This is my first season with the Step On's and at first I felt like I really miss the feeling of the straps. It was weird, I was so use to feeling the straps and the pressure points from the straps as if they gave me feedback when making turns. I'm getting used to them and I'm loving the convenience. Plus no hot spots and pain on my feet, along with riding all day without breaking a sweat. The one tip I read bout is, if you go to F3 or higher on your highbacks, move the gas pedal (footbed) half a size up. Helps with clicking in the heel clip.
Yes, I went F3 the other day, and it did help alot. It feels play is less, I was able to ride again and do carving, it’s been iccy so pretty much smearing turns. Lol but I’m not falling anymore. Lol True, the convience it gives hands down is worth it. I’m less tired from strpping in. I have to be good at this. 💪🏾🏂
My wife was freaked out about the heal play, I measured the play on the Burton step-on and then I set up the board with her old strap bindings and measured the play in those. It was only slightly less. And we are talking maybe a mm or 2. After she went out and rode them...she loves them. LOVES them! I didn't even take a full run before I was absolutely sold. I actually didn't notice a single thing different (besides my warm ass and the fact I got an extra 4 runs in because i wasn't sitting at the top of the hill.) They may have been even more responsive. I even loosened the boots up and rode sloppy and they still reacted like champs! But...they may not be for everyone I suppose. I think they are killer. Good luck everyone.
When you lifted your heal your board actually went up on the heal edge right away my dude and burton did that on purpose just give you the feel of play that a normal binding has
Any turn (whether it's heel or toe side) is combination or so many factors which are taking place simultaneous through the process of the turn and it depends on the type of turns you're doing - slow carve, rapid change, speed check, down/up unweighted turns. Then there's the human and mechanical parameters: like body position and balance, opening and closing of the leading knee, toe pressure, shin pressure, heel pressure calf pressure, stance width and position, amount of forward lean on your bindings, footbed adjustment to match the boot size, width of your board compared to your feet, type of boot (Photon v Ion, v Ruler v etc., etc.), tightness of your boa system. These are all parameters that you need to experiment with. I think you just need to persevere with your riding. Not sure how many days per season you ride but I get 50+ days in per season. I ride a super wide board (357mm at the nose and tail, 318mm at the waist, with an 11m side radius) so I have zero heel or toe drag. I've been riding Step Ons since 2017 and can put that board on it's edge and carve all day (Photon boot, Step On bindings). Keep shredding!
Algo took me here. I see two problems: 1. Your Custom board seems narrow for your bindings/boot. What's the size of your boot and board? 2. Your bindings seemed hanging more on the heel side of the board. That is probably why you are having difficulties on your toe edge Solution: try pull your baseplate in and center your binding, or try a "wider" board
Adjust forward lean on high back by tighten to screws in high back then move toe pad out further to edge of board. Toe side turns are much more responsive than strap bindings so you have slow down toe side turns to stretch out toe side to be same as heel side turns. Have someone video you then you will see in the video your toe side turns are much quicker than heel side turns, practice on make both heel and toe side turns symmetrical on green and blue runs where you have even turn shape.
At 4:38 you are wrong. The board is already twisted which means the edge should be engaging by that motion. The play is a lot more smaller than you think. I have been using stepon for three seasons and never missed strap in for 1 sec. Maybe you could try more forward lean, a stiffer boots or tighten the boa more. I found a lot of problems with single boa systems (the ankle strap on step on boots could only count as 0.5, as they are not very usefull. I have tried riding without tighten it, and I did not notice too much problem). single boa usually leaves some slack at the bottom, and as you ride, the slack slowly moves up to the ankle and shin which is some noticable play when riding.
I went F3 the other day, and it help alot. I was ablt to “S” turns again, its really iccy so I haven’t tried to edge the turn all the way. But happy with it now after changing high back to F3. Thanks for the advice!
