So easy to do oil and filter change on these engines, I did mine last summer on my seat Leon cupra sc, there is a specific tool for removing and installing the plastic sump plug, ref - T10549, it’s a better fit than a screwdriver. Great video Andrew.
Spray wax top tip: leave the can in hot water for 5-10 mins prior to using on the car and once its sprayed, it will seep into hard to reach areas more easily.
After servicing my Mk7 GTI, I'll second those sump plugs, absolute godsend compared to my ABF! The only thing I struggled with was trying to get an accurate reading on the dipstick.
I struggled too hence why that bit took up so much of the video! You can get a trace of oil higher up the dipstick which confuses things but if you look carefully you can see the proper level just below it. Glad you agree about the sump plugs!
And further reading on the net suggests similar issues. In the end I took the dipstick out, gave plenty of time to let the oil drain to the sump and recheck. It helped but not great.
5W/30 504/507 spec has been changed to 0W/30 now for all cars. This is now the recommended and during 2021 it will be updated at all VW dealerships. This will mean a goodbye to 5W/30 for good. It is the new G 052 195 M4
When I bought my Octavia new fron the dealership in 2016, I asked about engine run in, they explained the engines are already run in when they're given to you so there's no reason to do an oil change or drive it carefully. The manual does indeed state it but the dealer stated that it's simply for information purposes and doesn't need to be followed... So far it's got over 250,000km and still faultless.
Yeh exactly what my 20 yr experience VW mechanic said. He pretty much said maybe don't launch it in Race mode out of the dealership but that's about it.
I was always under the impression that you vary the rev range, put it under a bit of load, avoid engine braking and refrain from redlining the engine during the run in process. A decent drive through the hills immediately after leaving the dealership is my go to run in routine...
In the olden days running in was a very laborious process, cars even had signs on saying "running in, please pass" because they'd be holding up traffic! As you dealership person rightly said, those days have gone and the process stated in the handbook is far less painful and basically says avoid full throttle, high revs and labouring the engine (and towing a trailer). Considering the dealer told me to use the wrong oil, I wouldn't take their word over what a German has carefully written in the handbook. I've driven a lot of EA888 R engines and I can categorically tell you when new they are much less keen to rev than with a few k miles on them, so much so I don't enjoy doing it as it feels wrong to do so. Mpg improves too. I'm not an engineer but I can't see how they can loosen up and not put some metal particles into the oil, however small the amount. As for yours being perfect at 250k, maybe the way you drive normally conforms to what the running in instructions say anyway? I didn't feel too hard done by during the first 1k miles, I didn;t get home any later than usual! There will be people who get a Golf R and want to thrash it mercilessly from the off, demonstrating launch control to friends, racing other cars and it's really this sort of abuse that needs to wait
Hey bud I thought our 2020 Rs were 0w20 508 spec now. Climate in my Australian state is a bit more mild than others. I'll double check my manual but think it was a tsb perhaps since out cars cam out.
Hey Chris from Canada, thanks for commenting. We don't get that here in the UK. 1.8T was last used on Golf 4, is yours a 7 though? If so it will be the 1.8 TSI EA888 so very similar to the one in the video. 4motion is very clever engineering but check out my other videos which show you how it can fail (don't worry, it's easily avoided or fixed!)
@@volkswizard Its a 7.5. I have seen most of your videos and aware of the filter an pump issues with the Haldex as I have a 2016 Golf R as well. Wish we got the Golf R wagon (Estate) in NA. Either way I love having the extra space that comes with the increased length.
What the dealers use isn't based on what's good for the car but what they can get the best deal on. Shell used to fitout VW workshops so they could get the oil contract. They also made a cheap 10w/40 semi-synthetic that somehow conformed to the same standards as a 5w/40 fully synthetic. I remember arguing with the service manager at Solihull VW who wanted to put that in a Mk6 GTI, a model with a history of cam chain problems...
I work at a VW dealer. We use Castorl here inn Norway. Some new VW engines use 0/20 oil. My mates 2018 gti preformance can use tyst oil but VW use 5/30 and he takes an oil change every 10.000km. and have it at service since the car Are under Warranty.
Thanks Juan. It's hard to know for sure as like the oil it can vary but I understand it to be DSG is 4 years or 40k miles, Haldex is 3 years or 30k, brake fluid is first due at 3 years then every 2. The rear differential (separate to Haldex) has no interval but is worth doing at 40k miles
VW filled my 2020 R with 0W30 Castrol. When I queried the viscosity [I was expecting them to use 5w30 or 40 as per the manual] they said that VW changed the oil recommendation to 0w30 in 2019... The sticker under the bonnet also says 0w30....
I get that theres bits coming off during the bedding in process but would have thought they end up in the filter and that the filter shouldnt be clogged at 1000 miles and no detriment.....what am I missing? Youll also still have old oil left in the oil cooler system. Also add up every can of oil sold thats short by 0.2 litres and you can see Quantum are saving money on every can.....bad form really selling it as 5 litres.
