Oh buddy we have competition on all angles now, with apple, intel, AMD for actual processors, AMD and nvidia on GPU, and the countless companies out there actually making computers and other computer parts
You realise there was a whole lot of suing going on? Until eventually they agreed to share patents with each other against Google. And at this moment in time Microsoft still owned a large chunk of Apple. But that said, Apple havent invented anything since the late 90s.
megaangelic first modern touchscreen smartphone, 2007, first modern tablet and still the best tablet, 2010? The first modern-day smartwatch, the first successful wireless earbuds? That fall out of your head, did it?
@@paradox9265 It doesn't, apple scams their users who want to fix their computers that have issues, instead of repairing the specific part they replace the entire fucking motherboard and ask you for at least 700$.
I love how the recommended solution is to not install dlls in one place, meaning they no longer are system wide libraries. They just blatantly gave up.
Windows has activation because it can be installed on any machine. MacOS can be installed on... Macs. Windows is a purchased product. Macs are products that come with MacOS. It’s apples & oranges.
OSX is nearly 20 years old and with all those people on iOS now (cus thats what sells), macOS has been left to rot. Parts of your kernel are nearly a decade out of date.
@@Wicked_Trojan Technically Windows 10 is free, you pay for encryption and HyperV in Pro. You don't need to activate or buy the home edition. Both are ad based now.
In one of Microsoft's antitrust documents, they were talking about the Mac OS X Tiger announcement through e-mail, and were shocked, or at least I think they were, about how their OS had features for Longhorn/Vista "word by word'. One of them installed it on their Macs, and were amazed by it. They had issues about implementing WinFS and working some Spotlight-like search features, yet here they are. To be fair, the Gadgets from Vista was in development as early as 2002 or 2003 after they finished working XP, though I don't know if Apple copied them when working on Tiger.
oh my apple still bitching about windows copying apple but but wait if they are copying apple why is windows way ahead of apple in market share somethings off about that accusation🤔🤔
@@raven4k998 Well it's common sense. Apple only makes that many Macs while there are hundreds if not thousands of brands and models of machines which all come with Windows preinstalled. Also since Windows 95 and XP were very popular, many people, specially old people, are very familiar with Windows and other Microsoft products like Office, making the switch to another (superior) OS like Mac OS or GNU/Linux more difficult. And yes, Windows has been fundamentally a copy of Mac OS from its early days, hence why there was a lawsuit between both companies until both made a deal in the late 90's to settle it helping Microsoft with their anti-trust problems and Apple with their economical problems.
@@josemanuque yeah but then again what happened to apple when was the last time they made a super computer they have not claimed their computers were super computers for years now over a decade they have gone down hill so far it's just sad in a way😭😭
@@raven4k998 You asked about software you got the answer. Now in hardware Apple is making some of the best processors in the market. I would suggest you to check the M1 and M2 Apple Silicon chips as it seems you haven’t. They outperform x86 (processor architecture used in almost any other PC) in performance per watt. New Mac laptops have a huge advantage in battery life compared with all other laptops and having enough power for professionals. The only thing setting Macs and Linux PCs back is the software dependency of Windows, and in the case of Macs, the ridiculous price Apple sells them
@@raven4k998easy to answer, their practises on right to repair suck. Their products are planned obsolecence by the minute you buy them, and they rip off their customers (but they don't really care)
A blast from the past. Back when Internet Explorer didn't use tabs, Firefox was gaining ground, and Windows XP felt old but most people still liked it (hey, most people still do today in 2020).
No one actually liked/s Windows XP. What happened is MS took forever to replace it, and when they did, we got......... Vista lol. If Vist1a came out a year or 2 earlier and was actually good (like Windows 7) then XP would've had an awful reputation.
@@AndroEmu_Clips Vista was fine but drivers (for older devices) were not, and OEMs just didn't build vista spec ready PCs... if you built high end you were 100% fine and vista ran as advertised but on medium and low end machines... yea no shot. Vista needed a long beta run, pretty sure by jan '07 most of the problems could have been ironed out.
@@AndroEmu_Clipswindows 10 is too, because between windows 8,8.1 and 11, windows 10 will always be the best choice, even better than windows 7 because its still getting security support
@@McDonaldsDude people actually really did like XP, even in early 2010s it was still well liked when windows 7 existed. it certainly has charm and character
@@noonenooo2843 Its an iPhone with the latest camera and processor for 399 in a solid, although a bit dated, design. What the fuck do you mean its a piece of shit? Its far from that.
@@NathanCEits an iphone 8 with the A13. the design is dated, battery too small, only single camera, 5W charger in box and old display (even though it looks *OK*). apple could habe done so much more for 400$ but they didnt want to because people gonna buy it anyways and i think this is so shitty from apple. yeah you got the A13, but what are you gonna do with that? video editing on a 4.7 inch screen? gaming on that screen but you have to charge the phone after 3 hours and the charging process takes 5-6 hours because apple was too greedy to put atleast like a 15W charger in the box. You are one of those people who fall for Apple's marketing and this is why they are like that. People are so stupid they follow apple anyways so they can release half baked garbage and say its the best because "A13 chip woah you need it even though those users just use snapchat whatsapp instagram and the chip is complete overkill for them"
"Instead of putting it on the top-right, they put it on the bottom-left." "It's still Windows." "It's still has a registry." "It's still (dynamic link libraries) dll hell." "It has this well-loved feature called Activation." LOL
I know they’re having fun but comparing search, mail, rss and calendar isn’t fair. These are products that will naturally be similar regardless of who makes it.
Companies then: _“our competitors are worse, they have worse feature that our products, and they’re just a bunch of copy cats”_ Companies now: _“well we have this, our competitors have the same feature, but to avoid being sued, we won’t say their names.”_
For the people that are getting defensive: This is from 2006 when apple was smaller and not dominant in the PC market and this footage was filmed over 10 years ago. How about you relax and stop wasting your time writing an essay about everything wrong with this video(we all know) and just laugh along like everyone else.
I suppose that depends on how you look at it. This was 2006, work on Longhorn / Vista began in May of 2001 (2 months after OSX was releasednot surprisingly) That means it took MS 5 years to merely achieve the "same functionality" with very similar design even with a road map to follow. They did not raise the bar as they probably should have. They merely met it, and even that is debatable given how many issues there were with it on release. It has taken them almost 2 years to fix it.
@@alexfinns6162 it wasn't, infact windows Vista SP2 is one of the best windows imo, it was all OEMs fault since they didn't provide a new rewritten driver for Vista and instead changed some stuff do they could work on it
Inaccurate. Longhorn turned out to be disaster.. it was just too much for NT 5.x , so they started over with brand new kernel in 2006. Lots of improvements are under the hood and even today windows still uses NT6.X.. sure with 10 they matched the NT version.. but it was just a minor improvement over 6.2 that windows 8 used. Main problem with vista was that it was rushed, they fixed it with sp1, but it was too late by then. Vista walked so 7 could run. Also work on next version of windows always begins before they even release the current upcoming one. It was not because osx release, lmao. The only exception was windows 11.. because they planned that to be a service.. they quickly found out it's not possible.. while technically it is... realistically it's not (if they pushed win11 in form of win 10 upgrade, millions of pcs lacking requirements would end up unbootable) So they went back to releasing new win every 3 years.. and yes before 11 was finished, work on win 12 already started.
Mac OS X has none to very little of the code from Mac OS 9 and earlier. Mac OS 9 had many problems that couldn't be solved just by adding it to the OS, like lack of memory protection (If one app crashes everything does), and lack of real multitasking. They first tried to make their own kernel, but it wasn't good, so they used a BSD Unix-based kernel and developed a completely new OS on it. Of course they made the UI similar so people would recognize it.