I was at the flagship store in Tokyo today. Was ready to buy and wow, the heel lift was immense! What’s even more shocking was that the burton sales rep told me that this was normal! I will stick to my slx and cartel setup for now
You just need more practice in hot high 50s in these bindings without making excuses just ride them and you’ll become a better rider two years is still pretty new
True, that’s my plan right now. I’m not gonna stop until I figure this out. Lol I actually changed the high back to F3 and it help alot with the “play” I was able to do carving (smear) 😅 again. I was able to ride even with very iccy condition single digit temp, and pretty much just ice. Looking forward to ride on a pow day to see how it really do. Thanks for the advice man!🏂
Honestly man, I think you gotta work on your form. These bindings give you lots of responsiveness. I would focus on keeping your heel down while moving your knees forward and down. The bindings/step on system are not the problem …
@@KakaMikkiTrinidad Let me know if that works. I have the exact same setup as you (including the custom board!), except my boots and bindings are black in color. I love this set up honestly, it rocks. People say that the heel play is done on purpose. Thinking about the physics of this, it makes sense. Otherwise you would engage the board immediately upon beginning to lean to your toe side. And considering there is not strap and you are stuck (not strapped) to your bindings, maybe it would be TOO responsive?
Hey.. Uhm no, lol I was able to “fix” the issue watch the other video for you to see. I cant even imagine going back to regular binding. Love my step on now. I got really tight back and hamstings so regular binding is not really for me. But yeah now I can ride parks and slopes no issue, I’m still a noob in snow board but now I have the confidence to learn to ride switch and slowly I’m getting there. I guess step on is not for everybody but slowly you can see in the slopes the more and more people are trying step ons.
Step ons are not for beginners... They are very ridged, and responsive. As for toe turns, they are the same, even if you have no bindings. Press your forward shin against boots, and rotate forward knee inward. Keep shoulder in line with board, DO NOT counter rotate, to turn.. Unless you are riding park, or steep tree runs.
Go to F3, man. I used to ride classic bindings past seasons and switched to Step-On this year (fat&old, cba strapping in!) and so far my experience with them (after 3 days out) is that they are actually bit more responsive than my original (basic entry level). Using the same board as I have (standard inserts, not channel but looking at what your bindings-to-board does, there is some extra flex as well), just upgraded to the basic Step On binding and standard Photon boots. Started at F2, went to F3 pretty immediately after 2 runs and considering going half more to be honest (was riding almost full forward lean on my basic straps, even though that is not comparable). But yes, they do feel different to strap bidingins, that's why I am starting my wife directly on the step ons (she likes the convenience) instead of going rental/2nd hand first. And they are softer/more flexible than strap bindings, so there is possibility on misalignment between the flex of your Step-ons and board? Ie trying to steer stiff board?
I just did yesterday, I went to max forward lean, F3, the ride was much better compared to F2. It is more responsive and I feel like I’m more control. Thanks for the info! Yeah, that would be nice to start on step on right away. That’s the trick I guess. Lol They are really responsive to the point that sometimes I would over do it and fall. Lol Do you have a video of your set up? Let me know man.
@@KakaMikkiTrinidad No video unfortunately, not that much geeking out about snowboarding :) But glad to hear you managed to find a setting that makes them work for you!
@@dsd-downshiftdave8056 I am liking them and I am sticking with them (mind you, I ride pistes intermediate), but if I were in market for easy-entry system this season, I would most likely ended up with Nidecker Supermatic Step ins - generally just because you are then not limited to few boots.
Adjusting the high backs will help. But the amount of heel play I don’t think is normal. I have the same issues but it’s only with 1 binding. 1 binding doesn’t move or make noise and the other feels like it lifts with the boot 1/4 inch and makes noises. I’m taking back to the ski shop today for them to look at.
It seems you got it figured out with adjusting your forward lean which is great! But another reason for this is the re:flex discs that Burton uses. It allows for better board feel with less disc touching your board which you can feel the play (especially on your toe turns because your body has more leverage). This goes for any mini disc like union bindings too. I agree with you that I don't prefer this so I don't ride mini discs. I ride Now and Flow bindings. Enjoy them!!! Just get out there and ride!
