Internet Trolls: What Gives? | A Conversation with Robert Fithen
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Hey Buddies! I had the pleasure of sitting down with Robert Fithen, a fellow member of the Vinyl Community, first to discuss his livelong passion for music, but then we dive into our experiences with internet trolls; namely, since we started doing UA-cam videos in the VC. Robert also has some firsthand research from his broadcast + radio background into what makes a troll, well, troll. Robert is one of the best in the VC, and I hope this conversation is relatable to any content creator or anyone with a social media presence. Spoiler alert: trolls are gonna troll, and it has next to nothing to do with you. This conversation will also be featured on Vinyl Community Podcasts (info below). Thanks for your continued support, Buddies!
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I think this turned out pretty well. Thanks for doing this. I had a cool time and as I've said before you make a great interviewer.
Really, really appreciate that, and for carving out time to share on this one. Thank you! 🙏🏻
I enjoy Robert Fithen videos, he says it how it is, very direct and honest, love his ccontent
Agreed. Been lucky to have several interactions with him. Thanks for watching!
Killer video Chance and Robert, this was very entertaining and i actually learned a lot!! Cheers to both of you 👏👏👍🤘🤘
Thank you sir! Hopefully you aren’t subjected to some of these knuckleheads. But if so, it’s definitely a “them” issue. 🤘🏻
@@ConcertBuddie yes I think everyone doing videos for long enough gets hit with them! I’ve definitely had my fair share, only a couple have gone over the line and it happened to be people who were friends of mine for years!! Odd how that happens! Since then I’ve blocked them and no longer talk to them or acknowledge them when I happen to see them! This was a great idea for a video bro!! You rock👍🤘🤘
Thanks Aaron, I always enjoy your videos with your incredible collection.
@@RobertFithen thank you Robert! I had no idea you’d seen any of my videos, although i was wondering after you made a comment about someone comparing Tusk to the White Album on one of your videos 🤣 i do agree with you there’s no comparison in the quality of those albums, i overstated the greatness of Tusk, which really doesn’t compare to maybe my number 1 album of all time,which is the White Album!! Thank you for always telling it like it is!! You rock 👍🤘🤘
Great video Chance. Roberts a fantastic bloke. I’ve just watched all of this & you're recent stream.You’ve got a real knack for interviewing, you know when to hold back which is really important. I hope you keep it up.
Couldn’t agree more on Robert. He’s one of a select few that I’m blown away with on the regular with their knowledge and recall. Then to share a convo like this…it’s why I started doing this YT thing in the 1st place. I do appreciate the kind words on my style here + the streams, thanks! I just really enjoy connecting different parts of the VC, and talking about things that (frankly + selfishly) I want to hear about. Seriously, thanks for being kind here. You rock! 🤘🏻
Interesting interview ! I watch Robert occasionally, he's a great personality, and fun to watch. Good to hear both of your backgrounds.. watching on the big TV now.. ✌️
Appreciate that, thank you sir! I really appreciated Robert coming on and sharing his POV. I think it was a great convo, and hopefully you find it the same. 🙂
@Concert Buddie Real nice chat, another fine interview by you, Chance.. and Robert.. well, he is Mr. Personality, and very engaging ! ✌️
Robert is exactly correct about the sitars on the US Help!
Very cool conversation, Robert is great and also is on a weekly show "Vinyl Community Guncles" that people should check out
Thank you for the kind words! Yes, big fan of the work over at Vinyl Community Guncles. We hosted a mini show of theirs over at Vinyl Community Podcasts (sorry, no t meant as a direct plug…but kind of is 🤣) that’s worth giving a listen with more to come down the road. Their YT stuff is always worth s watch. Appreciate you giving this a watch/listen! 🙏🏻
Trolls suck CB! I ignore them every single time!
I love Robert’s channel!❤
Thanks!!
@@RobertFithen You do a great job my man!👍
enjoyed this so much I listened to the podcast and am now watching it again
Double dipping! You are the real MVP, Harry! Means a lot 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Holy shit I did the same Robert. Every Christmas list was just al CDs lol. Then I would be mad when I got socks.... lol. My parents thought I was crazy because I so obsessed with music. Then I taught myself 11 instruments and my parents Then had to come to grips with thier son. Lol 😂
This is great. Thanks for sharing (and watching)!
You and Robert are both great. I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a small handful of people causing all of this silly drama.
