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  • @JoyBoyTheories
    @JoyBoyTheories  7 місяців тому +23

    Check out my last theory if you didn't, so far people really like it 🔥
    ua-cam.com/video/ARg9aLuuiGU/v-deo.html

    • @goatcxmp922
      @goatcxmp922 7 місяців тому

      You Cannot compare Joyboy to Roger Zoro will never be as strong as JoyBoy You Fool 😂

    • @kodytiffany5686
      @kodytiffany5686 7 місяців тому

      If you think about the ATTITUDE of where people were in the time skip then...
      Zorro had it easy. Arguably the easiest.
      I am not down playing Hawkeyes but rather pointing out that He faced monkeys with weapons that specialize in mockery of combat.
      Meanning the threat was inferior to what Zorro needed.
      The whole time he was there he had Perona and to a lesser extent Mihawk looking after him; while being in one of the most isolated locations.
      We are fooled by the scar and closed eye into thinking he had it rough... but did he really?
      I submit the idea that Zorro lost an eye out of carelessness. He was in fact softened by his time there.
      All his actions post timeskip have outlined his inability to take things serious enough.
      What Zorro needs is an "Ussop leaves" moment; a "kuma KO team" moment events like Luffy had that forced him to see the light and be serious.
      Death appearing should of been a wake up call... but was it?
      Has Zorro realized yet that his carelessness has consequences?
      I do not think he has.
      I believe that will be what Elbaf hands Zorro.
      Going back to lil garden...
      Nami/Vivi/Karoo/Ussop/Zorro/Golden Week/Mr 3 (or San... Ji) all played a part in showing what Elbaf would have going for it. In Zoro's case He nearly lost his legs due to not being serious or good enough. So I see that part coming to play here.
      Will Zoro complete a sacrifice thinking its for the good only to realize afterward it was a wrong decision on his part? Will he in fact realize that he should of been serious from the start and take his own future seriously?
      I like Zorro a lot; definitely more than a certain Love Cook; but he seriously bothers me sometimes with his "Nothing Happened" attitude that endangers the crew because he must Goku every situation rather than take it serious from the start.

    • @kodytiffany5686
      @kodytiffany5686 7 місяців тому

      Not the first to state this but I still think that BB is Tot Musica; or like that crazy plant from movie 6.
      That is to say his being actual EVIL is why he never slept.
      So to connect the 2 stated movie references... the Plant was Evil itself and connected to the night; while Tot Musica is a Devil King that like the plant specializes in mind games.
      Finally let me add that I saw the Sing Fruit as a corrupted DF that was meant to be the Darkness to Nika's Light.
      Joy Boy was going against someone with the Sing fruit that had already been corrupted by Tot Musica; and like the plant it had fooled the world into being indoctored by it.
      BB still needs to get Tot Musica to complete his plan.
      Film Red simply changed the truth of how Tot Musica would enter the story.

    • @kodytiffany5686
      @kodytiffany5686 7 місяців тому

      @@adonaimelles2317 Its not really fair to compare the 2.
      I would need to see Sanji have a serious blade fight and Zoro to have a serious unarmed fight to compare them properly.
      Its hard to tell how much of Zorro's strength is from the specific blades he uses and how much is purely himself... as well as Sanji with good gear or equal blades. Zorro is more skilled with swords and Sanji with Martial arts so it would be fair if they swapped styles in a sense to face serious opponents.
      Why it would come up no clue; if needed Oda will think of something.

    • @bottledmesses7075
      @bottledmesses7075 7 місяців тому

      How to catch up to one piece in just five or six movies...
      Bakuman (Live-action)
      Episode of East Blue
      Strong World
      3d2y ace no shi wo koete
      Stampede
      Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the black pearl
      How to get the one piece experience without actually following one piece...
      Robinson Crusoe
      Gulliver's Travells
      James Clavell's Shogun
      Alice's adventures in wonderland
      The adventures of Tom Sawyer
      Chronicles of Narnia: Voyage of the dawn Treader
      How to get the one piece experience in just one movie...
      Disney's Treasure Planet
      How to get the one piece experience from just American comics, cartoons and live action media...
      Elastic Man
      Ms Marvel
      Invincible
      Megas xlr
      Popeye the sailor man
      Sesame Street
      The big three of european comic book artists...
      Alan Moore
      Peyo
      Moebius
      Herge
      Goscinny & Uderzo

  • @michaelcheung1693
    @michaelcheung1693 7 місяців тому +390

    Barto vs Caribou was a final fight I didn't expect I wanted

    • @sholden4453
      @sholden4453 7 місяців тому +65

      If it’s a 1v1 in terms of meatriding… always bet on barto

    • @qjc1142pigs
      @qjc1142pigs 7 місяців тому +7

      Nice I was the nice like. For your nice comment

    • @shikamarunara2480
      @shikamarunara2480 7 місяців тому +6

      Sounds like a slam dunk for Bart

    • @ArrakisHeir88
      @ArrakisHeir88 7 місяців тому +9

      Barto no diffs Caribou. Did we all forget what their fruits are? Caribou wouldn't even be able to land a hit

    • @Doommaster677
      @Doommaster677 7 місяців тому

      Let's go Barto! Barrier that swamp freak into oblivion

  • @Simucoc3
    @Simucoc3 7 місяців тому +218

    Mr.Prince Moment right there. Sanji deflecting the Attack and Kizarus reaction was pure Gold!

    • @SelvynMiller
      @SelvynMiller 7 місяців тому +4

      He'll yeah😂😂😂😂

    • @jimlebeux8730
      @jimlebeux8730 7 місяців тому +5

      That's deff some vinsmoke shit oda was waiting to reveal for sanji

    • @ThirdDegreeGurn
      @ThirdDegreeGurn 7 місяців тому +4

      Yeah but I really wanna know how he was able to stop it. Oda went out of his way to make sure that what he did was very special by drawing the reactions. I will however be VERY dissatisfied by the "love" argument

    • @SelvynMiller
      @SelvynMiller 7 місяців тому +2

      @ThirdDegreeGurn he uses lightning to deflect light kinda like a mirror when two particle meets, heheh hehehe

    • @iviui2d3i2
      @iviui2d3i2 7 місяців тому +3

      Does anyone else wonder if the reason Sanji was able to absorb/deflect Kizaru's laser beam was due to wearing those Vegapunk boots? Or is this another case of his latent 'GERMA 66 recessive genetics'?

  • @CacoNonino
    @CacoNonino 7 місяців тому +103

    This chapter was packed, even caribou showed up 😂

    • @Pistonhammer
      @Pistonhammer 7 місяців тому +3

      And Caribou knows something about the "ancient weapons" that he evesdropped on in on a conversation between Nico Robin and King Neptune back in Fishmen Island arc , what secrets will he let slip from his mouth i wonder 🫢🫢

    • @CacoNonino
      @CacoNonino 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Pistonhammer And I am dying to know whether lafete, who is missing for a long a time, was together with those two.
      And hell no I am buying that they were there only for. copying saturn... I want to see robin awake, safe and sound, there is something fishy here xP

    • @Pistonhammer
      @Pistonhammer 7 місяців тому

      @@CacoNonino i know right !!! And am sure they have to " kill " a devil fruit user in order for the Blackbeard Pirates to gather the devil fruit of the said previous user , Saturn isn't dead , thats clue right there !!

