@Fraser Fir What air force has the US faced? Iraqi planes never left the ground during invasion... People die in war "The basic fact-no US ground troop has been killed in an attack by an enemy aircraft since 1953" "Since 2001, the A-10 has been involved in four friendly fire incidents that killed 10 U.S. troops. The next highest is the B-1B bomber, which killed five soldiers last year in one incident. Friendly fire deaths are exceptionally rare. There have been 45 total friendly fire incidents out of about 140,000 missions flown by the Air Force, Navy and Marines." Google the quote read some facts and pull your head out of the medias sand
@@f.a.2115 C-130J is most recent version of C130, updated from original C-130A from 1955. Just update the airplane and manufacture a new version like C130. Same plane design, new version with new engines/props and payload capability
Just the sound alone of this weapon of war strikes fear into all our enemies. You hear seventy thirty caliber rounds a second hitting the ground in close proximity before you even hear the plane fire. Not only accurate, lethal, and versatile, its payload is threatening. The 30cal was enough, 1000 rounds max due to the weight. But it can still carry almost anything as well. Anti-air, air to ground heavy payloads. As the senator said; simply ask soldiers on the ground how effective this is.
It has the highest friendly fire rate according to Air Force stats that cherry-picked data, for years that showed what the Fighter Mafia wants to show. If you include 2009 data, the B-1 is the top killer of friendlies and civilians. When a government watchdog group called out the Air Force on their bullshit report, the USAF said they did NOT claim the A-10 had the worst friendly fire rate, and it’s not their fault some reporter put that in a headline. The USAF spokesperson went on to say that the A-10 was the next most accurate plane after the F-15E and had the next lowest rate of friendly-fire per mission after the F-15E. Meanwhile the F-15 and F-35 each cost 3 times more, per flight hour.
Sen. McCain knew something about the CAS mission. He spent half a decade tortured and chained to concrete and steel performing one in his A-4 Skyhawk. So effing funny that Secretary Air Force broad and Pentagon general tried to BS the Vietnam scooter driver...
how the hell an army general involved in determine money used on equipment? military man should determine how to win a war with minimum casualties. if he/she is not worried about casualties, he is not qualified in this meeting.
So keeping in service the plane with one of the highest blue on blue record in history and has itself one of the lowest survivability record of any Fighter/attacker in US inventory, is the best way to win a war with minimum casualties ? Like, it doesn't even have the most amount of ground unit destroyed, the fricking F-111 aardvark which was retired in 1998 did that job better than the A-10
The A-10 is irreplaceable because of its mission.I will say it needs a couple of 50 Cals for straffing to make it perfect the big gun isn't needed for that but better for hardened targets
@@Stangy04 why would ya wanna get rid of the best close air support aircraft in service? That just doesn’t make sense to me. F-35’s are expensive as hell! Who is gonna pay for them? The A-10 can dish out the punishment and it can take it. Why would ya wanna replace them best close air support plane in service so far.
@@cowboycamden5561 i didn't say I wanted them out of service but was pointing to the fact they are replaceable. According to Maj John Wilson(f35 pilot), most cas are not with A10s although A10s are the best for cas. Im looking at it from a logistical pov. It'll cost the AF more money to have the airframe which will come from parts, cost of training maintainers along with the lack of pilots and maintainers to begin with. The AF is working with what it has.
You know what's actually embarassing? That Congress is telling the USAF to hurry up and field the F-35, develop new drones, and get rid of old aircraft, then whines and moans about the budget when the USAF attempts to fulfill any of those missions. For that man to tell the General that its somehow HIS FAULT that the AF is underfunded for what Congress wants it to accomplish is utterly disgraceful.
I never liked McCain until I flipped channels and caught this on CSPAN. All they have to do is remake the frames haha, thats the only thing with a time limit. c130 was updated over and over and over!
What a lot of people need to understand is that the Senator has been around and has seen some real shit and has grown up in different times so occasionally he will say some real shit.
The Military-Industrial Complex, the one that keeps requesting expensive junk the military has not requested or needs in the future wars, the geniuses on the armed services committee recommended abolishing the A10 (which does not make enough month for some contractors) and swapping it out for more expensive platforms (F16, F15, B1-bomber) that would not serve as well. Sen. McCain pointed this out in a Senate Armed Services Committee.
The A-10 makes contractors a ton of money. Boeing alone made 2 billion off the re-winging program. The A-10 is an absolute money pit, but congressmen love to hide these costs.
