For those who haven't heard of this brand, I bought a Netec 256MB usb dongle decades ago for about 50 USD, LoL. It should still be working but I'm running an army of NVME now, so who cares. This is a know tech brand from China and have a long history.
Just wanted to say that I believe the graphs could be represented better for example by adding a subtitle reporting exactly the scope of the test. Simply so that what you say is also matched by what is on screen, this also helps viewers (in this case like me) that don't have a lot of time and partially skip through the video looking for specific tests. example: 5:36 without listening to your explanation a viewer only knows that a benchmark was done but it is not clear what was tested or what is represented on the x-axis, also at the top of the chart there are a blue and red squares which do not match anything on screen. or again at 6:21 the graph reports "Score" for the x-axis, although this is not technically wrong it can still be unclear if the result is in "points" (given by the software) or MB/s
The nv7000 is great. I bought one like a year ago or so when ssd prices were a lot higher. It was the cheapest ssd with dram I could find. And now that I have a few more, like the p5 plus and the sn850x, and the nv7000 is actually the fastest. Well it trades blows with the sn850x.
I found that in the mid tier section....like Kioxia Exceria G2 (all of their entry G2~Kioxia Exceria Plus and Pro both high end have Dram) tend to do better compared to Dramless SSD IF you are transfering more than 100GB...thats like IMHO where dramless SSD seem to crash....
Newer SSD's do not require DRAM as they use HBM3.0 due to superior speed but adds to increased costs only lower end Gen 4 or Gen 5 SSD's will use DRAM even DDRM6 is too slow at 7+ Gigs a Sec in reality without adding Alot more of it
I just love my Firecuda 530s - have 2 of the one terabyte drives in raid 0 and get gen 5 speeds . Love the TBW rating - although probably none would ever even fail before they were upgraded . Finally where technology is good enough and not really needing another upgrade for a long time to come . Also the first time in my life - where I spent over 400 dollars for a motherboard and 200 dollars for an nvme drive . Of course nvme prices dropped like a rock after I paid full price - LoL !!
SSD itself is good enough and fast enough. But the duration and stability is far more important. Samsung 990 Pro is fast at the beginning but it slows down very quickly. This kind of tests can't tell the whole picture.
Really liked it - the whole format and segmentation by use case is really practical! I notice that there’s no WD drives on the chart, is it because they rank below the lowest one displayed?
Just curious, but how come you didn't use any WD m.2s in the graph? Sn850, Sn850x, or (Sn770 if you wanted a good comparison of an m.2 w/out dram cache.)
I watched this video comparing dram vs dram-less ssd performance for video editing, but it only showed the benchmark score. I’m curious about how they perform in real life scenarios. Has anyone used dram-less ssd for video editing and can share their experience? How satisfied are you with the speed and stability of your dram-less ssd? Do you think it’s worth getting a dram ssd instead? I would appreciate any feedback from you.
Agreed. I grabbed a bunch off of amazon partially because I wanted to try them and partially because the 1tb's were on sale for like $50. 1 in a laptop, 2 mirrored in a server for storage for VM's. Probably going to use another one to upgrade a mini PC. Bang for buck really hard to beat
yea this things are getting cheap! I bought a Kingston NV2 1TB for 38$ (New), not a good drive but plenty fast for what I have to use it for. And that is actually 2$ cheaper than the cheapest 1TB HDD (at least in my country). Few years ago thinking of having a 1TB+ game library (which considering the size of new games is not hard to achieve) on NVMe meant spending something like 350$ (for a 2TB drive).
@@mastroitek I hear you! NVME , RAM and CPU prices are pretty great right now. PSU, GPU and motherboard prices still stink. The Kingston NV2 is a good middle of the road NVME. For the price it is amazing. Any NVME made by a big player like Kingston, ADATA, Team Group, Mushkin, etc. are going to be good drives with rock bottom prices right now.