  • @Kwiz260
    @Kwiz260 7 місяців тому +62

    People act like Lucci didn’t train in 2 years

    • @damegulley
      @damegulley 7 місяців тому +11

      Plus he has haki now. Plus he’s awakened. Haki + Tekkai is probably 10x as hard to break through

    • @manofculture8666
      @manofculture8666 7 місяців тому +4

      It's because Luffy made a mockery out of him and Sanji kicked a Kizaru laser. But this is the same Luffy that took down Kaido lol.
      Just Sanji fans thinking Sanji = Kizaru now because of 1 deflection lol.

    • @GDSprodify
      @GDSprodify 7 місяців тому +2

      @@manofculture8666Cope + We’re Right.

    • @manofculture8666
      @manofculture8666 7 місяців тому +1

      @@GDSprodify How is it cope? Luffy in G5 is rightfully far above Zoro and Sanji, the guy took down Kaido.
      And deflecting an attack doesn't make you equals, it's straight up copium to think that's the case lol.
      Find it funny how when Luffy puts Kizaru momentarily out of action in one hit, everyone says "Kizaru just got tired" or "Kizaru still over Luffy"... but Sanji deflects 1 attack and suddenly Sanji = Kizaru 🤣.

    • @josephmother2659
      @josephmother2659 7 місяців тому

      @@damegulleyyou mean to tell me one of the most (allegedly) dangerous people in the world had zero haki before the time skip? The farthest I’ll go with justifying it is MAYBE he decided not to use it against Luffy due to being physically stronger and faster, or believed he didn’t need it at all (against anybody he might possibly fight) and neglected training it because he thought he was built different.

  • @oliverbicanic8517
    @oliverbicanic8517 7 місяців тому +202

    Oda confirmed in an SBS caribou didn't hear luffy's end dream

    • @JoyBoyTheories
      @JoyBoyTheories  7 місяців тому +63

      ahh must have missed it

    • @antoniou.1158
      @antoniou.1158 7 місяців тому +38

      @@JoyBoyTheories make sure you let your audience know, after confirming.

    • @werty21100
      @werty21100 7 місяців тому +12

      Imagine if caribou did hear luffy true dream beyond being a pirate king and told/snitched it to Blackbeard I wonder what have Blackbeard done if he knew of luffy true dream

    • @JoyBoyTheories
      @JoyBoyTheories  7 місяців тому +16

      Probably not going to happen it's a minor thing@@antoniou.1158

    • @davidwilson6577
      @davidwilson6577 7 місяців тому +17

      @@werty21100 He'd probably laugh and say good luck? Maybe even 'I hope he does'? Blackbeard seems pretty big on dreams.

  • @Crisis941
    @Crisis941 7 місяців тому +63

    If Katarina can turn into Saturn then Blackbeard might be able to gain control of the Pacifista and Seraphim which is scary especially for the WG. Also he now has a free ticket into Mariejoa, I think he will act on this immediately and send Katarina straight to the holy land. I predict that when Saturn returns home after the battle at Egghead he will be told by a marine that apparently he already arrived and that Katarina will be going after the secret treasure of Mariejoa that Doflamingo talked about. Doflamingo said if he had that treasure he could've brought down the WG so Blackbeard probably wants it to conquer the world.

    • @Dontdoit_
      @Dontdoit_ 7 місяців тому +5

      I think all that will happen besides Saturn returning. I think he’s going to die here

    • @farishakim6759
      @farishakim6759 7 місяців тому +2

      Do you even read last chapter....Bonney has the highest command of Pacifista and Kuma Seraphim
      The remaining seraphim, the highest command might still be under Gorosei

    • @GhostLGNDClashRoyale
      @GhostLGNDClashRoyale 7 місяців тому

      ​@@farishakim6759sneaky Vega Punk

    • @Crisis941
      @Crisis941 7 місяців тому +4

      @@farishakim6759 I know that but Bonney can't be everywhere. If she isn't at the final war and Blackbeard shows up with Katarina, boom, he's got control of the Seraphim and Pacifista's now.

    • @Pickn4Gold
      @Pickn4Gold 7 місяців тому +1

      Only part I'm struggling with is who would know what he looks like, but wouldn't know him well enough that Catarina wearing his meatsuit would trick them. Remember the last low rank marine who saw Saturn had his head disappear and if she ran into the other Gorosei while infiltrating then they'd notice their 800 year old friend is acting weird right?
      She said Saturn's powers were delicious, can she replicate devil fruit powers too? Can she steal memories? Because if she can steal memories, why wouldn't she target the Gorosei to find out where the Man Marked by Flames is if the WG has the last Road Poneglyph under its control?

  • @Shidyk
    @Shidyk 7 місяців тому +28

    This chapter was crazy. Also, points for Sanji making Kizaru actually look shocked

  • @donnieblevins
    @donnieblevins 7 місяців тому +117

    Zoro was talking like he was just keeping Lucci busy. No bandana, 2 swords, and no named attacks.

    • @monkeythief5
      @monkeythief5 7 місяців тому +13

      Exactly. Luffy going G5 is like going from 0 to 100. It’s not even a fair comparison. Zoro is playing with his food.

    • @youngkaykay2005
      @youngkaykay2005 7 місяців тому +11

      No enma draining his arm or conq either its clear zoro isnt taking lucci seriously

    • @kingsukhghosh8021
      @kingsukhghosh8021 7 місяців тому +13

      Zoro fandogs barking as usual 😂😂😂

    • @DH-yz3cr
      @DH-yz3cr 7 місяців тому +18

      @@kingsukhghosh8021u not disproving his point tho jit. Try joining the conversation next time instead of yapping behind yo screen

    • @rickthomson2773
      @rickthomson2773 7 місяців тому +4

      Huffing and puffing

  • @EloiNavarro
    @EloiNavarro 7 місяців тому +38

    I thought the "why" on Saturn was obvious but since you didn't mentioned it. I'll say it right here. On Amazon Lily, BB met the Seraphim (he wasn't expecting that set back), he needed a contingency plan. His solution? Being able to impersonate a high ranking authority chip holder (knows about those through Koby). They went for Vegapunk, got a Gorosei member (even higher than VP). Seraphim are a problem no more for BB.

    • @DANCERcow
      @DANCERcow 7 місяців тому

      Except when the seraphim start acting on their own instincts and will. Ben stated time and time again that Vegapunk has not found a way to override raw instincts. The will of the lineage factor can't be overwritten. So it might work for a bit but over a quick period they will start acting like their real counterparts. We've already seen that with the boa seraphim.

