltrox 2 years after you posted this video, I have not found that there is any battery drain if I leave the adapter on overnight, or even for several days. Maybe that's something they've worked out. Thanks for the video. Both the adapters seem to be useful for expanding the versatility of my existing lenses.
Thanks for the info! Yeah when you work out the math the focal lengths aren’t going to be exactly what you’d think, but pretty close.
@@BillEricPhotography Thanks. I worked out the math on the 70-200. With the Viltrox it becomes a 49-140 lens. I'm looking forward to getting a used Canon adapter and taking advantage of the longer focal lengths with the crop factor added in.
It's definitely a nice little adapter to have and let you use a lot of different lenses at their natural focal length or close to it
I am still facing battery drain issue with canon 50mm f1.8 lens. With adapter, sometimes it shows as 35mm f1.2 lens in Lightroom and sometimes 50mm f1.8 lens. Is something wrong with my viltrox adapter?
It's possible but does it work other than the battery drain!
Can you use your D7000 lens to your M50 camera? I have D7100 and 7 lenses.. thanks
Actually those are for a Nikon camera and can't be used on the M50. I wish it was the case then I could use all of my Nikon lenses. The adapters let you use any Canon lens.
Thank-you for the review. I have a 77d I bought right before the M50 came out and thought about upgrading over the recent holidays. I think I'm going to wait for a few reasons. While I am super pumped for the M50 and Viltrox booster combo, Canon Rumors said that Canon has patented their own speedbooster (potentially more features?) and there may or may not be an update to the M5. The M5 could have a couple more abilities I'm looking for in a camera. So I'm going to see how the year goes and maybe pull the trigger on one of these setups during Christmas season 2019. It's hard not to go ahead and try it out now, but I think the wait will be worth it. Super excited I don't have to cave on a full frame dslr anymore, though $1250 for the 6dmii was quite tempting last month! It's just too big for me. I'm a tiny person who doesn't need massive gear.
If Canon comes out with one also I would definitely wait. From what I understand isn't a speedbooster just for mirrorless cameras? I might have that wrong.
@@BillEricPhotography It's my understanding as well that they are mirrorless only. So yes, my intention would be to use theirs on an M50 or M50/M5 update if a Canon speedbooster ever comes to fruition.
Oh ok. I thought on your dslr.👍👍
Hi I have cannon m50 and I want to buy one lens for video and photography. Please recommend me.
The kit lens(15-45) is a good place to start. That or the 22mm f2.
I want to buy Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM standard lens for portrait , will I need an adapter? (I got a canon m50 as well) thanks❤️
Yes you will need an adapter for that. A better choice might be the sigma 32mm for the M50. No adapter needed and it's a better lens.
Does it has image quality/sharpness difference ?
Not that we noticed.
Can the canon T7 autofocus with the 50 mm younnug
I'm really not sure. I've never heard of that lens. If it's made for the Canon camera and it's an auto-focus lens it should work but I'm really not sure.
Is there any way to use this speed booster on the kit lens 15-45mm or on the other native 22mm f2 in order to eliminate the crop when filming in 4K ?? How to eliminate the 4K crop when filming with a native lenses ?
Unfortunately you can't. The workaround is you could use a speed booster or the regular adapter and use a super wide lens. So if you used a full frame 16 mm lens with the crop factor it would basically be around a 24 mm I think. The speed booster is not for EFM lenses It's for EF lenses.
you got i backwards. a 50mm lens is a 35mm with the speedbooster as it reduces it by .71
Yes but on a crop sensor it stays at 50.
May I know if there's a new firmware for the Viltrox Mount Adapter EF-EOS M2?
I think there was.
Mine drains the battery over night too if I do not remove it from the camera. The last Viltrox M2 update was supposed to help, but it still drains the battery.
I should add, the adaptor and speed booster are great solutions. Also, when needed, the 4K is more useable using the speed booster with the EF lens (only). There is cropping, but nothing like without it. :)
Good video.
Thanks!
Thanks, it's a not a big deal but if you are using the speed booster often it can be a hassle.
Also mine drain the battery. Did you find the solution?
Can it be used with the kit lens?
No this is to adapt EF mount lenses to the m 50.