Filter doesn’t filter 100%. No oil drain empties all the oil but it gets rid of most of it. There was some more oil in the pack when I removed the cardboard to recycle. These eco bags mean less landfill but don’t work as well as the old bottles
It does and it's tricky, I find pressure washing after driving in heavy rain doesn't the job. Sometimes rain will clean them quite well too. You can jack up, leave wheel on and pressure wash then too for a more thorough clean. Presoaking is the key
I did mine a couple of weeks ago, and plan on changing it in between official services. There’s a specific tool available for the sump plug, either a screwdriver type or a ¼” drive. I got mine from eBay for £3. 75.
Interesting re the tool Pete. TBH the screwdriver on the blue table was too small and damaged the sump plug on removal a bit so I wouldn't have wanted to reuse it. I swapped for a slightly bigger one and it was fine but I will check out that tool as it's cheaper than the plug!
Interesting video. Wish I had access to a ramp! That oil filter was strange looking last time I changed oil in a car (probably about 20 years ago🤣🤣), it was an all in one metal canister.
I think for environmental reasons you just changed the paper element part of an oil filter which should biodegrade. The old ones you describe are still in use here and there (early EA888 engine) but are quite rare now. Mk7 is much easier than a Mk2 Golf so quite easy to do on the floor (but at 49 years old I don't find it so easy to get up so I love my ramp!)
Take the Quantum oil out of the box and you will find the rest or your oil is still in the plastic bag, the crease of the plastic bag in the cardboard box can hold a 100ml or so of oil from coming out. 5:08 ..
Nice job in the 🥶👍 I use an innocent juice bottle (washed out) cut in half as a funnel, seems to fit perfect or the larger robinsons juice bottles, my own vag diesel when I bought it at 3 years old and 29k I was told it had full service history which I saw, when I collected the car and subsequently checked in more detail the service record was for a car no longer in existence and from the first oil change I did it was clear it was the first oil change the car had. It’s now on 140k and with regular changes with the right oil runs lovely but I dread to think the damage that first 30k on the original oil did.
I did exactly the same ‘running in’ oil change on my 2014 R. I waited until I had covered approximately 1,500 miles and then changed the oil and filter. Close examination of the old oil did show a few very small particles of metal shavings, particularly when the oil was viewed in bright sunlight. I also was a bit cautious regarding the plastic sump plug. Decided to fit a new one as they cost very little and for my peace of mind. The plug definitely seats into the sump with a nice positive click, so no worries there. Only tool I had to purchase to undertake the oil change was the 32mm socket. Opted for a 3/8 drive version, plenty of them for sale on eBay or Amazon.
Iv purchased quantum from vw dealer once for my Golf R and used it and can say isnt good quality the engine start making noises not smooth as castrol brand which is recommend even on cap oil and hand book !
When was that? Castrol actually made it for Quantum until a few years ago when it moved to Fuchs, more info here www.fuchs.com/uk/en/company/news/news-entry/320-tps-selects-fuchs-lubricants-uk-for-all-new-quantum-oil-range/
Good informative video as always, I see you went with 5W30, if I remember correctly VW allow different grades depending on service regime, my old Mk7 allowed 502 00 and 504 00 I think, On a side note, Do you think I should have changed the oil after run in on my M135i ? BMW told me I absolutely did not need to.
I changed my oil 3 times in the first 3000km after I had my engine rebuilt. Once at 500km, then at 1500km and then at 3000km. All three times I found metal shavings in the oil. Granted a new factory engine may have better tolerances than a shop rebuilt one, but if I were you I would change the oil.
@@cfbm125 Not at all. It’s a new engine. Remember this is preventative maintenance. You may be okay with bmw’s suggestion, but my logic is better be safe than sorry. I generally don’t follow manufacturers’ suggestions because I use my cars hard. So I usually change the oil twice between the recommended intervals.
Totally agree with your approach with a new car post delivery purchase and a controlled running is is still a must in my book. Call me an old school professional engineer by training. Have you found many metal pieces on the magnetic plug on recent services you have done on your new cars? As manufacturing processes over the last 10plus years have improved greatly in cleanliness both in engine,gearbox etc.components. That being said I would still undertake what you have done.
Hi Keith, old school is good! Where the magnetic plug? This one isn't even metal so you can't even fit one. Cutting the filter open was an old M96 engine Porsche trick as metal particles meant imminent doom so I'll have a look at mine as it's still in the drainer
@@volkswizard A reminder of my partners son's Leon Cupra 290,which had a stone through his plastic sump ,luckily he was 5mins from home , got back shut down the engine and half the engine oil over the driveway. Next day AA picked the car up took it Fish Bro Swindon. Reaction by the service manager " we don't see this very often"??
@@volkswizard DAP sell a magnetic sump plug for the plastic sumps, but it appears to be on back order at the moment, www.shopdap.com/magnetic-drainplug-mqb-vw-audi-mk7-gti-golf-oil-drainplug.html
Great video as always Andrew. Always look forward to another one! Just purchased a very nice Mk5 GTI having watched your buyers guide video many times! First thing that I did was an oil & filter change. Not really required as done 4K miles ago but peace of mind. Keep those videos coming please.
