Yes agreed, However I reckon sound effects have been added/exaggerated for the tool changes, platform repositioning, and compartment door sliding. Added and exaggerated, just like in every tv nature documentary, (I cant watch them the added sound effects and background music drives me mad).
I'm trying to learn cnc plasma torch. I'm not that smart,been a welder my whole life I'm 46, I give u guys all the props for been able to do what u do,it's definitely not easy
Fun fact, there are more impellers being made at trade shows and in promotional videos than are actually needed by industry. This has tanked the global impeller market.
I'm guessing coolant was used with in between the sudden cuts. 4:57 There were no holes on the side when using what looked like an indexed endmill, after a cut there were multiple holes and new features.
This is right up there with a piece of jewelry with the finish and the visual texture!!! When you guys have a intricate part that is made from a hard to get material do you do a practice in a cheap material to make sure that it will meet specifications or does the program you are using able to do it in the virtual format first? I have always wanted to try this kind of work and know how to program it in the computer as well.
I usually don’t comment on videos but I just wanted to thank you for having a cinematic version, I greatly appreciate it. I’ll still be watching how you programmed it though XD
Been machining for 35 yrs. I have seen more complicated parts than these, but it is impressive to watch how things are done. But we machine a lot of titanium and exotic materials.
Great video even if the part is still unfinished, so the obvious question is: What will the part be used for? Do you have at least a pic of the finished part?
This part has a lot of fancy looking contours but it looks like not many things where high precision is needed. And its aluminium, so very easy to machine. Parts get complicated with precision and special tolerance requirements, not volume of machining or fancy looking contours...
I have found that complicated and difficult are two very different things. Complicated parts often have lots of features that combine together to make a lot of busy work to program just from the sheer volume of details that need to be addressed. Whereas some of the most difficult parts to make are incredibly simple prints that have some very demanding tolerances, thin walls left and right, long reaches, and nowhere good to hold it.
I was wondering if there would've been a cycle time benefit to rough as much of the OD as you could with a continuous rotary motion before resorting to the multiple rotated optiroughs? Milling that giant undercut at the base with the long reach inserted tool at 4:38 was wicked fast comparatively. It seems like there'd be a lot more time spent with the tool in the cut and a lot less wasted linking motion? To be clear, I've never done anything like this using either method, just curious!
Id like to see what your cycle times are more. Just out of curiosity. Even what the estimates are. I know there is a bunch of things to factor in because of filming and such.
In Mastercam, I used the rotary axis control tab and told it to output 3 axis motion with Z as my rotary axis. Some machines are setup with a switch in the mis. values tab that turns polar interpolation on or off. But that's Mastercam specific so if youre using something else, it may be different
Awesome work guys! just remember, the nail that sticks out gets the hammer. keep sticking out guys, it's what separates the fadal users from the heller guys🦾keep up the good work and thanks for your videos!
When you have the very best of everything it’s not hard doing parts like this. Living in the real world without having the partnerships y’all have is quite another story. Not a hater , just envious. Haters say what you will but Tyson is an amazing guy and I applaud his promotion and training.
7:07 the circle on top is milled with the X/Z milling system of the mill, you can clearly see it's not perfectly round ? Why not directly use the circular feature of the 4/5th axis to make it perfectly round? Well the part looks a bit unfinished anyway so possibly those steps are just not shown..
If only I was able to prove these out before the video LOL. We very rarely do that, especially with large expensive pieces of material. But most of the time it would be proven out in a verification software like Vericut
What software do you guys prefer? I was trained on MasterCam but I’ve used solidworks, fusion 360, and I’m currently using inventor. I find I enjoy the CAD side of Inventor/fusion to be better than MasterCam but I like MasterCams tool paths more. Interested in hearing your thoughts.
@barrysetzer Nice Job! but why don't you use the mill turn capability of the machine for that bore and the flanges? Or does this machine configuration not have the direct drive rotary table?
Alot if not all aerospace and defense contractors usually have non disclosure agreements with allowing parts or processes to be videotaped or photographed by third party vendors.
It is much easier if you work for a defense contractor. Then it's just game on. Sadly, after many years, you forget how cool it all is. I imagine it's the same with any job, though.