While this video is very harsh against Microsoft (Most of these features aren't copying, but still it is some imitation), why are people choosing this individually. Microsoft has constantly mocked Apple. Ever seen Steve Ballmer talk about Apple? It's even worse. Don't forget how Samsung has constantly mocked Apple, only to literally rip their features off without even trying to disguise it. It's crude but Apple isn't the only one.
@@Iloyuk Fact: The iPhone userbase consist of far more people that have more money than sense, and as mentioned above, think their above everyone else because their phone has an Apple logo.
I love healthy competition. These two companies trying to one-up each other makes the whole tech industry so much better. Apple and Microsoft wouldn’t have created most of their good products without it!
I think you guys don't know that back ik 1997 Microsoft made a €150 million investment in Apple to save it for completely going bankrupt. If Microsoft didn't done that there would be no Apple today.
@ActionRobo And Vista would flop anyway because manufacturers was stuck to old technologies as XP didn't need better hardware. Vista forced them to improve.
True, although XEROX stole the GUI and the mouse concept, as well. Look up "Mother of All Demos", from the 1960s, to know the true (or oldest known) origin.
Apple paid xerox a million dollars in pre ipo stock in order to view their products. Xerox couldn’t create their own computers cheap enough to sell enough so they banked on apple using their ideas to profit off their stock. It took apple years of some of the best computer scientists and engineers to create their own GUI which actually was very different than Xerox’s
@@VivanNotVivian yes but he was saying “instead of having the menu on the top right, they put it on the bottom left” which is where the start menu has always been. That was my logic :)
@@VivanNotVivian yeah I remember Windows XP had a search feature too although it was very clunky and no where near as good. So I guess it was also a revised version of that. I guess there is a resemblance to the Mac one too haha.
I use a Mac and love it. All my friends are jealous of how reliable it is. Their Windows Vista claims to do the same things and more, but they always end up complaining to me about crashes and it not doing what they want. I have never really used Vista myself, so don't feel comfortable bad-mouthing it too much. I do know that it looks way too similar to my OS X Leopard, that they did copy that though.
Yeah my windows 11 PC still crashes unexpectedly all the time and has silly bugs that shouldn't be happening in the first place. I'd be happy to switch to Mac no matter the price range. As long as I can get a long-term reliable laptop that won't suddenly prevent me from typing or serve me ads about their trash browser.
I was at WWDC ages ago where they were giving “best of” shoutouts to various products and for best new game the winner was “Microsoft Excel”. Brought the house down.
Holy cow, this was actually uploaded in 2006 :O ! I thought it was uploaded in retrospect! No wonder the quality is so low! Like, this is actually historical, from that time period! That is amazing! Now the question is: why am I suddenly being recommended this in 2020?
I do think it would be VERY smart if Microsoft charged a lot less for Windows 7 then they do now, and I agree with Apple rightly treating SL as an upgraded better version of Leopard. I think that improvements (for Apple and Microsoft) does some good for each of them to try and out do themselves for the next version of the OS'es
Yeah it should be a bit cheaper, we are barely reaching 1gb minimum ram and maybe because we spend so much money on the hardware, the software should be cheaper? after all, not everybody has a NASA-like "4gb ram" or "SSD" whatever those are.
@@I_Regret_It actually, Windows is the most expensive operating system and far as retail price goes. Technically you can buy a Surface instead of a MacBook and it will be a few hundred quid cheaper but if you take one look at the specs, you'll see you're actually paying for specs straight from 2013.
@@mitchib1440so just don’t buy microsoft? buy some acer or dell laptop. unlike apple, you can slap windows anywhere with little issue. and you don’t really have to pay to activate Windows, you can use a free activator from the internet. It’s technically piracy but nobody will come after you, you’re a drop in a bucket.
The amount of butt hurt Windows fanboy in the comments section amuses me. I've been using Windows my entire life and I don't know why you guys are so mad. Windows is still a messy slab of features with identity crisis that supports more games than Mac.
I have build my own PC rig (6700K + nVidia 980ti + Samsung 900 pro + NZTX phantom case...) for gaming: And it is a screamer! But every now and then , the PC restarts without reason (apparently a memory leak in Windows 10!). On the other hand , I have my Mac with which I do serious stuff: developing (for Windows-platforms btw!) , working with Adobe products and much more... I trust my Mac and Timemachine with my life, and it has never failed me.
Windows is just a hot mess. Many of the components of the operating system feel like they were an afterthought or they just forgot about them. Windows tries to be everything, and is therefore mediocre at everything (except gaming). And I like apple, but I'm a good sport and don't get butt hurt when Apple is made fun of, because every company has its flaws, and Apple is not for everyone.
Windows had most of it's feature's before OS X. And saying IE copied Safari is a lie. They had IE on Windows And pre OS X macs. It's vice versa, folks. I can't believe they made fun of the activation screen. Windows is widely used. OS X isn't. Activation is there to prevent piracy online. And you know how a "Hackintosh" is made? By pirating OS X because there is no activation or key. After seeing Microsoft "redesign" the Windows UI, Apple decided to do the same thing in OS X. Now I don't want to sound like a fanboy, I actually enjoy using OS X too. And it's not like either are perfect. Both have their flaws. Both have their gains. And I agree with you. It's just sad to see two amazing companies biting at each other. They both used to innovate and share with each other! They were like nice kids. Now it's really just a mess. OS X is sloppy in some areas like upgrading and performance. Windows is the same way. I would like to see both companies working together again. Microsoft and Apple are like Nvidia and AMD. They are rivals, yes. But they can overcome that. I totally agree with you and I hope you read this.
Gotta love WWDC 2015 where Apple are now copying Microsoft and Google with their Windows Snap copy, their Google Now copy and their Microsoft Surface multitasking copy.
The fact is that Windows Vista’s interface is the only consistent, well-polished design that Microsoft has ever made. Apple mocked Windows at its own event because Apple had been threatened by Vista at that time.
I love both OS, I have a Hackintosh and a windows PC. One for editing and one for livestream, don't really know why people hate each other if they work great together
I don't see a single use for a mac lmao.. outside of being perhaps the best choice for computer illiterate people, mac doesn't have any appeal. Linux and windows both have advantages, but if you use windows I see no reason to ever need to use a hackingtosh. WIndows does everything what mac does and often better.
eh, i mean basically operating systems still operate the same. It's just fancier window dressing and incremental small changes. in the 10-15 years prior to this time period, computers were literally obsolete within 3 years of purchase. this wasn't because companies were designing them that way, that was just the rapid rate that tech was evolving. my point is that we have sort of hit a period of diminishing returns. this is coming from someone who has been around 40 years to witness everything.
Ironically the best way to get more life out of older Apple products is by installing Windows, since many programs don't support older versions of OS X anymore. An older MacBook with an Intel CPU will run Windows 10 just fine and will run all current programs without issues.
Corristo89 yeah but how old is the threshold??? I have a 2011 Toshiba with intel core duo 2.3ghz and 8 gb ram, it’s on Windows 10 and it runs horribly slow!! It takes like 3 to 4 minutes just to open Chrome!!!!!! I also have a late 2011 Macbook Pro which is on High Sierra and it runs much smoother than the Toshiba, still slower since it’s older but much smoother!!!! It goes to show you that Apple will support computer technology much longer and with minimal slowdown. Yes it does takes quite a bit to open apps but it’s not as slow as the Toshiba!!!!! I had to use my Toshiba this morning and it felt like night and day, even after clearing a lot of space on the HDD!!!!!!
