I am Bulgarian and I've watched many podcasts with Karlos. He has said numerous times that his technique is not great, hence he's better at the clean & jerk where brute force is the main factor. He's working on improving his snatch though. He's not completely satisfied with it, despite the world record.
Yordan Mitkov Bulgarian lifter in the 70s would yank the bar from the floor and during the pull his torso would twist around. He lifted like he was having a seizure ! My friends and I saw him lift, along with David Rigert and other lifters from Russia and Bulgaria, in Gettysburg, PA. We were stunned at how bad he looked but he still lifted at a world class level.
In a word... no... Watched in slow motion his full extension with massive weights - which I've found to be the hardest part of the lift to master - is a thing of beauty... To do what he does, at the peak of human efficiency, his technique is solid in my book.
Very unusual and unique technique, especially for eastern european lifter. The biggest difference is that he keeps the bar in contact with the body all the way, like the chinese. You see (hear the friction) how he scrapes his shins, knees and thighs. His first pull is very slow and second pull even slower but then because he holds the bar so close he releases stored energy and uses his back and arms and powerfully and aggressively pulls himself under the bar. Not the classic soviet technique like Lasha, accelerating the bar, makes powerful contact, the bar flies and he goes under it. Then the fact that he jumps forward a little is not so bad. Dmitry Lapikov used to jump forward a little and he said it's not so bad.
He jumps forward because he hyper extends so much that bar is far away from him when he is at the peak of his hyper extension. So when he uses the bar the pull himself under at the third pull he pulls himself forward because the bar is far forward away from him because of his extreme hyper extension. Rhamaet is riziki is the same way. I think that might be the new revolutionary technique to pull a lot of weight.
It's been a fascination to me to watch Karlos lift. You at times see how he's jumping forward or unstable in the bottom of the catch, but at times he looks like his technique is so on point. Makes it difficult to assess as a noob when people say his technique has noticeable issues. This however cleared it up. Somehow he makes even the rough snatches look pretty good. Also thanks for these videos, the last few months of these technique videos (and talk about the importance of mobility exercise even when you don't have pains or big range issues) have caused me to catch the barbell at the bottom of the squat without odd leg angles and positions, as well as arms comfortably around the shoulder position (far enough in the back) and the barbell flipping there instead of being pressed. And the arms being much more stable base in the catch. The weights haven't improved, the training hasn't been olympic lifting focused, but I've got stronger, more powerful and more stable and I feel like the snatches are more aesthetic than they were. In short just seeing these videos shifts technique towards better.
As a Bulgarian I can tell you he has been lifting and winning since 12. If im not mistaken he has been using that technique for a long time now, since the beggining.
Yeah definitely would consider it an issue BUT I think jump forward takes precedent as his major issue. The arm would be an issue usually in terms of bar speed slow down but in his case that doesn't seem to happen too much.
@@sikastrength however dont you agree that (whether he intentionally means to or not idk) he autocorrects by how close the bar path is kept, like if you watch his cleans especially now you will see a minimal bar crash and amazing receiving height of his clean, similarly in the snatch his bar path is def wonky but because he jumps forward it helps him somewhat correct it no?
@@sikastrength thanks for the answer, sorry for my english i m italian. i said it because it s the first thing I noticed, is like the fact that he engages so much his forearms the transition at the hand seems not so smooth, this is the thing i noticed that seemed odd also compared to the older lifters which arms don t engage that much in the lift. The other thing i thought is that because his form in my opinion is a lot back focus, he doesn t use the legs a lot, he also pulls very aggressively so his center of mass must be more in front than if he tried to be as upright as possible and using a more quad dominant pull so maybe he is thinking too much on driving the bar up then diving under it so (?) i m guessing honestly
@@ix_9_ix in my opinion this reinforces the fact he has less technique in fact the clean is a more strenght movement, which is strange because in my opinion he has a structure more suitable to the snatch ( in fact he does 180 kg ). For what i saw personally the bar isn t close especially in the first pull so he maybe BRINGS himself closer jumping forward but the issue is in the first pull ( my opinion ) edit : i m not sure the second sentence i wrote makes sense😂 maybe he would jump behind in that case i m confused rethinking about it
I can’t stand the… but he’s winning argument, that’s not the point, the point is he could perform even better if he fixed his technique, and yes at that level it’s incredibly hard to implement technique changes but still.
