Love large scale, but they did it again, same as last lasernut. Making a larger scale vehicle than the components are built for. Saving six bucks on a motor fan for that enclosed motor is ridiculous. Funny you point out the dogbones. Metal RC managed to shear one at the dogbone pin insert with very light bashing. Might be cheap metal. Always impressed with your teardowns.
They should’ve put THIS drivetrain in the 1/10 scale Lasernut. It’s pretty much a 1/8th scale vehicle anyways, so these internals being from the eight would’ve been perfect. They knew what they were doing😂
The review we’ve all been waiting for 🤘 Picked up the 8 Truggy last week and DAMN this thing is way bigger than the Buggy. Can’t wait to try the Truggy on the track but first impressions are pretty good. The shocks on both versions are really, really smooth for an RTR. Only issue I’ve had is sometimes the servo cuts out on the Truggy, had a butt clenching moment when it almost hit a neighbors car 😂 I am very disappointed at how shallow the wheel hexes are on the Super, that was like the number one complaint on the 10 scale!
I'd say the hexes are normal size for 17 mm. Unless there's something weird going on I don't think there's going to be an actual problem with them. The wheels are pretty big but they're not really any heavier than most other large 1/8 scale 17 mm wheels.
@@DoRCthey don’t look very deep when you flipped the wheel over especially for a 6S car. I want to see at least 3/8 or half inch of hex inside the wheel. The 10 scale would strip hexes constantly if you didn’t torque and loctite them after every run
Thanks for showing us the Super Lasernut. It really was nice how well you cover it. Losi really did a great job on the body panels and cage. As for the drive train, it's lacking durability from all the videos I've seen. I do own a couple of 1/10 scale Lasernuts and I really enjoy driving them. So far I haven't bashed either that hard and haven't had any issues so far. They don't seem to jump that well but they sure get over rough terrain like weeds and rocks at a decent speed.
If you haven't had any problem with the 1/10 scale version you probably won't have any problem with this either. As long as it stays on its wheels for the most part it'll probably be fine. Unfortunately if you look at the marketing it isn't marketed as a just flat level ground stay on its wheels kind of vehicle and it's durability does not match what they're showing in the videos as far as I'm concerned
@@DoRC Thanks .... Your the first person who had any words of encouragement. You'll probably laugh but my though is to drive it to scale. If it's 1/10 scale and your doing 40mph then a full size Lasernut if you multiplied by 10 would me 400mph. A 30 foot jump would be 300 ft. If you consider scale. Advertising is always deceptive. They probably used 3 cars to complete the video. who knows ...
Absolutely. There are going to be people that are happy with this car. It's not like it's made out of glass like that I just think that most people who are in the hobby these days that buy something which purports to be a basher will probably end up bashing this thing beyond its limits. You don't sound like you would have that problem. If youre bashing scale you'll probably be fine.
@@rrrccc1571 I thought they were a set of common tires from looking a lot alike. This does have a thinner nose piece being the biggest difference I noticed. I do want to see them side by side though.
This is targeted towards a specific group that like this type of “Hybrid” for lack of a better word, and doesnt mind spending 800 bucks….looks cool but as someone said in the comments 1/10 is definitely much more versatile Great vid ! And yes 8s and beefier parts will wake this badboy up…. 800 plus 2-300 bucks in extras….save it and buy an xmaxx or Kr8ton 1/5
For sure though I will say that any modern basher especially one that sells for $800 needs to be able to handle at least modest bashing and so far this one hasn't been able to. I've got a couple fixes and I'm going to try it again in the next video so stay tuned!
It really sucks that such a nice vehicle that is so expensive would break down so easy, just because the company decides to use cheap parts to saving a few dollars. Someone that buys this car would have to install upgrades in order to have a great bash session. As always, awesome video and keep bringing those teardown videos, they really help us see whats inside before we buy. PS- I also hate 1.5mm screws for rc cars, they need to leave those screws for my fpv racing drones.
awesome vid. i hate when you lose footage. On the positive note. just means that you get to bash some more. it's the good stuff that is frustrating to lose. lol. Can't wait to see the power house added to the lazynut. Have Fun
Yeah I think as long as you understand that it's going to have durability limitations it'll probably be pretty fun. I'm not sure though as I broke it like three times in a minute and a half a bashing
I remember that’s exactly what I thought about the first version but I’m not falling for it a second time it was by far the worst RC I’ve ever owned it’s a money pit lemon that is a shelf Queen it continued to break over & over. Mind you I paid over $500 for it. Mark my words you will not be happy with it.