@@xPlatiinHD 2011 MBPs didn't have SSDs by default. It easily could have had a hard drive. SSDs weren't default until the Retinas, which came out in 2012
Vista was not a bad OS in and of itself, but it did suffer from a combination of problems at its launch. There were some issues with the RTM build, such as slow network copy times, and the user account control being triggered too often. The jump from NT 5.x to NT 6.x caused compatibility issues with certain applications, and there were issues with nonexistent drivers due to the introduction of a new driver model. However, the biggest problem, as far as I'm concerned, was OEMs that tried to put overloaded Vista on systems whose hardware could barely support it. Vista did mature into a stable, usable OS over the course of its shelf life. Service Pack 1 & 2 resolved many issues, device drivers and updated applications became available, and the OEMs started using correct hardware. I use Vista SP2 today as my main OS, and I can say I am very impressed and happy with it. It's lightning fast with SP2 and it will run all the latest stuff, and it gets higher FPS than Windows 7 with games.
I know that, but still, there are people that are bashing Vista to death in this comment section, so I just thought I'd help it out. Besides, Vista didn't copy OS X, fact is that Apple just got it to the market first. For example, the sidebar with gadgets, that was implemented into Windows Longhorn Build 4001, an early beta of Vista that was made in 2002, 3 years before apple included widgets in Mac OS X in 2005 with Tiger. Just something to think about. I'm not much of a Mac vs PC guy nowadays, they are both good in their own ways, and I enjoy using both Windows Vista SP2 and Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion at home. Both work great and are very stable, and I use them for different things.
I have used Vista since the first open beta and it was much faster and better than XP. I didn't get why people hated Vista because their allegation wasn't right to me but... maybe I'm the inexperienced one. :-) All in all, Vista is a nice memory to me.
Yes one of the biggest issues was OEM's putting Vista on computers with super low specs & performance similar to the Windows XP Netbooks that would be selling just a few years after the release of Vista. People where going & buying Vista then installing it one machines with Pentium 4's, 1GB of Ram, slow barley capable DirectX 8 or 9 GPU's, & slow 40GB to 80GB IDE hard drives, then complaining why Vista was running so slow. OEM's where installing it on laptops & desktops with slow Intel Celerons, & Intel Pentium 4's, 512MB of Ram, GMA 900's graphics(Absolute trash graphics), & small & slow 5400RPM 80GB, & people buying them complained Vista sucked when running it on one of these systems. Now this isn't completely Microsoft's fault as Microsoft only created Windows Vista to run on hardware they thought would be the standard by it's release(Though the big problem is they rushed production when they should of took a little more time on perfecting it). OEM's at the time where doing what they do now, creating slow crappy laptops & then selling them to the tech illiterate public for gain. Instead of keep power up to the time off what it should of been, OEM's would build computers using older or super cheap part's to save money, & then selling them at high prices. Because of that alot of the budget & midrange OEM markets where held back from adapting to newer or more powerful stuff available by OEM's to save money on production. Windows Vista basically forced OEM makers to update there hardware to current place at the state of development so Vista could run correctly on them.
+one dude excactly :D Android fan boys says we had ram and power full procesor bla bla bla and you instal 5 aps on their "powerfull" phone it starting to crash :D Why? Cuz Bugdroid.
Alright, I'd just like to say that the "search" feature wasn't actually copied - the search bar incorporated into the start menu was actually around during Longhorn development - LONG before WWDC 2006
Vista and 7 tried to copy some obvious transparency elements from OS X (which it had from the beginning) and the result is Aero. Vista tried to enhance the security of windows by incorporating Unix-like features and the result is user account control. Vista and 7's search feature is a joke in comparison to Spotlight. Spotlight is instant and allows you to search in every document you have (even PDF) and every webpage you've ever visited, right from your desktop. Due to NTFS limitations, Windows only indexes certain folders in order to keep the speed OKish. Want me to go on?
@Ezra Ramirez just because apple sells the same product dosent make it better. also since you asked these are the features that MacOS stole from windows (prepare a huge wave of text): 1. Control panel- before Mac OS x, Settings were mostly found in form of files called control panels. though windows stole the name, they put all the settings in one place. Apple stole the idea and called it system preferences 2.Time machine- Apple stole the Concept of backup and restoring, windows had it first 3.Remote desktop connection-apple added a screen sharing program to mac OS and it lets you to view and control a another connected mac but windows users had this functionality since xp 4. minimizing programs-windows had this feature for a very long time. it basically lets you minimize and keeps it on the task bar unless you open it but apple stole this idea and put it in mac os X 10.6. 5.The whole File explorer layout- Windows ha did everything before mac but it wasnt until mac OS slowly using some of the layout of file explorer in their operating systems like the forward and back buttons and address bar etc
@Ezra Ramirez i agree that "backing up and storing data, that has always been a thing" but time machine was first introduced in Mac OS X leopard and that os came out in 2007. windows backup and restore was introduced in vista and vista came out in 2006 but you are right either way
I thought the same thing. It is amazing that they would even dare do that after how much flack they caught about Vista looking like OSX. So what do they do? Make it look even MORE like OSX by adding a dock which was missing from Vista and taking the one difference between Widgets and Gadgets and making the whole thing identical by placing their "gadgets" in a separate environment just like OSX's Dashboard. Friggin' amazing! And people will keep denying that it is alike!
yes did you see the last microsoft event? and the last apple event? lol the last apple event was crap they just change the apple tv a little bit and dint uptade any macbook exept the macbook pro for 1500 dollar and 1800 dollar with the touchbar
FabTBC Compared to the iphone. Yes it is!. but then again any phone. lol Also this is about the windows division. So why bring the phone division into it?
a Microsoft lançou o Windows Vista para fabricação em 8 de novembro de 2006, e foi lançado para consumidores em geral no mundo inteiro em 30 de janeiro de 2007, na época do evento ainda estava em desenvolvimento
I love my mac and I love my PC, the Mac has a bunch of great programs preloaded with great tools. (I dont see a whole lot of Mac software out on the shelf.) But now if Microsoft has been copying Mac for the past 20yrs then so be it. All I got to say is they did a good job at making Macs confusing GUI into a simple user friendly GUI that often messes up. Also have a huge amount of support from other software developers that like to use there "buggy" software on a unstable OS.
I'm actually interested in Windows Vista's potential performance since it supports DX11 and nvidia has drivers for relatively later model of its graphics cards. Are there still any newer games (2015-ish) runnable on a 64 bit Windows Vista? I know that Dirt Rally runs very well on Vista.
Holy cow... It's been 3 years since my last comment on this video! Telling myself in 2017: go search msfn for all Windows Vista tips. Vista does have its potential, but lacking of 1st and 3rd party support killed the system. Somehow you can possibly manage to use Vista until 2023 by applying all server 2008 "R1" updates.
i have no problems with vista, nothing bad happens, my comp is updated with lastest parts as they come out as well. not to mention have fun trying to use dx10 on xp
Im sitting here typing on my M1 MacBook Pro. The majority of the apps I use in work are from Microsoft, Teams, Outlook, Office, Onedrive etc. Funny how things turn out.
- "And to give you our thoughts on Vista, I'd like to bring up Bertrand Serlet" - Bertrand walks onto the stage. - "It's crap." - Bertrand walks off stage.
Lol, the Spotlight thingy it's actually Apple who copied it from Windows. After Windows Xp, MS was developeing WinFS and the intant search for the Longhorn circa 2004/05. Apple simply was able to implement it faster, because Longhorn was reset, resulting in Vista being endlessly delayed until 2007
@@l3p3 Using XP is now kinda dangerous for your computer. Security holes will never be fixed. Abd because WinXP mostly use 32bits libraries, it may stop working in the near future.