    • @Pickn4Gold
      @Pickn4Gold 7 місяців тому

      I like that but with the details that S-Bird and S-Croc are likely uncontrollable, and S-Snake loves Luffy, and S-Bear likely loves Bonney. Maybe even S-Bat loves Peronia enough to ignore orders, and S-Shark is just a good being in general idk with him?
      Only thing I'd be curious is if Catarina Devon absorbs memories, because it seems like her delicious comments means she can replicate fruit powers. The reason I mention this is if she got Saturn's memories, like say the location or how to find the Man Marked by Flames, why wouldn't Blackbeard go to Laugh Tale now to become King of the Pirates? And thus forcing Imu to come out of hiding to wherever Teach wants to fight his battle on his battlefield, which Pizzaro can likely manipulate with the Island Island fruit.

    • @kingofnonation5843
      @kingofnonation5843 7 місяців тому

      Id love for Katerina to try and infiltrate the holy land and IM knows almost instantly and kills them on the spot. Or didnt know and was planning on killing Saturn for failing

  • @Kush_Daddy
    @Kush_Daddy 7 місяців тому +109

    the power of love has been mentioned several times this arc, as a joke mostly, but kizarus line of "throw out the physics books" has me thinking that the ancient kingdoms technology didn't go off of physics and mechanical science, but something else. which is why vegapunks tech has always fallen just short

    • @Dika-lr6zt
      @Dika-lr6zt 7 місяців тому +4

      I was laughing my ass off when he said that
      Physics is so large and complex
      So to start from scratch cause of Sanji's love is crazy

    • @FayeLawnKrack3d
      @FayeLawnKrack3d 7 місяців тому +5

      Maybe not just love.
      Willpower.
      Or rather, HAKI.

  • @zorororonoa22
    @zorororonoa22 7 місяців тому +12

    Zoro had two swords, not showing kings haki and no bandana while lucci is already awakened. Just wait

  • @csrxviple
    @csrxviple 7 місяців тому +69

    BB pirates took the serafim , and caterina Devon can now control them by morphing into Saturn

    • @mandygabisan6109
      @mandygabisan6109 7 місяців тому +5

      If Bonney is not in the area

    • @oliverbicanic8517
      @oliverbicanic8517 7 місяців тому +12

      @@mandygabisan6109 bonney only has max authority over the pacifista, not the seraphim, perhaps the kuma seraphim but all the others dont respond to her authority

    • @BLUE-fn6kb
      @BLUE-fn6kb 7 місяців тому +4

      Did she took the serfim? When which page and which serphim

    • @jenniferst.george810
      @jenniferst.george810 7 місяців тому +2

      She gave Saturn a pat and she and Augur left before Saturn could attack them. They didn’t have time to get them

    • @crabby6549
      @crabby6549 7 місяців тому +2

      It could have been just off-screened

  • @magmatickieranbaker8041
    @magmatickieranbaker8041 7 місяців тому +18

    The way i see, lucci was slacking off for 7 years then got a wake up call when he lost to luffy. He is a prodigy, and has been working hard for cp0 for 2 years. If luffy can become yonko level in 2 years and an awakening, i feel like lucci can become commander-admiral level in the same time.

    • @Gnidel
      @Gnidel 7 місяців тому +4

      Basically Frieza.

  • @EliteHenz
    @EliteHenz 7 місяців тому +11

    Hmm, they specifically used the term "lineage" for Blackbeard in this chapter. Saturn also confirmed previously that Kuma was the last Buccaneer so it doesn't seem likely to be hinting BB is a Buccaneer.
    Combine that with Van Augur emphasizing Blackbeard's goal is the world really draws more lines and connections to Xebec who also wanted to rule the world.

    • @Dragon99790
      @Dragon99790 7 місяців тому +2

      +Ship called saber of xebec…when nobody is suppose to even know who rocks is.Waaay too many connections to rocks, that’s gotta be what Saturn was hinting towards.

  • @musizlover2008
    @musizlover2008 7 місяців тому +39

    The fact that Van Augur is there on Egghead means that Robin could be in more danger here.

    • @monkeydturock5632
      @monkeydturock5632 7 місяців тому +11

      I dunno, they seem content with having Pudding. At least for now.

    • @andrew-rn9ui
      @andrew-rn9ui 7 місяців тому +6

      Why teach has pudding

    • @musizlover2008
      @musizlover2008 7 місяців тому +3

      @monkeydturock5632 Yeah, but she hasn't awakened her lineage yet, so capturing Robin could be Plan B.

    • @jimlebeux8730
      @jimlebeux8730 7 місяців тому +4

      Seems odd Robin has been non existent in the latest chapters

    • @GhostLGNDClashRoyale
      @GhostLGNDClashRoyale 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@jimlebeux8730Well she is with the crew on the ship. They are all waiting for Luffy and Zoro

  • @sk8rboi66
    @sk8rboi66 7 місяців тому +30

    I like that Oda scales people’s power to the story and not vice versa. It makes sense that Lucci would be stronger after the two year time skip. Characters are as powerful as oda needs them to be.

    • @koatam
      @koatam 7 місяців тому +14

      I don't like this idea that only main characters are allowed to get stronger.

    • @sk8rboi66
      @sk8rboi66 7 місяців тому +10

      @@koatam agreed, the world should get stronger as the main character powers up

    • @elzyofficial9087
      @elzyofficial9087 7 місяців тому +3

      Fr this ain’t Naruto

    • @Dr.HooWho
      @Dr.HooWho 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@koatam well he got stronger and luffy got more stronger so

    • @DANCERcow
      @DANCERcow 7 місяців тому +1

      But considering the gap between pre time skip Lucci over Zoro and they both trained Lucci awakened and ranked up and has motive to get stronger to prevent another major defeat from Luffy and Zoro unlocked conquerors through the use of his new Oden sword. They both trained being a marine and cp agent by default of military and Zoro training with Mihawk and also frequently weight training when they have down time between islands... Lucci always still scaled above Zoro. Lucci was at 100 and Zoro was at 50, no Lucci is as 1000 and Zoro is at like 800.

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 7 місяців тому +21

    I hope we see wherever Laffite has been

  • @mr.feeny-5
    @mr.feeny-5 7 місяців тому +8

    Van Augar is top 3 on the crew and is carrying the Black beard pirates

  • @TheElectrikCow
    @TheElectrikCow 7 місяців тому +18

    Zoro has just 2 swords right now

    • @DANCERcow
      @DANCERcow 7 місяців тому +5

      Yeah after he had been using conquerors and 3 sword style lol he's clearly running out of steam mean while Lucci's still in his awakened form he still has gas in his tank

    • @timurjack8773
      @timurjack8773 7 місяців тому

      Lucci is not using black armament haki

    • @RocksD.Quebec
      @RocksD.Quebec 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@timurjack8773 Lucci is awakened. Zoro has 2 swords no haki and no bandana. You can pretend neither is going all out. But 1 is in his strongest form while the other isn't even close.

    • @Mohamad-m7md
      @Mohamad-m7md 7 місяців тому

      Because he’s a FRAUDSWORDSMAN if he was a really chad like Ryuma 1 sword should be enough

  • @csr2298
    @csr2298 7 місяців тому +18

    Kizaru knows he's looking more and more foolish by the minute. It'll be nice to see him struggle/panic after years of being so laid back.