Not the video part. That's a no-go. I was referring to just being around it all the time. It's interesting to watch them just run amazing machines for just the fun of it.
@@alexblackIV since the video is still up 3 weeks later, with 300k views... Maybe someone is wrong about what is sensitive material. Ever consider this part isn't all that "secret" and the video is just showing a different way to make a complex part
Using 3 axis, I was going to run into overtravels at the bottom of the part, because the stock takes up almost the whole work envelope. Other than that, there isn't a benefit other than looking cooler!
the skill is in programming approach - sure the canned routines are pure software macros, but the machinist thought / processes and plus their programming knowledge and machine tool knowledge and speed of actual part programming are all very important metrics of a modern programmer / operator.
High-quality raw materials combined with excellent craftsmanship produce a perfect finished product. I hope my materials can also be displayed in this way. I will make it happen.😃
The music volume in this video was just perfect. Thank you!
Agreed!
Yes agreed, However I reckon sound effects have been added/exaggerated for the tool changes, platform repositioning, and compartment door sliding. Added and exaggerated, just like in every tv nature documentary, (I cant watch them the added sound effects and background music drives me mad).
Thank you for letting us hear the cut!
I particularly liked the percussion section. I wonder how long those glass instruments last though.
I'm glad there are people out there willing to do this.
Finally! A machining video without crappy music! Some narration is fine though.
Wdym? The sound alone IS music from how beautiful it sounds
BOOM! Always love the raw machining with a little talking at the end 💥
It’s a privilege to watch this. Thank you for posting!
Question: I have to ask, WHAT IS IT AND WHAT DOES IT DO ???
It looks like the front end of a fighter jet engine.
Jet engine IMC
Good to know, thanks
What is it? CNC “art”
What’s it do? Make you watch a video.
Simple as that.
three men can keep a secret if two of them are dead...
I'm trying to learn cnc plasma torch. I'm not that smart,been a welder my whole life I'm 46, I give u guys all the props for been able to do what u do,it's definitely not easy
The chip evacuation looks amazing on this machine. No places to hide.
As a CNC machinist who operates simple machines, this gave me goosebumps.
Ditto!
Love the chain drilling for clearing material quick nice work
That is a work of art , well done
I have spent 40 years in machine shops as a machinist and engineer. I still love it.
Fun fact, there are more impellers being made at trade shows and in promotional videos than are actually needed by industry. This has tanked the global impeller market.
And to be honest, I think laser cutting is reallly better than that which is faster, less time and efficient
@@Bryantshuoyang雷 I would like to see a laser cut a part like this. Oh, it can't?
I'm guessing coolant was used with in between the sudden cuts. 4:57 There were no holes on the side when using what looked like an indexed endmill, after a cut there were multiple holes and new features.
Barry that was zen like to watch. Brilliant.
I have work day tomorrow. Why am i watching this. And why i love it?
Does it have a purpose or just a flex to show what this Heller machine can do? Either way, it's beautiful and mesmerizing to watch. Thanks!
Looks like part of a Turbine Center Frame or a turbine rear frame. But hard to tell for sure
PERFECt VIDEO!! The sound of the machining and the visual it was just cathartic as hell!!
Most complicated part ever is actually…an aluminum nacho cheese fountain 😅😂
Finnaly my New Set of rims for my Bugatti is ready
No shit. That's what I was thinking
I’m more interested in how you agreed with the customer regarding the sizes of the rough surfaces and their facets
There are a lot
Amazing work . A true combination of Art and technology.
No music, no bullshit, just footage. PERFECT
This is right up there with a piece of jewelry with the finish and the visual texture!!!
When you guys have a intricate part that is made from a hard to get material do you do a practice in a cheap material to make sure that it will meet specifications or does the program you are using able to do it in the virtual format first? I have always wanted to try this kind of work and know how to program it in the computer as well.
But what is it? You gotta put some context to the video otherwise your just sharpening pencils.
its some sort of an impeller
Just enjoy the process my dude.
