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Damn dude has less tire, less power and more weight, and STILL won! That 10 speed really is a marvel!
More like props to the gt350 owner for rowing those gears 😂
100whp is something, but when your banging gears it slows you down every gear change. The Auto is definitely great, the GT350 was made for a racetrack, not a dragstrip. But to each their own.
@@JuergenGDB exactly somebody gets it
@@texasstreetkings537 No lie he had it at the start but when that 2-3 shift came that’s when the 10 Speed GT went to start gapping him. Crazy thing is you got guys that have insanely fast shifts with manuals. I’m just surprised how amazing the 10 speed truly is though.
It’s more of Coyote vs. Voodoo. 5.0 all the way baby. The Voodoo is a cute little engine tho.
Yeah the 10 speed is wild but that 350 just sounds so good
100% gimmie that one all day. Great driving too
Nice to have u back bro! Amazing video as always 👌🏽
Thank you!!! Appreciate that! 😇
Gearing won this race, good vid
I’d take a manual any day
Those 10 speeds no joke !!!!
100 more HP and less weight from the 350R and still gets gapped; that 10 speed GT is something serious.
yeah in a straight line. now throw them around a track and see who faster.
@@torindank2861 Agreed!
Ag said there was issues going on with the 350r
Auto is boring shit. Yes they are fast but auto is gay and boring and takes 0 skill. Manual is 100x more fun and you have to actually know how to drive to get the most out of one unlike an auto.
This just in: The car with more gears won. Who would've thought
Great runs. I think the voodoo would benefit more from a PD blower.
the 5.0 moves, also AG we haven't seen the yellow twin turbo mustang in ages I'd really love to see it race against some of the big boys
I sold my GT350R two years ago. BIGGEST regret ever haha. So so fun to drive and sounds insane.
Regret if you got a Civic instead. A relief if you got a Mach 1 HP or GT500.
I like how both of them pulled away from that vette trying to join the race
That Gt350 owner might want to rethink his horse power claim. That car is NOT making 900whp on 11psi. Unless he has a hidden set of twin turbos somewhere else. A D1x @11psi is about 690- to about 750whp on E85. Nice runs!
Absolutely. Been saying this since the first video. People need to start understanding the platform they are running more and stop being stupid.
@freak_5.042 Unfortunately, people believe what they want to believe. Usually the owner would like to think that they some how got a "factory freak" and their car makes a lot more power on the same setup than the other 1000 cars just like his. I feel bad for the owner because they spent their hard earned money and they're told some outrageous lie and well, they believe it. Only to run into cars that are making "less" whp, weigh more and get gapped. Then they call their tuner and are told that the car that they raced must have cheated but luckily for an extra 5k they can fix it!
Yup, I'm running a Ti Trim/14psi and best 635whp, full weight, thru the cats on 93. Those 1500/Ti/D1X sing when they're pullied for 20+psi, otherwise very peaky if under that. With the high C/R of the 350, pretty easy to hit 11psi, but no way 900.
Surprised how well the ESS blower did.
@@jojog8304 I'm very impressed with the ESS blowers for sure!
Exactly what I thought.
I don’t even care about the speed give me that 350 sound 🫠🫠
What’s up with the Scat?
the sound and the rarity
the wheels on the 350r are worth like 16k
Ls7 sound >
@@DodgeandGMkiIIingFurdDaiIy agreed
The 5.0 makes more sense anyway , I feel the GR350R should be left in stock form maybe a few small bolt ons and call it a day
Lets see the C5 that raced this 350 vs this 10r80
The C5 would win
@@Richh2SSdoubt
This A10 put about the same distance on the 350
Damn, I def expected a closer run based on the HP numbers provided. Good run though, pretty wicked cars.
Even though he was banging gears, just can't beat a fast transmission keeping the car in the power band.
Too many people get caught up in dyno numbers and it's hilarious. Some of the fastest cars on the street have been street tuned and estimate their HP from data logs. This guy came off a dyno thinking he made 900whp on 11psi 🤦 now he is telling everyone that and putting out a big expectation yet losing to much less HP cars. F*ck dyno numbers. It's a tool.