  • @bassbeatsonepieceo1189
    @bassbeatsonepieceo1189 7 місяців тому +24

    This chapter just kept on getting better I don’t even know what to do with myself after reading that

  • @iviui2d3i2
    @iviui2d3i2 7 місяців тому +25

    Regarding Lucci vs Zoro: Felt more like Zoro was isolating Lucci to keep him out of the loop and away from being able to participate in the big ruckus going on. He only had 2 swords, no black headband, not even close to using Ashura, Great Dragon Cutter, Purgatory, iai shi-shi-son-son, 1 Billion worlds, 11 Mercy's ,Blah-blah techniques (which would've likely been close to ending with a one-shotted Lucci). Zoro's words saying that it's funny how Lucci thinks he's actually the one controlling the fight etc., (like Mihawk using his smallest knife because he already knew how strong his opponent - early - Zoro was). Zoro has had that ability to know his opponents' strength/power before ever fighting.

    • @SinisterPlauges
      @SinisterPlauges 7 місяців тому +5

      Dude people trippin hard on this lol. Like just because Zoro beat King doesnt make him stronger than King. Like most people agree Luffy is still weaker than Kaido even after beating him. Like the ass pulling and slander Joyboy has over this small fight is insane.

    • @iviui2d3i2
      @iviui2d3i2 7 місяців тому +1

      @@SinisterPlauges yeah, most of the fanbase becomes excessively obsessed with whichever character they 'feel' represents the person they wish they were and then just Stan all over everything even in the face of obvious plot devices. For the Zoro/Lucci, it doesn't really even matter what happens since it's all about pushing some 'rising action' into the story arc; someone will win, or nobody will win. From what we know, I decided to point out the things that we already know about the current state of Zoro and the manner in which he appears to be fighting once we FINALLY see his Marimo ass. Yet, we know little to nothing about just how far Rob has come since Ennies Lobby. At this point I can only draw a possible conclusion based upon what is known about the way Zoro fights, and how his "Power Levels" are conveyed to us visually. But for sure, people been ready to throw down irl, over this fight (which has even been OFF-PANEL this whole time) for the past month 😂
      I kept seeing people arguing about "which one is PANTING more 😁", like wtf? That's all you guys are basing things on? Thought it'd be nice to add more fuel to the fire and point out the more important and obviously very overlooked clues.

    • @ethanfitzer7039
      @ethanfitzer7039 7 місяців тому +2

      @@iviui2d3i2 i think this fight was also done, to not have all three of the monster trio in the main arena fighting kizaru/Saturn (also gives Luffy and Sanji the chance for a joint fight against a Boss enemy, like how we had Luffy and zoro moments against Big Mom and Kaido in Wano

    • @jsmooth8655
      @jsmooth8655 7 місяців тому

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@SinisterPlaugesin Op strength and abilities play a big part in the matchups but I do believe Zoro is stronger than King however King would have better matchups against the verse than Zoro. I’d even extend that to Law being weaker BUT Law more than likely will cook Zoro in a 1v1. Him only using 2 swords makes me think he’s not taking it seriously at all

    • @durpanda123
      @durpanda123 7 місяців тому

      Oh my god here we go...

  • @KScrono
    @KScrono 7 місяців тому +38

    And the sanji part is so raw you ppl dont realize ..it.
    He kicked a lazer and it changed course. He was literally bending light, correct me if im wrong, but the only thing in the universe that can do that are black holes and now sanji apparently 😂

    • @WickedlyChill
      @WickedlyChill 7 місяців тому +18

      Had kizaru questioning reality 😂

    • @MrRourk
      @MrRourk 7 місяців тому +2

      Don't forget the sword to the head

    • @ryanpiotr1929
      @ryanpiotr1929 7 місяців тому +9

      Eh. Light is diffracted when it goes from one medium to another, more importantly it is reflected by a bunch of things.

    • @christianmorales1311
      @christianmorales1311 7 місяців тому +7

      Could be the Vega punk tech in his boots. Remember Atlas punched that light hologram with special tech gloves

    • @SomeCallMeAku
      @SomeCallMeAku 7 місяців тому +8

      I mean... he is "Black Leg" Sanji, after all

  • @ActualHumanMigz
    @ActualHumanMigz 7 місяців тому +15

    Catarina's fruit is going to be wild. Did anyone else feel it was implied that her copy power isn't limited to just a physical copy but also copying whatever powers that person wields? She expressed a very specific interest in what kind of power Saturn has just before tapping him to presumably store his form in her memory bank, and in being a mythical Zoan that's a better version of the Mane-Mane Fruit, I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility.

    • @schippes24
      @schippes24 7 місяців тому

      Did anyone realize as whom she transformed? She was just suddenly there and didn't hide amongst the people, right?

    • @ActualHumanMigz
      @ActualHumanMigz 7 місяців тому

      @@schippes24 I was trying to figure that out too, if that was even the case at all. Although I don't know that she necessarily needed to be disguised since they just warped freely onto the scene.

    • @Level-in5ic
      @Level-in5ic 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@schippes24Van Augur was warping them?

  • @ZDaddyProductions
    @ZDaddyProductions 7 місяців тому +5

    Due to no one knowing that BB Pirates were at the island I think it’s possible the Straw Hats are gonna get the blame. They boutta become very notorious/wanted

  • @SsqueakyRat
    @SsqueakyRat 7 місяців тому +2

    Zoro using 2 swords against Lucci is definitely him playing with his food.

  • @drakemalice
    @drakemalice 7 місяців тому +23

    The BB hype is nuts 🤯🤯🤯

  • @writer8706
    @writer8706 7 місяців тому +7

    Zoro is trying to win yet he hasn't put the bandana on yet.. everytime zoro get serious that bandana gets put on.

    • @TheElectrikCow
      @TheElectrikCow 7 місяців тому

      He's also down a sword right now

    • @IIIIIIIIIIII000
      @IIIIIIIIIIII000 7 місяців тому +3

      He’s bleeding and huffing, you telling me he’s not serious?

    • @Dr.HooWho
      @Dr.HooWho 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@IIIIIIIIIIII000 he isn't lmao do you realize zoro cut kaido and beat King? King is stronger than lucci

    • @IIIIIIIIIIII000
      @IIIIIIIIIIII000 7 місяців тому

      @@Dr.HooWho How do you know king is stronger than Lucci? Did they fight or are you just saying that because he’s a commander?

    • @writer8706
      @writer8706 7 місяців тому

      @IIIIIIIIIIII000 drawing blood means he's taken some damage that dosent mean he's taking the fight seriously. Also you can do a work out break a sweat and not be giving it your all. Have you ever noticed that when zoro puts that bandana and smiles he's about to take it to the next level.