Your body has a finite lifespan and you're currently performing as top of your class. If winning is the point, then what's the point in chasing technique changes that aren't needed? Making major adjustments could exhaust your important time.
It’s so hard to change technique in lifts. You can do it in training but from my experience at least it tends to creep back under pressure in competition.
It's the correct technique for his proportions and where he can catch it without the bar moving too far forward or backward. Doesn't matter where he lands if the bar goes straight up and down.
starting of the pull looks like his back is way stronger then his legs so the hips starts rising early combining knees caving in makes his technique not ideal but of course he makes up for it in other parts of the lift, also his pulling techniques is one of the reason his body goes into non ideal position maybe he would have better pull if his hips are higher and he starts from a static position
You really have to see how the Olympians train in Bulgaria, such conditions... I don't think there is anywhere else. He will continue to make great records! The whole world trains according to the Bulgarian method! China would never be the champions if it weren't for the Bulgarians' methods.
You will use this technique that allows you to lift more and not injure you depending on how your body reacts.There is no good or bad , this is not bodybuilding 🤣 depending on the genetics, the bones and the strong muscle groups, you will use that technique that allows you to lift the weight. The judge dont care how you lift if the weight is up and stable
Are we talking about the same guy? The one who just set a world record and became a World champion, Olympic champion and European champion within the same year?
You are talking about inconsistencies in technique about the world champion. I can't care less what newtonian physics say about energy preservation. If it works, it works! To analyse flaws in the top athlete instead of analyse what can be learnt from him is borderline stupid, no matter how many master degrees one has.
You can’t learn raw talent sir. Amazingly gifted athlete here, but lifters should look to other technicians to emulate. Asen Zlatev would be a good comparable example. Nasar is the champ and rightly so however.
Is it “bad” though?! He’s the best 89kg lifter currently and by a long shot, unless he bombs out or misses due to injury no one has the numbers to beat him
Are we talking about the same guy? The one who just set a world record and became a World champion, Olympic champion and European champion within the same year?
Funny isn't it 😂 I'm sure all the commentators here lift much more, then our Karlos 😅 400 kilos, that's nothing. I lift more with my breakfast cereal spoon...
Needs to go back to the PVC pipe.
Max PVC pipe for reps
You sound like you have never trained hard enough to have you're technique decline on heavy wheights or in other words you're not getting stronger
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@@Bukovphilip Тоя бако не знае какво говори, а? хахахаха
New world record and bad technique in same sentence
As uncle Abadjev would've said "my lifter's a champion, his technique is fine."
he probably would've yapped for 2 hours straight before getting there, though
I adore the lock out Karlos has. Even when he has to fight to stabilize the bar overhead the shoulder and elbow position is ROCK SOLID.
Yeah love the lockout
I am Bulgarian and I've watched many podcasts with Karlos. He has said numerous times that his technique is not great, hence he's better at the clean & jerk where brute force is the main factor. He's working on improving his snatch though. He's not completely satisfied with it, despite the world record.
Thank you for the comment! Some people get a bit defensive 🤣
Yordan Mitkov Bulgarian lifter in the 70s would yank the bar from the floor and during the pull his torso would twist around. He lifted like he was having a seizure ! My friends and I saw him lift, along with David Rigert and other lifters from Russia and Bulgaria, in Gettysburg, PA. We were stunned at how bad he looked but he still lifted at a world class level.
In a word... no... Watched in slow motion his full extension with massive weights - which I've found to be the hardest part of the lift to master - is a thing of beauty... To do what he does, at the peak of human efficiency, his technique is solid in my book.
