I cannot thank you enough for this video i cried when the watch my grandfather gave me suddenly stopped clicking into place after gitting hit with a baseball i thought it wouldn't be fixed again and i started crying but I fixed it thanks to your video THANKYOU❤❤❤❤
Thank you for this video. However i dont seem to get it to work. My spring seem rather short and the bezel does not stay on for very long. Could i be missing something with my retaining spring? That its placed wrongly? Note that i have replaced the glas aswell. Best regards
Hi. The springs seem to be made to slightly different specs at different times - some are longer/shorter and some are slightly heavier/lighter gauge wire, so that shouldn't make too much difference. I would carefully check each straight section of the retaining wire and make sure it is flat. If there is an upwards bend then one of the flats may not be slipping over the flange when you fit it and when you turn the bezel is basically unzips and the bezel comes off. The other issue I have seen is that the flange on the bezel can be worn or damaged, and the affect is the same. As you turn the bezel the wire slips off at the point where the flange is worn and then the rest follows as you continue to turn the bezel. If that is the problem then the case would need to be repaired by someone who does micro-welding, or find a new case - they do come up from sale sometimes.
How can I tighten the bezel on a modern CWC SBS? My dad has one and the bezel is quite loose. Loose enough to be accidentally turned during normal wear. I had the same model and the bezel was the same.
HI, I don't deal much with the newer ones, but they have a flat metal spring instead of a wire spring. This sits on the case, with flanges that protrude downwards into holes in the case to stop it from spinning around, and then flaps of metal angled upwards which act as the ratchet springs. If these are worn or broken (it happens), or they are snot sticking up enough, then the bezel action will feel too loose. Only way to check is to remove the bezel. If the spring is broken then you would have to try and purchase a new one from CWC. If its not broken then try adjusting the ratchet springs up so they make better contact with the underside of the bezel.
So, my retaining spring came out and in no way i can place it back good enough so the bezel will hold. Very frustrating. Do you have any tips or tricks?
Step 1. Retaining spring must be completely flat. Put it on a flat surface to check. bend the spring wherever it is not flat to correct it. Keep going until it is touching the flat surface all the way around. Step 2. When it is fitted the angles of each section should touch the back of the recess into which it fits. Again, bend the spring at the angles until each of the angled bends is touching the back of the recess. It takes a bit of trial and error. Step 3.Make sure that each straight section does not project out too far from the inside of the bezel - just slightly is correct. If necessary, bend the straight sections so they sit further back (this will mean doing step 2 again...).
How to get the bezel off of the case? My bezel is turning freely and need to fix it. Tried to pry it off but there seems to be no gap to place a tool in.
You would have to cut them off and then drill the lugs to take spring bars. People do this sometimes but the fixed bars are a feature of the watch. Removing them devalues the watch and so most collectors would leave the fixed bars in place.
@@sumacwatches6149 perfect timing iv just got the watch it has a bezel insert that I can remove that holds the glass in place the only thing it looks like it’s missing is the hole at 12 o’clock
@@neal7159 May have a ratchet washer/plate instead of spring. It will be a flat circular plate with small tabs sticking up, that sits under the bezel. Replacing the bezel is the same principle though, push and twist.
With difficulty. You either spend a fortune on a very expensive bezel removal tool, like the Bergeon one - the cheap versions on Amazon tend not to work, although some people have had success with them. Generally I carefully lever them off with a stanley knife blade tapped in between the bezel and case, protected with a bit of polythene. Start between the lugs at the 6 position and as the gap opens up, work your way around and after a while it pops off.
British English. www.quora.com/Are-counterclockwise-and-anticlockwise-the-same#:~:text=%C2%B7%203y-,Is%20anti%20clockwise%20and%20counterclockwise%20the%20same%3F,is%20an%20American%20English%20term.
That could be a different video! There is a bezel removal tool which is a large set of pliers with nylon/composite inserts that is widely available, but unless you buy an absolutely top end one (Bergeon = £715 +VAT) then they are not much use against a CWC diver bezel. The most practical technique is to open up a gap by gently tapping in a thin knife blade between the case and the bezel and then widen/extend the gap with a case knife - taking extreme care not to damage the case. With lesser watches this approach could distort the bezel, which would then need to be straightened, but the Monnin-type bezel rings are pretty sturdy so this is a less of a risk. Once the gap is big enough the bezel will pop off. If you are working on an SBS then there is a risk of damaging the PVD coating, so I would say if you do not need to remove the bezel, leave it alone.
The end that has a 90 degree bend will always point away from the bezel so that it can fit into the hole in the watch case, which means that the spring can only face one way. If it keeps popping out it may need to be slightly re-shaped so that the ends fit into the slots in the underside of the bezel.
I cannot thank you enough for this video i cried when the watch my grandfather gave me suddenly stopped clicking into place after gitting hit with a baseball i thought it wouldn't be fixed again and i started crying but I fixed it thanks to your video THANKYOU❤❤❤❤
Very please to hear that! Well done for fixing it.
I have a vintage Bulova Marine Star I’m refurbishing and you saved the day. Thank you.
Hi from cwc watch fan.good video👍
Great first video Jos, I look forward to seeing the next one!!