  • @livindedbeat
    @livindedbeat 7 місяців тому +4

    Ever since Cavindash reveal and Hakuba I’ve always liked the idea that BB also has some sort of “demon” that posses his body when he’s asleep. Maybe he’s embracing this and the constant change in BB teeth and such could be an indication of when his “demon” is possessing his body

  • @MAB9815
    @MAB9815 7 місяців тому +6

    Awesome video Joyboy

  • @thetodayshow7
    @thetodayshow7 7 місяців тому +1

    You really stretching the Zoro slander. Luffy can LITERALLY fight however he wants with no barriers other than a time limit. Zoro is a classical style fighter and Lucci is one of the government TOP agents. They should be on par with each other but scratch all that….Sanji is the mvp of this chapter

  • @animosityplays
    @animosityplays 7 місяців тому +2

    the only reason why i disagree with BB being a buccaneer is because Saturn said that the buccaneers is now an extinct race while knowing about BB special lineage

  • @hatterdmad8504
    @hatterdmad8504 7 місяців тому +4

    Saturn dies, and Kat takes her place. This is ridiculous... BB is a mastermind.

  • @TheUnkow
    @TheUnkow 7 місяців тому +1

    "Zoro didn't have any chance of killing Kaido even if Kaido just stood there."
    Duuude, what manga are you reading?
    Big Mom told Kaido to dodge ... Zoro left a permanent scar, just like Oden ... And Zoro tanked a two-yonko simultaneous attack.
    Zoro most likely couldn't beat Kaido, but to say that Kaido could stand still is at best attempting to rewrite or redraw what Oda has already done.
    Plus when Lucci started a fight against G5 Luffy and traded blows, people weren't that easy to say he is weak.
    Doesn't anyone think that maybe CP0 has at least one admiral level character? Lucci was and still is a beast in more ways than one.

  • @mysticflow467
    @mysticflow467 7 місяців тому +1

    5:27 well I don't think anybody on shanks's crew is touching shanks or doing feats that he can do. Lucky Roux, yassop, Benn beckman ( his I guess right hand man)
    I understand haki is king in one piece, but are we saying devil fruits mean nothing? I imagine a luffy who never had a devil fruit, would be weaker than luffy is right now. like I imagine queen without his dinosaur fruit would be weaker than he was.. everyone in kaido's crew I imagine would be weaker without their devil fruits
    5:33 Oden is up there for sure. he fought against roger whitebeard kaido, kaido thinks of him as a top tier but the EARTHQUAKE EARTHQUAKE FRUIT? yes whitebeard was 100% more powerful than Oden like, whitebeard charged his punch on akainu with his devil fruit. Oden wouldn't be able to do that. he lacks a devil fruit, and what whitebeard did to the marineford island holy crap..
    either whitebeard was more powerful, or whitebeard lacked haki mastery, allowing oden to equal his level.
    like me personally I can't see how a earthquake earthquake fruit whitebeard versus a clone non earthquake earthquake fruit whitebeard, are on equal footing
    is the head cannon that Luffy gumu gumu no pistol or whatever move he uses. would be the same strength as a base luffy no fruit? or a whitebeard w/o the earthquake fruit hits as hard? is it the swords of zoro/oden making up for devil fruit?
    but zoro definitely needs to get stronger/has room to grow, no future sight haki as far as I know. idk if he has bushidou either or what.
    what makes this kind of hard though is like, the yonko power is so differing, kaido and big mom didn't really get there through haki mastery on the level of what luffy has now, or shanks, so. does devil fruit stop playing a power at the top of the top?
    cause it clearly plays a power below the top of the top. we not gonna act like zoro wouldn't be stronger if he ate a zoan fruit right now, are we? or if he ate some other type of fruit giving him hella options on altering the terrain or what not.
    and how much did luffy bending Kaido's body affect the power of his fight? punching his face all the way through with his devil fruit powers.
    If we say akainu and Aokiji are yonko level, which I think you argued that Kizaru is, but he doesn't have the motivation/free will or something to allow him to beat luffy
    then I think akainu and Aokiji's punk hazard fight proves that devil fruit users would be stronger than non devil fruit users, if that wasn't the case, why would Aokiji use ice in that fight? if he didn't have to? or why would Akainu use lava? if it makes no difference? it could be because they aren't top tier like shanks level, so their weaker haki makes it so devil fruits matter. or it could be that even at the top of the top, devil fruits matter.
    anyways, If we're saying devil fruits matter, zoro should always be noticeably weaker than luffy, luffy has the nika nika imagination imagination fruit lmao. its not exactly the same as comparing gold roger to rayleigh, both were devil fruitless
    but then again... I've never seen anyone punch haki out and crush buildings from afar. yet sword wielders like mihawk, zoro, can. so maybe swords make up the difference XD

  • @kingQ28
    @kingQ28 7 місяців тому +1

    Idk I’m a Zoro fan and all but. Zoro using 2 swords against an opponent that G5 Luffy couldn’t put down seems to power scale just find. Go back and reread lucci v Luffy. At the very end Lucci has a bandaid on that’s it he’s back up and ready to continue his mission

  • @ericrobins5188
    @ericrobins5188 7 місяців тому +1

    It's not that deep bro. I think the craziest thing about One Piece chapters is that the theorizing community flip-flops on characters as if y'all had bipolar. You guys are losing weight by jumping to conclusions. Zoro got a lot of shine in Wano and Sanji got character development. The constant stock market on characters doesn't make sense because the story is not done yet. But hey that's the content.

  • @mark7736
    @mark7736 7 місяців тому +1

    Remeber you having a theory about a zoro luffy conflict during Wano. Thought it was one of the worst theories/readings of the story I'd ever heard. Kind of feel like that again. My feeling is Oda wanted Zoro away from Saturn when he had everyone frozen due to some kind of CoC thing.

  • @waymonperry9070
    @waymonperry9070 7 місяців тому +1

    Talk about over reaction. I’m not knocking Sanji, but he blocked a couple of laser shots. It’s not like he’s beating Kizaru down.

  • @goodtimeskb4343
    @goodtimeskb4343 7 місяців тому +2

    Zoro fans are about to become cowboy fans if its Enma still in the scabbard. We all know that right?

  • @VINSMOKEProductions
    @VINSMOKEProductions 7 місяців тому +5

    This chapter was filled with greatness!! The Giants are in Wano, Luffy pummels Saturn, Bonney gets inspired by Nika again, Sanji vs Kizaru and Blackbeard's lineage!!

    • @andrew-rn9ui
      @andrew-rn9ui 7 місяців тому

      So which admiral is zoro gonna fight 🤔😂

    • @chrisw7718
      @chrisw7718 7 місяців тому +2

      Wano???

    • @Testament127
      @Testament127 7 місяців тому

      ​@@andrew-rn9uiFujitora duh

    • @laiika511
      @laiika511 7 місяців тому +2

      @@chrisw7718we were there so long, sometimes you say it by default

  • @RinseRepeatEat
    @RinseRepeatEat 7 місяців тому +3

    For Kizaru all people to react like that, I think this is a bigger moment than it’s getting credit for. Judge had to have done something to Sanji that everybody is unaware of.
    Jinbe is wrong, if Zoro didn’t fight Lucci, the Straw Hats would have already lost.

  • @idiatico
    @idiatico 7 місяців тому +1

    As a Sanji fan, I think people are being too hard on Zoro. Lucci is pretty strong.

