ESS G3X SUPERCHARGER 93 VS E85 DYNO COMPARISON ON SAME PULLEY - 2018 MUSTANG GT

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  • Опубліковано 30 лип 2022
  • 18 Mustang GT
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  • @paulhudgins5120
    @paulhudgins5120 Рік тому +7

    Man what a awesome video Ken, so great to hear things are booming for HPR, that is awesome. So great comparison
    from 93 octane to E85, wow 120 RWHP is freaking a lot of HP boost. Great job done by HPR, you, Chris, Darrell and
    also Horsepower factory. Can't wait to get my car done by HPR.

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому +2

      Thank you sir!

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 Рік тому +1

      It's a high compression engine so obviously there is gonna be big gains from e85. There are always big gains on e85 with boost regardless and even more so on high compression engines.

  • @Bad50h-MartyT
    @Bad50h-MartyT Рік тому +1

    Awesome content as usual! Super excited for my install! Wouldn’t have anyone else do it.

  • @markuaw1
    @markuaw1 Рік тому +2

    Great job Ken 👏 best video I have watched in awhile

  • @chillwill0330
    @chillwill0330 Рік тому +2

    Great video! Glad to hear you guys are still busy at the shop!

  • @timwindsor03
    @timwindsor03 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video Ken. Thanks for sharing. Keep the content coming. Hope you and Mrs Pam have an incredible night. Much love and RESPECT brother

  • @FoxcastMedia
    @FoxcastMedia Рік тому +2

    Great video, and great comparison!

  • @Twobarpsi
    @Twobarpsi Рік тому +1

    Awesome comparison video Ken ✊✊✊!!

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому +1

      Thanks I tried to keep it as right as I could.

  • @earronroberts7658
    @earronroberts7658 Рік тому

    Great video, as always! That dyno can be a heartbreaker....

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому

      Thanks and Yep that’s what sort of scares me with this car lol.

  • @downhilldaddy9346
    @downhilldaddy9346 Рік тому +2

    What a difference! Really good numbers 👌🏾

  • @robertcoberly346
    @robertcoberly346 10 місяців тому

    great vid brother !!

  • @MrMach1
    @MrMach1 Рік тому +1

    Ya Buddy! Great video! Thanks for sharing.

  • @EVOLHORSE
    @EVOLHORSE Рік тому +1

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 HPR FTW

  • @jimmymccormick142
    @jimmymccormick142 Рік тому

    Love your videos keep on doing the great work you do Ford power forever

  • @Fox29997
    @Fox29997 Рік тому +1

    Great video🔥🔥

  • @slowpok_5.067
    @slowpok_5.067 Рік тому +1

    Great video and great numbers on the car. I can't wait until November and you get hold of mine.

  • @316racingchannel9
    @316racingchannel9 Рік тому

    Congratulations is in order!! They say the 1st year is the toughest so congrats on the success of your shop!

  • @stephencalvin1401
    @stephencalvin1401 Рік тому +1

    Great video!!! 💪🔥

  • @freedom6919741
    @freedom6919741 Рік тому

    Great video.

  • @silverbullet1162
    @silverbullet1162 Рік тому +2

    Good job ken,

  • @jasonherrick2368
    @jasonherrick2368 Рік тому +1

    Great video

  • @mileshiles1287
    @mileshiles1287 Рік тому +1

    Great comparison. 👍

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому

      Thank you I tried to take as many variables out of the equation as possible.

  • @jacobdragster24
    @jacobdragster24 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video thanks for the info.. wanting to do an Edelbrock set up on my 10 speed car soon

  • @bbq5.0
    @bbq5.0 Рік тому +1

    Great information

  • @victorxavier9977
    @victorxavier9977 Рік тому +2

    Ken always has a mountain dew near by LOL 😆 Enjoyed the video 👊

  • @sergebasque8460
    @sergebasque8460 Рік тому +1

    Very well explanation in rpm range from pump gas at 7200 rpm compare to 7825 rpm with E-85. Two different rpm range with two different HP&TQ💪🇨🇦😎

  • @themaniac5183
    @themaniac5183 Рік тому +1

    Great info

  • @_illtal
    @_illtal Рік тому +1

    Sweet

  • @Showmofox
    @Showmofox Рік тому +1

    I wish I could work for you. Pray the shop keeps doing well for you congrats

  • @joshodin19
    @joshodin19 4 місяці тому

    You kno I had to come back and watch this video! 😆

  • @Zander13Productions
    @Zander13Productions Рік тому

    🔥

  • @toddb3394
    @toddb3394 Рік тому +1

    Very good comparison. As a vette owner GOD I HATE a blown coyoye lol

  • @machdaddy6451
    @machdaddy6451 Рік тому

    Great video. Scientific methods.