@@volkswizard yes Andrew on my 5th can just done the under side of the A7 . Don’t know if you noticed but it’s made in Germany 🇩🇪 and did you get a long probe stuck to the side of the can ? . It’s been missing on some cans but great for box sections .
I've just bought a 67 plate/30k mile GTi that I plan on keeping for a while... Do you recommend getting this done or is it too late? Don't have access to a lift.
TBH it costs so little you may as well just change it, some may be aluminium from the cylinder head which is softer than steel and not magnetic. I've had a look in the filter and there do seem me microscopic shiny bits in there
Thank you for that. Interesting informative video. I have never owned a VW in my life, but must admit, my head is being turned. As a recent subscriber I am finding all your videos fantastic. Keep the content coming please. I may even treat myself to an UP! GTI in due course.
Thanks Gary, I've done a number of DSG oil changes but I don't film them because I've got the proper tool to gravity fill them, most DIYers don't a fill very slowly from the oil filter so I've never thought it's worth it. However I have finally worked why VW underfilled a box on a car I'd sold and I had to buy a new gearbox for it at £5k as couldn't prove anything so that would make a good video as it could happen to anyone very easily....
Enjoyed the video content and detail, Andrew. Its good to know that I’m not the only one who is a bit fussy when it comes to not overfilling with oil, unlike some garages who are a bit careless when it comes to oil changes, even VW dealerships.
5/40 for definite as the EA113 uses a lot of oil at the best of times and it will use less 5/40 which is perfectly fine for it on 10k/1 year intervals (max)
Thanks Andrew! Plan was to sell it in Jan but I'm quite taken by it, seems silly to have it and the TCR though and the TCR was the keeper, I think when the weather improves the R will be going but who knows?
Experts claim that when you install the oil filter and tighten to 25 Nm, first tighten to 20 Nm first and then tighten to 25 Nm. That way you’ll tend not to over-tighten the oil filter.
Pre OPF cars don't need 5w/30 unless you are running long life intervals so 5w/40 is perfectly fine. If yours is 3 years old or more 5/w40 is fine. VW's TPS website was saying my car was 3 years old and the engine code was 3 years older than it really was so 5w/40 was OK but when you actually checked properly using the correct engine code it said 5w/30
Maybe the parts department would but if they were working on your car in the workshop, they should have the data sheet that Scott kindly provided me with
@@volkswizard It might be a good topic for a future video. Search for 'golfdave mk8 aero covers' for a guide. It's on the list of things I need to do on my GTI.
Well done Andrew a great video I remember the first service on many of my older cars and I remember the dealer telling me it’s ok don’t need it now engines bench tested and synthetic oil but always thought about metal filings in the engine and still run it in as I used to when I have a new one interestingly my wife’s Peugeot 108 did have a first service at 1 month from delivery
I did my mk7r engine oil and dsg service last year.... just wondering if it's a good idea to warm the new oil so it goes in quicker too... Also... when i did my 40k dsg service i could see metal filings in the oil.... so make sure you get this done too guys. Finally....can you list/show the components you sprayed with wax I assume this stuff can be used on the alloys too?
@@volkswizard yes you have no choice but seems a money making racket to me ! I think bmw do that as well ! What was wrong replacing the washer after you have drained the oil .
Nice video matey. Just a quickie though. Mine as you know is the self same model & age. I got it as a demo with 4k on it. Would a similar oil change have been done by the dealer at 1.5k??
i guess, they want to spare out service costs for their leasing customers, who don't need a so much reliable engine in the long term. I never heard of a case where change the oil was negative for the engines condition.
If you've got a service plan with the car VW would never fund a service so early but as the other poster said, if done properly with the correct oil, it won't do any harm, in fact quite the opposite. VW maybe don't want to encourage your car lasting forever as not good for sales :)
@@volkswizard no service or leasing but seems its also for their environmental compliance as oil changing contributes towards their emissions targets or so I was told. I will get it sorted after a few thousand km to be safe.
Did my Golf R oil and filter change, I used a syphon pump, nice and easy. Do wish VW would manufacture a dip stick where the oil level is definitive. They are pretty vague at best. 👍
Hi John, I'm not convinced by syphoning as it possibly may not be as thorough a drain. Main dealers used to do this and owners in the know weren't best pleased but I have to scientific proof to say that it's not as good. It's definitely better to change it than not however you do it!
With any performance car I’d recommend checking your oil weekly (I suppose it does depend on mileage, but it’s not a bad habit to get into). Another fantastic video. 👍
First new car I ever bought I did the same 1500 miles I took it back to main dealer for an oil change They said it wasn’t due But I said I wanted done so they charged me for doing it but I’m sure too this day they didn’t change it because they thought it was stupid haveing it done so soon 🤔
Yes, turned it around so I can investigate the oil pressure warning at idle. Seems to be a genuine problem which is weird as it does it when cold when pressure is mega high and the engine sounds fine. Need a pressure gauge next. Lockdown is quite handy for finding time for this car but still a few other jobs to do first.
I appreciate the time and effort you are putting into these vids, but can you please get better lighting for the under the car filming, and maybe some tripods so you dont keep walking around with the camera on your person, thanks though i do appreciate the time and effort.
