I like to remove the knob, then slide a nut driver over the shaft so I can tap directly on the shoulder of the tuner. I wouldn't use Teflon tape. A single layer of heavy paper would work better to achieve a jam fit.
Thanks for the repair. I have a banjo student who had the fifth string tuner come completely out. I used the teflon tape as you did (several wraps) and then placed white glue around the teflon tape and in the hole. I offset it as you did using a rubber hammer to tap it in and let it set-up for two days. I then tuned the instrument and my student picked it up today. It seemed to hold well but time will tell! Thank you, Jim Herzing
I glue in a few pieces of flat toothpick to give the splines in the tuner base fresh wood to bite into. Don't completely reline the hole. I remove the button and place a small socket over the shaft. Then, with a padded caul on the opposite side of the neck, I use a C-clamp to squeeze the tuner into place.
Thanks for that note about the peg angle. my secondhand Goodtime came without that peg and so I had no good reference for how to position the new one correctly. Your instructions are helpful for someone like me who is just becoming familiar with this instrument.
Thank you very much for video. What started as a 'what the ... ' day has gladly been saved. I did only use the plumbers tape, which I happened to have in my toolbox. I didn't want to use glue, but guess what, it worked. Thanks again, and as it is that time of year, have a great Christmas 🎄 and best wishes for 2023.
I’m glad it worked for you! Also, read the pinned comment from John Calkin. He is a master luthier and knows his stuff! Thanks for watching and commenting. Merry Christmas!
I hope it helps. I suggest you don't use Teflon tape, as I did. It latter slipped. As John Calkin said, "a single layer of heavy paper would work better to achieve a jam fit." Thanks for watching and commenting!
Although I followed the instructions sent to be my the manufacturer, I would not do it this way again. The tuner slipped. I think using paper is the better approach to the repair. Thanks for watching and commenting!
One might think the teflon could allow the tuner to spin more freely in the tapered hole, even as it is shimming for a more snug fit. The metal taper is bearing on slippery teflon instead of grippy wood. However if your repair is holding that’s all that matters. I replaced mine that was loose and glued it in with wood glue and no shim. After tapping it in I secured it snugly with a cable tie for 24 hours. Time will tell if it holds…
My instinct was to shim it with thin veneer or a piece of paper but I wanted to try the solution offered by the manufacturer. It is still holding so far! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Gee, it looks like a bad design to just press it in like that. I wonder how long it will hold. I don't expect the glue to adhere to the teflon tape at all, because it's TEFLON. The glue on the outer collar is probably doing most of the holding. I recently did some research on repairing stripped threads. I would try adding a few strands of copper wire in the direction of the hole (not wrapped around the peg). It's a soft metal that will conform a bit, and it will dig into the wood a bit.
When you tap on the thumb key peg, please put your hand under the neck @ The key hole, you were very fortunate that you didn't break or crack the neck @ That point! Thanks conwinkustom!
Good question! This tuner has a gear inside it. The peg is seated in the peg hole but the tuner gear turns to change the tension on the string. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@stevesstrings5243 OK yes, I figured it out. I did not realize that even on the old style, there are two independent shafts not just 1. I just bought my firt 5 string , an old beater so had no idea how that 5th tuner works.
Check out the post by John Calkin. Although this was what the manufacturer recommended, Teflon is likely not the best approach to a more permanent solution. You can always to it to luthier and get it fixed right. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I like to remove the knob, then slide a nut driver over the shaft so I can tap directly on the shoulder of the tuner. I wouldn't use Teflon tape. A single layer of heavy paper would work better to achieve a jam fit.
Thanks for the tip, John! I will do that the next time I need to replace one.
Thanks for the repair. I have a banjo student who had the fifth string tuner come completely out. I used the teflon tape as you did (several wraps) and then placed white glue around the teflon tape and in the hole. I offset it as you did using a rubber hammer to tap it in and let it set-up for two days. I then tuned the instrument and my student picked it up today. It seemed to hold well but time will tell! Thank you, Jim Herzing
Thanks Jim! My repair came loose after a while. She John Calkin’s comment for a better approach for next time. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I glue in a few pieces of flat toothpick to give the splines in the tuner base fresh wood to bite into. Don't completely reline the hole. I remove the button and place a small socket over the shaft. Then, with a padded caul on the opposite side of the neck, I use a C-clamp to squeeze the tuner into place.