  • @brightslide_drift
    @brightslide_drift Рік тому

    What injectors? What other fuel system modifications? Is this return style or stock system? Boost a pump?

  • @avgjoe1836
    @avgjoe1836 Рік тому +1

    Awesome comparison! As a customer it really helps to decide what you want to do what’s worth it and what’s not. If your wondering if E is worth it?! Great work HPR!

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому

      Thanks!!

    • @rob1977tank
      @rob1977tank Рік тому

      @@SpeedAddict731 I know this is a long shot but if he wants to sell that car anytime soon I want it. Have him reach out to me....appreciate it.

  • @robertbaker693
    @robertbaker693 Рік тому +1

    If I get half that hp I would be excited. Can't wait. 2 more weeks

  • @fgj8379
    @fgj8379 Рік тому

    Good gains there from the fuel. I'm curious how much power the cams added vs stock cams with this setup. Are these boost cams? The Gen3 cams are already pretty good, so I'm wondering if the HP/dollar is worth it. I think this is one of the few non NA Gen3 cars I've seen with cams on it.

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому +1

      Last car we had on the dyno with his setup with a cobra jet without the supercharger put down over 500rwhp N/A. This car actually has the n/a version of the comp stage 2 cams because he wasn’t planning on going with forced induction. We were curious how it would do but looking at the hp numbers it did pretty well. Usually wouldn’t see this hp with stock cams. I agree with you the stock cams do great with forced induction and I usually recommend staying with stock cams going with forced induction unless you are building a engine for big power. Even then I still like the stock cams.

  • @DUGSTANG281
    @DUGSTANG281 Рік тому

    With some cold side tweaking, do you think the ESS kit would fit an 11-14?

  • @trunkslorenzana
    @trunkslorenzana Рік тому

    @hpr Hey im going with a G3 kit as well with FIC 1000 Dw400 120mm pully and 93, I got a gen2 FBO with a cobrajet ill be mating this to, do you think ill make to low 700whp?

  • @piptyson5512
    @piptyson5512 Рік тому +3

    Wow that is amazing. I wonder why E85 hasn't really taken off that much? I mean just generally speaking, not just in performance apps. Great to hear the shop is boomin!

    • @F1FIDY
      @F1FIDY Рік тому +1

      What do you mean? In the racing community it took off a long time ago

    • @piptyson5512
      @piptyson5512 Рік тому +1

      @@F1FIDY Well one thing is there aren't a lot of places that sell it. Some areas of the country don't seem to have it at all.
      And with all the talk of fossil fuel being bad for the environment, E85 was supposed to be a better alternative. But it's like it never really took off, except for the racing community. Doesn't seem to add up, but I may not know what all is going on with it.

    • @F1FIDY
      @F1FIDY Рік тому

      @@piptyson5512 it’s not practical for every day driving

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому +2

      Thank you. In the racing community it has taken off but gas stations can’t have it unless they put a tank for it in the ground and most won’t do it.

    • @F1FIDY
      @F1FIDY Рік тому

      @@SpeedAddict731 I’m in Texas , there is always e85 around me

  • @mt6278
    @mt6278 Рік тому +1

    That's incredible gains. But I gotta ask what the ignition timing on 93 and e85? Or how much was added for e85

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому +3

      13 degrees of timing on 93 and 20 degrees on E85. I would have loved to see it on around 15 on 93 and the gap wouldn’t have been so big. But I wanted straight out of pump comparison for both 93 and E85. I could have put some boostane in the 93 and bumped the pump gas numbers up a tad but like I said in the video there is a lot of variables and I wanted results without throwing in more variables.

  • @dave06045
    @dave06045 Рік тому +1

    Awesome results I'm curious if there's much of a difference if it was turbocharged compared to supercharged doing the same kind of application

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому +2

      Turbos are always more efficient over superchargers.

    • @skullhart
      @skullhart Рік тому

      Take the percentage HP gained and apply that to your car. You'll be in the ballpark.

  • @tristanallen2038
    @tristanallen2038 Рік тому +1

    That's awesome! I'm using a G2 with a 115 on E. I might be touching 800 the way this video looked like.

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому +1

      I have been highly impressed with the ESS supercharger kits.

    • @cjnapier037
      @cjnapier037 Рік тому

      Unfortunately not sir. It's been proven many times. The only way you're getting 800 on a G2 is with a 105mm pulley. Not happening any other way. Been there done that. It barely makes 800 on a 105mm and e85.