@@l3p3 The majority of complaints I remember from back in the day was from people running it on outdated and underpowered hardware that couldn't handle the more intensive UI.
The good ol days when the mac vs pc debate was hot.
And Now It's iOS vs Android
Shiva Sai Now The wars have already majorly stopped
And now Apple couldn’t give a fuck
Shiva Sai naw it's Windows Phone vs. BlackBerry OS
Yeah, apple lost that war.
Another episode of: "Where did quarantine bring me today?"
PeterPkp123 true
RIGHT
Overused comment
PeterPkp123 Lmao I’m here too
same here
3:06 Apple invents Windows 7 logo
I know right!
Tech ProYT they just copied Apple again.
how is that possible, it looks so similar.
Microsoft removed windows vista's orb to make a windows 7 logo. Simple explanation.
Wíndows Vienna 10 oh really?
Fun Fact, Craig Federighi was once French...
Do you know how he was called back then? LE Craig Federighi.
@DropZ NV Killjoy
you can hear his french pronunce
I hate windows
Fun fact, Craig Federighi once worked at Microsoft!
I want the good times back when there was humour and actual competition.
Well, we do have Craig
@@Philipp-ym4pc craigggg
Oh buddy we have competition on all angles now, with apple, intel, AMD for actual processors, AMD and nvidia on GPU, and the countless companies out there actually making computers and other computer parts
@@lemon_boy577 CRAIG CRAIG CRAIG *CRAIG CRAIG!!*
@@Omabatfartsbruh DANKPODS
back when people could take a joke without tryna sue each other
You realise there was a whole lot of suing going on? Until eventually they agreed to share patents with each other against Google. And at this moment in time Microsoft still owned a large chunk of Apple. But that said, Apple havent invented anything since the late 90s.
megaangelic first modern touchscreen smartphone, 2007, first modern tablet and still the best tablet, 2010? The first modern-day smartwatch, the first successful wireless earbuds? That fall out of your head, did it?
@@paradox9265 They didn't invent most of those - they just perfected them.
HenryRichard True, but the fact that they were really the only company that made people believe in it says something about them.
@@paradox9265 It doesn't, apple scams their users who want to fix their computers that have issues, instead of repairing the specific part they replace the entire fucking motherboard and ask you for at least 700$.
240p video
French guy speaking
Wtf
C'est vrai que le seul truc normal c'est le français mdr
I don’t speak baguette. Please translate
@@mateng7707 it's true that the only normal thing is the french lol
@Anonymous#Reuploads don’t cut yourself on those edges
@@Anonymous1312 fuck you
So this is how Craig Federighi looks in 240p resolution
Why aren't you at the top?
Abdulaziz AS AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
@@alessandro3826 Never quite as good
That's Monsieur Craig de Federighi to you
I see a 12 year old video in my recommended, I click
Was UA-cam owned by google at the time the video was uploaded?
@@swagsss9168 nope. it was aquired in november, 2006
Same
Same
wait I just realized is he showing a vista beta cause to my knowledge that background was not used in any vista build see this at 3:32
"It's still DLL hell"
this is still true 14 years later
I love how the recommended solution is to not install dlls in one place, meaning they no longer are system wide libraries. They just blatantly gave up.
@@alexrawson8492 on Linux they also gave up with snaps and appimage
@@jonathandaniel7321 appimage is still alive, snap was doa
Jonathan Daniel Snap is horrible but I think AppImages are alright. Of course I would always take an official package over those two.
@@alexrawson8492 They gave up on system wide libraries I meant, so there is still DLL hell in linux
In 2018, Windows 10 still has activation, "DLL hell", and the registry
And Mac OS have the "KEXT hell", the system folder and the system information but if we delete those Mac OS is destroyed, same for Windows
Windows has activation because it can be installed on any machine. MacOS can be installed on... Macs. Windows is a purchased product. Macs are products that come with MacOS. It’s apples & oranges.
OSX is nearly 20 years old and with all those people on iOS now (cus thats what sells), macOS has been left to rot. Parts of your kernel are nearly a decade out of date.
@@Wicked_Trojan Technically Windows 10 is free, you pay for encryption and HyperV in Pro. You don't need to activate or buy the home edition. Both are ad based now.
What is the problem with the registry?
In one of Microsoft's antitrust documents, they were talking about the Mac OS X Tiger announcement through e-mail, and were shocked, or at least I think they were, about how their OS had features for Longhorn/Vista "word by word'. One of them installed it on their Macs, and were amazed by it. They had issues about implementing WinFS and working some Spotlight-like search features, yet here they are. To be fair, the Gadgets from Vista was in development as early as 2002 or 2003 after they finished working XP, though I don't know if Apple copied them when working on Tiger.
oh my apple still bitching about windows copying apple but but wait if they are copying apple why is windows way ahead of apple in market share somethings off about that accusation🤔🤔
@@raven4k998 Well it's common sense. Apple only makes that many Macs while there are hundreds if not thousands of brands and models of machines which all come with Windows preinstalled. Also since Windows 95 and XP were very popular, many people, specially old people, are very familiar with Windows and other Microsoft products like Office, making the switch to another (superior) OS like Mac OS or GNU/Linux more difficult.
And yes, Windows has been fundamentally a copy of Mac OS from its early days, hence why there was a lawsuit between both companies until both made a deal in the late 90's to settle it helping Microsoft with their anti-trust problems and Apple with their economical problems.
@@josemanuque yeah but then again what happened to apple when was the last time they made a super computer they have not claimed their computers were super computers for years now over a decade they have gone down hill so far it's just sad in a way😭😭
@@raven4k998 You asked about software you got the answer.
Now in hardware Apple is making some of the best processors in the market. I would suggest you to check the M1 and M2 Apple Silicon chips as it seems you haven’t. They outperform x86 (processor architecture used in almost any other PC) in performance per watt. New Mac laptops have a huge advantage in battery life compared with all other laptops and having enough power for professionals.
The only thing setting Macs and Linux PCs back is the software dependency of Windows, and in the case of Macs, the ridiculous price Apple sells them
@@raven4k998easy to answer, their practises on right to repair suck. Their products are planned obsolecence by the minute you buy them, and they rip off their customers (but they don't really care)
Being french, it was actually hard to understand this guy
He’s not speaking French.
@@tylertyler82 no kidding!
@@dbr_199 Never quite as good
A blast from the past. Back when Internet Explorer didn't use tabs, Firefox was gaining ground, and Windows XP felt old but most people still liked it (hey, most people still do today in 2020).
Windows xp and windows 7 was the pinnacle of Windows OS
No one actually liked/s Windows XP. What happened is MS took forever to replace it, and when they did, we got......... Vista lol. If Vist1a came out a year or 2 earlier and was actually good (like Windows 7) then XP would've had an awful reputation.
@@AndroEmu_Clips Vista was fine but drivers (for older devices) were not, and OEMs just didn't build vista spec ready PCs... if you built high end you were 100% fine and vista ran as advertised but on medium and low end machines... yea no shot. Vista needed a long beta run, pretty sure by jan '07 most of the problems could have been ironed out.
@@AndroEmu_Clipswindows 10 is too, because between windows 8,8.1 and 11, windows 10 will always be the best choice, even better than windows 7 because its still getting security support
@@McDonaldsDude people actually really did like XP, even in early 2010s it was still well liked when windows 7 existed. it certainly has charm and character
I kept waiting for him to say "Ahh, Bikini Bottom... Home of my favorite undersea character, SpongeBob SquarePants."
