I nearly bought these the other week but then I decided I didn’t need more supplies. They look fun though, I’m sure I’ll eventually get them. Seems they’re ideal for tonal studies, the portrait turned out lovely!
One thing I have been experimenting with lately is to use soft pastels as water soluble media. Not all dissolve in water quite well, but the Diane Towsend soft form pastels have beautiful shades, they dissolve really well with water, and using the right amount it will set quite well (with not a lot of transfer).
@@WatercolorElisabetta I tested different brands, papers and mediums. The Diane Towsend soft form can go on different papers, and you can dissolve them with water right on the paper. Depending on the pigment, some may take a bit more water to dissolve and set. Other soft pastels are better premixed on a palette (like the caran d’ache rugged one) with water, because lines on the paper would not disappear with water. Such is the case for sennelier and schmincke pastels. The interesting thing is that these are very pigmented and opaque applications. And pastel brands have many, many shades, so if you like one particular color, it’s fun to play this way.
I only have one PBk8 by Old Holland ….the feeling is very similar to that but thicker, more textured. The final result on paper once dry is very similar to charcoal! Much more than black watercolor! Thanks for asking is a very good question!!
They are comparable, actually. However, the final outcome is very similar to Charcoal! I was impressed. I have had a lot of fun with it without all the mess of charcoal :). Thank you and Ciao Ciao
Many hanks for this. I was very tempted by this but decided I will experiment with the tubes of PBk 8 I already owned. I've also discovered Conte pencil/crayon is water soluble and have had good results with using that as a similar medium for tonal studies. I'm not sure I need this as I own so many water-soluble charcoal, carbon and other pencils and blocks to play with.. So far I'm resisting until I've tried them all out but I'm pleased to have your review as a benchmark
@@WatercolorElisabetta Hi Elisabetta, I wasn't impressed by the water soluble charcoal pencils and blocks I have which seemed as messy as the original stuff but without its advantages . ( Ì too loathe the dust of charcoal!.) But I have found one water soluble medium that is clean in use, permanent once dry and inexpensive. This is the Art Graf Soft Carbon pencil and tailor block which are very intense, dissolve beautifully and give a similar effect to charcoal in use. I really like them.
these look like fun; I love water soluble graphite but have resisted the jumbo water soluble charcoal blocks. Real charcoal is fun for large drawings. Your Portrait looks more like the grape than the cherry? I like to paint sketch with Dan Smith and Inktense graphite colors and other water soluble earth tone products. Thanks for the review
Yes yes is the grape seeds!! I changed my mind at the last minute....you have a very good eye! Viarco ARtgraf makes watercolor sanguine and sepia....I would love to try them! Thanks for your comment.
Ne ho una della Renesans. A volte la uso in combinato con la grafite liquida, altre volte insieme agli altri acquerelli. Dici che c’è interesse su questo materiale? Forse meglio organizzare una diretta più “colorata” nel periodo delle feste 😊
The cherry pit is very brown. Also, the peach stone is more warm than neutral to me.
They are very different from each other. It’s good! But I could live just with one of them!
This looks fantastic ❤❤
This is very very kind and it warms my heart! Thank you!
I didn’t know that other brands had charcoal. I don’t see PBk8 that often.
I think Viarco for sure!
@@WatercolorElisabetta Thanks. I’ve never heard of them.
The grape seed is very beautiful.
I agree it’s my favourite!
I nearly bought these the other week but then I decided I didn’t need more supplies. They look fun though, I’m sure I’ll eventually get them. Seems they’re ideal for tonal studies, the portrait turned out lovely!
Hi Sonya!! I admit these are a lot of fun. I am sure I will use them a lot, especially the grape seeds. Have a lovely week!
One thing I have been experimenting with lately is to use soft pastels as water soluble media. Not all dissolve in water quite well, but the Diane Towsend soft form pastels have beautiful shades, they dissolve really well with water, and using the right amount it will set quite well (with not a lot of transfer).
How do you do that? Like watercolor pencil? I mean you apply pastel and then you add water directly on paper? It sounds very interesting!
@@WatercolorElisabetta I tested different brands, papers and mediums. The Diane Towsend soft form can go on different papers, and you can dissolve them with water right on the paper. Depending on the pigment, some may take a bit more water to dissolve and set.
Other soft pastels are better premixed on a palette (like the caran d’ache rugged one) with water, because lines on the paper would not disappear with water. Such is the case for sennelier and schmincke pastels. The interesting thing is that these are very pigmented and opaque applications. And pastel brands have many, many shades, so if you like one particular color, it’s fun to play this way.
@vilvile thank you for your thorough explanation!! I find this approach very innovative!
Does it feel different to work with rather than a PBk 8 watercolor?
I only have one PBk8 by Old Holland ….the feeling is very similar to that but thicker, more textured. The final result on paper once dry is very similar to charcoal! Much more than black watercolor! Thanks for asking is a very good question!!
Interesting paints. They seem comparable to my Van Gogh light oxide black and probably have a similar use.
They are comparable, actually. However, the final outcome is very similar to Charcoal! I was impressed. I have had a lot of fun with it without all the mess of charcoal :). Thank you and Ciao Ciao
Many hanks for this. I was very tempted by this but decided I will experiment with the tubes of PBk 8 I already owned. I've also discovered Conte pencil/crayon is water soluble and have had good results with using that as a similar medium for tonal studies. I'm not sure I need this as I own so many water-soluble charcoal, carbon and other pencils and blocks to play with.. So far I'm resisting until I've tried them all out but I'm pleased to have your review as a benchmark
I'm very curious about your other water soluble charcoal! Are you happy with them? Thanks for writing your comment. Take care!
@@WatercolorElisabetta Hi Elisabetta, I wasn't impressed by the water soluble charcoal pencils and blocks I have which seemed as messy as the original stuff but without its advantages . ( Ì too loathe the dust of charcoal!.) But I have found one water soluble medium that is clean in use, permanent once dry and inexpensive. This is the Art Graf Soft Carbon pencil and tailor block which are very intense, dissolve beautifully and give a similar effect to charcoal in use. I really like them.
I have the graphite tin by Viarco and I love it!
Thanks a lot for your suggestions.
these look like fun; I love water soluble graphite but have resisted the jumbo water soluble charcoal blocks. Real charcoal is fun for large drawings. Your Portrait looks more like the grape than the cherry? I like to paint sketch with Dan Smith and Inktense graphite colors and other water soluble earth tone products. Thanks for the review
Yes yes is the grape seeds!! I changed my mind at the last minute....you have a very good eye! Viarco ARtgraf makes watercolor sanguine and sepia....I would love to try them! Thanks for your comment.
A me piacciano molto!
le hai provate? anche a me sono piaciute! come le usi? (una bella diretta?)
Ne ho una della Renesans. A volte la uso in combinato con la grafite liquida, altre volte insieme agli altri acquerelli.
Dici che c’è interesse su questo materiale?
Forse meglio organizzare una diretta più “colorata” nel periodo delle feste 😊
Buon giorno cara! xoxo
Ciao Michele!!
Not first 😅 👋🏼
A solid second! 👌⭐️
@@WatercolorElisabetta 😂 Thanks!