Thank you! Keen observation. 🤔
Chance, this was a hilarious interview. Robert has long been a favorite of mine, one of the few VC members I actually subscribe to. Your interviews keep getting better!
Really appreciate that, thanks CP! 🙏🏻
If you’re ever getting trolled, just try to remember that these people have nothing better to do with their lives, they live in their moms basement, and have never felt the touch of a woman.
That’s one way to sum it up! 🤣
Really enjoyed this. Great conversation guys!
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I enjoy Fithen because it’s like someone has given him a good kick in the shin just before he starts talking , you can feel somethings bothering him and the pain inside is building..
I definitely appreciate his candor, even in convos offline. Thanks for watching!
Great interview Concert Buddie! Robert’s statement, at 19:50 to 20:00 in to the interview, is golden! It’s one of the most sensitive troll triggers on UA-cam.
Thank you Steve! Really appreciate you saying that and putting eyes on this one. Robert and I had been talking about connecting on this one for a minute, and I’m super glad we did! Have a great Sunday sir! ✌🏻 PS - have you figured out what you are going to do with that Coltrane promo display/tapestry? It’s pretty cool 🎷
@@ConcertBuddie You have very natural genuine interviewing skills. As for the Coltrane banner. I’m going to figure out a way to frame it with durable plexiglass or plastic so it won’t crack and hang it in our barn in New Mexico. We’re semi retiring to Taos New Mexico in 5 years and we have this cool 1,000 sqft barn that we’re going to convert into a bar/record room. It’s the perfect place such a beautiful item.
@@Cookingwithsteveg you are way too kind, but thank you sir! That sounds like an AMAZING plan for the banner. Will be a great conversation piece. 🙌
Great job guys! I used to get A LOT of trolls. It’s usually the same people under different names. I find that practice SO bizarre!
I just thank them for watching and supporting. They go away if you don’t interact. I only delete or block if they get personal. Many do. Stay well!!
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It’s funny that trolls think thumbs down is a bad thing. Its good. It shows your channel is getting traction
@@hubtunes9607 they are not the coldest beers in the fridge, if you know what I mean! 🤣
Thank you! You handle them far better than I do. For some reason I got a new troll this week and rather than follow my own advice (don’t feed the animals), I decided to engage. First as humor, but then to really let them have it. After, I just felt dumb for succumbing to that degree of nonsense. Straight to that block button going forward.
Nice conversation fellas.
I enjoy both of your content a lot. I’ve learned a lot for both of you and have had many laughs along the way.
Rock on 🤘
Appreciate that, and you, thanks!!🤘🏻
Great video Chance, Robert is good people It's time to see you in Cardinal red once in awhile. Got to represent. Go Cards. Thanks.
Challenge accepted! Cardinal cap will be coming out soon. Stay tuned! 👍🏻
The recorder was the basic musical instrument starting in the first grade... Grace Slick played it in the Jefferson Airplane's Surrealistic Pillow
Boom! Even cool people played that thing. Now younger me can appreciate that little plastic noise maker! 😁 Thanks for the 411, Mazzy!
Great advice, Robert! You’re a thick skinned, entertaining, content genius!
Hey thanks!!
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it! Hope things are good on your end. Sorry to hear about your wife’s health challenge(s). Steve Carlson gave me a heads up on the GoFundMe. 🙏🏻
Great interview & subject matter (as I sit here with my copy of Pet Sounds stored with its vinyl outside the jacket resisting the lure of lecturing Fithen on why he is wrong...😉 (but he is)).
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It's very tempting to reply to trolls, but the best way to deal with them is literally to say nothing, If no-one knocks the ball back they have nothing to kick.
Spot on. I think the human nature of (WTF?) often wins out and pushes us to engage sometimes. Thanks for watching!
I feel like people just want attention, negativity brings more attention then positivity, I feel that we see that when we see the news. It’s a shame that we live in that world and deal with it. Great video, great advice, and great interview!
Thank you sir! Had been planning this one for a hot minute. I think you said it pretty well here; the environment today definitely feeds into this innate part of the human psyche. I think the internet and the ability to be critical anonymously has made it 100x worse. Have you had any trolling on your channel yet? Hopefully not!
@@ConcertBuddie sadly I have, I woke up one morning and had a guy that commented on probably 5 of my videos. Of course not a single comment was a very nice one, was either insulting about my taste in music or choice in channel name etc, nothing constructive just negative. This person apparently had nothing but time on there hands to watch at least 5 of my videos in a row and maybe more but took the time to comment on at least 5.
