Early Christian persecution and pagan persecution by Christians | a historical analysis(Part 2).
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Was the persecution of pagans worse and more brutal than the Early Christian Persecution?
In this two-part series, we will cover the history of the early Christian persecution in Rome. This will include why the roman pagans decided to persecute Christians, how extensive the persecution was as well as the often less talked about persecution of pagans by Christian emperors in late antiquity.
This video will cover the later pagan persecution by Christians and the demise of Greek-roman paganism.
See part 1 on the early Christian persecution: • Early Christian persec...
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Jean-Christophe BENOIST - Wikipedia.
Music Credits.
Magical forest, The Pyre, Lost frontier, and Virtutes Vortices by Kevin Macleod.
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Sources.
Pagans: The End of Traditional Religion and the Rise of Christianity(James O'Donnell, 2013).
The triumph of Christianity how a forbidden religion swept the world(Bart Ehrman, 2019).
Religious Dissent in Late Antiquity, 350-450. Link: www.oxfordscho...
The Archeology of Late Antique Paganism(Luke Lavan, 2011).
www.britannica...
See part 1 on the Early Christian persecution: ua-cam.com/video/x8rFQc165dA/v-deo.html&t
Just like in Scandinavia, early Christians and Pagans got along well :) It was mostly higher-status Nobles, Royalties and Priests who tried to vanquish the old faith. It's important to remember that now when Europe is pretty much under attack from foreign faiths. Pagans and Christians needs to unite under their national banner and stand up for their heritage!
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@@overlord5068 Either we unite for our nations and for Europa or Europa dies to Islam.
@@rickardt1222curb the xenophobia
@@bam_bino__ Looks like someone is coping with the Islamic future. Curb your lack of understanding.
Wait are you saying Constantine didn't put to death all non Christians in the empire saying 'convert or die!'? He didn't spread it by the sword?
Really I have heard that and all kinds of crazy ideas about the council of Nicaea.
Not to mention today we can condemn those emperors for the persecution they did do, going against Gods teachings.
That's correct Adam! Unfortunately to many people today rather rely on Dan Brown rather than actual scholarship when learning about early Christian history. :)
Lol, true - he wasn't even baptised before death, and that was by an Aryian bishop
Are you crazy? Who told you that?
We are not muslims
If you want to be honest that what they wanted to do as the decree stated in the video but due to decentralization it doesn't work
This was a great two part video series and looking forward to see more history videos from this channel.
Thx my friend! Will do 👌
I think the problem we see with making any kind of concrete statement about this topic is simply lack of robust and verifiable evidence. With the Christian persecution we have a wealth of testimony but how much of it can be trusted as 'gospel truth' (pun intended)? Even the Catholic church admits that many martyr stories were made up, take the example of Saint Eustace a saint supposedly killed using a 'brazen bull' torture device which is now considered completely implausible.
On the other side, we have few such stories about Hellenes being killed because why would it befit Christians to make themselves look like horrible murderers? So many Hellene sources were destroyed or erased such as Porphyry or Isidore's work that we can't tell what was going on.
You were making sense up til you claimed not many or no accounts of Hellenes/pagans being persecuted by christians
Remember history is told by the winner not the loser .
Cool, I like your style. Actually though I was expecting a video about the persecution of Pagans by Christians after the fall of the Western Roman Empire, but I guess you cover that in your Charlemagne series.
You did a good job of putting into perspective the scale and nature of both persecutions, and dismissing modern propaganda.
Many thanks Ivanon! Btw, did you get my late comment on the last video?
@@quillinkhistory9539 I didn't see that comment, no. Thank you for pointing it out to me.
I'll be interested to see what you work on next.
I hope you stay health in regards to the virus.
Wish you the same my friend! ❤️
Oh hey, I've seen you on Historian's Craft channel. What do you think of him after the whole Shad debacle?
@@flynn659 Are you referring to me?
For Christianity to exist today, countless people had to pay with their lives. Our Athenian Solon had published 10 commandments to describe a harmonious system. Moses took them to assign them divine origin and to lead people with faith. We Hellenes act according to knowledge, Christians according to faith. Plato and Moses were philosophers who argued about which facts were better. Science did not interest Christians, because they could not lead sheep with it, but they could with a religion. Who today describes himself as a proud Christian, carries the blood of innocent people on his hands, because the spread took place brutally, an organized extermination of many ethnicities worldwide, the Hellenic most, because you can not control logical thinking people, they had to prevent extremely, but even after thousands of generations, people never give up to hold on to what they believe in or what their ancestors believed in and we Hellenes will always be there, everywhere and at all times. Sorry for the orthodox greeks which call themselves HELLENES, we are NOT christians, because Christianity is NOT a natural continuation of Hellenism as you were educated from the Roman Byzantine side, the Romans built up Christianity in the name of the HELLEN, so that you believe it would all have gone naturally, MEGA mistake! Either you are Greek Romans or Hellenes "pagans", Hellenic Christians are a pure invention and thus explain historical crimes !!! History is always written by the winner, so don't just rely on public historical books, they are thoroughly revised, described, rewritten or filtered by religions in order to hide truths that could lead to disadvantage, look more intensively for sources that should not come to light, we definitely know more than you seem to know!
May Apollon give my Hellenic sisters and brothers eternal light and shape their lives poethically and harmoniously.