Very unusual and unique technique, especially for eastern european lifter. The biggest difference is that he keeps the bar in contact with the body all the way, like the chinese. You see (hear the friction) how he scrapes his shins, knees and thighs. His first pull is very slow and second pull even slower but then because he holds the bar so close he releases stored energy and uses his back and arms and powerfully and aggressively pulls himself under the bar. Not the classic soviet technique like Lasha, accelerating the bar, makes powerful contact, the bar flies and he goes under it. Then the fact that he jumps forward a little is not so bad. Dmitry Lapikov used to jump forward a little and he said it's not so bad.
He hyperextends behind quite a bit, literally looking at the ceiling, yet he jumps forward. Interesting man, yet he wins everything lol
Well, 89k vs 180k that's the answer
He jumps forward because he hyper extends so much that bar is far away from him when he is at the peak of his hyper extension. So when he uses the bar the pull himself under at the third pull he pulls himself forward because the bar is far forward away from him because of his extreme hyper extension.
Rhamaet is riziki is the same way. I think that might be the new revolutionary technique to pull a lot of weight.
He tries to pull the weight towards him but the weight is just very heavy. So it will pull him.
For lower weights he won't have this issue.
@@MarkoAssi_pokervloggerhe jumps forward when snatching 50kg
Ask anton about it. He says how goofy his tech is but that he has the strength of farm animal.
I don't want to upset Anton 🤣
It's been a fascination to me to watch Karlos lift. You at times see how he's jumping forward or unstable in the bottom of the catch, but at times he looks like his technique is so on point. Makes it difficult to assess as a noob when people say his technique has noticeable issues. This however cleared it up. Somehow he makes even the rough snatches look pretty good.
Also thanks for these videos, the last few months of these technique videos (and talk about the importance of mobility exercise even when you don't have pains or big range issues) have caused me to catch the barbell at the bottom of the squat without odd leg angles and positions, as well as arms comfortably around the shoulder position (far enough in the back) and the barbell flipping there instead of being pressed. And the arms being much more stable base in the catch. The weights haven't improved, the training hasn't been olympic lifting focused, but I've got stronger, more powerful and more stable and I feel like the snatches are more aesthetic than they were. In short just seeing these videos shifts technique towards better.
As a Bulgarian I can tell you he has been lifting and winning since 12. If im not mistaken he has been using that technique for a long time now, since the beggining.
If the technique is bad and the result is better than everyone else, maybe just maybe the technique isn't bad
In my opinion maybe he bends his arms a little bit too much? So he must transition the barbell early and a bit more in front?
I don t know I m asking
Yeah definitely would consider it an issue BUT I think jump forward takes precedent as his major issue. The arm would be an issue usually in terms of bar speed slow down but in his case that doesn't seem to happen too much.
@@sikastrength however dont you agree that (whether he intentionally means to or not idk) he autocorrects by how close the bar path is kept, like if you watch his cleans especially now you will see a minimal bar crash and amazing receiving height of his clean, similarly in the snatch his bar path is def wonky but because he jumps forward it helps him somewhat correct it no?
@@sikastrength thanks for the answer, sorry for my english i m italian. i said it because it s the first thing I noticed, is like the fact that he engages so much his forearms the transition at the hand seems not so smooth, this is the thing i noticed that seemed odd also compared to the older lifters which arms don t engage that much in the lift. The other thing i thought is that because his form in my opinion is a lot back focus, he doesn t use the legs a lot, he also pulls very aggressively so his center of mass must be more in front than if he tried to be as upright as possible and using a more quad dominant pull so maybe he is thinking too much on driving the bar up then diving under it so (?) i m guessing honestly
@@ix_9_ix in my opinion this reinforces the fact he has less technique in fact the clean is a more strenght movement, which is strange because in my opinion he has a structure more suitable to the snatch ( in fact he does 180 kg ). For what i saw personally the bar isn t close especially in the first pull so he maybe BRINGS himself closer jumping forward but the issue is in the first pull ( my opinion ) edit : i m not sure the second sentence i wrote makes sense😂 maybe he would jump behind in that case i m confused rethinking about it
I wonder what Girth thinks the cause for the jump forward is
Basically his knees don't move back enough and as a result he brings his hips into the bar too soon
I can’t stand the… but he’s winning argument, that’s not the point, the point is he could perform even better if he fixed his technique, and yes at that level it’s incredibly hard to implement technique changes but still.
