Brilliant ! I'm putting two geared tuners on a sitar. A separate block of wood screwed and glued to the side of the neck between tied on frets. Wheeeee ! The socket trick to tap these in is the key element in doing a professional job. Thank you for sharing your expertise. Much appreciated ! Salute ! ! !
I want to thank you very much for taking the time to make this video. I play these instruments but I’m not very good at fixing or repairing them when something goes wrong. I had never had the experience of having my fifth string tuner pop out before until today. Now I at least know there’s nothing wrong with my instrument. Again thank you so much this was extremely helpful and I have a considerably greater peace of mind
For security purposes I’ve used small amounts of mineral oil on the key that goes in the hole and dip it in fine sawdust before the final fit. Great video 👍
You know what the Guitar Style Banjo Tuner is modeled after the traditional Friction Tuner from the Knob, but the vertical tuning post makes it easier to distinguish.
@@RamonaMusicCenter The Guitar Style Violin tuners look like Traditional Pegs from the Knobs but the Gears make them easier to distinguish, plus they liven up the sound.
@@RamonaMusicCenter Tommy Jarrell used Geared tuners on his Violin but you might not have also realized that the Violins in the Hupfield Phonolist Violina have the same Geared tuners too.
Like the socket ideal, I'm waiting for a geared tuner from StewMac now to replace a POS friction tuner. It looks like you forgot to angle the shaft after showing how it was installed at first. I agree put it in dry unless you have a worn hole.
You use a little bit of titebond wood glue then if you ever want to take the 5th string tuner out you take the tuner button off and put a soldering iron on the tuner until heats the tuner up that releases and melts the glue then the tuner comes out never take a fingerboard off.
The tuner popped out of the hole under tension. Simply tapping the tuner back into the same hole it pulled out of isn't enough. It will immediately rotate toward the bridge as soon as the string is under tension again.
@UCzLByuKEV1la17MJkP1uJmA Geared Tuners really make a big difference on how easy it is to tune any stringed instrument. Friction Pegs are really obsolete due to how much easier it is to crank a Geared Tuner. Violinists, Violists, & Cellists (Ukulele players too) don't be afraid to switch to Geared Tuners, because they make the instrument look & sound like it's going to be in tune. Instruments that sound in tune all the time, & look & sound easy to play tend to draw more attention.
Just found an ol' Silvertone (195x) 5-string at a local GoodWill for $19.49. Had a 20% coupon, so couldn't resist. New tuners & strings should be 'bout all it needs. Then a closer look at 5th string tuner shows plastic wood filler. Oh joy. Well I'm gonna give her a whirl and see. It had new tuners with it (ivory), but they're friction and don't match the 5th (black). I will probably get a full set of Grovers. Any honw, thanks for the video. Gives me more idea of what's ahead.
@UCzLByuKEV1la17MJkP1uJmA The great thing about Geared Tuners is that they improve the sound & look of any stringed instrument by keeping them in tune.
@@RamonaMusicCenter That's why the famous Fiddler Tommy Jarrell:americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_606731 (I think all String Players should do it too) replaced the friction pegs on his Fiddle w/ Geared Tuners to keep it in tune, especially when he switched over to Steel Strings. Geared Tuners would really benefit all Luthiers & Musicians cause it saves them all this trouble.
Here is a suggestion because it is happened to my mind you and I am still stuck what do you do if the strings when you are playing move off the bridge if they pop out of the grooves when you’re playing it how would you fix that
@@RamonaMusicCenter as soon as I wrote in this comment I got it fixed but my fifth string is acting up a lot but just going to bring it down and see what my local guitar or banjo shop music shop so should I say can-do
Great video! Thanks for the socket suggestion! I already messed up one 5th string tuner by hammering straight onto the tuner.
Brilliant ! I'm putting two geared tuners on a sitar. A separate block of wood screwed and glued to the side of the neck between tied on frets. Wheeeee ! The socket trick to tap these in is the key element in doing a professional job. Thank you for sharing your expertise. Much appreciated ! Salute ! ! !
Love it!! Best of luck!
@@RamonaMusicCenter Thank you sir. Ramona eh !?! I should stop by. I'm about one hour South.
I want to thank you very much for taking the time to make this video. I play these instruments but I’m not very good at fixing or repairing them when something goes wrong. I had never had the experience of having my fifth string tuner pop out before until today. Now I at least know there’s nothing wrong with my instrument. Again thank you so much this was extremely helpful and I have a considerably greater peace of mind
So happy to help! Always looking for new topics so let me know if you have any other ideas!