I made one of these out of the 8th scale buggy chassis and the FTX DB8 body. Runs amazing! Just not as visually impressive because it is smaller but doesn’t break stuff😂
Cool tear down. I think your idea of "bashing " in this specific video and your other vids is quite different... I understand there were early failures, but I wanna see Omni Terminator levels of BASHING on this LazerNutjob
About what I expected coming from Losi. They make amazing scale trucks (Hammer Rey is a great example) but they aren’t big time bashers. I’m sure with some aluminum braces it will do fine with mild jumps and ripping around 👍
Agreed on all points, the scale is incredible and looks great, but they’re intended to be driven like their 1:1 counterparts. There’s a guy on UA-cam (forget his channel name) who runs a lot of their vehicles in a very realistic way, specifically the Hammer Rey, and the realism is very evident, just gotta run it a little easier.
To add to that (hadn’t finished the video yet) the surface he runs on in this video is ideal IMO. Just wavy bumpy sand dunes (relative to the vehicle), it’s perfect for this car.
Yeah that's kind of why I ran it there. I figured this would give it the best chance of surviving and still at least make me feel a little bit like I was bashing. Unfortunately I still had problems. We're going to try to redeem it in the next video though
@@DoRC there was another video of this car a few days back and he also broke a rear dogbone (although yours just popped out). He was also running on gravel so I figured a rock got stuck in the outdrive but seeing two issues now..
Although I know the 1/10 scale version has a lot of durability issues, I feel like that truck is more "scale" accurate than the larger 1/8 scale truck.
Lol. I'm not too worried about the lipos. The motor should always be the limiting factor and it's going to handle just so much. We'll see how it does on 8S though :-)
Sounds like they did the no testing before release like the first lasernut. I had many issues out the box. I think they will slowly update parts as we bash these in the real world. Either way im getting one next yr since the original handled city bashing until I crashed into cement @ 40mph.
@DoRC I'm going small scale for now like the grom line. I'm constantly running out of parks I can safely bash around with larger rigs. I need to move out of this city for many reasons and my hobby is definitely one.
Looks designed to break parts. Drivetrain too weak and small for platform. That's sad. Nice job on the No Cry screwdriver. Bought one, modded it, and has the perfect light torque touch. Excellent recommendation, excellent mod. Thank you! I didn't know anyone sold a capable $40 driver that also has torque control.
They couldn't make the radio box waterproof because Traxxas patented having a radio box with a gasket and then sues anyone who does it. The Arrma Nero was one such example
Yeah I'm going to try to land it nicely as I am almost certain this won't handle a bad landing but it'll be interesting to see if it handles a good landing.
Very interested in seeing you abuse this thing. I really like the look of it but am concerned about the drivetrain. To me a buggy like this but not weighting 30lbs like a DBXL is really interesting.
Yeah I'm a little worried so far. I've got a couple of fixes I'm going to do and we'll give it another shot in the next video but I'm not super confident about it.
I don't understand why Losi makes fragile drivelines when they have immediate access to their Horizon Hobby partner in Arrma. I had a Tenacity DB Pro and absolutely loved the design, but could not stand that it constant ate differentials and other driveline components. After breaking it almost every outing (not extreme bashing), I gave up and got an Arrma Mojave EXB and I have never broken any of the mechanical components. This Lasernut looks awesome, but I'm done with fragile RCs. Put this body on the Mojave chassis and you have a guaranteed winner.
Not sure. They obviously have access to the stuff as evidenced by the NASCAR Grom but maybe horizon doesn't want there to be too much overlap like that as the brands would become competition for each other which wouldn't be good for horizon
My Fireteam feels heavier than my Mojave. I've not put them on a scale but I think the Fireteam weight is around 14-15 pounds. It's very similar to the Mojave but with bigger tires and the extra handbrake servo and stuff. The body is quite heavy also.
