RUNWAY INCURSION. Controller saved two airplanes at Burbank Airport. Real ATC Audio

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2024

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  • @hankhulator5007
    @hankhulator5007 8 місяців тому +35

    Hi, this is why good ground RADAR is so important (imagine the same situation in a clogged fog) - hail ATC for the lightning fast reaction.

  • @DBR00
    @DBR00 8 місяців тому +21

    Extremely professional pilots and controller.

    • @MrBadger1978
      @MrBadger1978 7 місяців тому

      I wouldn't say so. Non standard and panicky phraseologies by the controller.

  • @marklupus
    @marklupus 8 місяців тому +13

    That's why it's so important to constantly scan all your movement areas. I had a feeling that AMF thought he missed C-6 or perhaps thought 15 was his turn off.

    • @phishbill
      @phishbill 8 місяців тому +2

      I'm thinking your second guess was the case. And in this case, AMF almost stood for Adios, Mother F......

  • @dougie9184
    @dougie9184 8 місяців тому +8

    We all make mistakes. Controller was all over it thankfully.

  • @clarkhowell8267
    @clarkhowell8267 8 місяців тому +4

    Would be nice to have dates for these incidents.....

  • @morrij01
    @morrij01 8 місяців тому +1

    I worked a tower with a similar runway config and this type of situation happening terrified me. People first come in wanting to work tower rather than radar, only until something like this happens. As a tower you're at the mercy of pilots, often times VFR pilots with little flying experience. I regularly had small Cessnas confusing RJs for Boeings and or airbus in the pattern. I would regularly kick them out of the pattern when it got busy, but when it happens with an airline plane it's often unexpected.

  • @EddyFreddyful
    @EddyFreddyful 8 місяців тому +3

    What happened with Bigstripe 111? They were cleared to land runway 8, then noted at 2.5 mile final, then no more mentions.
    I suspect they were sent around and that part of the audio was edited out.

    • @jh.4770
      @jh.4770 8 місяців тому +1

      Likely they were still allowed to land since Southwest went into the hold area off of taxiway alpha

  • @amyb7712
    @amyb7712 8 місяців тому +6

    It didn't seem to me ATC anything wrong. I agree with the title for this video. He apologized several times. Instead of "that's okay" from the SW pilot, I felt like it would be more appropriate to thank him profusely!

    • @jasonkimball7617
      @jasonkimball7617 8 місяців тому

      Well you're not the pilot who was delayed with a now increased workload. No one is happy at that point. Pilot had a great attitude and response.

    • @adammiller9179
      @adammiller9179 11 днів тому

      @@jasonkimball7617 1943 was instructed to turn right at C6 and he went past it and nearly into the runway of the plane clear to take off.

  • @johnpatrick1588
    @johnpatrick1588 8 місяців тому +2

    I don't know how accurate the diagram is but if a plane has entered an active runway I don't think I would tell him to hold on the conflict runway. If it actually enters i think I would say expedite crossing the runway without delay because you may get run over.

  • @louisg3598
    @louisg3598 8 місяців тому

    Are ground signs too confusing? ATC read Charlie 6 and Charlie, and the pilot read it back - but still blew past Charlie 6 - so is the issue poor signage?

    • @zaizhouyang8461
      @zaizhouyang8461 6 місяців тому +1

      Not unlikely ,there will be runway entre signage at the intersection of two runways ,which he definetly ignored .

  • @johnpatrick1588
    @johnpatrick1588 8 місяців тому

    Can be safer when airports using intersecting runways to use LAHSO for landing traffic. Land and Hold Short Operations so the pilots know not to enter or cross another active runway.

  • @jameswest8280
    @jameswest8280 8 місяців тому

    I wonder how many pilots get a number to call during their career, I'm guessing a lot.

  • @garygolfer3243
    @garygolfer3243 8 місяців тому

    Hey! I’ve flown to and through Burbank on big stripe a few times. 👍

  • @EdOeuna
    @EdOeuna 8 місяців тому +2

    The only thing wrong with this indecent is that the Metro pilot said he could make an exit but physically couldn’t. This then nearly led to a collision with an aircraft rolling. This is a good reflection of the fragility of the US system and how vulnerable it is to minor mistakes.

    • @jasonkimball7617
      @jasonkimball7617 8 місяців тому

      Who said he physically couldn't?

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna 8 місяців тому

      @@jasonkimball7617 - he didn’t vacate where he said he would, so he physically couldn’t obey the r request.

    • @jasonkimball7617
      @jasonkimball7617 8 місяців тому +1

      @@EdOeuna No, that's not correct. He physically could but didn't, that's why tower got upset with him and that's why he apologized.

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna 8 місяців тому +2

      @@jasonkimball7617 - but he kept too much speed on, swerved a bit, realised he couldn’t make it, and then continued on the runway, apparently. Lesson learned in two parts. Don’t speak on the radio when;you’re in your landing roll. Don’t accept requests from ATC that you aren’t 100% sure you can make. This will end up being a positive lesson for this guy, lasting them their career.

    • @alphamaccao5224
      @alphamaccao5224 8 місяців тому

      @@EdOeuna He PHYSICALLY COULD he just fucked up and didn't. Shut up and sit down stupid one.

  • @clqudy4750
    @clqudy4750 8 місяців тому

    "Hold. Hold, hold, HOLD!" Sigh..
    "Southwest cancel takeoff clearance"
    "AM flight 1953- firewall throttles, proceed to crash and die."
    "Southwest, clear to crash into tower, I quit!"

  • @Jedward108
    @Jedward108 8 місяців тому

    Non-professional here -- It's not clear to me who made the mistake.

    • @larrysulky7614
      @larrysulky7614 8 місяців тому +7

      AmFlight 1943 did not turn off at the designated intersection, C6. He kept going onto the active departure runway without clearance. That's why he was given a phone number to call for possible pilot deviation.

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna 8 місяців тому +1

      ⁠@@larrysulky7614- the metro pilots only mistake was to accept a clearance which he then missed. However, it was his runway, and getting another aircraft to depart and crossing an occupied runway is also pretty dodgy. This just shows the fragility of airport operations in the US.

    • @Jedward108
      @Jedward108 8 місяців тому

      ​@@larrysulky7614I understand that but why was ATC so apologetic? Maybe he was just emotional from realizing a disaster was avoided.

    • @larrysulky7614
      @larrysulky7614 8 місяців тому

      @@Jedward108 -- I often hear ATC apologizing (but lightly, like "Sorry about that") for situations that were not their fault. But I'm sure he was emotional too.

    • @larrysulky7614
      @larrysulky7614 8 місяців тому

      @@EdOeuna -- "Fragility". I have to agree. If ATC is going to permit cross-runway operations, they'd better be absolutely sure that no one will need to cross a runway that someone is landing on or taking off from.

  • @robertscranton8293
    @robertscranton8293 8 місяців тому +1

    I have no idea what I am doing in this airplane...hahah...but I am LGptq++++222...and I am stuck in the onboard toilet!!