Hdd are good for torrent download especially 100gb over with 1gb broadband over. If you do this on Nvme your cpu will go Berserk € Don't believe that nvme are the best thing for you .Nvme is good for short high speeds but for long copying and large files Nvme are way to slow and give a strain on cpu. I know because I have an 7800x3d and 7900 xtx.owner of hdd and Nvme Reviewers are doing useless test , not relative to real world work.
Is there any additional setup involved to use an additional ssd as a cache drive? Physically installing the hardware is simple enough. Searching how to set it up in Windows I get several very different answers
How are you getting such slow sequential read and write speed results from Crystal Disk Mark? With my Seagate Firecuda 530 2TB my read/write results are: - SEQ1M Q8T1 = 7353 MB/s read --- 6956 MB/s write - SEQ128K Q32T1 = 7285 MB/s read --- 6908 MB/s write - RND4K Q32T16 = 4247 MB/s read --- 6265 MB/s write - RND4K Q1T1 = 77 MB/s read --- 296 MB/s write Your graphs show 6962 MB/s read and 6865 MB/s write for the Firecuda 530 2TB. Every other SSD seems to be under-performing too.
I think it's coz I'm testing it on a gen 4x4 slot through chipset not through CPU perhaps the latency there. But the point is to have all these SSDs tested in the same environment to see how they compare to each other?
I don't see you talking about Kioxia SSDs, is there a reason for that? I have a Kioxia Exceria Pro 1TB, I bought it because it is very fast, top performance, unfortunately at the time I didn't realize that it doesn't have hardware encryption, but other than that it seems like a top SSD.
If it supports Host Memory Buffer (HMB), yes. HMB allows the SSD to use your main system RAM for caching. Most DRAMless M.2 SSDs, including the NV7000-T, support HMB. SATA SSDs do not support HMB. An SSD with onboard DRAM will normally perform a bit better though, especially when your system RAM is being used heavily by other tasks.
NEVER EVER BUY THIS. DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. IT BROKEN AFTER ABOUT 1 YEAR OF USAGE. SO I SENT IT FOR RMA SERVICE, THEY SEND ME BACK ANOTHER BROKEN SSD AND NEGLECT ALL OF MY MESSAGES DELIBERATELY.
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For those who haven't heard of this brand, I bought a Netec 256MB usb dongle decades ago for about 50 USD, LoL. It should still be working but I'm running an army of NVME now, so who cares. This is a know tech brand from China and have a long history.
👍LOL at anything but NVME in 2023! 😃
I don't know them, but I did buy one of their NVME drives for my PS5
Just wanted to say that I believe the graphs could be represented better for example by adding a subtitle reporting exactly the scope of the test. Simply so that what you say is also matched by what is on screen, this also helps viewers (in this case like me) that don't have a lot of time and partially skip through the video looking for specific tests.
example: 5:36 without listening to your explanation a viewer only knows that a benchmark was done but it is not clear what was tested or what is represented on the x-axis, also at the top of the chart there are a blue and red squares which do not match anything on screen.
or again at 6:21 the graph reports "Score" for the x-axis, although this is not technically wrong it can still be unclear if the result is in "points" (given by the software) or MB/s
i have no frickin idea which m2 he tested whether with or without dram lmao i gotta look for a different reviewer than this dude
Didn't know Samsung 980 is that bad😂
Loving this channel more everyday… I think it has ESP… I was looking for a new SSD and boom… awesome content keep it up!
I still use the Intel 670P 2TB as a game drive. 2TB at $65.00 is a steal.
The nv7000 is great. I bought one like a year ago or so when ssd prices were a lot higher. It was the cheapest ssd with dram I could find. And now that I have a few more, like the p5 plus and the sn850x, and the nv7000 is actually the fastest. Well it trades blows with the sn850x.
And it's very price competitive, that is important as well.