Thanks, that's very kind. It's tricky to film and do the work so I am glad it hung together OK. No audio issues either which is nice, hoping an official GoPro mic adapter has made a difference 🤞
It's been used on nearly everything for 15 years now inc RS4s RS6s etc, the beauty of the EA888 is that it has a lot of oil for a 2.0L engine so shouldn't get as hot as it would do in the older gen engines especially with a more efficient cooler.
Thought on modern cars you didn’t need to change the oil so early as the engines are designed better these days and you have much metal floating about. Plus changing the oil that soon isn’t great for the environment
One of the things I don’t like about Motability cars is the two year oil change interval. Dad’s MK 7.5 Golf Bluemotion 1.5 TSI Evo is displaying on the dash that it needs an oil change after two and a half thousand miles and eighteen months, but Motability stipulates oil changes should only be at two years.
These will fit onto your rear control arms and protect them from debris and also adds bit of aero. 1 ea. 5Q0 501 733 1 ea. 5Q0 501 734 8 ea. 8E0 825 267 (4 ea. side)
Thanks Chris! The TCR has its underside waxed earlier this week as I'd forgotten all about it having bought it in June. I love the R but when I drive the TCR it's a lot more exciting.
I paid £200 for my first R oil change in 2015, wasn't happy but was selling the car so had no choice. New owner drove it away from VW so sale depended on it.
Love these oil change videos. I know you made quite a few, but I find myself re-watching it every time just to refresh my memory
Always nice having fresh oil in the engine always change mine every 6 months 👍
Nice work Jay!
@@volkswizard have u ever had the oil tested
6 months is what I do too! Right before the summer and once before the winter. 2016 MK7 GTI Performance Pack
So easy to do oil and filter change on these engines, I did mine last summer on my seat Leon cupra sc, there is a specific tool for removing and installing the plastic sump plug, ref - T10549, it’s a better fit than a screwdriver.
Great video Andrew.
Thanks AWS 21! Will check out that tool 👍
'Don't kill yourself changing the oil. I need the views'
I never felt so loved 😂
Spray wax top tip: leave the can in hot water for 5-10 mins prior to using on the car and once its sprayed, it will seep into hard to reach areas more easily.
Even though I am probably never going to change the oil on my car, I enjoyed this ‘how to video’.
So long dealer intervals are wrong? My clubsport is 4 years but still running great....
I used to respect this 1000km bed in oil change, but you will find not 1 manufacturer that recommends it.
After servicing my Mk7 GTI, I'll second those sump plugs, absolute godsend compared to my ABF!
The only thing I struggled with was trying to get an accurate reading on the dipstick.
I struggled too hence why that bit took up so much of the video! You can get a trace of oil higher up the dipstick which confuses things but if you look carefully you can see the proper level just below it. Glad you agree about the sump plugs!
And further reading on the net suggests similar issues. In the end I took the dipstick out, gave plenty of time to let the oil drain to the sump and recheck. It helped but not great.
I rest dipstick on white kitchen towel, makes it easier to read
I remember the mk2 Polo dipstick was difficult to see, sorry not quite Golf R scale
5W/30 504/507 spec has been changed to 0W/30 now for all cars. This is now the recommended and during 2021 it will be updated at all VW dealerships.
This will mean a goodbye to 5W/30 for good.
It is the new G 052 195 M4
But I will still change to 5W/30 as I have a lot of it.
Will you use 0W/30 next time or?
When I bought my Octavia new fron the dealership in 2016, I asked about engine run in, they explained the engines are already run in when they're given to you so there's no reason to do an oil change or drive it carefully. The manual does indeed state it but the dealer stated that it's simply for information purposes and doesn't need to be followed... So far it's got over 250,000km and still faultless.
Yeh exactly what my 20 yr experience VW mechanic said. He pretty much said maybe don't launch it in Race mode out of the dealership but that's about it.
I was always under the impression that you vary the rev range, put it under a bit of load, avoid engine braking and refrain from redlining the engine during the run in process. A decent drive through the hills immediately after leaving the dealership is my go to run in routine...
In the olden days running in was a very laborious process, cars even had signs on saying "running in, please pass" because they'd be holding up traffic! As you dealership person rightly said, those days have gone and the process stated in the handbook is far less painful and basically says avoid full throttle, high revs and labouring the engine (and towing a trailer). Considering the dealer told me to use the wrong oil, I wouldn't take their word over what a German has carefully written in the handbook. I've driven a lot of EA888 R engines and I can categorically tell you when new they are much less keen to rev than with a few k miles on them, so much so I don't enjoy doing it as it feels wrong to do so. Mpg improves too. I'm not an engineer but I can't see how they can loosen up and not put some metal particles into the oil, however small the amount. As for yours being perfect at 250k, maybe the way you drive normally conforms to what the running in instructions say anyway? I didn't feel too hard done by during the first 1k miles, I didn;t get home any later than usual! There will be people who get a Golf R and want to thrash it mercilessly from the off, demonstrating launch control to friends, racing other cars and it's really this sort of abuse that needs to wait
Hey bud I thought our 2020 Rs were 0w20 508 spec now. Climate in my Australian state is a bit more mild than others. I'll double check my manual but think it was a tsb perhaps since out cars cam out.