He sounds literally nothing like Jacques Cousteau
More like "SpongeBob MacPants"
“I guess it goes to show, money isn’t everything”
Apple 2020 has left chat.
Gaming York it’s a piece of shit... crap display and crap camera
noone nooo then what were you expecting, a literal iPhone 11 downsized?
nah bro its apple 2017 when they drop the iphone x
@@noonenooo2843 Its an iPhone with the latest camera and processor for 399 in a solid, although a bit dated, design. What the fuck do you mean its a piece of shit? Its far from that.
@@NathanCEits an iphone 8 with the A13. the design is dated, battery too small, only single camera, 5W charger in box and old display (even though it looks *OK*). apple could habe done so much more for 400$ but they didnt want to because people gonna buy it anyways and i think this is so shitty from apple. yeah you got the A13, but what are you gonna do with that? video editing on a 4.7 inch screen? gaming on that screen but you have to charge the phone after 3 hours and the charging process takes 5-6 hours because apple was too greedy to put atleast like a 15W charger in the box. You are one of those people who fall for Apple's marketing and this is why they are like that. People are so stupid they follow apple anyways so they can release half baked garbage and say its the best because "A13 chip woah you need it even though those users just use snapchat whatsapp instagram and the chip is complete overkill for them"
I actually laughed when I found out that Apple calendar is called iCal. haha
Kencka fk what a stupid name
zsin128! The name was changed like seven years ago.
Now it's just called "calendar" now
@@mackstewart4203 you answered on time
zsin128! Everything had the “I” now they dropped it on most of their products
3:13 did i just hear a GTA V Wasted sound?
lmao "WASTED" you aint lying
Yes.
no
Not really but I see where you’re coming from. The ambient noise thingy
UA-cam algorithm: hey, wanna watch a conference from 14 years ago of a guy with a french accent throwing shit on windows vista?
Me:... A'right
Same!
"Instead of putting it on the top-right, they put it on the bottom-left."
"It's still Windows."
"It's still has a registry."
"It's still (dynamic link libraries) dll hell."
"It has this well-loved feature called Activation."
LOL
CL tech k
dont really understand that,windows start menu had been bottom left since windows 95
@@karolybanfai5852 it's in the way they redesigned it to look like spotlight search, windows xp had a completely different start layout
@Thrown ! But it's so slow, so the addition of Windows Search in the Start Menu and Search Indexing makes it accessible and fast.
@@lloyd26 and yet, it's still so slow
*But... you know, underneath it all, it’s still Windows.*
Wíi U
Gameboy
Music player
PS4
Your mom
I know they’re having fun but comparing search, mail, rss and calendar isn’t fair. These are products that will naturally be similar regardless of who makes it.
lets be real here windows vista copied the aqua design thats why everything looks so simular.
Gmail, apple default mail, yahoo mail.. all got a lot of different ui stuff
The colour scheme of calendar was copied lmao
@@helmi5045 :)) Aqua and Aero Glass don't have any similarity.
I assume there could be different approaches with the organisation of the UI elements and stuff
Companies then: _“our competitors are worse, they have worse feature that our products, and they’re just a bunch of copy cats”_
Companies now: _“well we have this, our competitors have the same feature, but to avoid being sued, we won’t say their names.”_
Thank to linux and opensource community. They started that tradition lol 😂
@@AchmadBadra wait they did? who started it, i wanna know
@@prayagsuthar9856 nope, they didn't.
For the people that are getting defensive:
This is from 2006 when apple was smaller and not dominant in the PC market and this footage was filmed over 10 years ago. How about you relax and stop wasting your time writing an essay about everything wrong with this video(we all know) and just laugh along like everyone else.
Michael Que thank you! (Insert Steve Carrell meme)
Haha “very small”
Apple small in 2006??? What fucking planet where you living on because it definitely wasn't Earth... Everyone and their damn dog had an iPod.
Michael Que
"very small"
@@Cooe. apple is small company they domt make nothing all is made by foxcon apple sell like apple product still made in china
I suppose that depends on how you look at it. This was 2006, work on Longhorn / Vista began in May of 2001 (2 months after OSX was releasednot surprisingly) That means it took MS 5 years to merely achieve the "same functionality" with very similar design even with a road map to follow. They did not raise the bar as they probably should have. They merely met it, and even that is debatable given how many issues there were with it on release. It has taken them almost 2 years to fix it.
And yet it was still buggy after 2 years 😂
@@alexfinns6162 it wasn't, infact windows Vista SP2 is one of the best windows imo, it was all OEMs fault since they didn't provide a new rewritten driver for Vista and instead changed some stuff do they could work on it
@@lolcatpl oh, that’s an interesting new piece of knowledge, I’ll look into it. Thanks a lot for teaching me! 😃
To be fair. Apple grew insanely fast during these five years.
Inaccurate. Longhorn turned out to be disaster.. it was just too much for NT 5.x , so they started over with brand new kernel in 2006. Lots of improvements are under the hood and even today windows still uses NT6.X.. sure with 10 they matched the NT version.. but it was just a minor improvement over 6.2 that windows 8 used. Main problem with vista was that it was rushed, they fixed it with sp1, but it was too late by then. Vista walked so 7 could run.
Also work on next version of windows always begins before they even release the current upcoming one. It was not because osx release, lmao.
The only exception was windows 11.. because they planned that to be a service.. they quickly found out it's not possible.. while technically it is... realistically it's not (if they pushed win11 in form of win 10 upgrade, millions of pcs lacking requirements would end up unbootable)
So they went back to releasing new win every 3 years.. and yes before 11 was finished, work on win 12 already started.
Mac OS X has none to very little of the code from Mac OS 9 and earlier. Mac OS 9 had many problems that couldn't be solved just by adding it to the OS, like lack of memory protection (If one app crashes everything does), and lack of real multitasking.
They first tried to make their own kernel, but it wasn't good, so they used a BSD Unix-based kernel and developed a completely new OS on it. Of course they made the UI similar so people would recognize it.
If only he was here to see Windows 11
TBH I miss this times when Apple and MS would pull jokes at eachother
Back then Apple was so sympathetic I miss the old Apple
While this video is very harsh against Microsoft (Most of these features aren't copying, but still it is some imitation), why are people choosing this individually. Microsoft has constantly mocked Apple. Ever seen Steve Ballmer talk about Apple? It's even worse. Don't forget how Samsung has constantly mocked Apple, only to literally rip their features off without even trying to disguise it. It's crude but Apple isn't the only one.
Yeah, Samsung's gotten even worse today.
I fully agree.
@@Iloyuk Especially teenage thots that think they are cool with iPhone 6
@@Iloyuk Fact: The iPhone userbase consist of far more people that have more money than sense, and as mentioned above, think their above everyone else because their phone has an Apple logo.
Apple went bankrupt if Microsoft wanted to in older days. But still MacOS is good, but not as good as Linux tho.
I love healthy competition. These two companies trying to one-up each other makes the whole tech industry so much better. Apple and Microsoft wouldn’t have created most of their good products without it!
I think you guys don't know that back ik 1997 Microsoft made a €150 million investment in Apple to save it for completely going bankrupt. If Microsoft didn't done that there would be no Apple today.
yep, without that FP from BIll Gates's team, Apple wouldn't succeed like now
@ActionRobo And Vista would flop anyway because manufacturers was stuck to old technologies as XP didn't need better hardware. Vista forced them to improve.