Thank you for this video. However i dont seem to get it to work. My spring seem rather short and the bezel does not stay on for very long. Could i be missing something with my retaining spring? That its placed wrongly? Note that i have replaced the glas aswell. Best regards
Hi. The springs seem to be made to slightly different specs at different times - some are longer/shorter and some are slightly heavier/lighter gauge wire, so that shouldn't make too much difference. I would carefully check each straight section of the retaining wire and make sure it is flat. If there is an upwards bend then one of the flats may not be slipping over the flange when you fit it and when you turn the bezel is basically unzips and the bezel comes off. The other issue I have seen is that the flange on the bezel can be worn or damaged, and the affect is the same. As you turn the bezel the wire slips off at the point where the flange is worn and then the rest follows as you continue to turn the bezel. If that is the problem then the case would need to be repaired by someone who does micro-welding, or find a new case - they do come up from sale sometimes.
Very helpful thank you
Thank you for guidance..
How can I tighten the bezel on a modern CWC SBS? My dad has one and the bezel is quite loose. Loose enough to be accidentally turned during normal wear. I had the same model and the bezel was the same.
HI, I don't deal much with the newer ones, but they have a flat metal spring instead of a wire spring. This sits on the case, with flanges that protrude downwards into holes in the case to stop it from spinning around, and then flaps of metal angled upwards which act as the ratchet springs. If these are worn or broken (it happens), or they are snot sticking up enough, then the bezel action will feel too loose. Only way to check is to remove the bezel. If the spring is broken then you would have to try and purchase a new one from CWC. If its not broken then try adjusting the ratchet springs up so they make better contact with the underside of the bezel.
So, my retaining spring came out and in no way i can place it back good enough so the bezel will hold. Very frustrating. Do you have any tips or tricks?
Step 1. Retaining spring must be completely flat. Put it on a flat surface to check. bend the spring wherever it is not flat to correct it. Keep going until it is touching the flat surface all the way around. Step 2. When it is fitted the angles of each section should touch the back of the recess into which it fits. Again, bend the spring at the angles until each of the angled bends is touching the back of the recess. It takes a bit of trial and error. Step 3.Make sure that each straight section does not project out too far from the inside of the bezel - just slightly is correct. If necessary, bend the straight sections so they sit further back (this will mean doing step 2 again...).
@@sumacwatches6149 Thanks! i flattened it and with some patience, some glasses to fix my sight and some watch tools i succeeded!
@@dejongejohan Hooray! Well done.
@@sumacwatches6149 Thanks chap!
How to get the bezel off of the case? My bezel is turning freely and need to fix it. Tried to pry it off but there seems to be no gap to place a tool in.
This is so informative
Can you remove those fixed spring bars?
You would have to cut them off and then drill the lugs to take spring bars. People do this sometimes but the fixed bars are a feature of the watch. Removing them devalues the watch and so most collectors would leave the fixed bars in place.
Ola vc tem as medidas deste insert obrigado
Hey do you know if it’s possible to fit a bezel on the watch which isn’t meant to have a bezel
Not really.
@@sumacwatches6149 perfect timing iv just got the watch it has a bezel insert that I can remove that holds the glass in place the only thing it looks like it’s missing is the hole at 12 o’clock
@@neal7159 May have a ratchet washer/plate instead of spring. It will be a flat circular plate with small tabs sticking up, that sits under the bezel. Replacing the bezel is the same principle though, push and twist.
Any idea where can i get one of those springs?
Hi, sorry, didn’t see your comment. Contact me via Instagram and I can help you if you still need one.
@@sumacwatches6149 OK 👍
So how did you get it off?
With difficulty. You either spend a fortune on a very expensive bezel removal tool, like the Bergeon one - the cheap versions on Amazon tend not to work, although some people have had success with them. Generally I carefully lever them off with a stanley knife blade tapped in between the bezel and case, protected with a bit of polythene. Start between the lugs at the 6 position and as the gap opens up, work your way around and after a while it pops off.
I’m pretty sure it’s “counterclockwise” and not “anticlockwise”(?)
British English. www.quora.com/Are-counterclockwise-and-anticlockwise-the-same#:~:text=%C2%B7%203y-,Is%20anti%20clockwise%20and%20counterclockwise%20the%20same%3F,is%20an%20American%20English%20term.
@@sumacwatches6149 That’s weird. Generally us Canadians lean British English over American English.
@@j_holtslander Now you know to never question a Britbong's English.
The more intriguing question is how to remove the bezel?
That could be a different video! There is a bezel removal tool which is a large set of pliers with nylon/composite inserts that is widely available, but unless you buy an absolutely top end one (Bergeon = £715 +VAT) then they are not much use against a CWC diver bezel. The most practical technique is to open up a gap by gently tapping in a thin knife blade between the case and the bezel and then widen/extend the gap with a case knife - taking extreme care not to damage the case. With lesser watches this approach could distort the bezel, which would then need to be straightened, but the Monnin-type bezel rings are pretty sturdy so this is a less of a risk. Once the gap is big enough the bezel will pop off. If you are working on an SBS then there is a risk of damaging the PVD coating, so I would say if you do not need to remove the bezel, leave it alone.
I've got a click spring similar to this but cannot work out which way it should face.....it keeps popping out everytime I take my finger off.
The end that has a 90 degree bend will always point away from the bezel so that it can fit into the hole in the watch case, which means that the spring can only face one way. If it keeps popping out it may need to be slightly re-shaped so that the ends fit into the slots in the underside of the bezel.