That 10 speeds is doing the work
all the centrifugals! feel like i'm back in the 90s lol!
Everyone doesn’t like turbo lag . And amp centrifugal cars whoop turbo cars all the time. Plus blower cars are louder and sound better .
@@speedlife301 singing to the choir my friend ha s d1 procharged 01 cobra years and years ago.
@@speedlife301 Blower cars make no sound in a Coyote.
@@freak_5.042what ru talking about? Lol. A centri whistles like crazy if you have the right one. The positive displacement stuff doesn't run enough boost on coyotes to typically make alot of whining noise but a centri absolutely makes noise on a coyote. I'd argue that is one of the cooler things about centris is there sound I'm more of a tvs guy but that sound omg lol
@@midnight347 I meat the positive displacement blowers like Whipple. And it's not because they don't make enough psi, you can spin the 3.0 Whipple well into the 20's psi range but the blower noise from the PD blowers is the sound of being inefficient. The new Whipple blowers are extremely efficient therefore make almost no noise. The centrifugal blower noise is gear noise and BOV noise. And yes, it sounds awesome.
Fantastic race. I love that 10 spd. Both Mustangs are nasty!
As we can see hear again, 350s come with 3.73 rear gear. He did the t56 swap with a 2.97 1st gear, you can not pair those gear ratios and expect to do well on a roll, the ratio will be way to long, you have to do a 4.09 rear gear to even out the ratio. This makes the 350 look really bad when its just how the car set up currently.
As expected! Surprised that voodoo didn’t blow
I have 19 GT 10speed.but , GT350R and GTR my dream Car ❤
Haha…GT350 owner forced a 70 roll…and still lost. The Voodoo is a nice little garage queen or weekend cruiser engine, but real power is for 5.0s and Predators. And the Coyote is heavier! 😂
This was about the Trans gearing advantage let them switch transmissions and see which engine comes out on top. It's clearly the gearing advantage the 10 speed offers tbat makes the difference. Stop making what is about the Trans about the engines.
Great video that's the best video I've ever seen you put up a little surprised the 350 didn't give him a little more elite challenge two of the best cars ever built
The people that comment on these videos are such mouth breathers. Everyone keep saying the 350 doesn't make 900 whp . All you need to do is type "Procharged GT350 dyno" into UA-cam and there's proof everywhere. It's a high compression , high revving engine. 11psi is A LOT of boost on this engine. Also this flat plane crank isn't fond of the added bottom end torque from a postiive displacement blower. The centrifugal or turbos (kill the voodoo sound) are the most closely matched and best choice if you want to increase the output of this engine. I just finished up my 19 GT350 w/ P1X procharger and 4.25" pulley. It sounds incredible and it's faster than you'd ever need, I don't even get traction in 2nd gear now, and the TC dash light flirts with you on the top of 3rd gear , you're going over 100mph in 3rd and still wanting to break lose on good Michelin PS4 tires . I'm only on 6psi and it should be around 700 rwhp, more if on race gas. Basically the same thing as the car in the link , but I have a boost-a-pump.
ua-cam.com/video/CbyrvF5kQP4/v-deo.html
A lot of these kids live in internet world and have never even been in a fast car in real life to talk shit about them. Both these cars are fast as hell , and they're both Fords so why all the trashing?
The GT has the crossplane crank and more torque so it's better for going in a straight line. The Gt350 is more refined and it's purpose is on the race track.
If I didn't like rowing gears so much I'd go with the A10 cause it's a beast....no denying.
ESS GANG LETS GOOO
GT350 one of the top 3 best sounding cars
ESS is no joke 🔥
I'd still take that voodoo great manual fckn amazing sound
10speed for racing joy stick for weekend fun and games!
So you can't race a manual. Why? Because it's a little slower than a comparable 10 speed auto that means you can't race a stick shift? People have such a stupid mindset on this lol.