Really?
Cry more😂
What about christian persecution by pagans bruh!
@@enosangfengte4479 Clearly it didn’t work out too well because the majority of people on Earth are Christian. You’re not being oppressed unless we’re talking about you being in the Middle East. But anything that ISN’T Islam is being oppressed there so welcome to the club. 💀
Great work on both videos, learnt a lot also I found a source that I wanna share with you regarding an empress who at the behest of one of her subjects instigated some antichristian shenanigans, her behaviour didn't stem from antichristian sentiment but a desire to please said subject but yeah it's buried under a bunch of paper. I'll hopefully find it soon and share.
I managed to find the source i mentioned after searching for a while.
"We learn from Tacitus, Ann. XV. 39, that Nero was suspected to be the author of the great Roman conflagration, which
took place in 64 a.d. (Pliny, H. N. XVII. I, Suetonius, 38, and Dion Cassius, LXII. 18, state directly that he was the author of it),
and that to avert this suspicion from himself he accused the Christians of the deed, and the terrible Neronian persecution which
Tacitus describes so fully was the result. Gibbon, and in recent times especially Schiller (Geschichte der Römischen Kaiserzeit
unter der Regierung des Nero, p. 584 sqq.), have maintained that Tacitus was mistaken in calling this a persecution of Christians,
which was rather a persecution of the Jews as a whole. But we have no reason for impeaching Tacitus’ accuracy in this case,
especially since we remember that the Jews enjoyed favor with Nero through his wife Poppæa. What is very significant, Josephus
is entirely silent in regard to a persecution of his countrymen under Nero. We may assume as probable (with Ewald and Renan)
that it was through the suggestion of the Jews that Nero’s attention was drawn to the Christians, and he was led to throw the
guilt upon them, as a people whose habits would best give countenance to such a suspicion, and most easily excite the rage of
the populace against them. This was not a persecution of the Christians in the strict sense, that is, it was not aimed against their
religion as such; and yet it assumed such proportions and was attended with such horrors that it always lived in the memory of
the Church as the first and one of the most awful of a long line of persecutions instituted against them by imperial Rome, and it
revealed to them the essential conflict which existed between Rome as it then was and Christianity."
Eusebius Pamphilius: Church History
Great video dude, thanks!
mark tulo Many Thanks man! ⭐️
great video!👍
Thankyou Antony! :D
Seems an choice Bart Erman as reference material, I understand him to be a fallen and anti- Christian. Again an excellent presentation.
Constantius II didn't rule the entire Empire till 350, I wish you'd have mentioned Constans I who in the west was showing true Religious Tolerance at the same time.
That's an interesting point, do you know any good literature that cover that subject?
@@quillinkhistory9539 Not really, I know about from Wikipedia, and then wrote about it on my blog.
@@Kuudere-Kun What's the name of your blog? :)
@@quillinkhistory9539 My post where I discus Constans I is on SolaScripturaChristianLiberty.
But issues related to Roman Persecutions are usually talks about on AChronologicalViewOfRevelation. Both are BlogSpot blogs.
My Blogger Profile is linked to on my About Page
@@Kuudere-Kun name of the article?
Good video very informative and interesting
Happy to hear that you liked the video my friend! :D
Julian the Apostate????
Skipping right form Constantius II to Theodosius is pretty disappointing. Constans, Jovian, Valentinian I & and Eugenius were Nicene Christian Emperors who encourage Tolerance of the Pagans. Constantius II and Valens were Arians, Theodosius was the first Nicene Christian to make Paganism Illegal even on paper.
Same thing we do in India ✝️☦️
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But you fail miserably , cuz hindus are not so easy to fool like those european pagans.
Killing Hindu ?
You want to do video about Charles von habsburg? And the Italian Wars?
Blugale Doh not familiare with that, can you send a wiki article?
@@quillinkhistory9539 Charles was the first king of Spain and Holy Roman Emperor.
@@johnbross6065 Oh yes, I know.
@@johnbross6065 What I say was that Charles was the first king of Spain, never say he was the first Holy Roman Emperor.
When are you gonna talk about early Jewish persecution and continuous muslim persecution to this day.(transparency and equality)
Hi!
The main focus of this two-part series was to compare the early Christian and later pagan persecution in antiquity and I may do an additional video on the persecution of Jews in the roman empire if there is interest in it. I don't think persecution of Muslims is within the scope of this series since the period I'm covering predates Islam.
@@quillinkhistory9539- I think you are just scared to talk about islam. 3rd part persecution series I am afraid to talk about it (islam). No transparency here.
@@privateeye8023 I have no fear to talk about Islam nor any other religion for that matter. I'm just no interested in it and that's not going to change because a random commenter happen to have a persecution complex. If you want someone to do a video about it I recommend you ask Hikma history or Al Muqaddimah since they mainly focus on Islamic history.
@@quillinkhistory9539 A video about Jewish persecution during Roman times does sound quite interesting, especially considering theGreat Revolt, I would love to see one.
@@quillinkhistory9539- Chicken and afraid youtube is gonna demonetize the video. I guess you are all about the $$$ money. It's funny how many left wing historians are out there and bow down to the blasphemy laws of islam. (No equality and transparency in this channel). I suggest you folks find another one that is NOT a sissy.