  • @spartanbull13
    @spartanbull13 7 місяців тому +1

    I love your theories Joyboy. And I enjoy your content. But ⏸️ at 5:03 lmaoo

  • @zoro_lost69
    @zoro_lost69 7 місяців тому +1

    I want to point that
    They mention dorry and brogy as red and blue ogre and there is a story of red and blue ogre I wonder if there is any connection

  • @cynicalmandate
    @cynicalmandate 7 місяців тому +2

    Imagine if Lucci actually managed to beat Zoro. People would flip the flip out.

    • @Mohamad-m7md
      @Mohamad-m7md 7 місяців тому

      And I’ll just enjoy all the salt

  • @ThagaBC
    @ThagaBC 7 місяців тому +1

    I think also you have to take into account that zoro was only using 2 swords

  • @HearThat
    @HearThat 7 місяців тому +2

    that look from van auger tho. he and laffitte are up to something. the og's of the blackbeard pirates may have a donquixote family vibe where they have a power balance where those two have plans of their own that go hand in hand with bb's

  • @paulogmf
    @paulogmf 7 місяців тому +1

    Lucci palms are stronger then Zoro slashes, let that sink in. XD

  • @abyssalleviathan5148
    @abyssalleviathan5148 7 місяців тому +1

    Half the reaction is you coping about Zoro 😂

  • @ky0kami
    @ky0kami 7 місяців тому +2

    Oda confirmed in an SBS that he does get semi chubbed

  • @ronaldedwards1234
    @ronaldedwards1234 7 місяців тому +3

    I was Going Off Reading This Chapter All the way from The Bonney & Nika Moments to the Sanji / Kizaru hype & the Caribou Put Me On scene . HOLY S***💪🏾

  • @PetarBladeStrok
    @PetarBladeStrok 7 місяців тому +3

    I mean, it makes pefect sense Lucci got that much stronger during the TS.

  • @Joyboy330B
    @Joyboy330B 7 місяців тому +1

    Maybe egghead will end at Ch.1110

  • @iceman4169
    @iceman4169 7 місяців тому +2

    One piece hype for life great 👍🏻 video nice 👍🏻 hype!!!!!!!!!

  • @bannedtalks2030
    @bannedtalks2030 7 місяців тому

    We all know Law is going to perform the immortality surgery on Luffy in order to save his life, and we also know Blackbeard is on the hunt for the strongest Zoan fruit... Just saying...

  • @CoryWaldon
    @CoryWaldon 7 місяців тому +4

    Right on time

  • @onthearth1
    @onthearth1 7 місяців тому +2

    After seeing that there is famous book called blackbeard Teach the Boocaneer. I guess it's pretty obvious now what the race of Blackbeard is. Now i'm curious to know what this bloodline comes with.

  • @dfile7598
    @dfile7598 7 місяців тому +7

    My thoughts & opinions of the chapter:
    1. When Teach's linage was mentioned, does this mean that Saturn knew how Blackbeard can have 2 or more Devil Fruit powers, while also knowing a way to counter it?! If so, then maybe it could be a good reason to keep the Elder alive long enough for the Strawhats to learn about it.
    2. Caribou's moments with the Blackbeard Pirates clearly confirms that Teach will go to Fishman Island & Wano to take the Ancient weapons that are there! However, I also wonder if this is what triggers the long awaited battle between the Strawhats & Blackbeard Pirates!
    3. When learning about how Caribou admires the Blackbeard Pirates, I want to know if you think that Bartolomeo may end up becoming his opponent in the near future?

    • @georgemen
      @georgemen 7 місяців тому +3

      I assume the 5 elders know about blackbeard's "thing" from when shanks had that talk with them

    • @dfile7598
      @dfile7598 7 місяців тому +1

      @@georgemen if so, then I hope the next chapter may give us a flashback on what Shanks talked to them about.

    • @antoniou.1158
      @antoniou.1158 7 місяців тому

      yes

    • @theviper7273
      @theviper7273 7 місяців тому +1

      @@georgemenyeah plus imu already ripped up his bounty poster awhile back so he’s dangerous like that

  • @ca9735
    @ca9735 7 місяців тому +1

    Spends 7 1/2 minutes complaining on why Zoro ain’t fighting #2 then backhanded participation compliment for my guy Sanji and that’s it?? Cmon JB I need unbiased analysis from you. One of the few left

    • @JoyBoyTheories
      @JoyBoyTheories  7 місяців тому +1

      relax I'm having fun 😂 Sanji did good we are proud of him

    • @ca9735
      @ca9735 7 місяців тому

      @@JoyBoyTheorieswe get 1 or 2 hype chapters every other arc for my boy so you know I had to check🤣🤣 long time listener🤞🏿

  • @salah-eddineouchanni2231
    @salah-eddineouchanni2231 7 місяців тому +1

    There's definitely something going on with Zoro since that battle aftermath in Wabo and I think we will see it here and Jinbe will be our eye witnesse for some purpose later or to stop him

  • @sanket_billade
    @sanket_billade 7 місяців тому +8

    Let's not forget Zoro's stamina doesn't get boost like lucci from his DF, and both were panting in that panel

  • @EMULSIFY
    @EMULSIFY 7 місяців тому

    Me I wonder how can caribou be more a fan of black beard after all feats caribou witnessed the strawhats do

  • @francisnyuydzefon9231
    @francisnyuydzefon9231 7 місяців тому +3

    I think Zoro was hold Lucci off. Not wanting to kill him, but keep him in place till they are ready to leave. I think Zoro feels like he could end that battle at any time

    • @GourSmith
      @GourSmith 7 місяців тому +2

      Goofy. Keep in mind Lucci went up against Gear 5 Luffy ... Zoro would eventually win, but it would take time-time he doesn't have. If Luffy didn't put Lucci away immediately, obviously Zoro won't.

    • @LagoonKnight
      @LagoonKnight 7 місяців тому

      Lucci is playing with Death ATM. He won't die but will probably leave that fight with a deep scar for life.

    • @obmis_arraid21
      @obmis_arraid21 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@GourSmithzoro fans are delusional lol

    • @jsmooth8655
      @jsmooth8655 7 місяців тому

      @@GourSmiththat’s not a fair comparison. We know Luffy cooked Lucci but G5 is a goody whimsical transformation where Luffy rarely goes all out from the jump. Luffy could have instantly one shot Lucci and while I don’t think Zoro can do the same, he should be able to beat him w/ 2 swords

    • @GourSmith
      @GourSmith 7 місяців тому

      @@obmis_arraid21 We all have our iffy takes … But this guy needs a helmet 💯

  • @harisdraganovic1877
    @harisdraganovic1877 7 місяців тому +2

    Hey @joyboy I just bought your book from Amazon paperback. Live in Germany. See you in 2 weeks

  • @im2hype94
    @im2hype94 7 місяців тому +2

    Shit I clicked this on accident but hell yeah

  • @han4052
    @han4052 7 місяців тому +4

    Love the videos bro🖤

  • @mysticflow467
    @mysticflow467 7 місяців тому +1

    3:43 I'm a little confused/surprised as to how you got to that conclusion. that that's what "picking fights" means.
    I would say luffy picked a fight with kaido, and big mom. but its not like he was as strong as them when he originally picked those fights.
    is "picking fights" in one piece a common phrase where it only means you choose opponents you can easy diff?
    I figure Jimbei is just thinking, this isn't the time for zoro to be trying to beat rob lucci, he should instead run and regroup with the crew so they can gtfo

  • @KScrono
    @KScrono 7 місяців тому +6

    But zoro was handling an awakened lucci with 2 swords and no bandana on, when the bandana comes on and wado is in the mouth lucci is toast

  • @Quavon9786
    @Quavon9786 7 місяців тому +1

    The only way to explain my Ancient robot theory is with a car. Luffy’s G5 on and off is revving the battery like a jumpstart and the next transformation will start it and kick over to the alternator to make it run for a while after G5 ends

  • @Ben-iz9ud
    @Ben-iz9ud 7 місяців тому +2

    Oda said caribou didnt hear luffys dream.