@@spindoctorandhisvinylmayhem well, hopefully you know it says everything about them (and their loser tendencies) than you. I imagine they likely had no videos of their own to speak of, either. Those clowns are the worst "gatekeepers" there are.
Great insight and interesting stuff---love your channel!--Jack
Really appreciate that feedback, and you watching this one! Thank you! Have a great Sunday Jack ✌🏻
I have very few videos but one comment was troll like and I just pinned it so everyone can see the ridiculousness of it in the first comment.
Shine a light on the cockroaches. I like it! Thanks for checking those one out!
Knock On Wood, no trolls yet with me,but it sucks that people do troll, and good interview with robert!
Thanks Buddie! Thanks for your continued support sir!
As always buddy, great content. Love the “interview style” to these videos. Love Robert’s channel. I usually laugh multiple times per video. Wonder if our troll friend will show up again with a comment on this video as version 3.0??!! LOL He is still up to his trolling nonsense through his stores posts on Instagram and Facebook. Thing is, it’s all a bunch or cryptic gibberish to those who aren’t aware he is trolling us in his own posts. They just assume he’s an idiot…and they would be correct. Have a good one my man!
Thanks man, always appreciate you giving my videos a look! 🙏🏻 As for our friend, my analytics on this video suggest that’s he’s aware of it; his regular/token “down” vote each Monday is already on it. Whether he actually watched it or not, dunno. But what “Tha” big genius doesn’t understand is that disliking my videos each Monday is actually a GOOD thing to UA-cam (engagement). Trolls: also not the sharpest tools in the shed! PS - Hope Bruce was legendary!
Great conversation, loved it
Appreciate that Felipe, thank you!
Great video Chance. You know these people would ever have the balls to talk to you like that in front of your face. Yet they hide like cowards behind a computer screen and figure they can say whatever they want. If it gets to the point where it's threatening, you can always get the police involved. Do you remember the days of crank calls on the phone? Well telephone technology and call display took care of that. That's a thing of the past now. Now if internet service could come up with something like that and make it transparent who was actually making these comments. It might put an end to trolling.
Totally spot on! “Keyboard courage” is a product of the times. Probably started back with those crank calls back in the day, but it’s gotten even more personal, more cowardly, that it’s sometimes hard to believe the stuff these fools. Like you said, hopefully the technology catches up here, like it did to telephone tough guys. Thanks for watching! Really all decide it 😁
I think another factor in trolling is that people can hide on the Internet and say things they would never have the balls to say in real life. I’ve even been guilty of it a little so I try to keep myself in check.😉
Very, very true. The anonymity can give a false sense of security. I've been known to take down a comment or two after a knee-jerk response (heavy on the "jerk" part). Thanks for checking this out!
I've made it a point to completely ignore trolls since the days of the first internet groups. I have defended myself a time or two with only one reply, well thought out and final, and of course that opened the floodgate to the troll. But then I just kind of laughed and watched how angry they got when they couldn't get a reply back. This was in the usernet days and of course in early email groups. I just have the attitude that I don't care if somebody is going to be insulting or derogatory to me. It's not going to phase me. And now that we can even delete those types of posts or block the troll altogether, it makes it a lot easier to not have other people joining in and those and commenting on those troll posts. I don't know what it is about those types of people but they feed off of the controversy and the replies. So if you don't feed them, they'll move on :-)
I enjoy Robert's channel and I really like his attitude and videos. I enjoy both of your channels and definitely try to keep up with Chance and Robert.
Keep up the good work guys!
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Brian in Fort Worth 🎶
Thanks Brian! Your outlook is just what I needed to hear, thank you. Odd timing, but I got a new troll this week that rather than ignore from the jump, I chose to engage with, and ultimately regretted it; not for what I said, but because I went down to that loser level on their field. Block, block, block from here on out. Have a great Sunday sir!
@@ConcertBuddie Yeah unfortunately I don't think they ever completely go away. Just don't let them discourage you at all. It is kind of tough sometimes when it's a personal insult to just ignore a comment. You might even think what will I look like if I don't reply? But in the long run, I think people look better not biting. Most of the time (I believe or think) it is the best thing to do and just forget about the trolls. It's just a sad fact there's always going to be some thug out there that enjoys ruffling people's feathers and trying to engage them in a verbal or online argument. But they do get bored when nobody pays them any attention and they move on... Usually anyway haha :-)
Hope you're having a great Sunday as well Chance!