Great Work
I had a Question
Does Auto-Focus Works In Video for Vloging ? With viltrox adaptor
Yes, autofocus works perfectly.
@@BillEricPhotography thank you so much for reply 🤟
I never had that battery problem that you mention. Great video though.
Thank you!
hi brother this two adapter will support full frame
Yes, they will both support full frame but only the viltrox will give you a full frame field of view. The Canon adapter will let you use your full frame lenses but you will get a cropped image.
@@BillEricPhotography thank you so much bro better i can buy viltrox right?
If you have EF mount lenses. If you have both EF and EF-S you want the Canon Adapter for the M50. You can always add the Viltrox also
Not sure if I’m having a bad day but the adaptor isn’t connecting with my m50. On the booklet it say “compatible with M43 cameras” not sure if I purchased the wrong one. Please help
I think you did. That is for micro 4/3 cameras. The link for the right one is in our m50 videos.
What lens would be best for the M50 using the speed booster for a wide angle look and portraits while maintaining a full frame focal length? Thank you.
Well a wide angle and portraits really don't go together. I would say since it is basically a full frame equivalent any wide-angle lens will work. But if you don't want to use the speed booster the Canon EOS m11 to 22 is a good choice. Portraits you want to stay with 50 mm or a 50 mm equivalent or above
@@BillEricPhotography Thank you.
Hi there, why did you went for the M50 and not the SL2 ? No need for an adapter
I’m thinking of picking up the M50 but would like to hear your overall opinion about your decision.
Thanks and stay safe
Really it’s more about moving away from DSLR’s into mirrorless cameras. And the M50 is really compact even compared to the SL2.
hi Bill. will i be able to connect a speed booster and my new tamron 11-24mm lens? or do i need an adapter?
The speed booster is for full frame lenses so if that lens is made for a crop sensor camera you would just use a regular adapter. The speed booster will only work with EF Mount lenses.
Would you use the tokina with the viltrox speed booster?
No you don't need to. You just use that Canon adapter
Hi
Nice video!
I learned so many things about my Canon M50 and both adapters, but I have a question:
I put my Canon 75/300mm in my Canon M50 with the Viltrox adapter and it don't works, and I don't know why I can't take a photography, and my Cam indicates that F is 0, that problem don't happen with the Canon adapter, it only happens with the Viltrox adapter, could you help me please!
Have you tried other lenses with the Viltrox adapter?
@@BillEricPhotography Not yet, but soon I will buy a 50mm and try it.
There might be a problem with the adapter. Try returning it and purchasing a different one.
I have m50 with 50mm lens but I don't know which one should I buy first. Adapter or speed booster please answer soon if you can thanks.
It really depends on what focal length you want to use the lens at. If you want it to be a 50 mm lens then get the speed booster If you want to use it more of a portrait lens use the regular Canon adapter.
Thank you its informative........i would appreciate more if you can include sample images as broll thank you
If you check out our video the Canon M50 for photography part 1. Everything in that was shot with the speed booster.
Can you use the speedbooster with the kit lens?
You can’t use it with the M50 kit lens. It is an EF to M adapter so you can use it with EF lenses
@@BillEricPhotography thank you for your answer! Great video 👌
Hi, nice video thx, have you figured out why the battery drain while connected to the M50?
Not sure.i think there might have been a firmware update since I got mine.
sir i bought it 2days ago...mine is ok.i leave it with the 50mm 1.8lens.no draining issue yet
You haven’t mentioned lens calibration. Are you calibrating these lenses prior to using them in these videos?
Maybe I’m just lucky, but I have used dozens of lenses without ever needing to calibrate them. I test them out extensively when I first get them and have never had a problem.
I Sherry. We didn't. We wanted to give a right out of the box type of experience.
So the speed booster will only fit the ef lenses and the normal adapter will allow the ef and the ef-s lenses? Sorry new to this.
Correct only the EF lenses not the EFS lenses
How would the Viltrox perform with the Canon 11-22mm EF-M lens when used for interior real estate setups? What would be the advantage?
The Canon 11-22 lens is already an EF-M lens so doesn’t need an adapter to fit on the Canon M cameras. You would not be able to use the Viltrox speed booster with that lens.