Recently bought a CPO 1.8T SportWagen in Canada. Has 4Motion so its great in the winter. Really enjoying all the wagon content.
Hey Chris from Canada, thanks for commenting. We don't get that here in the UK. 1.8T was last used on Golf 4, is yours a 7 though? If so it will be the 1.8 TSI EA888 so very similar to the one in the video. 4motion is very clever engineering but check out my other videos which show you how it can fail (don't worry, it's easily avoided or fixed!)
@@volkswizard Its a 7.5. I have seen most of your videos and aware of the filter an pump issues with the Haldex as I have a 2016 Golf R as well. Wish we got the Golf R wagon (Estate) in NA. Either way I love having the extra space that comes with the increased length.
I thought that VW UK uses Castrol mainly no? That's what my 2.0 TSI Scirocco rolled out of the factory with it
Yeah Pretty sure my S3 came with Castrol
The dealer used Shell Helix for the last service on my GTI.
What the dealers use isn't based on what's good for the car but what they can get the best deal on. Shell used to fitout VW workshops so they could get the oil contract. They also made a cheap 10w/40 semi-synthetic that somehow conformed to the same standards as a 5w/40 fully synthetic. I remember arguing with the service manager at Solihull VW who wanted to put that in a Mk6 GTI, a model with a history of cam chain problems...
@@volkswizard Ha lol thanks for the insight!
I work at a VW dealer. We use Castorl here inn Norway. Some new VW engines use 0/20 oil. My mates 2018 gti preformance can use tyst oil but VW use 5/30 and he takes an oil change every 10.000km. and have it at service since the car Are under Warranty.
Great video
When do you have change the oil on the DSG gear box and the rest of running gear
Thanks Juan. It's hard to know for sure as like the oil it can vary but I understand it to be DSG is 4 years or 40k miles, Haldex is 3 years or 30k, brake fluid is first due at 3 years then every 2. The rear differential (separate to Haldex) has no interval but is worth doing at 40k miles
VW filled my 2020 R with 0W30 Castrol. When I queried the viscosity [I was expecting them to use 5w30 or 40 as per the manual] they said that VW changed the oil recommendation to 0w30 in 2019... The sticker under the bonnet also says 0w30....
The Oil filter is easier to get at than the 2.0 tdi I change mine every 5k because of the bluefin remap
I don't think an oil filter could be any easier! Definitely worth doing sooner than 10k on modified cars 👍
These still have dipsticks 😵. Gas strut in the way? “Won’t be a problem on mk8 will it” 🤣😂
I get that theres bits coming off during the bedding in process but would have thought they end up in the filter and that the filter shouldnt be clogged at 1000 miles and no detriment.....what am I missing? Youll also still have old oil left in the oil cooler system.
Also add up every can of oil sold thats short by 0.2 litres and you can see Quantum are saving money on every can.....bad form really selling it as 5 litres.
Filter doesn’t filter 100%. No oil drain empties all the oil but it gets rid of most of it. There was some more oil in the pack when I removed the cardboard to recycle. These eco bags mean less landfill but don’t work as well as the old bottles
www.ecogard.com/truth-about-oil-filter-micron-ratings/
Can't afford to lose 1 viewer. Classic.😂
A bit of humour does no harm 😁
@@volkswizard indeed !!
Think i'd be more concerned with the potential for future carbon build up on the intake than build up of swarf in the oil at 1000miles.
Very informative, helpful and honest.
Does it have carpeted wheel arch liners, how do clean those and get the crap out ?
It does and it's tricky, I find pressure washing after driving in heavy rain doesn't the job. Sometimes rain will clean them quite well too. You can jack up, leave wheel on and pressure wash then too for a more thorough clean. Presoaking is the key
I did mine a couple of weeks ago, and plan on changing it in between official services. There’s a specific tool available for the sump plug, either a screwdriver type or a ¼” drive. I got mine from eBay for £3. 75.
Interesting re the tool Pete. TBH the screwdriver on the blue table was too small and damaged the sump plug on removal a bit so I wouldn't have wanted to reuse it. I swapped for a slightly bigger one and it was fine but I will check out that tool as it's cheaper than the plug!
Yeah it felt much more secure than a screwdriver and for the money it’s worth having. Just search eBay for ‘VW sump plug removal tool’ you’ll find it.
Can you do a transfer box oil change on a Golf R 7.5 please
Nice idea but very limited audience so not one for me. Hasn't anyone else done it yet?
Very very useful because many people are afraid to work on modern cars
Interesting video. Wish I had access to a ramp! That oil filter was strange looking last time I changed oil in a car (probably about 20 years ago🤣🤣), it was an all in one metal canister.
I think for environmental reasons you just changed the paper element part of an oil filter which should biodegrade. The old ones you describe are still in use here and there (early EA888 engine) but are quite rare now. Mk7 is much easier than a Mk2 Golf so quite easy to do on the floor (but at 49 years old I don't find it so easy to get up so I love my ramp!)