The socket idea was a GREAT suggestion😃
Thank you! Always trying to pass on good ideas:)
Wow the power of UA-cam. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, just fixed my banjo that was driving me mad.
So glad it helped! Any other repairs you need help with?
For security purposes I’ve used small amounts of mineral oil on the key that goes in the hole and dip it in fine sawdust before the final fit. Great video 👍
Cool tip!
People try and steal your 5th string tuner a lot?😇
Mine still has old type tuner, will use your method an replace it with geared tuner,thank you for info.
You know what the Guitar Style Banjo Tuner is modeled after the traditional Friction Tuner from the Knob, but the vertical tuning post makes it easier to distinguish.
Correct sir!
@@RamonaMusicCenter The Guitar Style Violin tuners look like Traditional Pegs from the Knobs but the Gears make them easier to distinguish, plus they liven up the sound.
@@RamonaMusicCenter Tommy Jarrell used Geared tuners on his Violin but you might not have also realized that the Violins in the Hupfield Phonolist Violina have the same Geared tuners too.
Like the socket ideal, I'm waiting for a geared tuner from StewMac now to replace a POS friction tuner. It looks like you forgot to angle the shaft after showing how it was installed at first. I agree put it in dry unless you have a worn hole.
You use a little bit of titebond wood glue then if you ever want to take the 5th string tuner out you take the tuner button off and put a soldering iron on the tuner until heats the tuner up that releases and melts the glue then the tuner comes out never take a fingerboard off.
Killer tip! Thank you!
@@RamonaMusicCenter YOUR WELCOME MY FRIEND
The tuner popped out of the hole under tension. Simply tapping the tuner back into the same hole it pulled out of isn't enough. It will immediately rotate toward the bridge as soon as the string is under tension again.
@UCzLByuKEV1la17MJkP1uJmA
Geared Tuners really make a big difference on how easy it is to tune any stringed instrument. Friction Pegs are really obsolete due to how much easier it is to crank a Geared Tuner. Violinists, Violists, & Cellists (Ukulele players too) don't be afraid to switch to Geared Tuners, because they make the instrument look & sound like it's going to be in tune. Instruments that sound in tune all the time, & look & sound easy to play tend to draw more attention.
Just found an ol' Silvertone (195x) 5-string at a local GoodWill for $19.49. Had a 20% coupon, so couldn't resist. New tuners & strings should be 'bout all it needs. Then a closer look at 5th string tuner shows plastic wood filler. Oh joy. Well I'm gonna give her a whirl and see. It had new tuners with it (ivory), but they're friction and don't match the 5th (black). I will probably get a full set of Grovers. Any honw, thanks for the video. Gives me more idea of what's ahead.
Congrats on the find! Send me ideas for other videos if you come across something crazy in your banjo journey!
@UCzLByuKEV1la17MJkP1uJmA
The great thing about Geared Tuners is that they improve the sound & look of any stringed instrument by keeping them in tune.
Absolutely!
@@RamonaMusicCenter That's why the famous Fiddler Tommy Jarrell:americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_606731 (I think all String Players should do it too) replaced the friction pegs on his Fiddle w/ Geared Tuners to keep it in tune, especially when he switched over to Steel Strings. Geared Tuners would really benefit all Luthiers & Musicians cause it saves them all this trouble.
@@RamonaMusicCenter Friction Pegs are so Obsolete.
Absolutely- I replace them every time a customer lets me lol. Only the vintage restorations can get away without me pleading
@@RamonaMusicCenter Geared tuners are far more updated.
It's a Geared Tuner.
LOL... Why are there woodwind mouth pieces on the trumpets/cornets? :)
HAHAHA Great observation. Just storage since they fit and it's a good conversation starter
Here is a suggestion because it is happened to my mind you and I am still stuck what do you do if the strings when you are playing move off the bridge if they pop out of the grooves when you’re playing it how would you fix that
Great suggestion! Typically its time to recut the bridge a little bit deeper. Will do a video!
@@RamonaMusicCenter as soon as I wrote in this comment I got it fixed but my fifth string is acting up a lot but just going to bring it down and see what my local guitar or banjo shop music shop so should I say can-do
Awesome thank you.
You bet!