@@BillEricPhotography Thanks for the prompt response! I apologize though, I meant to say the 10-18mm f4/5-5.6 EF-S lens, as that lens is praised in real estate circles. My guess it would brighten down to around f2.4 and extend out to around 32mm?
No problem. The Viltrox is really meant for EF lenses not EFS lenses. The regular adapter Canon sells will work with that lens.
I bought this speed booster 2 weeks ago, there are a couple of issues with this adapter, the most relevant it is that for some reason if you leave the speed booster attached to the camera, the adapter drain the battery even if the camera it is on off mode. The second problem is, that is not compatible with all the EF lens, there is a list of the compatibility lens on the company web site. Than before you buy, keep in mind that this Viltrox speed booster for M50 it is not perfect as I was thinking before I used.
Thanks for that info 👍🏻
Did you watch the whole video? Or just came here to complain?
Why didnt they put some optical element inside the camera so the crop factor would be reduced to “nonexistent”? And also why they make new lens mounting so that you have to buy extra adapter for most proffessiinal lenses? 🙃
This is meant to be a entry-level camera. It happens to be a good one. But mirrorless is a small form factor so you have the option of using it with native lenses or all of the older Canon glass. Nice option to have.
Thanks for the info .... if I want to use Canon EF lens on my M50 will either of these do .... or should I just get the cheaper Viltrox one, thanks
I've only ever used the viltrox and the Canon adapter so I really don't know about any other ones. Maybe read some reviews and see what other owners are saying.
IMHO it changes the DOF too due to the fact that you're recomposing with speedbooster on to a closer distance to the subject thus changing % of optics to it, which would affect DOF, wouldn't it? Can you check it with speedbooster on and off for the same composition and framing?
I've did that with two different cameras. My Nikon D750 with a 24-70 and the m50 with the speedbooster and a 24-70. Both at 2.8. there was a difference. The Nikon had a shallower depth of field.
@@BillEricPhotography Sure Nikon would have had a shallower DOF due to the fact that the f/2.8 on Nikon is f/2.8, and on M50 f/2.8 is (according to the calculation) 2.8*1.6*0.71=~f/3.2 FF equiv. For pure testing purposes you should take same body, say M50, and put the same lens on it, with regular adapter and with speed booster, and compare it for the same composition (recomposing, changing the distance to the subject appropriately) - that way you'd know whether the DOF is affected by the speedbooster...
I saw in other videos that the DOF with the speedbooster is closer to the full frame equivalent than it is to the APS-C equivalent so you do get a nicer bokeh.
We have seen that also, another good quality of the speedbooster!
Thanks a lot on this content it helps me out to understand more about speedbosster
Im newbie in canon m50 mk ii planning to add lenses in future
Happy to help!
what happens if you put the kit lens and the viltrox speed booster? does it make the shot wide for vlogging or content creating?? really keen in buying the m 50 mark 2 but dont want to buy more lenses.
It doesn't work with eos M lenses. It's made to be used with EF Mount lenses
If i left speed booster on lens attached not camera so does it work again without any issues to camera ?
That's fine. Just take it off the camera in between uses.
@@BillEricPhotography and i have just seen another review about viltrox that after some time it just drop the quality of image i am little worried but i think this should happen in the price it is i hope canon should make speed booster 🤞
Can I just ask you why do you need the speed booster? Do you have some Canon EF lenses? If you don't I think you are better off buying the EOS M mountain lenses instead. They work perfectly with the M50 and produce really nice images.
I own the Canon 17-40mmL, f4, and thought that I should get the speed booster, so I can get the full 17- 40 zoom without the crop. But would the Tokina 11-16 mm lens without the speed booster provide a better, sharper image,than the 17-40 and the viltrox speed booster. I’m assuming that the Tokina would give a better image, but would there be a noticeable difference between them, or would it be a very small difference between the two?
Hey, thanks for watching. I would definitely get the speed booster and use the Canon 17 to 40. I own the Nikon 16 to 35 that I use on my full frame and the tokina is definitely not as sharp as that lens. I have also used Eric's 24-70 with the speed booster on the M50 and it is much sharper then the Tokina also. the tokina is a good lens for landscape photography but it definitely distorts the image. It's a nice sharp lens for crop sensor cameras but it's not at the level of professional Glass.