@@KakaMikkiTrinidad Unfortunately there isn't. This is just due to the nature of the binding market and companies are pushing to having increased board feel. And this has nothing to do with this being bad, everything is personal preference, some people love more board feel, but some people don't like the slightly looser feeling of the binding. It also could just be that you need to adjust to them and learn how they respond compared to traditional bindings. I have heard that on toe side turns it feels quite different due to the connection and power to lift the board on edge would come from the heal cleat area, which is higher than if you were strapped in traditional bindings, which the power would transfer through your ankle/heel strap to the heel cup and base of the binding. This really isn't an issue with the binding it is just how it rides with the current design. Just getting use to how to get the most power is the easiest and cheapest option. But if you really wanted a convenience binding that doesn't have this "quirk" I think Flow's reclining highback and fusion strap would be the closest. If you get them setup correctly it really is almost as easy as the step ons just requires more balance and more setup to dial them in. I have the 2021/2022 Flow NX2-TM and I love them the exoframe fusion strap and slip n grip base plate make it seamless, but provides great power. This is all in my opinion and feel from riding them though. Also, next season Nidecker is coming out with the Supermatic binding, so you could wait for those to come out --> ua-cam.com/video/QPgCWt_7ShA/v-deo.html
Your boot seems to be pretty small in this binding. What size is your boot (and the binding)? Can you move the baseblate further back? Maybe this would make a difference.
Binding is Medium my boots is 8.5 I changed my forward lean to F3 and it make sthe ride and control much better, it even help me with my toe turn for some reason. Lol
first day on my step on i already feel the heel turn is mostly depend on ur boot stiffness, I sold the binding next day. Good binding, I just like the strap binding feeling better
I see… as of now I’m okay with the heel turn, the other day I just figured it out how to do a toe turn with this binding, I change my toe turn style a bit. I miss the strap feel as well. Lol
More than 20 years ago i had the first Burton-Step-On-System. It was good for a beginner. But for agressive carving nothing beats the response of strap-bindings. Step-Ons in my opinion not necessary. Straps closed in 5 Seconds. Leaving the lift with one-foot-off no problem and slightly turns possible. If you want Step-On, maybe CLEW (Step-In) is a solution for you.
Just wondered if anyone read the manual that came with your step on bindings? Well I didn’t. Until I noticed the extra heel lift on the back foot (none on the front). Then I did read the manual. And it explains it perfectly. There are two click settings on each heel. Both are safe. And it’s there because of snow pack if you don’t clear your binding footbed properly. You want to hear two clicks in the heel for each boot. In addition to a click each side for the toe. That’s 4 clicks per boot. Then you will get no heel lift. Also as people have said. Set the footbed to the correct size for the boot. And remember the sizes on the actual binding will be US on the binding. Not UK.
Thats definitely the right way to do toe turns (pushing your shins forwards into the upper part of your boots) so it’s a shame that burton’s step on bindings have this issue when you’re snowboarding properly.
I use the traditional burton bindings and i find that the heel strap really allows for the boots and the bindings to move together as one and feel very responsive.
As for your legs getting tired as a result, I would try leaning your hips forward to automatically push your shins into the boots. This will give your toeside turns more stability and cause less fatigue in your legs :)
Gotta say, I don't really get the step on system. It pigeon holes you into specific bindings and boots, gives inferior performance, and I don't even see it being more convenient than a strap binding. It only takes a few seconds to strap in.
Yes I do, I have in F2, But after trying it for 3 times now I want to try F3. Can I ask why? Thanks! Oh wow, I never though of the channel might be the reason for the play. 😑 do you use step on as well?
I tried to adjust the forward lean to F3 the play is much less, need to try it on slipe to see the difference. Tag me the link of your Vid so I can see. Lol thanks!
I noticed the play too but I rode Burton Malavitas before and I barely notice any difference. The bindings respond the same to me and the slight play is not noticable at all. Maybe it's because your technique isn't that good yet since you've only ridden for 2 seasons. I only have an indoor slope to my disposal so I went with step ons for ease. It was tiresome to strap in every minute. On a regular mountain, step ons don't offer that much advantage.
I see… still playin around with forward lean, I changed it to F3 and it kinda did the trick. I was able to control the board more compared to when it was on F2
@@dsd-downshiftdave8056 hey, so basically you can adjust the high back of your binding. The higher the number the more angle the high back hits the back of your boot. Easier to push back on your high back.