You're right. The fire team weighs 13.7 lb. I thought the Mojave was heavier for some reason. This is still significantly heavier than either one of them though.
The optional spektrum servos are 1/5 sized. The s905 is 1/6 sized. That servo and the one that comes in the Blackjack 42 are the only servos that fit that mount. That’s a deal breaker for me. S905 is slow and sloppy. Not a fan.
Ah ok. I thought the new ones for the 8S trucks were the same size but I don't have any actual experience with them. That is a bummer. I'm sure someone will come up with and aftermarket option but seems kind of shortsighted
Again with the lazy wire management from Losi. Ever since my Super Baja Rey that I bought brand new the wires for the lights were cut from the poor application of the zip ties
This one's not too bad or they do have some nice cable management on the chassis itself but given that you really do need to take the body off to do any major work to the car I think a single disconnect at the back of the chassis would have been a great addition.
The large plastic ones that you see externally are. They aren't connected to each other side to side. The real sway bars are just standard ones that you would see on most RC cars.
i just.... don't get it. fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice... like. WHO at Losi is so goddamned stupid? i'm sorry, but there's no other word to describe it. because why otherwise go out of your way to ruin your name... again? just.. too many problems 1) as a shock to no one, undersized drivetrain/chassis. just like with the previous one, which was a 1/8th car in a 1/10th chassis, they put a 1/6th on a 1/8th chassis. and things break! shocking, i know! 2) what is it with Losi and their fetish for fake swaybars? it's a huge, expensive car, put in a real one! 3) IF they do another Lasernut, please, for the love of god, PUT IT ON PORTALS! sad how they go out of their way to make it look scale, but don't do the most important part of making it a scale U4 car like the real thing next to it in promotional videos: portals 4) continuing from 3): use actual beadlocks and make them aluminium for a bit of weight [needed for CoG tuning due to portals] and speaking of 3), why is it that no big brand does portals for independent suspension cars? the Chinese boutique brands seem to care much MUCH more about actual rock racer realism than all the american big brands combined. sadness question: what's with the super 'squirrelly' wheels? particularly while steering. i haven't seen a single SuperLasernut video where they didn't look like they were on the verge of flying out, or as if they were very poorly assembled beadlocks i'm just sad. so supremely, incredibly, sad and disappointed. realistically, i have no place to run or even store this behemoth, but being a huge U4/KoH fan, i would've made some sacrifices to own this thing if it performed and went a bit beyond fake exhausts for scale realism... but this? this is frankly insulting :( :( :( :( :( [and considering it's the same crap as the predecessor, but bigger and more expensive, there's next to 0 chance of the aftermarket fixing even half of the huge problems with this thing, because it will be so unpopular :(]
All hex screws under 4mm are crap, and when they strip, which they will, you can`t just use something else. Small scale hex is trash, whereas philips work in all sizes and you can use different size drivers or even a flathead driver. Reviewers going "oh and it has hex now" need to stfu, because when I look at small hex screws, all I see is problems..
I wouldn't say under 4 mm. I have very few problems with anything down to 2 mm. The 1.5 can definitely be problematic though. If you're having problems with smaller screws it's possible your tools are partially to blame. Especially at smaller sizes the accuracy and strength of the bits plays a big role in whether or not a screw will strip out.
Same here . I noticed the thicker grass will wear down and lay flat eventually and wear in a path . I was tearing my yard up so lately I ve found some spots next to tree lines where the grass is thinner . I put the reccomended arrma wide kit on the granite and the aluminum shock mounts that bring the shock out a little bit and it has made for more sticky landings . My k6s rear end still bounces though . I can live with it .
@Hungrybird474 The biggest issue I have with tall grass is electronics overheating. Tall grass is pretty much the highest friction surface you can bash on
Such a good looking buggy. I'm guessing the choice of going with an XXL 1/8 platform, similar to the reason why then went with a XXL 1/10 for the previous smaller Lasernut is to maintain the scale appearance. In both cases using more appropriately sized and robust components would make it look like a thick, chunkier version of the prototype. An RC that is meant to be driven in the same manner as the real thing, where failure would be experienced when driven beyond the capabilities of the real Lasernut. Question is can it hold up to that light bashing? I got the impression that the smaller Losi Lasernut didn't even do that, I thought this one might, but that popped dogbone does raise concerns. At least no parts were broken...one component just disassembled itself. Either way I think you reasonably max out a chassis for typical RC use at the XL size, such as a DB Pro or Baja Rey on a 1/10 platform; or Mojave, Fireteam, or Big Rock on a 1/8 platform.