Thanks for the help. I will purchase the speed booster.
The question is how much of a loss in terms of image quality one has to accept in return when using a EF lens with the speedboster for photography? I mean in video mode you somehow constanly have some sort motion, either you pan or follow a subjct or you vlog, sharpness and details may be reduced and one still would not notice but for stills any degradation would be noticable. I'm asking because I think about buying a M50 and the speedboster in order to use my EF primes with a smaller and lighter body (coming from a 5D KMIII with BG).
We didn't really put it to the test for video but for photography there was no loss and sharpness. But I can't honestly tell you if you will lose sharpness for video. I don't see why you would.
@@BillEricPhotography I would have thought in case the lens in the speedbooster is not of high quality like it may cause loss of sharpness. Just a thought.
Based on our tests there was no perceptible loss of quality.
Good video I would like to see what the. Footage looked like.
What are you using for this video?
Canon M50
How about the quality of images that we take? i mean the APS-c Sensor + Spedbooster compare to Actual Fullframe sensor assume that we tried with same EF mount lenses and same setting on the camera. Thanks
The quality of the sensor is very good. I don't think it's as good as a full frame camera. Especially when you compare the high ISO performance. but for the difference in price between the two cameras it's definitely good enough!
Very clearly explained. The speed booster was something I hadn't really understood, until this video. One question though, is it possible to use M50+speed booster+ EF-S lenses?
I just saw your answer to this question in an earlier comment. Thank you.
Wish I had seen this video a few weeks earlier. Wouldn't have sold some of my prime Canon EF glass in my excitement to get the M50 and its native lenses. The EFM-EF adaptor was interesting, but the speed booster makes the EF lenses full frame... that is the most exciting part of mirrorless on a budget and small form-factor. Well, I have kept at least a couple of my favorite primes.
Happy to help! Thanks for watching!
I have a Canon m50 with the kit lens. If I want to add a lens for portraits should I get a EFS lens and purchase the adapter or just a lens that's made for the M50?
If you want to shoot portraits I would definitely look into the Sigma 56mm. I did a review of it a few weeks ago. Perfect Glen for portraits and you don't need an adapter.
I’m leaning towards the M50 Mark ii because of the clean HDMI out on it . I am also getting the speed booster and the adapter . Besides the Nifty 50, what full frame glass would give me the best range of versatility without having to buy a lot of glass for multiple shooting situations? I want to take a wide range of stills and action shots as well as record video .
A 24-70 2.8 would be perfect
I wish I would’ve thought about the 11-16 before I bought an ef 17-40. Doesn’t work that well with the speed booster. I get a ton of vignetting when it’s zoomed all the way out...especially with an nd filter on.
Unfortunately there is quite a bit of trial and error with lenses. I am actually selling my 11-16 and replacing it with the m mount 11-22. It's smaller and after using it it's actually sharper! I am learning that the native mount lenses are are perfect for this camera.
Thanks for that last tip about the battery drain. You have cleared up a mystery that I have been pondering on as I too have experienced this a couple of times but did not couple the situation to the adapter. 🙏🏾
Happy to help. Apparently there is a firmware update that might fix it.
Great, I shall download it as soon as possible! Thanks again.🙏🏾
Great video. If you film in 4K with a Viltrox speedbooster on the M50, does the Viltrox reduce the crop in 4K very much? Or is the Viltrox better at widening 1080p footage? As far as I know there is no crop on 1080p. I want to get the M50, but your video doesn't say how the much the Viltrox affects the 4K crop. If the crop is 2.56 for 4K, what is the new 4K crop using the Viltrox? If the Viltrox improves the 4K crop, I might consider this camera. Also does the small battery outweigh buying this camera in any way?
Thanks! The Viltrox will almost completely restore the original focal length/crop factor, so the 2.56 crop factor will still be very close to 2.56. And no, the battery of the M50 should not deter you from this camera. I would recommend getting a second battery anyway.