@@midnight347 no I just rather have a smug look after I beat you since you think your spaghetti arms can out pace a 10 speed.
ford and gm did they thang w that 10 speed
Jeez. That 10 speed is just something else. He has less power and on full weight and still won.
The gt350 don't have as much power as claimed for one. Anyone who knows anything knows that. And 2 the 10 speed has a big gearing advantage it isn't fair. If you had a 10 speed manual somehow and could row gears fast there would be little difference between em the gearing is mostly what makes them faster.
People don’t realize dyno numbers are usually higher on manual cars doesn’t mean it’s faster… auto cars would have lower dyno numbers and still will be faster in most cases. Both cars are amazing tho
Woooooow didn't expect that 😮
10speed over all. RIP manual.
Manuals 100x more fun. Auto is boring.
Gt350 just never was meant for racing straight
Always tell everyone
coyote is the most superior modern ford motor
No one runs sealed 7 second quarter mile
1,000hp gt500 barely goes 9s
@@DikeLoverpalm beach dyno went 8s with the gt500 with full bolt ons and a clutch pack
ported blower etc
Takes no skill to drive a 10spd come onn. I couldnt take pride if i beat a manual and im auto come onnn smh. Save the manuals.
No just no
Good race AG!!
Gt350 on carbon brakes. Bro got moneyy
No way dude is making 900 wheel on 11 pounds!
Agreed. He probably meant flywheel.
People are so gullible that beleive anything lol. It's clear he isn't making thr power he's saying nor could he at that psi level e 85 or not
Now this is more like it! Ford on Ford crime.
Either GT350 sucks at shifting or its down on power. This is the second time he gets gapped badly.
Prob both the 10r has a big gearing advantage too.
I don’t mind getting gabed in a 350r😂
What else don’t you mind? 🤭😏
The g t 350 claiming to be at 900 plus horsepower seems to be a stretch. There are a ton of pro charger and e s s builds and you just don't see them making those numbers.
For the majority of street racers , 10 speed is gonna win all day every day, not as fun ,sure , but much faster
Oh hell yea 🔥🔥
The ESS G3 is a nice Centri. The difference in this race was e85. Everyone is focusing on the HP. HP does not win races. TQ does. Even in a roll race. The e85 on a blown motor provides MUCH MORE TQ than 93. It was obvious in the way the GT350 would jump out and the Coyote would just pull around him. With the HP only being around 100 off, and this of course is what the owners are saying, the difference in TQ was clear and the HP would not make a difference. Drag Racing 101.
Completely backwards. TQ is what gets you to speed, HP is what carries you. In a roll race? It's all about HP over TQ. To say HP makes no difference is absolutely ridiculous because it's all the difference.
The gt350 isn't making the claimed power. And for 2 the 10 speed has a big gearing advantage. That basically explains this whole thing. Makes sense
bro what exhaust is that gt350 running that stuff sounds heavenly
I’m pretty sure it was those red headlights that slowed the gt350 down…
The factory aero on the 350r really holds it back at higher speeds regardless of the transmission. That’s a purpose built track car, not a drag car.
Fathouse 1600hp 350r kept the stock wing and went 202mph in the half mile they also kept the 350r front spliter. I would disagree on what you said.
@@jordancook5171doesn't mean they wouldn't have went faster without those things lol.
I roll race at a track here in Australia only 40-130moh. My 660 whp 10R80 3L Whippled GT smokes 3L whippled FN manuals with 100 more hp every time.
Because it has a huge gearing advantage while the manual has shit gearing. On top of that you add in most manual drivers suck ass and don't do them justice well it isn't hard to see the outcome you're saying. A properly geared manual with the driver mod behind it will surprise you. Gaurantre you won't pull with 100 less hp all things equal including gearing. That is where your advantage is. It never falls below 6k while the manual is prob dropping to 5k it below. It's obvious why there is a performance difference.
Does the coyote have stock transmission?