Yeah that's entirely possible. So far the answer to whether or not it can handle light bashing is no but I'm going to give it a second chance on 6S before I go to 8S in the next video and I've got a few tweaks I'm going to make to give it the best chance of success.
Love large scale, but they did it again, same as last lasernut. Making a larger scale vehicle than the components are built for.
Saving six bucks on a motor fan for that enclosed motor is ridiculous.
Funny you point out the dogbones. Metal RC managed to shear one at the dogbone pin insert with very light bashing. Might be cheap metal.
Always impressed with your teardowns.
Yeah I've seen quite a few breakages so far from other people. I expect it to be pretty common.
Love your tear downs, even taking apart the servo and poking around in the gears, only to lose the footage lol but still, that’s serious dedication!
Well to be honest I'd be doing it even if I wasn't recording it so I'm happy to share it with you guys :-)
They should’ve put THIS drivetrain in the 1/10 scale Lasernut. It’s pretty much a 1/8th scale vehicle anyways, so these internals being from the eight would’ve been perfect. They knew what they were doing😂
This might be a little overkill for the 110th scale but I think it's underkill for this. Hopefully we'll find out in the next video for sure
The review we’ve all been waiting for 🤘
Picked up the 8 Truggy last week and DAMN this thing is way bigger than the Buggy. Can’t wait to try the Truggy on the track but first impressions are pretty good. The shocks on both versions are really, really smooth for an RTR. Only issue I’ve had is sometimes the servo cuts out on the Truggy, had a butt clenching moment when it almost hit a neighbors car 😂
I am very disappointed at how shallow the wheel hexes are on the Super, that was like the number one complaint on the 10 scale!
I'd say the hexes are normal size for 17 mm. Unless there's something weird going on I don't think there's going to be an actual problem with them. The wheels are pretty big but they're not really any heavier than most other large 1/8 scale 17 mm wheels.
@@DoRCthey don’t look very deep when you flipped the wheel over especially for a 6S car. I want to see at least 3/8 or half inch of hex inside the wheel. The 10 scale would strip hexes constantly if you didn’t torque and loctite them after every run
Loving the in depth reviews, where you show the differences etc
Thanks be sure to check my latest video!
@@DoRC already watching
@@calebrosenhauch4296 :)
Thank u for this review, u just saved me 800 bucks
You're welcome!
Awesome another excellent teardown and review
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Thanks for showing us the Super Lasernut. It really was nice how well you cover it. Losi really did a great job on the body panels and cage. As for the drive train, it's lacking durability from all the videos I've seen. I do own a couple of 1/10 scale Lasernuts and I really enjoy driving them. So far I haven't bashed either that hard and haven't had any issues so far. They don't seem to jump that well but they sure get over rough terrain like weeds and rocks at a decent speed.
If you haven't had any problem with the 1/10 scale version you probably won't have any problem with this either. As long as it stays on its wheels for the most part it'll probably be fine. Unfortunately if you look at the marketing it isn't marketed as a just flat level ground stay on its wheels kind of vehicle and it's durability does not match what they're showing in the videos as far as I'm concerned
@@DoRC Thanks .... Your the first person who had any words of encouragement. You'll probably laugh but my though is to drive it to scale. If it's 1/10 scale and your doing 40mph then a full size Lasernut if you multiplied by 10 would me 400mph. A 30 foot jump would be 300 ft. If you consider scale. Advertising is always deceptive. They probably used 3 cars to complete the video. who knows ...
Absolutely. There are going to be people that are happy with this car. It's not like it's made out of glass like that I just think that most people who are in the hobby these days that buy something which purports to be a basher will probably end up bashing this thing beyond its limits. You don't sound like you would have that problem. If youre bashing scale you'll probably be fine.