To be fair, Microsoft never created a good product out of this competition. They kinda just gave up and pivoted to enterprise solutions.
i have a operating system on my phone
Meanwhile XEROX from heaven be like :- lol those kids never stops stealing XD
True, although XEROX stole the GUI and the mouse concept, as well. Look up "Mother of All Demos", from the 1960s, to know the true (or oldest known) origin.
Apple paid xerox a million dollars in pre ipo stock in order to view their products. Xerox couldn’t create their own computers cheap enough to sell enough so they banked on apple using their ideas to profit off their stock. It took apple years of some of the best computer scientists and engineers to create their own GUI which actually was very different than Xerox’s
1:37 Yeah Apple, start menu at bottom left. Like they have been doing since 1995.
Bottom left*
@@julienpregent4397 thanks :)
@@VivanNotVivian yes but he was saying “instead of having the menu on the top right, they put it on the bottom left” which is where the start menu has always been. That was my logic :)
@@VivanNotVivian yeah I remember Windows XP had a search feature too although it was very clunky and no where near as good. So I guess it was also a revised version of that. I guess there is a resemblance to the Mac one too haha.
Every one knows the Windows start menu was there since the 95
+Mustafa Sen Not the search feature!
the search was introduced in xp... it was in explorer not in the start menu
It wasn't, the search in XP opened a new window and was really slow since it worked in a completely different way.
It wasn't, the search in XP opens a new window and is really slow since it work in a completely different way.
That's still search. And the search bar was integrated before that release of Mac OS during Longhorn development
Microsoft watched this made Windows 7 by removing the circle at 3:06
Never quite as good
Oh my goodness, I remember this like it were yesterday. Good times. Memories from my college days.
Windows Vista looks beautiful though ngl
Not really, Mac OS X looked a hell a lot better, and at the same time - XP looked very cute in it's simplicity.
I use a Mac and love it. All my friends are jealous of how reliable it is. Their Windows Vista claims to do the same things and more, but they always end up complaining to me about crashes and it not doing what they want. I have never really used Vista myself, so don't feel comfortable bad-mouthing it too much. I do know that it looks way too similar to my OS X Leopard, that they did copy that though.
13 years later and Apple are more than happy to steal ui ideas and features for their biggest OS to day; iOS
@@damienlobb85 android was the first one, so i guess that you can't get it right
@@damienlobb85 "steal" they literally own iOS
Yeah my windows 11 PC still crashes unexpectedly all the time and has silly bugs that shouldn't be happening in the first place. I'd be happy to switch to Mac no matter the price range. As long as I can get a long-term reliable laptop that won't suddenly prevent me from typing or serve me ads about their trash browser.
@@paristath6773 this is why you switch to Linux Manjaro instead of 11 or 10
I was at WWDC ages ago where they were giving “best of” shoutouts to various products and for best new game the winner was “Microsoft Excel”. Brought the house down.
Holy cow, this was actually uploaded in 2006 :O ! I thought it was uploaded in retrospect! No wonder the quality is so low!
Like, this is actually historical, from that time period! That is amazing!
Now the question is: why am I suddenly being recommended this in 2020?
To remind us that windows is still a windows, probably. Shitty OS, but at least I can play games on it
2006 recording quality wasn’t that bad, they had HD. it’s just that youtube was infamous for compressing videos then.
Yeah, Xerox might have some thoughts about this ;)
No, they wouldn't. Apple BOUGHT the GUI project from Xerox after they were cancelling it. It's still Apple's by right.
The Stern Dragoon no apple bought the rights to visit the PARC lab in return for XEROX investment.
Many xerox Parc alumni worked on the original mac the Mac was built from the ground up
Blah... Blah... Blah... Apple Fan Boys,....
Jeffry Syam wa wa waaa apple haters
I do think it would be VERY smart if Microsoft charged a lot less for Windows 7 then they do now, and I agree with Apple rightly treating SL as an upgraded better version of Leopard.
I think that improvements (for Apple and Microsoft) does some good for each of them to try and out do themselves for the next version of the OS'es
Yeah it should be a bit cheaper, we are barely reaching 1gb minimum ram and maybe because we spend so much money on the hardware, the software should be cheaper? after all, not everybody has a NASA-like "4gb ram" or "SSD" whatever those are.
Hello from 2023 🥹
@@alternatedenzI'm so confused
14 years later...
Ah, I remember when Apple invented RSS
they did not
that’s the joke
@@jordough4495 Ah, I see. A one-liner
I remember when Apple OS didn't have right click , coming from Windows was a step backward to me, also video formats and quicktime among others
Dang that must’ve been long ago, macOS began supporting right-click in ‘97
Apple: *makes fun of Windows for copying old features*
Also apple: " Hey guys so here is the Brand new app drawer on IOS 14 , oh and widgets"
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That is because they need stive Jobs with out him apple die
@@Games-is7qw what
Meanwhile android is getting a new feature that works in the same way as airdrop....
@@ravalaumand ? Lol
I'm a Windows user. I have grown up with Windows since I was a small kid. We could never afford Apple products.
But even I can't fault this.
Vista took so long, that Apple took its features before Microsoft had the chance to introduce them to the public, including Instant Search.
MICROSOFT IS CHEAPER
@@I_Regret_It actually, Windows is the most expensive operating system and far as retail price goes. Technically you can buy a Surface instead of a MacBook and it will be a few hundred quid cheaper but if you take one look at the specs, you'll see you're actually paying for specs straight from 2013.
@@mitchib1440so just don’t buy microsoft? buy some acer or dell laptop. unlike apple, you can slap windows anywhere with little issue. and you don’t really have to pay to activate Windows, you can use a free activator from the internet. It’s technically piracy but nobody will come after you, you’re a drop in a bucket.
The amount of butt hurt Windows fanboy in the comments section amuses me. I've been using Windows my entire life and I don't know why you guys are so mad. Windows is still a messy slab of features with identity crisis that supports more games than Mac.
I have build my own PC rig (6700K + nVidia 980ti + Samsung 900 pro + NZTX phantom case...) for gaming: And it is a screamer! But every now and then , the PC restarts without reason (apparently a memory leak in Windows 10!).
On the other hand , I have my Mac with which I do serious stuff: developing (for Windows-platforms btw!) , working with Adobe products and much more... I trust my Mac and Timemachine with my life, and it has never failed me.
Windows is just a hot mess. Many of the components of the operating system feel like they were an afterthought or they just forgot about them. Windows tries to be everything, and is therefore mediocre at everything (except gaming). And I like apple, but I'm a good sport and don't get butt hurt when Apple is made fun of, because every company has its flaws, and Apple is not for everyone.
Windows had most of it's feature's before OS X. And saying IE copied Safari is a lie. They had IE on Windows And pre OS X macs. It's vice versa, folks. I can't believe they made fun of the activation screen. Windows is widely used. OS X isn't. Activation is there to prevent piracy online. And you know how a "Hackintosh" is made? By pirating OS X because there is no activation or key. After seeing Microsoft "redesign" the Windows UI, Apple decided to do the same thing in OS X. Now I don't want to sound like a fanboy, I actually enjoy using OS X too. And it's not like either are perfect. Both have their flaws. Both have their gains. And I agree with you. It's just sad to see two amazing companies biting at each other. They both used to innovate and share with each other! They were like nice kids. Now it's really just a mess. OS X is sloppy in some areas like upgrading and performance. Windows is the same way. I would like to see both companies working together again. Microsoft and Apple are like Nvidia and AMD. They are rivals, yes. But they can overcome that. I totally agree with you and I hope you read this.