@Mikki Trinidad I think it's the break in on the boots is really hard. IWhat I did on the break in was walk the dog around the neighborhood on short walks with them cranked as hard as could stand and repeat until they start to feel better. There is also the option of getting an aftermarket liner like the Intuition but that is another $200 but it's very common in skiing to tune a pair of boots up to get them to fit right and that's what is happening with these boots because they are so stiff like a ski boot.
I changed my forward lean to F3 and it did the trick, I was able to use the board like a regular binding. Still getting the hang of it but I’m doing S turns again. 😅 that learning curve hit me hard man
@@KakaMikkiTrinidad Toe edge - there's some center discs you can use to locate the bindings on the board. This'll move the the pivot point where the bindings sit towards the back a bit.
This is my first season with the Step On's and at first I felt like I really miss the feeling of the straps. It was weird, I was so use to feeling the straps and the pressure points from the straps as if they gave me feedback when making turns. I'm getting used to them and I'm loving the convenience. Plus no hot spots and pain on my feet, along with riding all day without breaking a sweat.
The one tip I read bout is, if you go to F3 or higher on your highbacks, move the gas pedal (footbed) half a size up. Helps with clicking in the heel clip.
Yes, I went F3 the other day, and it did help alot. It feels play is less, I was able to ride again and do carving, it’s been iccy so pretty much smearing turns. Lol but I’m not falling anymore. Lol
True, the convience it gives hands down is worth it. I’m less tired from strpping in. I have to be good at this. 💪🏾🏂
My wife was freaked out about the heal play, I measured the play on the Burton step-on and then I set up the board with her old strap bindings and measured the play in those. It was only slightly less. And we are talking maybe a mm or 2. After she went out and rode them...she loves them. LOVES them! I didn't even take a full run before I was absolutely sold. I actually didn't notice a single thing different (besides my warm ass and the fact I got an extra 4 runs in because i wasn't sitting at the top of the hill.) They may have been even more responsive. I even loosened the boots up and rode sloppy and they still reacted like champs! But...they may not be for everyone I suppose. I think they are killer. Good luck everyone.
When you lifted your heal your board actually went up on the heal edge right away my dude and burton did that on purpose just give you the feel of play that a normal binding has
Any turn (whether it's heel or toe side) is combination or so many factors which are taking place simultaneous through the process of the turn and it depends on the type of turns you're doing - slow carve, rapid change, speed check, down/up unweighted turns. Then there's the human and mechanical parameters: like body position and balance, opening and closing of the leading knee, toe pressure, shin pressure, heel pressure calf pressure, stance width and position, amount of forward lean on your bindings, footbed adjustment to match the boot size, width of your board compared to your feet, type of boot (Photon v Ion, v Ruler v etc., etc.), tightness of your boa system. These are all parameters that you need to experiment with. I think you just need to persevere with your riding. Not sure how many days per season you ride but I get 50+ days in per season. I ride a super wide board (357mm at the nose and tail, 318mm at the waist, with an 11m side radius) so I have zero heel or toe drag. I've been riding Step Ons since 2017 and can put that board on it's edge and carve all day (Photon boot, Step On bindings). Keep shredding!
Algo took me here. I see two problems:
1. Your Custom board seems narrow for your bindings/boot. What's the size of your boot and board?
2. Your bindings seemed hanging more on the heel side of the board. That is probably why you are having difficulties on your toe edge
Solution: try pull your baseplate in and center your binding, or try a "wider" board
Adjust forward lean on high back by tighten to screws in high back then move toe pad out further to edge of board.
Toe side turns are much more responsive than strap bindings so you have slow down toe side turns to stretch out toe side to be same as heel side turns. Have someone video you then you will see in the video your toe side turns are much quicker than heel side turns, practice on make both heel and toe side turns symmetrical on green and blue runs where you have even turn shape.
At 4:38 you are wrong. The board is already twisted which means the edge should be engaging by that motion. The play is a lot more smaller than you think. I have been using stepon for three seasons and never missed strap in for 1 sec. Maybe you could try more forward lean, a stiffer boots or tighten the boa more. I found a lot of problems with single boa systems (the ankle strap on step on boots could only count as 0.5, as they are not very usefull. I have tried riding without tighten it, and I did not notice too much problem). single boa usually leaves some slack at the bottom, and as you ride, the slack slowly moves up to the ankle and shin which is some noticable play when riding.