I was wondering the same thing
Yes bone stock 10R80
A 10R will hold quite a bit of power if you know what you're doing 👍
@@freak_5.042cuz u gotta be such a great driver to handle a 10r lol
@@midnight347 Rookie comment 👍 There's a difference between the guy who launches the car from 2nd without a proper converter or a guy who just mashes the gas from 8th gear and let's the car auto drop 4 gears for WOT. Smarten up.
Those GT350 are meant for track. Even on boost, it lacks torque.
Dam I definitely thought that 350 was going to clean house especially with the t56 up grade
GT350s is overrated. Lots of GT350 owners troll the forums, they guy them for investments, and don’t want the value to drop.
@@ClickbaitMotorsportsit's not overrated at all it just isn't all about straight line roll racing like these boring ass 10 speed autos. This gt350 owner overstated his own hp making the auto look more impressive but anyone who knows anything knows he ain't doing 900 wheel with 11 psi blower e85 or not. Use common sense.
It doesn't have the power that was stated here. It prob would if it actually had 900 wheel. It doesn't. Makes the auto look better because of the gt350s overstated hp
Maybe put the 350 R up against a Corolla next time
😂😂
Maybe the dude in the Shelby forgot to put e85 in it and is running on pump gas. Or maybe he forgot that after the Dino runs they went ahead and put the bigger pulley back on so he could have a safer street set up. And he just forgot that also changes his horsepower numbers to lower.
Once the gt350 gets the knock issue fixed it can take them both. You can see the guy pulls in one gear and drops in the next, it's not a valid result
that yellow corvette got ate up by both mustangs lmao
You must have missed last nights video lmao 1997 Vette
That C5 put a Walmart on that GT 350R , The 5.0 in this vid has no chance either
@@Antimatter.It Def ain't anywhere near stock then gaurantee you that
Corvette would have whooped both them stangs 👊👊
how does the 10r80 handle 800+ wheel hp
10 speed for the win
What size pulley on the ESS?
I drove a all stock gt350 it was alright not hair raising fast. It sounded good thou. They become over price now
What exhaust is on the 350r
Good race??? lmao! That was a murder scene!
“What speed did you let off at?”
“It stops at 160.” 😮💨
What I meant was my speedometer stops at 160 not my car lol
What is the GT350 @?
As soon as I heard 10 speed I knew it was already over
Because they're unbeatable right. A 600 wheel 10 speed could destroy a 1000 wheel manual because the 10 speed is unbeatable omg lol. Alot of guys don't do manuals justice at all. They can be pretty damn fast when driven right. The 10 speed has a big gearing advantage for sure they certainly aren't unbeatable. This gt350 over estimated his hp also making the auto look more impressive
900whp? Holy shit, no way that is on 93 octance. im on a gen 5 3.0 whipple making 826 whp 2019 gt350r motor.
Both e85. No 93
10r80 put the power in each RPM with no drop off in HP.
Wtf r u talking about speak English lol. I think what you meant to say was the gearing advantage the 10r enjoys keeps it above 6000 rpm the entire race which is where it makes all its power.. there fixed it for you
Is that 10spd as fast shifting as the DCT in the cobra?
that’s a 350 and it’s a manuel🤦♂️. it doesn’t come with a dct.
Ik that dude with the ess in real life he has a 120 mm pulley
I bet ya the 350 costed him twice as much as the regular 5.0 did☠️
It isn't just about straight line roll racing beleive it or not. Throw them in the twisties that manual gt350r w a driver behind the wheel will run circles around that boring ass automatic.
Im pretty sure the GT350R has a powerband issue. It seems like its just falling on its face more than it should for 900hp. Either its pulling timing or the 350 owner exaggerated his numbers. But a PD Blower would be better for destroying 10speeds🤷🏾♂️
That’s what I was thinking he might have a fueling issue and it’s pulling timing
He obviously exaggerated his numbers. Idk why people can't see this lol
I don’t think he’s really 900whp. More like low 800s
He had issues and fixed it. We spoke today
@@AutoGlory figured something was up, because at 900whp he should’ve been pulling on the 5.0 after each shift
AG then set us up again for another race
need to eliminate that fender gap. Just say no to mountain climbing
350 should of got a whipple instead.