@@Bootradr You rock! Thanks bro
I have learned how to troll the trolls. Only every so often when im really bored. And sometimes i truly believe some of these people are paid by their respective causes. Whether its political or representation of the band or team they are supporting. That one Arizona politician was accused of paying trolls to defend the magas position. I truly believe it. Some of these trolls dont know how to handle it when someone comes back at them. One guy who kept trolling me because i wasnt a fan of a certain head coach. Kept calling me a crybaby etc. I got into my burner account.Starting trolling him back. Told him he needs to get rid of the Tommy Smothers hair cut. And told him i was sorry his wife left him and his kids dont talk to him anymore. And wanted to give him a big group hug. He lost his mind and had choice words and he was kicked off the page we were on. My guess is i hit home about the state of where he really was. Lol
It is wild to see the more fervent trolls get it back in their direction. I’ve seen some of this lately in our goofy little Vinyl Community and have been fascinated watching the exchanges.
Thanks for stopping by to check out this chat!
Haha great chat guys!!!
Thank ya, thank ya!
@@ConcertBuddie I was going to say Roberts mom was a wh__e but that’s been done🤣
@@primeanalogrecords well I had a troll this week who's best attack on me was calling me "Chubby". Trolls are really, really creative with their burns LOL
@@ConcertBuddie I got "Fithy" with a trolling comment last month. So, they took the "en" off of my name and added a "y". Sick burn! lol
@@RobertFithen “Fithy” 🤣. Well I was generously nicknamed “Chubby” by a new troll this week. Nice to meet you! Guys these heroes really lean in on “y” nicknames. 🤦🏻♂️
I played a recorder. I don’t know if I have ever had a troll. If I have then I am too naive to even notice. I have some people that give a snarky comment which cracks me up so I have fun with them. I guess I have been lucky. Maybe it would make people sad to be mean to me lol
Recorders good. Trolls bad. I can totally see how you’ve not been privy to these anonymous keyboard gangsters because what could they attack you on? Your sweet music finds? Nope. Kat? No way. You are truly the best of us my friend. If the day ever comes that one of these clowns come after you, we riot. 👊🏻
My fav You Tuber is Bald and Bankrupt. He doesn't have an opening sequence. He doesn't ask you to sub. He doesn't ask you share the video. He doesn't ask you to like the video. he doesn't place ads or sponsor stuff. He just provides content. Other You Tubers spend an entire video to complain about viewer behaviour is just pathetic little children who got their feeling hurt because somebody pushed back on the direction they pushed culture with their content.
Happy Holidays ✌🏻
That's strange that somebody would bring up Roberts while they are complaining about why they don't have very many people watching their own videos..lol I don't think I've ever ever once complained about the fact but I don't have as many subs as I'd like or get as many views... To me what people do that it seems like they're begging for recognition or attention.
Robert said it best - the actions of a troll is all about them, and not about you (the video maker). I try to remind myself of that, but lately I’ve made some new troll acquaintances. 🤦🏻♂️
Fithen operates w/ the presumption that if he doesn't like an artist's work, it must be crap or without artistic merit. His ignorant declarations regarding Trout Mask Replica firmly establish him as a poorly informed embodiment of the Dunning Kruger effect.
Thanks for watching + sharing your thoughts here. As he’s worked in broadcasting/media for a long time, and likely that has shaped much of his tastes/pov, I do not feel he is anything close to that Dunning/Kruger effect. Taste is a personal choice, and disagreeing is completely ok; I know firsthand he likes things I don’t, and vice versa, and I’ve never gotten the impression he frowns upon such a difference of opinion. I’d be curious your thoughts on the focus of the piece here: trolls. What say you?
@@ConcertBuddie my comment was limited to Fithen's smug dismissal of the Trout Mask Replica album in one of his UA-cam clips. If he learned to play any of the compositions on the album or bothered to competently absorb them, he'd be a better informed talking head, (and maybe less inclined to advertise his ignorance). I'd venture to say that Fithen wouldn't know Dali's Car from Pachuco Cadaver, or be able to anticipate what's coming next instrumentally in any given section of the album. It has a vocabulary that he isn't familiar with, and his weak brained default is an I don't get it, (or I don't like it) so it sucks. Failing to recognize the limits of what you actually understand and basically being too dumb to know how dumb you are has Dunning/Kruger written all over it.
@@bakeone4406 ok. Have a good weekend ✌🏻