I went F3 the other day, and it help alot. I was ablt to “S” turns again, its really iccy so I haven’t tried to edge the turn all the way. But happy with it now after changing high back to F3.
Thanks for the advice!
I love my step on. Very responsive.
Not for everyone obviously
I was at the flagship store in Tokyo today. Was ready to buy and wow, the heel lift was immense! What’s even more shocking was that the burton sales rep told me that this was normal! I will stick to my slx and cartel setup for now
You just need more practice in hot high 50s in these bindings without making excuses just ride them and you’ll become a better rider two years is still pretty new
True, that’s my plan right now. I’m not gonna stop until I figure this out. Lol
I actually changed the high back to F3 and it help alot with the “play” I was able to do carving (smear) 😅 again.
I was able to ride even with very iccy condition single digit temp, and pretty much just ice.
Looking forward to ride on a pow day to see how it really do.
Thanks for the advice man!🏂
@@KakaMikkiTrinidad you got this keep working at it !!
From what it sounds like you need to take some lessons and learn the right way if you’re smearing your turns.
Honestly man, I think you gotta work on your form. These bindings give you lots of responsiveness. I would focus on keeping your heel down while moving your knees forward and down. The bindings/step on system are not the problem …
Thanks for the advice, I’ll try that next time we out.🏂
@@KakaMikkiTrinidad Let me know if that works. I have the exact same setup as you (including the custom board!), except my boots and bindings are black in color. I love this set up honestly, it rocks. People say that the heel play is done on purpose. Thinking about the physics of this, it makes sense. Otherwise you would engage the board immediately upon beginning to lean to your toe side. And considering there is not strap and you are stuck (not strapped) to your bindings, maybe it would be TOO responsive?
@@KakaMikkiTrinidad I'm also on F3 btw, I saw other people suggesting you do that too
Thanks so much for this video, guess u regret getting it? Are you going to go back to regular
Hey.. Uhm no, lol I was able to “fix” the issue watch the other video for you to see.
I cant even imagine going back to regular binding. Love my step on now.
I got really tight back and hamstings so regular binding is not really for me.
But yeah now I can ride parks and slopes no issue, I’m still a noob in snow board but now I have the confidence to learn to ride switch and slowly I’m getting there.
I guess step on is not for everybody but slowly you can see in the slopes the more and more people are trying step ons.
Step ons are not for beginners... They are very ridged, and responsive. As for toe turns, they are the same, even if you have no bindings. Press your forward shin against boots, and rotate forward knee inward. Keep shoulder in line with board, DO NOT counter rotate, to turn.. Unless you are riding park, or steep tree runs.
I see, thanks for the advice! Will apply that for sure!💪🏾🏂
Ridged and responsive doesn’t really correlate with beginners.
Go to F3, man. I used to ride classic bindings past seasons and switched to Step-On this year (fat&old, cba strapping in!) and so far my experience with them (after 3 days out) is that they are actually bit more responsive than my original (basic entry level). Using the same board as I have (standard inserts, not channel but looking at what your bindings-to-board does, there is some extra flex as well), just upgraded to the basic Step On binding and standard Photon boots. Started at F2, went to F3 pretty immediately after 2 runs and considering going half more to be honest (was riding almost full forward lean on my basic straps, even though that is not comparable).
But yes, they do feel different to strap bidingins, that's why I am starting my wife directly on the step ons (she likes the convenience) instead of going rental/2nd hand first.
And they are softer/more flexible than strap bindings, so there is possibility on misalignment between the flex of your Step-ons and board? Ie trying to steer stiff board?
I just did yesterday, I went to max forward lean, F3, the ride was much better compared to F2.
It is more responsive and I feel like I’m more control.
Thanks for the info!
Yeah, that would be nice to start on step on right away. That’s the trick I guess. Lol
They are really responsive to the point that sometimes I would over do it and fall. Lol
Do you have a video of your set up? Let me know man.
@@KakaMikkiTrinidad No video unfortunately, not that much geeking out about snowboarding :) But glad to hear you managed to find a setting that makes them work for you!