Hi,you have mentioned about the battery that will be dead after a day when you have the adapter and the lens on the body of the camera.What if you put out the battery of the camera after a day?it will be fine or?
you can either take off the viltrox adapter and the battery will be fine or you can leave the adapter and lens on and just pull the battery. Either way saves the battery from being drained
I prefer to put off the battery just to keep clear the sensor,thanks for the answer ✌️
That works! Thanks for watching!
I saw it in another channel that you need to upgrade the firmware sir.. To avoid battery draining..
Good tip, thanks!
@@BillEricPhotography here's the link,ua-cam.com/video/mR1jjuqpkVM/v-deo.html he have the same problem from that vitrox speed booster complain about it, vitrox reach out to him.. Hope you get better performance from your device later on..
Awesome, thank you!
Thanks for the video, I’ve heard you talk about the speed booster in other videos but was always wondering what the difference between my canon adapter and this was. Now I know. LOL! Keep up with the good videos guys.
Thank you!
With the Viltrox, will I be able to adapt a film camera lens to get the full frame of the lens? I use an adapter for my film lens on my camera now and the view is cropped. Will this solve the crop problem?
Yes you can use the adapter for any EF lens to attach it to M50.
Disney Image Makers Sorry I meant for a full manual lens. Like a vintage lens? Of course I won’t be able to adapt it right to the voltrox but with using an Eosm adapter will this work?
As long as it is an EF mount you should be able to.
Getting the M50 for actor self tapes and to upgrade my web cam. What lenses would you suggest for that? Definitely getting both adapters.
You definitely want something in the “normal” focal length like 50mm. There is a Sigma 56mm 1.4 that is very nice.
For the webcam, something wide like the Canon 22mm f2.
I can put a Tamron lens with the Viltrox adaptor or speed booster on a Canon M50?
Yes, You should be able to. It's made for full frame lenses.
@@BillEricPhotography, thanks! 😁
Does work with CANON EF 70-200MM F/2.8L IS III USM LENS
Yes
Loved your clear explanations.- any tips for using the M50 for video purposes?
Thanks! It’s really pretty user friendly, just set it to movie mode and start in automatic. Then you can adjust things as you get used to it.
Hello sir... I want to know
What is the difference between.. Viltrox speed booster & docooler viltrox speed booster
I don’t think there is a difference I can’t find any info about docooler
@@BillEricPhotography the price of Docooler viltrox speed booster is 13k... And the viltrox speed booster piece is 28k..
I think, something is differences between these products.
Does the T116 work on the speed booster adapter for eos-m？
What is the T116?
Disney Image Makers excuse me⋯I mean the Tokina AT-X 116 PRO DX AF 11-16mm f/2.8，thank you！
No you would use the regular Canon adapter.
so using the Viltrox EF-M adapter we cannot use EFS Lens?
Yes you can use EFS lenses
Another advantage of this is 4k on m50 is cropped so with speed booster it give better coverage
Totally agree!
Hello! Are the Viltrox adapters as tight on the camera (Not Loose) as the Canon Branded ones?
Yes
@@BillEricPhotography Thanks!
So you can just get the speed booster and use ef and Efs lenses ?
Yes use the speed booster with those lenses it will work on the mirrorless body
Sorry just to confirm ! A crop sensor lens will work normally on the booster and just give a normal crop sensor image and a full frame lens will give a full frame image roughly ? Thank you for the reply, very helpful vid dude.
The speed booster is actually for EF lenses. The regular Canon adapter you can use both EF and EF-S lenses on but it's still crops the image. The speed booster will give you the native focal length of the lens when you use it.
Brilliant thank you
I have the M50 and speed booster with a EF 24-105mm objective and I love it
That's a great combination!
This is probably a dumb question (I'm a newb), but is there any upside to using speed booster between the M50 body and just it's native EF-M lens?
It actually won't work. The mount side is to big for m mount lenses.
The f1.8 doesn't become an f1.2 using the speedbooster. The maximum aperture is affected by crop factor just as the focal length is. So, with the Canon adapter and 1.6 crop factor, f1.8 becomes f2.8 and with the speedbooster's 1.1 crop factor it becomes f2 (approximately).
Correct, it’s not an actual 1.2 it just restores the light that was lost in the original crop.
It becomes 1.2 when measured from the perspective of aps-C.