Take the Quantum oil out of the box and you will find the rest or your oil is still in the plastic bag, the crease of the plastic bag in the cardboard box can hold a 100ml or so of oil from coming out. 5:08 ..
Nice job in the 🥶👍 I use an innocent juice bottle (washed out) cut in half as a funnel, seems to fit perfect or the larger robinsons juice bottles, my own vag diesel when I bought it at 3 years old and 29k I was told it had full service history which I saw, when I collected the car and subsequently checked in more detail the service record was for a car no longer in existence and from the first oil change I did it was clear it was the first oil change the car had. It’s now on 140k and with regular changes with the right oil runs lovely but I dread to think the damage that first 30k on the original oil did.
I did exactly the same ‘running in’ oil change on my 2014 R. I waited until I had covered approximately 1,500 miles and then changed the oil and filter. Close examination of the old oil did show a few very small particles of metal shavings, particularly when the oil was viewed in bright sunlight. I also was a bit cautious regarding the plastic sump plug. Decided to fit a new one as they cost very little and for my peace of mind. The plug definitely seats into the sump with a nice positive click, so no worries there. Only tool I had to purchase to undertake the oil change was the 32mm socket. Opted for a 3/8 drive version, plenty of them for sale on eBay or Amazon.
So the the same as the GTI etc thanks for the vid!
Do you lose warranty for doing you own oil change?
Only if you do it wrong!
Iv purchased quantum from vw dealer once for my Golf R and used it and can say isnt good quality the engine start making noises not smooth as castrol brand which is recommend even on cap oil and hand book !
When was that? Castrol actually made it for Quantum until a few years ago when it moved to Fuchs, more info here www.fuchs.com/uk/en/company/news/news-entry/320-tps-selects-fuchs-lubricants-uk-for-all-new-quantum-oil-range/
@@volkswizard Fuchs oil - whether the standard fuchs or quantum brand is top quality oil. I would not use castrol edge on my car ever again.
@@wizkid01 why not castrol Edge?
@@volkswizard Quantum or Shell?
Good informative video as always, I see you went with 5W30, if I remember correctly VW allow different grades depending on service regime, my old Mk7 allowed 502 00 and 504 00 I think,
On a side note, Do you think I should have changed the oil after run in on my M135i ? BMW told me I absolutely did not need to.
I changed my oil 3 times in the first 3000km after I had my engine rebuilt. Once at 500km, then at 1500km and then at 3000km. All three times I found metal shavings in the oil. Granted a new factory engine may have better tolerances than a shop rebuilt one, but if I were you I would change the oil.
@@NachoBides it’s currently at 3500 miles, have I missed the opportunity?
@@cfbm125 Not at all. It’s a new engine. Remember this is preventative maintenance. You may be okay with bmw’s suggestion, but my logic is better be safe than sorry. I generally don’t follow manufacturers’ suggestions because I use my cars hard. So I usually change the oil twice between the recommended intervals.
@@cfbm125 for the price of an oil service it’s worth doing. Even cheaper if you DIY.
@@NachoBides you’re absolutely right, I think I’ll get it done ASAP. 👍
Totally agree with your approach with a new car post delivery purchase and a controlled running is is still a must in my book. Call me an old school professional engineer by training.
Have you found many metal pieces on the magnetic plug on recent services you have done on your new cars?
As manufacturing processes over the last 10plus years have improved greatly in cleanliness both in engine,gearbox etc.components.
That being said I would still undertake what you have done.
Hi Keith, old school is good! Where the magnetic plug? This one isn't even metal so you can't even fit one. Cutting the filter open was an old M96 engine Porsche trick as metal particles meant imminent doom so I'll have a look at mine as it's still in the drainer
@@volkswizard A reminder of my partners son's Leon Cupra 290,which had a stone through his plastic sump ,luckily he was 5mins from home , got back shut down the engine and half the engine oil over the driveway.
Next day AA picked the car up took it Fish Bro Swindon. Reaction by the service manager " we don't see this very often"??
@@volkswizard DAP sell a magnetic sump plug for the plastic sumps, but it appears to be on back order at the moment, www.shopdap.com/magnetic-drainplug-mqb-vw-audi-mk7-gti-golf-oil-drainplug.html
Great video as always Andrew. Always look forward to another one! Just purchased a very nice Mk5 GTI having watched your buyers guide video many times! First thing that I did was an oil & filter change. Not really required as done 4K miles ago but peace of mind. Keep those videos coming please.
Thanks Mark, enjoy your GTI, they just need fresh oil and will go on for ever!
Since the filter is on top, why don't use vacuum. This car has a low ground, without proper jack would be dangerous to get under.
Doesn't it have a Maintenance plan, Why are you doing the oil change in your shed yourself shouldn't the dealer do it free of charge?
Because it's his own car, and he's exceeding the recommendations for oil changes.
Hi Andrew glad you took my advice and tried the Euro car parts cavity wax . I have just used it on the A7 . See I ay a bad chap really 👍.
Was that you Wayne?! Thanks, great advice!
@@volkswizard yes Andrew on my 5th can just done the under side of the A7 . Don’t know if you noticed but it’s made in Germany 🇩🇪 and did you get a long probe stuck to the side of the can ? . It’s been missing on some cans but great for box sections .