@0:31; And when you give your full divided attention to your stupid-phone during a debate, you sure give Americans the assurance that you actually give a hoot about participating in policy. John McCain is a wasted body in government. Gen. Mark Welsh, you have my complete support as to what you think is suitable and serves the best interests of the Air Force's defense. Thank you for your services Sir! ~an average Joe American citizen
+1Smoking Lizard Forgive me if I'm missing something obvious, but at what point was Mr. McCain preoccupied with his phone? I went back to 0:31 repeatedly, and I think one of the gentlemen in the back may have been on their phone, but not the man himself.Personally, I believe the Chairman makes a valid point about the need to acquire a replacement for the A-10 prior to its retirement; however, the manner in which he berated General Welsh's opinion was absolutely uncalled for. Although I disagree with his stance on the issue, I have faith that the General is simply trying to do what he thinks is right. He may just be seeing a different path to a common end goal, but McCain appears content on refusing to see things from another point of view... A very experienced and decorated one at that.
The air force wants to retire the A10 because close air support is used to defend troops on the ground. Specifically, the army and marines. He would like to see the army take over close air support and not burden the air force. Has nothing to do with whether this platform is effective enough. The A10 is a beast.
McCain is a total disgrace and ought to retire. Gen Welsh is a patriot, great american and fine man. As soon as congress appropriates the money to keep the A-10 which Gen Welsh has flown, then we'll do it. We're short 700 pilots and 4,000 maintainers to date and Congress has ZERO plan how to field a new aircraft, the F-35, while keeping everything else.
His suggestions were the f35 an ever failing aircraft that is full of problems. You cant make this shit up. Hes obviously a paid for low life. McCain owned him
Thank you.. we're keeping the hand of God
Rather than replacing the A-10, upgrade it. There is no other aircraft in the world that can do what it does.
facts, ask anyone who deployed
@@jaze0187 The one that saw it being used as CAS or used as precision ground strike ?
You can't upgrade aircraft forever. They have limits on the airframe.
@Fraser Fir What air force has the US faced? Iraqi planes never left the ground during invasion... People die in war
"The basic fact-no US ground troop has been killed in an attack by an enemy aircraft since 1953"
"Since 2001, the A-10 has been involved in four friendly fire incidents that killed 10 U.S. troops. The next highest is the B-1B bomber, which killed five soldiers last year in one incident. Friendly fire deaths are exceptionally rare. There have been 45 total friendly fire incidents out of about 140,000 missions flown by the Air Force, Navy and Marines."
Google the quote read some facts and pull your head out of the medias sand
@@f.a.2115 C-130J is most recent version of C130, updated from original C-130A from 1955. Just update the airplane and manufacture a new version like C130.
Same plane design, new version with new engines/props and payload capability
Just the sound alone of this weapon of war strikes fear into all our enemies. You hear seventy thirty caliber rounds a second hitting the ground in close proximity before you even hear the plane fire. Not only accurate, lethal, and versatile, its payload is threatening. The 30cal was enough, 1000 rounds max due to the weight. But it can still carry almost anything as well. Anti-air, air to ground heavy payloads. As the senator said; simply ask soldiers on the ground how effective this is.
You mean the soldiers not killed by it's inaccurate gun.
A-10 has the highest friendly fire rate. Hence why it got replaced by a crop duster lmao
It has the highest friendly fire rate according to Air Force stats that cherry-picked data, for years that showed what the Fighter Mafia wants to show.
If you include 2009 data, the B-1 is the top killer of friendlies and civilians.
When a government watchdog group called out the Air Force on their bullshit report, the USAF said they did NOT claim the A-10 had the worst friendly fire rate, and it’s not their fault some reporter put that in a headline.
The USAF spokesperson went on to say that the A-10 was the next most accurate plane after the F-15E and had the next lowest rate of friendly-fire per mission after the F-15E.
Meanwhile the F-15 and F-35 each cost 3 times more, per flight hour.
Amo o teu jeito de falar e de sorrir 😀
Sen. McCain knew something about the CAS mission. He spent half a decade tortured and chained to concrete and steel performing one in his A-4 Skyhawk. So effing funny that Secretary Air Force broad and Pentagon general tried to BS the Vietnam scooter driver...
Meu sónho é te conhecer General Mark
22 or 13
It will take an amazing machine to replace the A-10.
how the hell an army general involved in determine money used on equipment? military man should determine how to win a war with minimum casualties. if he/she is not worried about casualties, he is not qualified in this meeting.