I just got a process flying V
Can't decide whether to go with stepons
Are you still liking them over traditional
What boots and bindings ya go with
@@dsd-downshiftdave8056 I am liking them and I am sticking with them (mind you, I ride pistes intermediate), but if I were in market for easy-entry system this season, I would most likely ended up with Nidecker Supermatic Step ins - generally just because you are then not limited to few boots.
Add a little forward lean and it tightens up the play
Adjusting the high backs will help. But the amount of heel play I don’t think is normal. I have the same issues but it’s only with 1 binding. 1 binding doesn’t move or make noise and the other feels like it lifts with the boot 1/4 inch and makes noises. I’m taking back to the ski shop today for them to look at.
Let me know what they say about it.
Some said that the play comes from the channel from the board.
It seems you got it figured out with adjusting your forward lean which is great! But another reason for this is the re:flex discs that Burton uses. It allows for better board feel with less disc touching your board which you can feel the play (especially on your toe turns because your body has more leverage). This goes for any mini disc like union bindings too. I agree with you that I don't prefer this so I don't ride mini discs. I ride Now and Flow bindings. Enjoy them!!! Just get out there and ride!
Is there any remedy to this? With mini disc but still step on?
@@KakaMikkiTrinidad Unfortunately there isn't. This is just due to the nature of the binding market and companies are pushing to having increased board feel. And this has nothing to do with this being bad, everything is personal preference, some people love more board feel, but some people don't like the slightly looser feeling of the binding. It also could just be that you need to adjust to them and learn how they respond compared to traditional bindings. I have heard that on toe side turns it feels quite different due to the connection and power to lift the board on edge would come from the heal cleat area, which is higher than if you were strapped in traditional bindings, which the power would transfer through your ankle/heel strap to the heel cup and base of the binding.
This really isn't an issue with the binding it is just how it rides with the current design. Just getting use to how to get the most power is the easiest and cheapest option. But if you really wanted a convenience binding that doesn't have this "quirk" I think Flow's reclining highback and fusion strap would be the closest. If you get them setup correctly it really is almost as easy as the step ons just requires more balance and more setup to dial them in. I have the 2021/2022 Flow NX2-TM and I love them the exoframe fusion strap and slip n grip base plate make it seamless, but provides great power. This is all in my opinion and feel from riding them though.
Also, next season Nidecker is coming out with the Supermatic binding, so you could wait for those to come out --> ua-cam.com/video/QPgCWt_7ShA/v-deo.html
I haven't had the issue you are referring to. Verify your footbed is set up correctly to your boot size.
Will do! Thanks for the advice! 💪🏾🏂
Your boot seems to be pretty small in this binding. What size is your boot (and the binding)? Can you move the baseblate further back? Maybe this would make a difference.
Binding is Medium my boots is 8.5
I changed my forward lean to F3 and it make sthe ride and control much better, it even help me with my toe turn for some reason. Lol
first day on my step on i already feel the heel turn is mostly depend on ur boot stiffness, I sold the binding next day. Good binding, I just like the strap binding feeling better
I see… as of now I’m okay with the heel turn, the other day I just figured it out how to do a toe turn with this binding, I change my toe turn style a bit. I miss the strap feel as well. Lol
More than 20 years ago i had the first Burton-Step-On-System. It was good for a beginner. But for agressive carving nothing beats the response of strap-bindings. Step-Ons in my opinion not necessary. Straps closed in 5 Seconds. Leaving the lift with one-foot-off no problem and slightly turns possible. If you want Step-On, maybe CLEW (Step-In) is a solution for you.
I hav play in the threadbolts plastic it get worn, no play in the cleat area.
Just wondered if anyone read the manual that came with your step on bindings?
Well I didn’t. Until I noticed the extra heel lift on the back foot (none on the front). Then I did read the manual. And it explains it perfectly. There are two click settings on each heel. Both are safe. And it’s there because of snow pack if you don’t clear your binding footbed properly. You want to hear two clicks in the heel for each boot. In addition to a click each side for the toe. That’s 4 clicks per boot. Then you will get no heel lift. Also as people have said. Set the footbed to the correct size for the boot. And remember the sizes on the actual binding will be US on the binding. Not UK.