I hope your kidding right XD
"butthurt" about a video from almost 15 years ago? Nowadays more people praise MS product while bashing Apple products. step into 2017
Idk why i suddenly got recommended this video after 17 years randomly but I am happy, thanks algorithm
The channel icon fits perfectly
Gotta love WWDC 2015 where Apple are now copying Microsoft and Google with their Windows Snap copy, their Google Now copy and their Microsoft Surface multitasking copy.
spankwalla Gotta love Windows's virtual desktop...Copying Mac OS X's multiple desktop
Anon Anon maybe you are referring to LINUX's multiple desktop
Anon Anon maybe you are referring to LINUX's multiple desktop
But the most horrible thing. My friend said siri is a copy of cortana
And Surface copying iPad?
14 years later… We still have the registery
Okay "money isn't everything". Hearing this from Apple makes me laugh so hard!! 😂
The fact is that Windows Vista’s interface is the only consistent, well-polished design that Microsoft has ever made. Apple mocked Windows at its own event because Apple had been threatened by Vista at that time.
only issue is that the day i installed vista, i bluescreened and the graphics went all wonkey because the os decided to crash when I installed drivers
I love both OS, I have a Hackintosh and a windows PC. One for editing and one for livestream, don't really know why people hate each other if they work great together
I don't see a single use for a mac lmao.. outside of being perhaps the best choice for computer illiterate people, mac doesn't have any appeal. Linux and windows both have advantages, but if you use windows I see no reason to ever need to use a hackingtosh. WIndows does everything what mac does and often better.
Tech has gone so far through the years! It’s simply insane.
eh, i mean basically operating systems still operate the same. It's just fancier window dressing and incremental small changes. in the 10-15 years prior to this time period, computers were literally obsolete within 3 years of purchase. this wasn't because companies were designing them that way, that was just the rapid rate that tech was evolving. my point is that we have sort of hit a period of diminishing returns. this is coming from someone who has been around 40 years to witness everything.
@@trueneutral3092true actually
And even with all this progress Microsoft and windows both still suck
This video was posted when I was in high school. I'm in my mid 30's now, huh how times have passed.
You wouldn't believe it, their calendar looks like our calendar.
Ironically the best way to get more life out of older Apple products is by installing Windows, since many programs don't support older versions of OS X anymore. An older MacBook with an Intel CPU will run Windows 10 just fine and will run all current programs without issues.
This is so unbelievably untrue hahahaha.
Corristo89 yeah but how old is the threshold??? I have a 2011 Toshiba with intel core duo 2.3ghz and 8 gb ram, it’s on Windows 10 and it runs horribly slow!! It takes like 3 to 4 minutes just to open Chrome!!!!!! I also have a late 2011 Macbook Pro which is on High Sierra and it runs much smoother than the Toshiba, still slower since it’s older but much smoother!!!! It goes to show you that Apple will support computer technology much longer and with minimal slowdown. Yes it does takes quite a bit to open apps but it’s not as slow as the Toshiba!!!!! I had to use my Toshiba this morning and it felt like night and day, even after clearing a lot of space on the HDD!!!!!!
guitarboyjeff brah... it’s because the MacBook has a ssd and the toshiba doesn’t.
@@xPlatiinHD 2011 MBPs didn't have SSDs by default. It easily could have had a hard drive. SSDs weren't default until the Retinas, which came out in 2012
@@Ryan-nq3qp Prove me wrong then.
Vista was not a bad OS in and of itself, but it did suffer from a combination of problems at its launch. There were some issues with the RTM build, such as slow network copy times, and the user account control being triggered too often. The jump from NT 5.x to NT 6.x caused compatibility issues with certain applications, and there were issues with nonexistent drivers due to the introduction of a new driver model.
However, the biggest problem, as far as I'm concerned, was OEMs that tried to put overloaded Vista on systems whose hardware could barely support it. Vista did mature into a stable, usable OS over the course of its shelf life. Service Pack 1 & 2 resolved many issues, device drivers and updated applications became available, and the OEMs started using correct hardware. I use Vista SP2 today as my main OS, and I can say I am very impressed and happy with it. It's lightning fast with SP2 and it will run all the latest stuff, and it gets higher FPS than Windows 7 with games.
Exactly
The point of the keynote is not show that its bad, its to show that windows copied mac
I know that, but still, there are people that are bashing Vista to death in this comment section, so I just thought I'd help it out. Besides, Vista didn't copy OS X, fact is that Apple just got it to the market first. For example, the sidebar with gadgets, that was implemented into Windows Longhorn Build 4001, an early beta of Vista that was made in 2002, 3 years before apple included widgets in Mac OS X in 2005 with Tiger. Just something to think about. I'm not much of a Mac vs PC guy nowadays, they are both good in their own ways, and I enjoy using both Windows Vista SP2 and Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion at home. Both work great and are very stable, and I use them for different things.
I have used Vista since the first open beta and it was much faster and better than XP. I didn't get why people hated Vista because their allegation wasn't right to me but... maybe I'm the inexperienced one. :-) All in all, Vista is a nice memory to me.
Yes one of the biggest issues was OEM's putting Vista on computers with super low specs & performance similar to the Windows XP Netbooks that would be selling just a few years after the release of Vista.
People where going & buying Vista then installing it one machines with Pentium 4's, 1GB of Ram, slow barley capable DirectX 8 or 9 GPU's, & slow 40GB to 80GB IDE hard drives, then complaining why Vista was running so slow.
OEM's where installing it on laptops & desktops with slow Intel Celerons, & Intel Pentium 4's, 512MB of Ram, GMA 900's graphics(Absolute trash graphics), & small & slow 5400RPM 80GB, & people buying them complained Vista sucked when running it on one of these systems.
Now this isn't completely Microsoft's fault as Microsoft only created Windows Vista to run on hardware they thought would be the standard by it's release(Though the big problem is they rushed production when they should of took a little more time on perfecting it). OEM's at the time where doing what they do now, creating slow crappy laptops & then selling them to the tech illiterate public for gain. Instead of keep power up to the time off what it should of been, OEM's would build computers using older or super cheap part's to save money, & then selling them at high prices. Because of that alot of the budget & midrange OEM markets where held back from adapting to newer or more powerful stuff available by OEM's to save money on production. Windows Vista basically forced OEM makers to update there hardware to current place at the state of development so Vista could run correctly on them.
Watching this after Sonoma
Sonoma gives me Windows XP and 11 Vibes with the wallpaper and Windows Vista vibes with new desktop widgets
Man back in the good days of roasting your competitors.
Copy whatever works, unless you can make it better.
That's how it works and that's how it should be done.
@@ThomasWong54 Elaborate.
this is what Apple doing right now on iPhone
sad but true
Muruga Rajen yeah... we all miss the innovative steve jobs
+Duftbaum Stock Number of features from Android, but it works though...
Muruga Rajen iOS is copying Windows Phone? I don't think so!
+one dude excactly :D Android fan boys says we had ram and power full procesor bla bla bla and you instal 5 aps on their "powerfull" phone it starting to crash :D Why? Cuz Bugdroid.
Alright, I'd just like to say that the "search" feature wasn't actually copied - the search bar incorporated into the start menu was actually around during Longhorn development - LONG before WWDC 2006
Like I hate apple for making fake innovation in computer market
Nobody:
UA-cam: Let's recommend this video in 2020
If Windows is just a copy of Mac OS, why do so many Mac users hate it?
Because it's copied, but somehow still manages to do it all wrong.
Robin Roos Explain, Please.