Fantastic, informative presentation. Thank you so much,
Happy to help!
Do photos loose sharpness using the spoedbooster?
We tested the speedbooster and found no loss in sharpness. That being said, since you are adding more glass between the lens and the camera there will be some loss in sharpness, but we couldn’t find any that affected our images.
Im planing to buy m50 and speed booster what lenses Mount should i put on speed booster
If you have EF lenses then you need the EF to M speed booster
@@BillEricPhotography i was thinking ef full frame lenses 2.8 24-70 and 70-200 with speed booster and and without when need more reach how would that work
sure is confusing, i was not sure, did you say you used the speedbooster with the tokina 11-16 ? thanks in advance. i have the m50 and looking into glass to better shoot realstate video with it, slowly starting, i know the m50 prob not that great for that type of gigs, hey but we got to start some how . lol
The m 50 would be perfect for real estate images. Especially shooting of a tripod. I would get the m 11-22 for that type of photography.
So if i wanna shoot nice pictures for portrait and outdoor would it be better directly buy speedbooster+50mm lense or adapter +50mm lense?
The adapter and 50 would be perfect for that.
@@BillEricPhotography Is it good for full body portrait pictures aswell with it?
If you use a 50 mm with the regular can and adapter you are basically shooting at around 85 mm so that might be a little tight for full body portraits. If that's what you're going for don't even worry about a 50 mm get the Canon 22 mm f2 pancake lens. It's a perfect lens at about 35 mm equivalent super sharp and very affordable. Plus you don't need any adapters.
@@BillEricPhotography ohh.. Because I wanna shoot both half body and full body images for Instagram 🙄 tough the 50mm would be perfect for that haha
It would be but you would need to use a speed booster with a crop sensor camera. so this field trucks adapter would work for that. With the regular adapter you would need a wider lens.
If you have a FF lens that is f2.8 does it give you f2.8 DoF that would have been on the FF or is it still 2.8 X 1.6 = F4.8 on the M50.
You are still going to lose the depth of field but you gain a stop of light which is nice!
Hello I just bought a m50 with a viltrox speed booster. My lens is the tamron 18-400mm lens and the vignetting in the corners is so bad. How can I fix this problem? Do you think the non speed booster attachment would help?
We haven’t heard about any vignette problems with that lens, try other attachments see if you get the same problem
Disney Image Makers -currently have just the one lens. New to the photography world
Disney Image Makers on any of the APS-C lenses I tried the vignetting was super terrible. But with the full frame lenses it helped significantly
What is best lens for Bokeh effect in food videography?
Something with a wide aperture like a 35mm 1.8 Or f2 equivalent
Thanks a lot
Sometimes it does benefit to get native EF-M lenses.
With mirrorless your flange distance us very small vs like 44mm with EF mount i believe. The inverse square law still applies INSIDE the lense and flange. Thus, the closer the light source is to the sensor the brighter it will be.
This means that with EF-M (or any mirror less) you can get effectively the same DOF, the same amount of light, as you would with a full frame camera with a full frame lense. But, because they effectively have to gather less light to get the same brightness: native ef-m lenses are lighter and smaller. Compare the sigma 56mm f1.4 EF-M to the canon 85mm f1.8 EF lens. Yes the 85mm has a larger diameter aperture so it does physically let in more light, but the brightness from that light is lost because of the longer travel of light.
So what im saying: you can get the same quality photos with a native EF-M without needing a big bulky EF lens.
What is an absolute joke however is the EF-S lenses mounted on an M50. At that point you have effectively the same physical amount of glass elements as an EF lens, and the same bulkiness as well, but you get no real benefit because m50 is aps-c already, same as ef-s. In fact, i would argue efs-s with an eosm camera is arguably less light and less sharp than a native ef-m lens. Also: most ef-s lenses with a speed booster will have heavy vignetting in the bottom half of focal range. So: not sure you gain anything with a speed booster. I say this as someone who owns both the viltrox speed booster and the viltrox efs-efm adapter. I have used an 85mm EF lens with both, and used the sigma 18-35 APS-C EF-S with both.
wish there were samples
Very nice and detailed explanation
Thanks. Appreciate it!