Great review! I am a sucker for that style of buggy. Wish the Fireteam looked more like this.
That would be cool. I wish this was as durable as the fire team
@@rrrccc1571 I thought they were a set of common tires from looking a lot alike. This does have a thinner nose piece being the biggest difference I noticed. I do want to see them side by side though.
@boduke9428 The general shape is fairly similar and you could probably make the fire team look more like this with just a redesign of the livery.
This is targeted towards a specific group that like this type of “Hybrid” for lack of a better word, and doesnt mind spending 800 bucks….looks cool but as someone said in the comments 1/10 is definitely much more versatile
Great vid !
And yes 8s and beefier parts will wake this badboy up….
800 plus 2-300 bucks in extras….save it and buy an xmaxx or Kr8ton 1/5
For sure though I will say that any modern basher especially one that sells for $800 needs to be able to handle at least modest bashing and so far this one hasn't been able to. I've got a couple fixes and I'm going to try it again in the next video so stay tuned!
It really sucks that such a nice vehicle that is so expensive would break down so easy, just because the company decides to use cheap parts to saving a few dollars. Someone that buys this car would have to install upgrades in order to have a great bash session. As always, awesome video and keep bringing those teardown videos, they really help us see whats inside before we buy.
PS- I also hate 1.5mm screws for rc cars, they need to leave those screws for my fpv racing drones.
I don't really mind 1.5 mm screws in really small cars but the groms prove that even in a mini they aren't necessary.
i can't wait to try out the aesthetically useful fire extinguisher. 😂 great episode. familiar presentation is kinda a big thing. you do it well!
Hopefully I won't have to :-)
Great vid as always😘😘♥️
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awesome vid. i hate when you lose footage. On the positive note. just means that you get to bash some more. it's the good stuff that is frustrating to lose. lol. Can't wait to see the power house added to the lazynut. Have Fun
Yeah unfortunately that wasn't too big of a deal. I've lost some pretty important footage in the past.
I want one of these so bad, they look so good
Yeah I think as long as you understand that it's going to have durability limitations it'll probably be pretty fun. I'm not sure though as I broke it like three times in a minute and a half a bashing
for 800 bucks you have better options tbh
I remember that’s exactly what I thought about the first version but I’m not falling for it a second time it was by far the worst RC I’ve ever owned it’s a money pit lemon that is a shelf Queen it continued to break over & over. Mind you I paid over $500 for it. Mark my words you will not be happy with it.
Hey man this music you used during the bashing has really heavy 2014 NCS vibes😂
:)
The fact a 4s LiPo is recommended in an 800$ 1/6th scale (non-crawler) truck is a gosh darn shame.
Yeah:(
I made one of these out of the 8th scale buggy chassis and the FTX DB8 body. Runs amazing! Just not as visually impressive because it is smaller but doesn’t break stuff😂
That sounds a lot more appropriate.
Looks fricn awesome 🔥
It is a beautiful RC!
Makes me love my Fireteam even more! :)
The fire team is definitely more durable. I think this one looks better but fireteam bashes better for sure
Looking forward to the update video!
It's out now!
Great review 👍🏻
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Awesome channel . Most will agree 👍 I m certain .
Thanks man Glad you enjoyed :-)
The 1/10 version broke a lot so this version is a no go. Too bad I love losi products. Thanks for the awesome review
Yeah I was hoping this would be different but they seem to have made a lot of the same mistakes.
Cool tear down. I think your idea of "bashing " in this specific video and your other vids is quite different...
I understand there were early failures, but I wanna see Omni Terminator levels of BASHING on this LazerNutjob
Yeah unfortunately it doesn't look like that's going to happen. Check my latest video.
Hope it’s more durable than the 1/10th ish version! I’ve had to replace a Chassis on it! I wasn’t even bashing on it!
Check out my latest video
I want one of these for Christmas maybe,,,and yes please do the complete tear down 🫵👍👍
Stay tuned :-)
Good job.😎
Thanks for watching!