So keeping in service the plane with one of the highest blue on blue record in history and has itself one of the lowest survivability record of any Fighter/attacker in US inventory, is the best way to win a war with minimum casualties ? Like, it doesn't even have the most amount of ground unit destroyed, the fricking F-111 aardvark which was retired in 1998 did that job better than the A-10
The A-10 is irreplaceable because of its mission.I will say it needs a couple of 50 Cals for straffing to make it perfect the big gun isn't needed for that but better for hardened targets
STEPHEN Nowinsky they are replaceable after so many thousands of flying hours; they are forced to retire. The F35 is the future.
@@Stangy04 why would ya wanna get rid of the best close air support aircraft in service? That just doesn’t make sense to me. F-35’s are expensive as hell! Who is gonna pay for them? The A-10 can dish out the punishment and it can take it. Why would ya wanna replace them best close air support plane in service so far.
@@cowboycamden5561 i didn't say I wanted them out of service but was pointing to the fact they are replaceable. According to Maj John Wilson(f35 pilot), most cas are not with A10s although A10s are the best for cas. Im looking at it from a logistical pov. It'll cost the AF more money to have the airframe which will come from parts, cost of training maintainers along with the lack of pilots and maintainers to begin with. The AF is working with what it has.
@@Stangy04 Enemy don't see/hear f35, enemy shaking when they see/hear a10.
@@cowboycamden5561 it's so good in CAS it is more feared by its allies than its enemies
You know what's actually embarassing? That Congress is telling the USAF to hurry up and field the F-35, develop new drones, and get rid of old aircraft, then whines and moans about the budget when the USAF attempts to fulfill any of those missions. For that man to tell the General that its somehow HIS FAULT that the AF is underfunded for what Congress wants it to accomplish is utterly disgraceful.
I never liked McCain until I flipped channels and caught this on CSPAN. All they have to do is remake the frames haha, thats the only thing with a time limit. c130 was updated over and over and over!
What a lot of people need to understand is that the Senator has been around and has seen some real shit and has grown up in different times so occasionally he will say some real shit.
Most air force pilots want turboprops
The Military-Industrial Complex, the one that keeps requesting expensive junk the military has not requested or needs in the future wars, the geniuses on the armed services committee recommended abolishing the A10 (which does not make enough month for some contractors) and swapping it out for more expensive platforms (F16, F15, B1-bomber) that would not serve as well. Sen. McCain pointed this out in a Senate Armed Services Committee.
The A-10 makes contractors a ton of money. Boeing alone made 2 billion off the re-winging program. The A-10 is an absolute money pit, but congressmen love to hide these costs.
Keep the A10, Retire Songbird McCain.
@0:31; And when you give your full divided attention to your stupid-phone during a debate, you sure give Americans the assurance that you actually give a hoot about participating in policy. John McCain is a wasted body in government. Gen. Mark Welsh, you have my complete support as to what you think is suitable and serves the best interests of the Air Force's defense. Thank you for your services Sir! ~an average Joe American citizen
+1Smoking Lizard Forgive me if I'm missing something obvious, but at what point was Mr. McCain preoccupied with his phone? I went back to 0:31 repeatedly, and I think one of the gentlemen in the back may have been on their phone, but not the man himself.Personally, I believe the Chairman makes a valid point about the need to acquire a replacement for the A-10 prior to its retirement; however, the manner in which he berated General Welsh's opinion was absolutely uncalled for. Although I disagree with his stance on the issue, I have faith that the General is simply trying to do what he thinks is right. He may just be seeing a different path to a common end goal, but McCain appears content on refusing to see things from another point of view... A very experienced and decorated one at that.
The air force wants to retire the A10 because close air support is used to defend troops on the ground. Specifically, the army and marines. He would like to see the army take over close air support and not burden the air force. Has nothing to do with whether this platform is effective enough. The A10 is a beast.
McCain is a total disgrace and ought to retire. Gen Welsh is a patriot, great american and fine man. As soon as congress appropriates the money to keep the A-10 which Gen Welsh has flown, then we'll do it. We're short 700 pilots and 4,000 maintainers to date and Congress has ZERO plan how to field a new aircraft, the F-35, while keeping everything else.
Lol Welsh is a fucking idiot who obviously knows Jack shit about the A10, it's really quite sad.
His suggestions were the f35 an ever failing aircraft that is full of problems. You cant make this shit up. Hes obviously a paid for low life. McCain owned him