I usually don’t comment on videos but I just wanted to thank you for having a cinematic version, I greatly appreciate it. I’ll still be watching how you programmed it though XD
Been machining for 35 yrs. I have seen more complicated parts than these, but it is impressive to watch how things are done. But we machine a lot of titanium and exotic materials.
6:13
Why don't you ream it earlier, when you have more surrounding material for stability?
Great video even if the part is still unfinished, so the obvious question is: What will the part be used for? Do you have at least a pic of the finished part?
Beautiful work, and massive machine!
Um nobody thought to mention what the hell it is they were making??? I guess it’s a decorative pot
an impellor
This part has a lot of fancy looking contours but it looks like not many things where high precision is needed. And its aluminium, so very easy to machine. Parts get complicated with precision and special tolerance requirements, not volume of machining or fancy looking contours...
I have found that complicated and difficult are two very different things. Complicated parts often have lots of features that combine together to make a lot of busy work to program just from the sheer volume of details that need to be addressed. Whereas some of the most difficult parts to make are incredibly simple prints that have some very demanding tolerances, thin walls left and right, long reaches, and nowhere good to hold it.
ah - the pure joy of pure heavy cnc metal machining - nothing better to doze off after a stressful day - I don't just like it - I LOVE it
Absolutely utterly insane in a good way.
Doesn't get any better than this
So this is how wagon wheel pasta is made! Never knew new it was so hard! keep up the good work!
If someone asked me to debur that, youd find me the next morning hanging from the crane
Maybe a trophy for a race event. Looks kind of like a wheel
With the money that would cost as a trophy would be better put as the actual winnings
2:05 That is so satisfying! Great Job Barry!
Hello Barry
Thank you for this video
What does this part do?
I was wondering if there would've been a cycle time benefit to rough as much of the OD as you could with a continuous rotary motion before resorting to the multiple rotated optiroughs? Milling that giant undercut at the base with the long reach inserted tool at 4:38 was wicked fast comparatively. It seems like there'd be a lot more time spent with the tool in the cut and a lot less wasted linking motion? To be clear, I've never done anything like this using either method, just curious!
At first I thought it was some big ass rims for a Bentley or something. lol. I’m a simpleton. Hahaha
Id like to see what your cycle times are more. Just out of curiosity. Even what the estimates are. I know there is a bunch of things to factor in because of filming and such.
For this operation the cycle time was around 4 hours. But that's not a bad idea for future videos actually
Very cool processing and a very complex geometric detail I like this channel ❤❤❤❤❤
I thought it was going to be a rim for a tire.What is it?
At 0:26 Name of the program is "Impeller12".
Is this part machined this way because it's the best way or the best video? Either way pretty cool.
was the last tool a straigh fluted drill? also finishing and OP20 in the next video?
I would love to see a video of how long it takes to QC a part that complicated.
I want to know how you forced the CAM to spin the C axis instead of just moving in X and Y
In Mastercam, I used the rotary axis control tab and told it to output 3 axis motion with Z as my rotary axis. Some machines are setup with a switch in the mis. values tab that turns polar interpolation on or off. But that's Mastercam specific so if youre using something else, it may be different
Managed to cram every tool path available into one display piece 🎉
Is there gonna be any finishing? Seems to me that it was just roughed and half done...
Crazy!! Nice job!!!
i start classes MONDAY!! fascinating!!
Do you heat treat the wheels when you’re all done?
do you ever seen the finished product in these videos??
What is done for deburring? is there a video?
Awesome work guys! just remember, the nail that sticks out gets the hammer. keep sticking out guys, it's what separates the fadal users from the heller guys🦾keep up the good work and thanks for your videos!
Cant wait for the next video!
When you have the very best of everything it’s not hard doing parts like this. Living in the real world without having the partnerships y’all have is quite another story. Not a hater , just envious. Haters say what you will but Tyson is an amazing guy and I applaud his promotion and training.
7:07 the circle on top is milled with the X/Z milling system of the mill, you can clearly see it's not perfectly round ? Why not directly use the circular feature of the 4/5th axis to make it perfectly round? Well the part looks a bit unfinished anyway so possibly those steps are just not shown..
there is orders like that or only for testing ,, how much worth this work
Thanks for the video but I want know how to use solid works software
So nice. Can you share the end use
Is it a actual customers or just showing the machine and tooling for your sponsors ?
well, except for the "Siemens" at the beginning, there was no tooling description this time 🤔
Machine show off
Doesn’t matter it’s machining for real😂 don’t you see?