I just love such review videos where we get so much information about all the stuff before buying them. Thank you for such video do keep them coming.
feels like you're new to the internet... if a video is sponsored you need to watch it with a big grain of salt
@@voice5sur5 I know that. I am not taking everything to its word but appreciating someone’s effort doesn’t hurt
Your timestamp shows sponsored for the entire second part. Intro - Sponsored Segment - Just wanted to let you know.
I know you did say this was kinda of sponsored but still fyi.
Or maybe it is....🤔🤔🤔
Sorry, my bad, I'll fix that the timestamps didn't save the chapters if you see in the bottom of the video description 😇👍
I found that in the mid tier section....like Kioxia Exceria G2 (all of their entry G2~Kioxia Exceria Plus and Pro both high end have Dram) tend to do better compared to Dramless SSD IF you are transfering more than 100GB...thats like IMHO where dramless SSD seem to crash....
Newer SSD's do not require DRAM as they use HBM3.0 due to superior speed but adds to increased costs only lower end Gen 4 or Gen 5 SSD's will use DRAM even DDRM6 is too slow at 7+ Gigs a Sec in reality without adding Alot more of it
I bought the NV7000 2TB for my PS5 on aliexpress and it's been working fine
I just love my Firecuda 530s - have 2 of the one terabyte drives in raid 0 and get gen 5 speeds . Love the TBW rating - although probably none would ever even fail before they were upgraded . Finally where technology is good enough and not really needing another upgrade for a long time to come . Also the first time in my life - where I spent over 400 dollars for a motherboard and 200 dollars for an nvme drive . Of course nvme prices dropped like a rock after I paid full price - LoL !!
Just for curiosity: how do you take advantage of gen5 speeds?
i just order a Firecuda 530 2TB for 113 euro
SSD itself is good enough and fast enough. But the duration and stability is far more important. Samsung 990 Pro is fast at the beginning but it slows down very quickly. This kind of tests can't tell the whole picture.
What’s a more reliable one? I’m looking to buy a new one and stuck between speeds and reliability
Really liked it - the whole format and segmentation by use case is really practical! I notice that there’s no WD drives on the chart, is it because they rank below the lowest one displayed?
Just curious, but how come you didn't use any WD m.2s in the graph? Sn850, Sn850x, or (Sn770 if you wanted a good comparison of an m.2 w/out dram cache.)
honest answer, I don't have samples of them! :)
@@theTechNotice I like the honesty! If you get the chance, scoop up at least the sn770 & sn850. Great m.2s
Got the sn850 and for the buck its an absolute banger. You should compare it when possible :)
thats another reason why dislike ratio is almost 1/10. no famous ssd stats like crucial, wd, etc etc
interesting to see that the one without dram cache is the faster ssd
SAMSUNG EVO 970 PLUS WITH DRAM is the most reliable than 980 & 990 pro without DRAM relaiability.
That fast car sounds like a Mclaren 650 ....
Unfortunately my PC don't have power to handle anyone😂 but I liked the 1tb one
WHO IS BEST?
I watched this video comparing dram vs dram-less ssd performance for video editing, but it only showed the benchmark score. I’m curious about how they perform in real life scenarios. Has anyone used dram-less ssd for video editing and can share their experience? How satisfied are you with the speed and stability of your dram-less ssd? Do you think it’s worth getting a dram ssd instead? I would appreciate any feedback from you.
I've been in awe of the P44 Pro for a while now. They're dirt cheap too. I don't need another SSD but I'll buy one just to have for the future 😂.
Agreed. I grabbed a bunch off of amazon partially because I wanted to try them and partially because the 1tb's were on sale for like $50. 1 in a laptop, 2 mirrored in a server for storage for VM's. Probably going to use another one to upgrade a mini PC. Bang for buck really hard to beat
I like the heatsink design. Is there any OEM of that heatsink available for purchase?
Yeah on aliexpress
I just picked up a open box 1 TB Western Digital SN850x for $50 and open box 2 TB Western Digital SN850x for $80 from Newegg.
yea this things are getting cheap! I bought a Kingston NV2 1TB for 38$ (New), not a good drive but plenty fast for what I have to use it for. And that is actually 2$ cheaper than the cheapest 1TB HDD (at least in my country).