I've just bought a 67 plate/30k mile GTi that I plan on keeping for a while... Do you recommend getting this done or is it too late? Don't have access to a lift.
Would it be worth putting a magnet in the old oil to check for deposits?
TBH it costs so little you may as well just change it, some may be aluminium from the cylinder head which is softer than steel and not magnetic. I've had a look in the filter and there do seem me microscopic shiny bits in there
Thank you for that. Interesting informative video. I have never owned a VW in my life, but must admit, my head is being turned. As a recent subscriber I am finding all your videos fantastic. Keep the content coming please. I may even treat myself to an UP! GTI in due course.
Hi Can you do a dsg oil change or shed some light on the subject.Enjoying the content.thanks
Thanks Gary, I've done a number of DSG oil changes but I don't film them because I've got the proper tool to gravity fill them, most DIYers don't a fill very slowly from the oil filter so I've never thought it's worth it. However I have finally worked why VW underfilled a box on a car I'd sold and I had to buy a new gearbox for it at £5k as couldn't prove anything so that would make a good video as it could happen to anyone very easily....
Why dont you fill one time as per VW requirement and its done.
Because I drain more thoroughly than VW so it may not be the same. Plus I'd rather underfill than overfill. A lot main dealer techs aren't so fussy.
Enjoyed the video content and detail, Andrew. Its good to know that I’m not the only one who is a bit fussy when it comes to not overfilling with oil, unlike some garages who are a bit careless when it comes to oil changes, even VW dealerships.
I think you have stated this in the past, should I use 5/30 or 5/40 oil in my 2006 Mk 5 Golf GTI please?
5/40 for definite as the EA113 uses a lot of oil at the best of times and it will use less 5/40 which is perfectly fine for it on 10k/1 year intervals (max)
Thanks for the reply👍it's my next job😀
Great explanation greets from Northern Ontario, Canada.
Thanks Andrew. Your Golf R will be a great second hand buy for someone when you decide to sell it.
Thanks Andrew! Plan was to sell it in Jan but I'm quite taken by it, seems silly to have it and the TCR though and the TCR was the keeper, I think when the weather improves the R will be going but who knows?
Experts claim that when you install the oil filter and tighten to 25 Nm, first tighten to 20 Nm first and then tighten to 25 Nm. That way you’ll tend not to over-tighten the oil filter.
Love your videos. My daughter calls you Mr Calm...lol Do you ever get annoyed working on your cars ?
I always used the quantam 5w40 in my golf r for the 3 years with no issues 🤷♂️
Pre OPF cars don't need 5w/30 unless you are running long life intervals so 5w/40 is perfectly fine. If yours is 3 years old or more 5/w40 is fine. VW's TPS website was saying my car was 3 years old and the engine code was 3 years older than it really was so 5w/40 was OK but when you actually checked properly using the correct engine code it said 5w/30
Reckon a dealer woud use the wrong oil, given that TPS shows the wrong type for your reg number?
Maybe the parts department would but if they were working on your car in the workshop, they should have the data sheet that Scott kindly provided me with
If you want more protection for the rear wishbones you can fit the OEM stone guards and Mk 8 aero covers.
I will check those our DrFod thanks
@@volkswizard It might be a good topic for a future video. Search for 'golfdave mk8 aero covers' for a guide. It's on the list of things I need to do on my GTI.
Andrew, such a useful video. My 7.5 GTI is due it's oil change in May and I plan on doing it myself. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful, should be identical on the GTI so nice and easy 👍
Well done Andrew a great video I remember the first service on many of my older cars and I remember the dealer telling me it’s ok don’t need it now engines bench tested and synthetic oil but always thought about metal filings in the engine and still run it in as I used to when I have a new one interestingly my wife’s Peugeot 108 did have a first service at 1 month from delivery
This video is therapeutic. Nice, clean work!
I did my mk7r engine oil and dsg service last year.... just wondering if it's a good idea to warm the new oil so it goes in quicker too... Also... when i did my 40k dsg service i could see metal filings in the oil.... so make sure you get this done too guys. Finally....can you list/show the components you sprayed with wax I assume this stuff can be used on the alloys too?
Would this work on a 2020 gti
Yes sir!
Hi Andrew what crap is that plastic sump plug ?? £6 if that cost more 50p to make I am Dutch man !
No choice Peter, had to get bought. Saved the money by buying the wax elsewhere though :)
@@volkswizard yes you have no choice but seems a money making racket to me ! I think bmw do that as well ! What was wrong replacing the washer after you have drained the oil .
The new oil spec for that car is vw508/509 spec. Liqui-Moly Top Tec 6200 0w-20
For what is needed the cup of coffee ? Oil filter coolant?
Hydration lubricant
Always need a coffee!
I totally get why you do a running in oil change. But where you only keep the cars for such a short time it’s surely not worth it.
im trying to find the video in which you show us how to use a built in tracker on the golf,can you tell me which one it is please.
Nice video matey. Just a quickie though. Mine as you know is the self same model & age. I got it as a demo with 4k on it. Would a similar oil change have been done by the dealer at 1.5k??