About what I expected coming from Losi. They make amazing scale trucks (Hammer Rey is a great example) but they aren’t big time bashers. I’m sure with some aluminum braces it will do fine with mild jumps and ripping around 👍
Agreed on all points, the scale is incredible and looks great, but they’re intended to be driven like their 1:1 counterparts.
There’s a guy on UA-cam (forget his channel name) who runs a lot of their vehicles in a very realistic way, specifically the Hammer Rey, and the realism is very evident, just gotta run it a little easier.
To add to that (hadn’t finished the video yet) the surface he runs on in this video is ideal IMO. Just wavy bumpy sand dunes (relative to the vehicle), it’s perfect for this car.
Yeah that's kind of why I ran it there. I figured this would give it the best chance of surviving and still at least make me feel a little bit like I was bashing. Unfortunately I still had problems. We're going to try to redeem it in the next video though
@@DoRC there was another video of this car a few days back and he also broke a rear dogbone (although yours just popped out). He was also running on gravel so I figured a rock got stuck in the outdrive but seeing two issues now..
@@GeddyRC Yeah nothing's actually broken yet but I'm sure it will
Super cool🔥🔥
It's definitely good looking
Although I know the 1/10 scale version has a lot of durability issues, I feel like that truck is more "scale" accurate than the larger 1/8 scale truck.
This thing looks awesome I'm just not sure it's going to be durable
Best Lipo cooker on the market atm
Lol. I'm not too worried about the lipos. The motor should always be the limiting factor and it's going to handle just so much. We'll see how it does on 8S though :-)
b4 this vid I was 'bout to order one today. Now? Not so sure… 😕
Wait till my next video at least. I'm going to try to bash it again on 6S and see how it goes before going to 8s
👍🏽good video
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is the 4s kraton good?
Yes it's a very good truck especially the 2.5 revision
I dont know between vorteks or kraton
Nice but a bit pricey. It looks rugged. But amanzon. Wants 4 plus. Love the body style
The one in the video is actually $800.
I think weighed my Big Rock at a little over 16lbs, with 2x 3S batteries.
Yeah this is significantly heavier than that.
Sounds like they did the no testing before release like the first lasernut. I had many issues out the box. I think they will slowly update parts as we bash these in the real world. Either way im getting one next yr since the original handled city bashing until I crashed into cement @ 40mph.
Yeah I was pretty skeptical about this platform and I'm afraid my skepticism is proving to be valid
@DoRC I'm going small scale for now like the grom line. I'm constantly running out of parks I can safely bash around with larger rigs. I need to move out of this city for many reasons and my hobby is definitely one.
Looks designed to break parts. Drivetrain too weak and small for platform.
That's sad.
Nice job on the No Cry screwdriver. Bought one, modded it, and has the perfect light torque touch.
Excellent recommendation, excellent mod. Thank you! I didn't know anyone sold a capable $40 driver that also has torque control.
Glad you also like the driver! I've got three of them now and keep them in rotation. There are very few fasteners that driver can't handle!
Every hobby shop I've walked into the past five years has each said the same thing: never buy the Lasernut.
Yeah I was hoping this one would be different
Same here, i have been. Told as well, glad i don’t like the way it looks, as well. Glad i saved my money 😉👍🏽💯 great video brother
They couldn't make the radio box waterproof because Traxxas patented having a radio box with a gasket and then sues anyone who does it. The Arrma Nero was one such example
Yep. I have a video I made a couple weeks ago on the exact topic
@@DoRC makes me wonder exactly how much damage they've done to the hobby by suppressing any competition and annexing public designs as their own 🤔
I think you will see how good is and what is the bad thing at the same time. I will say not bad rc but the weight will always makes some problems
Yeah weight is always a problem but it's not like how much this thing weighs as a surprise to the people that built it.
Breakdown please😊
Stay tuned!
Yeah Straight!!!
Check my latest video :-)
@@DoRC indeed!!!
It’s does look really good. Deff not a ramp jumper. I say 3 jumps
Yeah I'm going to try to land it nicely as I am almost certain this won't handle a bad landing but it'll be interesting to see if it handles a good landing.
Very interested in seeing you abuse this thing. I really like the look of it but am concerned about the drivetrain. To me a buggy like this but not weighting 30lbs like a DBXL is really interesting.