Vista and 7 tried to copy some obvious transparency elements from OS X (which it had from the beginning) and the result is Aero. Vista tried to enhance the security of windows by incorporating Unix-like features and the result is user account control. Vista and 7's search feature is a joke in comparison to Spotlight. Spotlight is instant and allows you to search in every document you have (even PDF) and every webpage you've ever visited, right from your desktop. Due to NTFS limitations, Windows only indexes certain folders in order to keep the speed OKish. Want me to go on?
Robin Roos Sure, go on. By the way, I really don't have a preference between the two.
i do, i love macs. my macbook air is the best purchase i've ever done. my gaming PC is riddled with issues.
How many of you came here after windows 11 announcement ?
0:07 "What's our competitor been doing for the last five years?"
"DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS!" 😂😂😁😁🤣😎
“Underneath it all, it’s still Windows”
Apple 2020
Windows: Hey, can i copy your homework?
MacOS: No
Windows: ‘does it anyways’
That's 2006 but in 2020 you put it opposite
@Ezra Ramirez tablet pc made in 2002 by Microsoft=iPad
@Ezra Ramirez just because apple sells the same product dosent make it better. also since you asked these are the features that MacOS stole from windows (prepare a huge wave of text):
1. Control panel- before Mac OS x, Settings were mostly found in form of files called control panels. though windows stole the name, they put all the settings in one place. Apple stole the idea and called it system preferences
2.Time machine- Apple stole the Concept of backup and restoring, windows had it first
3.Remote desktop connection-apple added a screen sharing program to mac OS and it lets you to view and control a another connected mac but windows users had this functionality since xp
4. minimizing programs-windows had this feature for a very long time. it basically lets you minimize and keeps it on the task bar unless you open it but apple stole this idea and put it in mac os X 10.6.
5.The whole File explorer layout- Windows ha did everything before mac but it wasnt until mac OS slowly using some of the layout of file explorer in their operating systems like the forward and back buttons and address bar etc
@Ezra Ramirez i agree that "backing up and storing data, that has always been a thing" but time machine was first introduced in Mac OS X leopard and that os came out in 2007. windows backup and restore was introduced in vista and vista came out in 2006 but you are right either way
@Ezra Ramirez bruh bullshit, give me sources of your information
I thought the same thing. It is amazing that they would even dare do that after how much flack they caught about Vista looking like OSX. So what do they do? Make it look even MORE like OSX by adding a dock which was missing from Vista and taking the one difference between Widgets and Gadgets and making the whole thing identical by placing their "gadgets" in a separate environment just like OSX's Dashboard. Friggin' amazing! And people will keep denying that it is alike!
wait, what windows dock? I don't remember a dock in windows 7 😵💫
Windows 11 says hi
Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery so I thank you
I love to see those old keynotes, and also Steve
LOL the funny thing is Microsoft is the one that inovates now a days, while apple rehashes the same crap over and over. cough cough iphone 7.
solidn6 Microsoft isn't innovating or am I missing something?
yes
did you see the last microsoft event?
and the last apple event?
lol the last apple event was crap they just change the apple tv a little bit and dint uptade any macbook
exept the macbook pro for 1500 dollar and 1800 dollar with the touchbar
solidn6 yea the Microsoft phone is just incredible
FabTBC
Compared to the iphone. Yes it is!. but then again any phone. lol
Also this is about the windows division. So why bring the phone division into it?
Besides the studio (which is a copy of the Cintiq) what else did Microsoft offer?
Did you notice how both OSes use rectangles?
a Microsoft lançou o Windows Vista para fabricação em 8 de novembro de 2006, e foi lançado para consumidores em geral no mundo inteiro em 30 de janeiro de 2007, na época do evento ainda estava em desenvolvimento
The aero glass of Vista is a really beautiful interface.
Yes, yet nothing at the time had the video memory to run it.
@@TonyisToking that's why GPU is a thing.
I love my mac and I love my PC, the Mac has a bunch of great programs preloaded with great tools. (I dont see a whole lot of Mac software out on the shelf.) But now if Microsoft has been copying Mac for the past 20yrs then so be it. All I got to say is they did a good job at making Macs confusing GUI into a simple user friendly GUI that often messes up. Also have a huge amount of support from other software developers that like to use there "buggy" software on a unstable OS.
This was a dumb thing for Apple to do.... They are basically saying... Our OS is the same... But their version is cheaper
It was more of a “their product is a cheap knock-off of ours”
So after windows 11 this video sneaks into my feed. I guess after 15 years the title is still relevant today.
Brought to you by the company which say this line every year, "This is the fastest iPhone we have ever made"
I'm actually interested in Windows Vista's potential performance since it supports DX11 and nvidia has drivers for relatively later model of its graphics cards. Are there still any newer games (2015-ish) runnable on a 64 bit Windows Vista? I know that Dirt Rally runs very well on Vista.
Holy cow... It's been 3 years since my last comment on this video!
Telling myself in 2017: go search msfn for all Windows Vista tips. Vista does have its potential, but lacking of 1st and 3rd party support killed the system.
Somehow you can possibly manage to use Vista until 2023 by applying all server 2008 "R1" updates.
i have no problems with vista, nothing bad happens, my comp is updated with lastest parts as they come out as well. not to mention have fun trying to use dx10 on xp
İ love windows vista too
@@kilgincedi same
@@kilgincedi it's been 14 years...
Im sitting here typing on my M1 MacBook Pro. The majority of the apps I use in work are from Microsoft, Teams, Outlook, Office, Onedrive etc. Funny how things turn out.
what is the font on 0:31
Mac=0, Windows=0... Xerox team from '73 are the real heroes!
yep Xerox, would had a big number bug in 2013 ... numbers got exchange and the bug was in since over a decade
Bogdan Capanu Xerox were prototypes. Apple brought GUI to mass market and added a lot of improvements. Microsoft simply copied Apple.
And then they made scanners that flip digits and alter documents lol
Not sure why Xerox never became the greatest software company of all time. They really were very innovative.
Windows 11: "You underestimate my powers"
Dude 13 years later and I get this in my recommended. I was 2 smh.
00:40
Bertrand is working at a Frankenstein park today in 2020
the moral of this video is: money ain’t everything, that’s the big idea we everyone needs to know.
4:08 you talk about future and now with ip 8 and x you call wireless charging etc new?
- "And to give you our thoughts on Vista, I'd like to bring up Bertrand Serlet"
- Bertrand walks onto the stage.
- "It's crap."
- Bertrand walks off stage.
Lol, the Spotlight thingy it's actually Apple who copied it from Windows.
After Windows Xp, MS was developeing WinFS and the intant search for the Longhorn circa 2004/05. Apple simply was able to implement it faster, because Longhorn was reset, resulting in Vista being endlessly delayed until 2007
complaining about another OS having a search bar is peak fragility
Ahhhh I wish companies were still like this without the worry of sueing lol
What no one comments is how much better looking Vista was compared to Mac OS.
I still think it looks great today.
Idk why UA-cam recommendations are doing great job in the end of the lockdown
That was Apple then, now its the other way round. Apple playing catch up with Microsoft.
Vista and windows 7 are still my favorite os.
Vista was garbage. 7 was ok. I am using XP now, it is very fast and very stable!
Yeah
@@l3p3 Using XP is now kinda dangerous for your computer.
Security holes will never be fixed.
Abd because WinXP mostly use 32bits libraries, it may stop working in the near future.
@@l3p3 How was Vista garbage? 7 is basically Vista with an updated UI.
@@l3p3 The majority of complaints I remember from back in the day was from people running it on outdated and underpowered hardware that couldn't handle the more intensive UI.
I can’t believe Microsoft bought his startup and he works there now 😂
That man’s accent is so strong, but yet I still understand him. Fringlish