Few years ago thinking of having a 1TB+ game library (which considering the size of new games is not hard to achieve) on NVMe meant spending something like 350$ (for a 2TB drive).
@@mastroitek I hear you! NVME , RAM and CPU prices are pretty great right now. PSU, GPU and motherboard prices still stink. The Kingston NV2 is a good middle of the road NVME. For the price it is amazing. Any NVME made by a big player like Kingston, ADATA, Team Group, Mushkin, etc. are going to be good drives with rock bottom prices right now.
Love it❤
Hdd are good for torrent download especially 100gb over with 1gb broadband over. If you do this on Nvme your cpu will go Berserk €
Don't believe that nvme are the best thing for you .Nvme is good for short high speeds but for long copying and large files Nvme are way to slow and give a strain on cpu.
I know because I have an 7800x3d and 7900 xtx.owner of hdd and Nvme
Reviewers are doing useless test , not relative to real world work.
Is there any additional setup involved to use an additional ssd as a cache drive? Physically installing the hardware is simple enough. Searching how to set it up in Windows I get several very different answers
Hi. Will this fit in the PS5 with that huge heatsink?
Also, is it ok if i use an SSD with no heatsink in the PS5?
Thanks in advance.
1. Yes
2. No
Can you please review Lexar ARES 2tb version
hey,
Which is the case behind you??
How are you getting such slow sequential read and write speed results from Crystal Disk Mark?
With my Seagate Firecuda 530 2TB my read/write results are:
- SEQ1M Q8T1 = 7353 MB/s read --- 6956 MB/s write
- SEQ128K Q32T1 = 7285 MB/s read --- 6908 MB/s write
- RND4K Q32T16 = 4247 MB/s read --- 6265 MB/s write
- RND4K Q1T1 = 77 MB/s read --- 296 MB/s write
Your graphs show 6962 MB/s read and 6865 MB/s write for the Firecuda 530 2TB.
Every other SSD seems to be under-performing too.
I think it's coz I'm testing it on a gen 4x4 slot through chipset not through CPU perhaps the latency there.
But the point is to have all these SSDs tested in the same environment to see how they compare to each other?
@@theTechNotice I see thanks, makes sense.
I don't see you talking about Kioxia SSDs, is there a reason for that? I have a Kioxia Exceria Pro 1TB, I bought it because it is very fast, top performance, unfortunately at the time I didn't realize that it doesn't have hardware encryption, but other than that it seems like a top SSD.
There's no reason for not talking about certain brand SSDs, I just test and talk about those which samples I have :)
"THESE have DRAM cache instead of THESE that don't" and all we see is random footage and one SSD for like a second. What?
Nv7000 does and NV7000-t doesn't;)
i bet it was just a matter seconds different between the two which is dosn't matter. Just pick one that cheaper and call it a day.
You put the FireCuda 530 in the wrong slot..Iam getting 7389 reads and 6886 writes here in my PC.
Depends on the testing setup and which slot you use :)
Recommend 4tb archive m2 ssds ..gen 3 & 4
Is it okay to use the DRAM-less drive as a boot drive?
If it supports Host Memory Buffer (HMB), yes. HMB allows the SSD to use your main system RAM for caching.
Most DRAMless M.2 SSDs, including the NV7000-T, support HMB. SATA SSDs do not support HMB.
An SSD with onboard DRAM will normally perform a bit better though, especially when your system RAM is being used heavily by other tasks.
NEVER EVER BUY THIS. DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. IT BROKEN AFTER ABOUT 1 YEAR OF USAGE. SO I SENT IT FOR RMA SERVICE, THEY SEND ME BACK ANOTHER BROKEN SSD AND NEGLECT ALL OF MY MESSAGES DELIBERATELY.
Sala, apne confuse h😂
I like no D ram
It sucks for pc don’t buy