Thanks for the suggestion! That sounds like a great approach!
Thanks for that note about the peg angle. my secondhand Goodtime came without that peg and so I had no good reference for how to position the new one correctly. Your instructions are helpful for someone like me who is just becoming familiar with this instrument.
I’m glad you found it helpful! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thank you very much for video. What started as a 'what the ... ' day has gladly been saved.
I did only use the plumbers tape, which I happened to have in my toolbox. I didn't want to use glue, but guess what, it worked.
Thanks again, and as it is that time of year, have a great Christmas 🎄 and best wishes for 2023.
I’m glad it worked for you! Also, read the pinned comment from John Calkin. He is a master luthier and knows his stuff! Thanks for watching and commenting. Merry Christmas!
Thanks. My 5th string tuner fell out during shipping so I’ll definitely try glue and plumbers tape.
A luthier friend of mine also suggested that you could do the same thing with paper. Good luck!
exactly what I needed thanks and peace
I hope it helps. I suggest you don't use Teflon tape, as I did. It latter slipped. As John Calkin said, "a single layer of heavy paper would work better to achieve a jam fit." Thanks for watching and commenting!
Nicely done. Good method for that common problem.
Thanks!
Thank you for the helpful fix!
Although I followed the instructions sent to be my the manufacturer, I would not do it this way again. The tuner slipped. I think using paper is the better approach to the repair. Thanks for watching and commenting!
One might think the teflon could allow the tuner to spin more freely in the tapered hole, even as it is shimming for a more snug fit. The metal taper is bearing on slippery teflon instead of grippy wood. However if your repair is holding that’s all that matters. I replaced mine that was loose and glued it in with wood glue and no shim. After tapping it in I secured it snugly with a cable tie for 24 hours. Time will tell if it holds…
My instinct was to shim it with thin veneer or a piece of paper but I wanted to try the solution offered by the manufacturer. It is still holding so far! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Nice repair. I will have to remember this method if I ever face the same problem.
Thanks! It seems to work.
Gee, it looks like a bad design to just press it in like that. I wonder how long it will hold. I don't expect the glue to adhere to the teflon tape at all, because it's TEFLON. The glue on the outer collar is probably doing most of the holding.
I recently did some research on repairing stripped threads. I would try adding a few strands of copper wire in the direction of the hole (not wrapped around the peg). It's a soft metal that will conform a bit, and it will dig into the wood a bit.
Although some 5th string pegs are threaded, most use friction to hold them in place. I agree about the glue.
When you tap on the thumb key peg, please put your hand under the neck @ The key hole, you were very fortunate that you didn't break or crack the neck @ That point! Thanks conwinkustom!
Thanks for the tip! I must admit, that did worry me at the time! Thanks for watching and commenting!
How does it turn if you glue it ? I don't get this.
Good question! This tuner has a gear inside it. The peg is seated in the peg hole but the tuner gear turns to change the tension on the string. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@stevesstrings5243 OK yes, I figured it out. I did not realize that even on the old style, there are two independent shafts not just 1. I just bought my firt 5 string , an old beater so had no idea how that 5th tuner works.
@ I’m glad you sorted it out. Enjoy the journey!
A mixture of saw dust and wood glue' heavy on the saw dust.
Thanks for the tip! Thanks for watching and commenting!
On that teflon tape sticks nothing so why use this?
This is what the manufacturer recommended, so I gave it a try. It seems to be holding. See the pinned comment by John Calkin.
but mine keeps on popping out
Check out the post by John Calkin. Although this was what the manufacturer recommended, Teflon is likely not the best approach to a more permanent solution. You can always to it to luthier and get it fixed right. Thanks for watching and commenting!