Take a look at my latest video. Unfortunately I don't think this thing's up to being abused
Hmmmmm.... I don't know about this one.!
Yeah I don't either.
Yeah that’s it. That’s all you have to do. Real easy, super easy fella. 🥴😵💫🤨right.
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Damn even came with action figures where was this when we were playimg with GI Joes
Yeah you have to cut the GI Joe's in half for them to fit but it's still pretty cool :-)
So Losi drops a laser nut, rtr buggy and truggy. Dammit man
Yep!
@@DoRC this ain't good for my wallet or the space I have left lol
One more time Losi disappointing!! Thanks for the review
Yeah I'm a little worried so far. I've got a couple of fixes I'm going to do and we'll give it another shot in the next video but I'm not super confident about it.
I don't understand why Losi makes fragile drivelines when they have immediate access to their Horizon Hobby partner in Arrma. I had a Tenacity DB Pro and absolutely loved the design, but could not stand that it constant ate differentials and other driveline components. After breaking it almost every outing (not extreme bashing), I gave up and got an Arrma Mojave EXB and I have never broken any of the mechanical components. This Lasernut looks awesome, but I'm done with fragile RCs. Put this body on the Mojave chassis and you have a guaranteed winner.
Not sure. They obviously have access to the stuff as evidenced by the NASCAR Grom but maybe horizon doesn't want there to be too much overlap like that as the brands would become competition for each other which wouldn't be good for horizon
My Fireteam feels heavier than my Mojave. I've not put them on a scale but I think the Fireteam weight is around 14-15 pounds. It's very similar to the Mojave but with bigger tires and the extra handbrake servo and stuff. The body is quite heavy also.
You're right. The fire team weighs 13.7 lb. I thought the Mojave was heavier for some reason. This is still significantly heavier than either one of them though.
Duke they list specs online, no need to weigh it
@JT-np1op ah. The weight wasn't listed when it first came out. Interesting how their weight came out a couple pounds above mine.
@@JT-np1opyeah, I was just thinking rtr weight but I guess it's moot since they'll both have batteries.
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The optional spektrum servos are 1/5 sized. The s905 is 1/6 sized. That servo and the one that comes in the Blackjack 42 are the only servos that fit that mount.
That’s a deal breaker for me. S905 is slow and sloppy. Not a fan.
Ah ok. I thought the new ones for the 8S trucks were the same size but I don't have any actual experience with them. That is a bummer. I'm sure someone will come up with and aftermarket option but seems kind of shortsighted
@@DoRC the new S6510 that comes in the 8S Arrma trucks now is a 1/5 size so it’s bigger than the s905 (I’ve had a few of each)
@PigglyWigglyDeluxe gotcha.
Fantastic review love your content can you make a comparison between the zd racing dbx 07 and this lozi?
I'd love to but I don't have a DBX07.
They need to make a
Mojave 1/6 scale or 1/5 scale arrma is my face
Brand I’d love to try
This but I’m a basher I’d be breaking to fast
Yeah check my latest video. If you're serious basher I don't think it's going to hold up.
If only the wife was as impressed by 3 inches. Gonna have to tell her that it’s one of the longest in the hobby 😁
Lol
Again with the lazy wire management from Losi. Ever since my Super Baja Rey that I bought brand new the wires for the lights were cut from the poor application of the zip ties
This one's not too bad or they do have some nice cable management on the chassis itself but given that you really do need to take the body off to do any major work to the car I think a single disconnect at the back of the chassis would have been a great addition.
Sad, losi could just easily make this car from scratch but they chose the simple method
Yeah and it's not a bad car it's just not the vehicle that they advertised it to be when it was released.
There not fake sway bars
The large plastic ones that you see externally are. They aren't connected to each other side to side. The real sway bars are just standard ones that you would see on most RC cars.
Hard pass for me . I'll stick to truggies
In this case I'm not sure I blame you. I don't expect this thing to be super durable.
@@DoRC it looks cool . I give em that .
@Shellzwick oh yeah it's a beautiful vehicle especially in person.