The blank seems rather large, is that a standard size? 😮
How many pages is the process worksheet for this part, and did the customer have to approve it prior to production?
Those U-Drills are 🔥🔥🔥
should have drilled side holes on the face before it was thin wall(roughed from sides)
Same question here!!
Fair play, that's one fancy wheel rim
Nice Video. That thumb mail though of Barry lol
hahaha
I used to make tons of those on the old bridgeport in the shop, lol
I used to hand chisel a ton of these in the shop, lol
Yes normally I would have used a file, but i was tired that day
Kids these days and their computers pfffft
@@alexduke5402hahaha
How the hell do you proof a program for a part like that? and what the hell is it?
If only I was able to prove these out before the video LOL. We very rarely do that, especially with large expensive pieces of material. But most of the time it would be proven out in a verification software like Vericut
When will you finish it?
Mind Blowing
What software do you guys prefer? I was trained on MasterCam but I’ve used solidworks, fusion 360, and I’m currently using inventor. I find I enjoy the CAD side of Inventor/fusion to be better than MasterCam but I like MasterCams tool paths more. Interested in hearing your thoughts.
Mastercam the best❤
@@albert1840 what do you like about it?
Is it realtime machining ?
Or what was the machiningtime for this nice part ?
Volume up! 🎶 Sooo cool!
@barrysetzer Nice Job! but why don't you use the mill turn capability of the machine for that bore and the flanges? Or does this machine configuration not have the direct drive rotary table?
This machine doesn't have turning capabilities. But I am also not great with lathes. big heavy stuff spinning scares me a little hahaha
I didn't see any lubricant/coolant. How do you take care of heat dissipation?
The tools have compressed air running through them to clear chips quickly and cool the material. 👍
Why didn't they machine a casting ?
more of these kind of videos
Alot if not all aerospace and defense contractors usually have non disclosure agreements with allowing parts or processes to be videotaped or photographed by third party vendors.
And others, have disclosure agreements.
It is much easier if you work for a defense contractor. Then it's just game on. Sadly, after many years, you forget how cool it all is. I imagine it's the same with any job, though.
Not the video part. That's a no-go. I was referring to just being around it all the time. It's interesting to watch them just run amazing machines for just the fun of it.
@@alexblackIV since the video is still up 3 weeks later, with 300k views... Maybe someone is wrong about what is sensitive material.
Ever consider this part isn't all that "secret" and the video is just showing a different way to make a complex part
Can you machine a non-manifold geometry?
Better hope the chip conveyor doesn’t stop working
What are the pro‘s with roughing these pockets with the c axis instead of just using x and y?
Using 3 axis, I was going to run into overtravels at the bottom of the part, because the stock takes up almost the whole work envelope. Other than that, there isn't a benefit other than looking cooler!
Mat Armstrong's wheel designs are getting ridiculous 😂
I would like to see normal sized parts and maybe a little talk over the CAM settings and feeds and speeds.
Not complicated just huge. No tolerance. No finish. Software did most of the work.
obviously it's just roughed out
the skill is in programming approach - sure the canned routines are pure software macros, but the machinist thought / processes and plus their programming knowledge and machine tool knowledge and speed of actual part programming are all very important metrics of a modern programmer / operator.
Do it
This is therapeutic for me. Just saying. 😎🤙💯
I've machined parts before where I had to sign a letter of confidentiality.
Hence why we don't see the finished product and what it's for!
Da geht einem das Fräserherz auf ❤
Barry how long did that bad boy take to program???
What was the price of this part?
Either made for oil, water or aviation applications. That’s sweet whatever it it is.
This is MINDBLOWINGLY INSANE!!!!! 😮
I love this!
High-quality raw materials combined with excellent craftsmanship produce a perfect finished product. I hope my materials can also be displayed in this way. I will make it happen.😃
Cutting aluminum is rather easy. We used to cut massive panels of titanium for aircraft landing gear. And those were the small pieces we made.