  • @Moe_Posting_Chad
    @Moe_Posting_Chad 7 місяців тому +1

    *Let. Him. Cook.*

  • @rajasaraf6602
    @rajasaraf6602 7 місяців тому +1

    Joy Boy disappointed in Zoro is a rare sight to see 😂😂 I'm enjoying it.

  • @dwight6502
    @dwight6502 7 місяців тому

    You guys seem to forget that Lucci is fighting Zorro on his AWAKENED STATE and ZORRO IS NOT USING HIS AWAKENED BANDANA!!! Remember folks when Zorro is serious he is using his AWAKENED BANDANA!!!

  • @cooblur
    @cooblur 7 місяців тому

    Power scaling, huh...
    Luffy needed gear 5 to tank Kizaru's laserbeam... meanwhile, base Sanji kicked the laserbeam.
    The moral of this story is... stop taking things so seriously and just enjoy the adventure people.

  • @woispalmaki
    @woispalmaki 7 місяців тому

    From now on Saturn could be Catarina D = an untrustworthy insect, therefore IMU WOULD KILL SATURN, therefore Saturn will not tell Imu, therefore Saturn needs a deal w Blackbeard

  • @mr_proctober2032
    @mr_proctober2032 7 місяців тому +1

    Odas hatred of powerscalers is one of my favorite pieces of the story

    • @Mohamad-m7md
      @Mohamad-m7md 7 місяців тому

      Power scalers : zoro one shots Lucci
      Oda : I’m actually gonna make this a real fights because Lucci has cool powers and abilities and I don’t want to waste it

    • @-sVn27-
      @-sVn27- 7 місяців тому

      i mean he does not hate powerscalling because HE knows THE PLOT ...and not the reader ....just read 1108 ...the power of love did not age well and eventually sanji took an L from that situation which is for the PLOT i know and none of them are my favourite characters i hate both equally 🤣🤣

  • @manofculture8666
    @manofculture8666 7 місяців тому

    People don't understand Lucci vs Zoro.
    Yes, Zoro is having a hard time. But that's because Lucci is likely at Top Yonko Commander level. Luffy handled him easy because Luffy is THAT GUY, plain and simple lol. Luffy was trading blows with Kaido, the world's strongest creature.. he cannot struggle with a Yonko Commander level opponent.
    Sanji outsped Kizaru's laser. But that doesn't put Sanji anywhere near Kizaru. If we can put Sanji

  • @mikwing17
    @mikwing17 7 місяців тому

    I think Katarina has Saturn's memories.
    Stella's body is probably done for but if Punk Records survive. Vega Punk will probably be a hologram.

  • @bottledmesses7075
    @bottledmesses7075 7 місяців тому

    How to catch up to one piece in just five or six movies...
    Bakuman (Live-action)
    Episode of East Blue
    Strong World
    3d2y ace no shi wo koete
    Stampede
    Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the black pearl
    How to get the one piece experience without actually following one piece...
    Robinson Crusoe
    Gulliver's Travells
    James Clavell's Shogun
    Alice's adventures in wonderland
    The adventures of Tom Sawyer
    Chronicles of Narnia: Voyage of the dawn Treader
    How to get the one piece experience in just one movie...
    Disney's Treasure Planet
    How to get the one piece experience from just American comics, cartoons and live action media...
    Elastic Man
    Ms Marvel
    Invincible
    Megas xlr
    Popeye the sailor man
    Sesame Street
    The big three of european comic book artists...
    Alan Moore
    Peyo
    Moebius
    Herge
    Goscinny & Uderzo

  • @Ax1oM11oo
    @Ax1oM11oo 7 місяців тому

    The problem isn’t that Zoro is weak. He’s not, he’s very very powerful. The problem is that the community underestimated Lucci because he was obliterated by Luffy.
    People need to know that Lucci is stronger than King. He’s a BEAST and a prodigy which means his strength grows exponentially like Luffy.

  • @izanamisgrave
    @izanamisgrave 7 місяців тому

    SBS Vol 107
    D: Hello Oda-san! When Luffy was talking about the end of his dream, Caribou was nearby inside a barrel! Does this mean that Caribou also heard the end of Luffy's dream? P.N. Sena
    O: So, a lot of people were bothered by this, but please look at the previous page. It was said in a loud voice but it was barely audible. It didn't reach inside the barrel, so it's okay. It was only the Straw Hat Pirates who heard the end of Luffy's dream!

  • @SirhcT
    @SirhcT 7 місяців тому

    If Sanji is blocking Kizaru, then Zoro will handle Fujitora and Green Bull is Jimbei's admiral matchup.

  • @dannybob42
    @dannybob42 7 місяців тому

    Sanji stans are finally getting that Kizaru fight, though collectively I am still disappointed that Zoro's fighting Lucci. Like I know Oda's not one for power scaling but logic applies that if Zoro can beat King then Lucci shouldn't be walking right now, it's more a case of 'the plot demands it', which is kinda being used a lot (Brook can create ice pillars to stop the Sunny and Nami can use Zeus for instance) but still, understandable but annoying. But here we go, JB trying to pull the 'Zoro leaves the crew' agenda again.
    Sanji vs Kizaru will be interesting at the least either way, because Luffy was still having trouble with him too, I was sad though that Franky was made a spectator, hey what happened do those Light-hitting gloves Atlas had?
    I won't get tired of Saturn getting smacked though, Luffy roasting Bonney in between was funny - plus I like that Oda made sure to have Luffy react to a downed Vegapunk, social media thought he was laughing at him being stabbed. But the Blackbeard stuff was funny; all that build up for a tap on the leg XD honestly though this has huge repercussions, Devon can likely turn into Saturn now, which gives Blackbeard carte blanche on everything! Fullalead in the WG? Weapons? Access to secrets? Blackbeard has a puppet body of the Minister of War, that is dangerous. It's also very similar to the Alabasta arc; Devon is Bon Clay in terms of Project Utopia. Means Robin's likely safe at least though.
    Oh but Caribou, somewhere in the abyss Merphy Napier is raging. Ever the sycophant, he's sucking up to get off the island (though I do also believe he intended to tell Blackbeard), but I will laugh like hell if Blackbeard shoves him into a barrel too XD at least until he spills about the Ancient Weapons.
    For his lineage, it could be Buccaneer, feel like it's something else though, lest the WG just wanted to enslave him like they did to Kuma and his dad
    With the Giants' arrival though I am curious if Usopp's gonna pull a feat, something has indeed stirred within him after seeing them. I also like to think Brook makes a bobblehead sound when Lilith smacks him

  • @-sVn27-
    @-sVn27- 7 місяців тому

    LOL guess power of LOVE did not age well 🤣🤣🤣🤣 watching this video specially after 1108 is out is kinda funny how much zoro and sanji agenda affects the entire community although none of them is my favourite and both are victims of THE PLOT...