Keep practicing on your living room floor 😂
Thats definitely the right way to do toe turns (pushing your shins forwards into the upper part of your boots) so it’s a shame that burton’s step on bindings have this issue when you’re snowboarding properly.
I use the traditional burton bindings and i find that the heel strap really allows for the boots and the bindings to move together as one and feel very responsive.
As for your legs getting tired as a result, I would try leaning your hips forward to automatically push your shins into the boots. This will give your toeside turns more stability and cause less fatigue in your legs :)
I see, thanks for the info. 💪🏾🏂 I think I just need to get to used to it.
its normal to have play. your skill level peobably isnt there either. if there wasnt any play anywhere your legs, bindings, inserts will crack
Gotta say, I don't really get the step on system. It pigeon holes you into specific bindings and boots, gives inferior performance, and I don't even see it being more convenient than a strap binding. It only takes a few seconds to strap in.
I have a back problem and I’m really stiff, it helps alot in my case because slopes around my areas are pretty short hence I got it.
Did you adjust the baseplate for your bootsize ?
Yes, Baseplate at 8.5 currently. I’m wearing 8.5 boots.
Do you have any forward lean dialed in on the highbacks?
That play could also be related to the Burton mount channel
Yes I do, I have in F2, But after trying it for 3 times now I want to try F3. Can I ask why? Thanks!
Oh wow, I never though of the channel might be the reason for the play. 😑 do you use step on as well?
@@KakaMikkiTrinidad Yup! But with a libtech board. I'll try to take some footage later to see if I have that kind of play with the 2022 bindings
I tried to adjust the forward lean to F3 the play is much less, need to try it on slipe to see the difference.
Tag me the link of your Vid so I can see. Lol thanks!
The channel is not the reason for the play. The binding is made to have that little bit of play. It’s normal.
I noticed the play too but I rode Burton Malavitas before and I barely notice any difference. The bindings respond the same to me and the slight play is not noticable at all. Maybe it's because your technique isn't that good yet since you've only ridden for 2 seasons.
I only have an indoor slope to my disposal so I went with step ons for ease. It was tiresome to strap in every minute. On a regular mountain, step ons don't offer that much advantage.
I see… still playin around with forward lean, I changed it to F3 and it kinda did the trick. I was able to control the board more compared to when it was on F2
Hey Mikki, i have absolute the same problem with my 2021/22 burton stepOns
Hey, go to forward lean 3 F3, it help me alot. Check out mu new video an update about it after I went to F3. I know it’s frustrating as hell
@@KakaMikkiTrinidad that was the key
@@KakaMikkiTrinidad I just bought a board, what does this all mean forward lean F3?
@@dsd-downshiftdave8056 hey, so basically you can adjust the high back of your binding. The higher the number the more angle the high back hits the back of your boot. Easier to push back on your high back.
Did you adjust the high back screws?
Yes, I went to F3. It did help alot, it feels more tight/snug.
I was on F2 for like 3 day/times using the set up.
@Mikki Trinidad I think it's the break in on the boots is really hard. IWhat I did on the break in was walk the dog around the neighborhood on short walks with them cranked as hard as could stand and repeat until they start to feel better. There is also the option of getting an aftermarket liner like the Intuition but that is another $200 but it's very common in skiing to tune a pair of boots up to get them to fit right and that's what is happening with these boots because they are so stiff like a ski boot.
I have the same issue. I sold the set
I changed my forward lean to F3 and it did the trick, I was able to use the board like a regular binding. Still getting the hang of it but I’m doing S turns again. 😅 that learning curve hit me hard man
More videos!!
Shawarawt!😅
Your binding is not in the middle of the board!
Like move the binding forward towards the toe edge?
Ehhh standard bindings are way better
It’s normal
move your binding forward
Forward towards the nose? Or towards the toe edge?
@@KakaMikkiTrinidad Toe edge - there's some center discs you can use to locate the bindings on the board. This'll move the the pivot point where the bindings sit towards the back a bit.
@@randomfrequency thanks alot man!
I’m still learning how to properly dial my set up.
This will help alot! 💪🏾🏂
That’s sad
I changed high back to F3 and it made a big difference. I was able to do S turns again. Lol