Your body has a finite lifespan and you're currently performing as top of your class. If winning is the point, then what's the point in chasing technique changes that aren't needed? Making major adjustments could exhaust your important time.
It’s so hard to change technique in lifts. You can do it in training but from my experience at least it tends to creep back under pressure in competition.
It's the correct technique for his proportions and where he can catch it without the bar moving too far forward or backward. Doesn't matter where he lands if the bar goes straight up and down.
Chaste and snatch-pilled.
Karlos obviously doesn't have a squat plug to keep his foot position grounded.
@sikastrength can you do Olivia reeves snatch? It’s so smooth would really like to hear what you say regarding technique
starting of the pull looks like his back is way stronger then his legs so the hips starts rising early combining knees caving in makes his technique not ideal but of course he makes up for it in other parts of the lift, also his pulling techniques is one of the reason his body goes into non ideal position maybe he would have better pull if his hips are higher and he starts from a static position
His pull is totally fine ahah The guy is already snatching Sorab Moradi numbers for gods sake
@@fmls8266 sure is but makes you wonder if he works on his technique could he lift even more, time will tell
Where did the latest Q&A go?
Audio wasn't good enough 😕
You really have to see how the Olympians train in Bulgaria, such conditions... I don't think there is anywhere else. He will continue to make great records! The whole world trains according to the Bulgarian method! China would never be the champions if it weren't for the Bulgarians' methods.
Marcin Dolega snatch analysis next?
is pr snatch 204 kilos? i dont think so?
You will use this technique that allows you to lift more and not injure you depending on how your body reacts.There is no good or bad , this is not bodybuilding 🤣 depending on the genetics, the bones and the strong muscle groups, you will use that technique that allows you to lift the weight. The judge dont care how you lift if the weight is up and stable
If Karlos jumps forward then so can I… I don’t care what my coach says
Bro i its clear he uses brute force and speed under the bar , just imagine if this guy had technique like gabriel sincrian .
Maybe Gabriel's training block will show us in a few months 🤔
Maybe.. you know when you're as strong as Achilles It don't matter
No such thing as snatching close to an Ali Time Wolrd Record with bad technique
lol so many lifter jump forward lol or sometime they don't even jump forward or back they stay in the center
Damn karlos needs to go back to 60kg 😅
Are we talking about the same guy? The one who just set a world record and became a World champion, Olympic champion and European champion within the same year?
You are talking about inconsistencies in technique about the world champion. I can't care less what newtonian physics say about energy preservation. If it works, it works! To analyse flaws in the top athlete instead of analyse what can be learnt from him is borderline stupid, no matter how many master degrees one has.
Didn't watch the whole video did you?
@@sikastrengththe old classic case of read the title, get emotional and make baseless assertions without actually watching the video😂
You can’t learn raw talent sir. Amazingly gifted athlete here, but lifters should look to other technicians to emulate. Asen Zlatev would be a good comparable example. Nasar is the champ and rightly so however.
Honestly his form is bad for pro level but I'm not much better
Is it “bad” though?! He’s the best 89kg lifter currently and by a long shot, unless he bombs out or misses due to injury no one has the numbers to beat him
Are we talking about the same guy? The one who just set a world record and became a World champion, Olympic champion and European champion within the same year?
Funny isn't it 😂
I'm sure all the commentators here lift much more, then our Karlos 😅 400 kilos, that's nothing. I lift more with my breakfast cereal spoon...
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