VW want an oil change after 15k (ie 1st service). They advised against doing it prior. What would you say, should I get it done after 1500-2000 KM?
i guess, they want to spare out service costs for their leasing customers, who don't need a so much reliable engine in the long term. I never heard of a case where change the oil was negative for the engines condition.
If you've got a service plan with the car VW would never fund a service so early but as the other poster said, if done properly with the correct oil, it won't do any harm, in fact quite the opposite. VW maybe don't want to encourage your car lasting forever as not good for sales :)
@@volkswizard no service or leasing but seems its also for their environmental compliance as oil changing contributes towards their emissions targets or so I was told. I will get it sorted after a few thousand km to be safe.
Great work Andrew and great to see the car with some grime on it hopefully due to some fun miles 👍🎯 ahead also as the running in is now done :)
Thanks Malcolm, most of that grime is plodding up the motorway to work, fun has been banned in the UK until March :)
How do you get genuine VG parts if you’re not trade?
Did my Golf R oil and filter change, I used a syphon pump, nice and easy. Do wish VW would manufacture a dip stick where the oil level is definitive. They are pretty vague at best. 👍
Hi John, I'm not convinced by syphoning as it possibly may not be as thorough a drain. Main dealers used to do this and owners in the know weren't best pleased but I have to scientific proof to say that it's not as good. It's definitely better to change it than not however you do it!
With any performance car I’d recommend checking your oil weekly (I suppose it does depend on mileage, but it’s not a bad habit to get into). Another fantastic video. 👍
First new car I ever bought I did the same 1500 miles I took it back to main dealer for an oil change They said it wasn’t due
But I said I wanted done so they charged me for doing it but I’m sure too this day they didn’t change it because they thought it was stupid haveing it done so soon 🤔
I always mark the oil filter before a service for this reason
Hence the DIY :)
Tricky now as you don't replace the housing on this engine
Did we catch a glimpse of the White Audi 80 at the back of the garage?
Yes, turned it around so I can investigate the oil pressure warning at idle. Seems to be a genuine problem which is weird as it does it when cold when pressure is mega high and the engine sounds fine. Need a pressure gauge next. Lockdown is quite handy for finding time for this car but still a few other jobs to do first.
I appreciate the time and effort you are putting into these vids, but can you please get better lighting for the under the car filming, and maybe some tripods so you dont keep walking around with the camera on your person, thanks though i do appreciate the time and effort.
Great video, very well formatted!
Thanks, that's very kind. It's tricky to film and do the work so I am glad it hung together OK. No audio issues either which is nice, hoping an official GoPro mic adapter has made a difference 🤞
@@volkswizard whatever you are doing is really working! Thanks
W30 oil for such performance petrol engine?!? Hmm... That oil can't be good for higher stress!
It's been used on nearly everything for 15 years now inc RS4s RS6s etc, the beauty of the EA888 is that it has a lot of oil for a 2.0L engine so shouldn't get as hot as it would do in the older gen engines especially with a more efficient cooler.
Thought on modern cars you didn’t need to change the oil so early as the engines are designed better these days and you have much metal floating about. Plus changing the oil that soon isn’t great for the environment
Toyota Prius Driver ?
@@wayneofwolves2807 No I have a 2015 R
Wow this is interesting, this is the first time I’ve ever heard of a plastic sump plug, who knew!
One of the things I don’t like about Motability cars is the two year oil change interval. Dad’s MK 7.5 Golf Bluemotion 1.5 TSI Evo is displaying on the dash that it needs an oil change after two and a half thousand miles and eighteen months, but Motability stipulates oil changes should only be at two years.
If you drain the oil first then take the oil filter off it doesn’t leak anywhere
Love the Golf 8 dig😃
Couldn't resist 😁
Great information most helpful thank you so much.
Glad it was helpful!
These will fit onto your rear control arms and protect them from debris and also adds bit of aero.
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5.7 liters for 2 liter engine is a bit on the high side. I guess the engine needs a lot of cooling.
Yay 😍
First again 😎
great video the golf tcr is beautiful
Thanks Chris! The TCR has its underside waxed earlier this week as I'd forgotten all about it having bought it in June. I love the R but when I drive the TCR it's a lot more exciting.
very helpfull thank you
Glad it helped Jeff, thanks
No under-engine plastic shield on these cars? Man, that has been one of the bad parts for me esp on some 5s or 5.5s..when not having a lift ;)
It's just a partial shield just like Mk5/6 but unlike those the filter is up top so you don't need to touch it, easier for you I hope :)
Good job 👍
waiting to watch FIRST OIL CHANGE GOLF 8 GTI even if the process will be the same 😂
We haven’t had a drive in it yet Andy
Fair point, will sort soon, lots to catch up on Dave!
Personally if i had a new car it will have the oil done at 1k then another 5k and then about 8k after that everytime
So easy it just shows how much of a rip off the dealers really are
I paid £200 for my first R oil change in 2015, wasn't happy but was selling the car so had no choice. New owner drove it away from VW so sale depended on it.
Needs a nice good clean again lol