@@DoRC I believe it
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i just.... don't get it. fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice...
like. WHO at Losi is so goddamned stupid? i'm sorry, but there's no other word to describe it. because why otherwise go out of your way to ruin your name... again? just.. too many problems
1) as a shock to no one, undersized drivetrain/chassis. just like with the previous one, which was a 1/8th car in a 1/10th chassis, they put a 1/6th on a 1/8th chassis. and things break! shocking, i know!
2) what is it with Losi and their fetish for fake swaybars? it's a huge, expensive car, put in a real one!
3) IF they do another Lasernut, please, for the love of god, PUT IT ON PORTALS! sad how they go out of their way to make it look scale, but don't do the most important part of making it a scale U4 car like the real thing next to it in promotional videos: portals
4) continuing from 3): use actual beadlocks and make them aluminium for a bit of weight [needed for CoG tuning due to portals]
and speaking of 3), why is it that no big brand does portals for independent suspension cars? the Chinese boutique brands seem to care much MUCH more about actual rock racer realism than all the american big brands combined. sadness
question: what's with the super 'squirrelly' wheels? particularly while steering. i haven't seen a single SuperLasernut video where they didn't look like they were on the verge of flying out, or as if they were very poorly assembled beadlocks
i'm just sad. so supremely, incredibly, sad and disappointed. realistically, i have no place to run or even store this behemoth, but being a huge U4/KoH fan, i would've made some sacrifices to own this thing if it performed and went a bit beyond fake exhausts for scale realism... but this? this is frankly insulting :( :( :( :( :(
[and considering it's the same crap as the predecessor, but bigger and more expensive, there's next to 0 chance of the aftermarket fixing even half of the huge problems with this thing, because it will be so unpopular :(]
I was really hoping that this would have some secret sauce in it but check my latest video. You just can't get around physics.
All hex screws under 4mm are crap, and when they strip, which they will, you can`t just use something else.
Small scale hex is trash, whereas philips work in all sizes and you can use different size drivers or even a flathead driver.
Reviewers going "oh and it has hex now" need to stfu, because when I look at small hex screws, all I see is problems..
I wouldn't say under 4 mm. I have very few problems with anything down to 2 mm. The 1.5 can definitely be problematic though. If you're having problems with smaller screws it's possible your tools are partially to blame. Especially at smaller sizes the accuracy and strength of the bits plays a big role in whether or not a screw will strip out.
Disappointing
So far yes. We'll see how it does in the next video.
Big meh, 1/10 is perfect
It's an awesome vehicle I'm just not sure the drivetrain's going to be up to it. Honestly it kind of has the same problem the one 10th scale one does.
1/10 is sadly too small for the thick grass areas I have to run my rigs. Something like this is perfect
@@fmc7209 Yeah I have the same problem especially in the summer time.
Same here . I noticed the thicker grass will wear down and lay flat eventually and wear in a path . I was tearing my yard up so lately I ve found some spots next to tree lines where the grass is thinner . I put the reccomended arrma wide kit on the granite and the aluminum shock mounts that bring the shock out a little bit and it has made for more sticky landings . My k6s rear end still bounces though . I can live with it .
@Hungrybird474 The biggest issue I have with tall grass is electronics overheating. Tall grass is pretty much the highest friction surface you can bash on
Such a good looking buggy. I'm guessing the choice of going with an XXL 1/8 platform, similar to the reason why then went with a XXL 1/10 for the previous smaller Lasernut is to maintain the scale appearance. In both cases using more appropriately sized and robust components would make it look like a thick, chunkier version of the prototype. An RC that is meant to be driven in the same manner as the real thing, where failure would be experienced when driven beyond the capabilities of the real Lasernut. Question is can it hold up to that light bashing? I got the impression that the smaller Losi Lasernut didn't even do that, I thought this one might, but that popped dogbone does raise concerns. At least no parts were broken...one component just disassembled itself. Either way I think you reasonably max out a chassis for typical RC use at the XL size, such as a DB Pro or Baja Rey on a 1/10 platform; or Mojave, Fireteam, or Big Rock on a 1/8 platform.
Yeah that's entirely possible. So far the answer to whether or not it can handle light bashing is no but I'm going to give it a second chance on 6S before I go to 8S in the next video and I've got a few tweaks I'm going to make to give it the best chance of success.