  • @fruitpunchsamuraidavid
    @fruitpunchsamuraidavid 7 місяців тому

    I really REALLY feel like Luffy isn't the same when in Gear 5, I'm not into the possessed by Nika/Joyboy theory, but for the few transformations post Wano Luffy has been giving subtle uncharacteristic behavior especially speech

  • @beasthundred4709
    @beasthundred4709 7 місяців тому

    Lucci was gear 2 Luffy level before time skip. Without haki or awakening. Now he is literally Sanji Level. And Zoro can't defeat Sanji so easily unless he use Ashura. Then again, Ashura Zoro is on par with Nika.

  • @GreenwhiteblueGWU
    @GreenwhiteblueGWU 7 місяців тому

    I've been more than annoyed with Caribou tagging along with the Straw Hats since Fishman Island.. Franky should have just tossed him into the ocean from the beginning.. Caribou is just a nasty character from his very first appearance..

  • @shabba00021327
    @shabba00021327 7 місяців тому

    1. Caribou does not know Luffy's dream. I've read that Oda said so himself.
    2. We have no reason to believe that Kuma has Kizaru's lineage factor in him - that's not needed to infuse clones with Kizaru's lineage factor.
    3. It's possible that Big Mom also knew of Blackbeard's lineage. It's definitely not Lunarian nor Buccaneer, but likely one of the races that she did not have a representative for.

  • @Holo-fn4hf
    @Holo-fn4hf 7 місяців тому

    I don’t know about Zoro. He defeated King after fighting Kaido and blocking a combined attack from Big Mom and Kaido.
    Think it the other way: If Zoro would crush Lucci and joined the Straw Hate they would immediately ask for support from more admirals etc. - And well he probably doesn’t know about the Buster Call yet.

  • @rossgordanier
    @rossgordanier 7 місяців тому

    Joyboy I think you're missing something. Zorro isn't going all out. He's trying to hold himself back in a fight he shouldn't be holding back... Like kenpatchi Zuraki

  • @brandonjohnson1983
    @brandonjohnson1983 7 місяців тому +1

    Y'all know the JB discussions on Luffy & Zoro are top-tier thoughts to consider. Especially when we retrospect previous videos and connect them over the years. It's darn certain that Zoro kept shoulder to shoulder with Luffy from the beginning up until the Whole Cake Island split up, and max potential could be debated. Great points were made here regarding recent events in story. 💯

  • @cis4659
    @cis4659 7 місяців тому

    Why is everyone not respecting lucci's awakened fruit, he's one of the few who awakened one's fruit, passing through it's normal limits.
    Thatt aside, Can Blackbeard may be xebec's clone with buccaneer's DNA? I don't know how or why but it's maybe after god valley. World govt obtained xebec's body and cloned him, that's why the gorosei knew him. A wild guess I know.

  • @ho-zay
    @ho-zay 7 місяців тому

    Caribou doesn't know Luffys dream. 1) in the chapter he could barely make anything out. 2) oda confirmed in an SBS vol 107 that he didn't hear Luffy

  • @alexmipego
    @alexmipego 6 місяців тому

    I wonder if Kabibu is actually serious. It always sounded to me, he would say or "think" whatever suits the moment.
    Kinda like the very opposite of the Chicken guy that loves Luffy, I see Karibu as the guy that lacks belief/trust/faith therefore he ends up doing random stuff.
    Seriously though, if tommortow you get out of the house and you meet 2 Blackbeard crewmates… you too will say "I'll show you the last chapters, don't hurt me!"

  • @jprest13
    @jprest13 7 місяців тому

    I disagree with you.
    1. Zoro was playing with lucci. Will ko him when jimbei arrives.
    2. Blackbeard crew just got boosted to a new scary level.

  • @ChamplooEvan
    @ChamplooEvan 7 місяців тому

    17:56 Caribou explicitly does not know Luffy's dream, while that scene was playing out, he was shown in the barrel saying "I can't hear anything" to himself, and Oda even clarified that he Caribou doesn't know in the SBS that followed afterwards

  • @StrawhatOtakuDrew
    @StrawhatOtakuDrew 7 місяців тому

    Let me start by saying that I am definitely more of a Sanji fan than a Zoro fan. That said, even I think that Zoro hasn't really been giving his all in the fight with Lucci. It's the usual manga/anime trope that's been overused for 20+ years; against a major opponent, no heroic character is allowed to take a fight seriously and go all out from the beginning. They have to wait until the circumstances are dire (they're backed into a corner, some time limit is imposed, etc.), THEN they can finally use the power needed to end the fight. Now that Jinbei has informed Zoro that they're out of time, he at last has the permission he needed to put Lucci down. I think the reason Oda-sensei did it this way is so the reader wouldn't really miss anything with this fight while the story was focused elsewhere. Now that Saturn has temporarily been knocked away from Luffy and the others and we don't have to worry about him dropping any more lore bombs for the moment, we can focus on just two fights, those being Sanji and Luffy versus Kizaru and Zoro versus Lucci (although Luffy going after Saturn is also possible, I don't think it's likely).
    Also, regarding Caribou, I feel compelled to point out that Crocodile was just as valid of an option as Blackbeard was until now. He was actually defeated by Luffy, so that could explain why Caribou would have believed he could win favor by bringing Luffy in. Additionally, we already knew that Crocodile was after an ancient weapon, so he definitely would have been interested in information about two of them. Finally, more recently,the has just made something of a return to relevance in the story with his involvement in Cross Guild. I would go as far as to say that, before this chapter definitively showed us that it was Blackbeard that Caribou wanted to impress, Crocodile was actually the more likely possibility compared to Blackbeard. Still, congrats on predicting it correctly!

  • @AnaxErik4ever
    @AnaxErik4ever 7 місяців тому

    Heh heh heh, instead of Luffy being faced with how unprepared the Straw Hats are for fighting Old Masters opponents, it is Zoro by himself. Even compared to the other Straw Hats at Wano doing their infiltration and "undermining the current regime" missions, Zoro did comparatively little. We were promised going to Elbaf some day, if only for Usopp's personal character development by learning "Courage is not hte absence of fear; it is fighting one's greatest opponents in SPITE of that Fear." From what Joy Boy is laying down here, it sounds like Zoro needs some serious challenges and training time, just like the rest of his crew did during Wano and Whole Cake Island.