Gt350r needs to sell it
More like ESS FTW.
dam all that money building gt350 and got spanked again
5.0 v last C5. Yep
6 speed manual is no match for a ten speed auto. bring me the manual fan boi tears.
The 10 speed has a huge gearing advantage. It has nothing to do with it being auto and everything to do with it having 10 gears. It obviously has more performance than a manual I just said it has a huge gearing advantage which is why its faster not because it's auto. It's still a boring ass auto and takes 0 skill to drive. With a manual you have to actually know how to drive to get the most out of it. There is always somebody faster. If you wanna kill all the fun of the car for a few tenths of a second be my guest. I will just add some power to offset that difference. Like I said always somebody faster.
And what makes you such a badass when you beat a manual trans with your auto that has a huge gearing advantage oh that makes you so cool 😎 boy you really had to know how to drive to pull that shit off...NOT
@@midnight347 it took me a whole 2 hours to learn how to drive stick....... there is nothing special about driving a manual transmission at all.
Gt350 needs to swap to th400
That 350 isnt making 900whp
I think that gt350r is getting killed by false knock. It falls flat on its face after each shift.
Voodoos run out to 8250 RPM don’t they? Depending on his blower’s step-up he’s way off peak boost every time he shifts. I think a centri is just a bad choice for a high-revving engine
@@axolotlkipscentris literally build boost with rpm the more you Rev it the more boost its gonna see a centri is a perfect choice for a high revving engine what are you talking about? The gearing is probably killing it. The 10 speed has a huge gearing advantage. It also isn't making the claimed hp on 11 psi e or not
ESS is a way better centrifugal supercharger
Im down to race both of this cars 💪💪 lmk
Go get em' killer
Let’s set something up then
Somebody is lying about HP
It isn’t me lying I should them the video of the dyno pull and my numbers 833whp and 601 wtq
Its almost like their horsepowers are reversed. The gt350 looks like 800whp and the GT pulls like it has 900whp
Auto vs Manual is the difference.
The gt350 isn't making that much power. They probably have similar power and the 10r has a huge gearing advantage. It isn't just about power beleive it or not. It's not because it's auto vs manual it's the 10r gearing advantage that is why its faster. It isn't fair it never drops below 6k when manuals prob drop to 5k or less. Not fair
@@someferarriguy7910when an auto is geared similar to the manual it's a drivers race. The 10r has a huge gearing advantage which is why it's quicker not because it's auto
10 speeds are good but boring
l don't understand why people think manual will beat automatic 9 out 10 auto stop the cap 😢
It isn't about the auto vs manual thing it's a Gearing advantage for the auto. It has a huge gearing advantage which is what makes the performance difference. A manual can absolutely beat autos I've done it countless times. I got videos on my channel if u wanna see couple examples lol
@@midnight347 yes l would like that
10r80 is king
Racing an automatic muscle car 😂😂😂
Auto is easier, but if you can master double clutch and your shifts, you can beat them. Manual just feels so kich better slamming theiugh gears
Manual will never beat auto. You're delusional to think double clutching and nailing shifts will beat it.
Sell it.
Coyotes the better engine…
This don't got shit to do with the engine. The 350 isn't making the stated power and the auto has a huge gearing advantage. Switch transmissions and see which engine comes out on top. It's the gearing advantage of the 10r
Nittos are crap.
That’s I want for my 10 speed ESS G3 🫶🤤🤤🤤
for the love of GOD, will some 1 PLEASE explain to me why IRONMAN in the gt350 thinks his arm and leg is FASTER than a 10 speed???????
Well I said it in the last video and this video proves it. That GT350 is nowhere near 900whp on 11psi 🤦 he only keeps up with the 10R car from the hit and between shifts he can't gain at all. At 900whp he will lose ground on the shifts but should hold the 5.0 when in power and even gain some but he just fades away 🤷 Beautiful car though and great runs by both!🔥 And these guys need to be on a fucking tire!! 🤦
The shitstangs
The new ESS kits are animals, definitely gonna be getting one over procharger