    • @donwilson6384
      @donwilson6384 Рік тому

      I make 845 with a 105 on a g3x setup

    • @jesusm4
      @jesusm4 Рік тому +1

      My 2019 mustang gt is making 875hp g3 e85 . 95 pully . Headers 1200cc injectors .3.55 rear . Dual fuel pump .

  • @sublimegt500
    @sublimegt500 Рік тому +3

    You'll have to forgive me, I zoned out for half the video staring at that sexy ride over your shoulder 🤣🤣. But seriously, shell 93 is all I put in my car. Best 93 out there imo.

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому +1

      😂😂😂 I knew you would like the back ground.

  • @thundercat9821
    @thundercat9821 Рік тому +1

    Nice video
    Wonder what numbers you would have got at 7700 on 93 with some boostane to fix the kr. That would have been even better comparison

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому +3

      Could have but then you would have not had pump 93 vs pump E. Only thing I could think of is do pump 93 from the station that has the best I usually find and put it against pump E and let it do what it does. Problem is with boostane it would have added timing over what normal pump would do, so again wouldn’t truly be a real comparison between pump 93 and pump E. If I had to speculate it adding 1 deg of timing it would have been about 30 hp better. But that is speculation.

    • @thundercat9821
      @thundercat9821 Рік тому

      @@SpeedAddict731
      Thanks for the reply
      Just seeing already in comments , people will expect 120 rwhp . going from good 93 with no kr at 7700 to e will not be 120 rwhp. Everyone running these ess is putting octane additive . Just my opinion as people might see this as misleading

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому

      @@thundercat9821 if they watch the video in full I explain that these numbers are from pump 93 to pump E with the 93 pulling about a degree of timing. So it’s not misleading if they watch the video and listen to it. That’s the main reason I just didn’t shoot the video at the dyno say what it made and left it alone. I set and explained everything. This is not a comparison of running 93 with boostane and I say that in the video. If we wouldn’t have pulled a degree it would have been a 6 degree difference between pump 93 and pump E instead of 7 degrees of timing. I was just sharing what we found since I have been asked this question a number of times.

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 Рік тому

      @@thundercat9821 you will see a ton of power going to e85 over 93 on a boosted 12:1 car it's just common sense. Yea better quality 93 you may not see 120 hp delta but it's still gonna be 80-90+ easily.

  • @Boostedm3nace
    @Boostedm3nace Рік тому

    That’s crazy gains for e85. I’ve always gotten around a 60-70whp gain on e85, if I run the same boost as 93.

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому

      Definitely on the higher end of gain. Not sure how much the cams are assisting it also the 93 pulled some timing so that gave it a bigger gap as I talked about in the video.

  • @coyotecarguy2076
    @coyotecarguy2076 Рік тому +2

    First! Yessss!

  • @Fox29997
    @Fox29997 Рік тому +1

    Whats a stock 10r80 trans can handle , isn’t it 800 Hp before it goes outs and need a built one ? Regarding a 2018+ mustang

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому +1

      This is a manual car and he is already looking to have a built trans out in. But you are correct anything over 800 in a 10r80 needs to be built.

  • @savage101.
    @savage101. Рік тому +1

    If it was your car.. what supercharger kit would you put on your 22' GT PP1? I'm having a real hard time deciding.

    • @nasty5-oh893
      @nasty5-oh893 Рік тому

      That all depends where do you want the power band to come down at , you can go whipped and have torque right for the hop or on the street of Mexico Centri. They are all great power adders but what’s your purpose.

  • @XMANWORKIN520
    @XMANWORKIN520 Рік тому

    How many pounds of boost is he running?

  • @turbinatorlou
    @turbinatorlou Рік тому

    Good lord I was thinking something in the realm of 40-50 rwhp. Over a hundred though is insane.

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 Рік тому

      Any boosted car in this power range will always see alot more than that. 75-80 is usually bare minimum and gains can be higher on high compression engines like these which are 12:1 the gains really aren't surprising at all. Boost and high compression with e85 is like cheating.

    • @turbinatorlou
      @turbinatorlou Рік тому

      @@midnight347 Impressive stuff.

  • @ericsingletonmrfast
    @ericsingletonmrfast Рік тому

    How much horspower does left nut have

  • @scottjerden2187
    @scottjerden2187 Рік тому

    What pulley was this on?

  • @stangboy3029
    @stangboy3029 Рік тому

    How much PSI??

  • @Hindryx
    @Hindryx Рік тому

    No BAP needed?

  • @dikdawg3438
    @dikdawg3438 Рік тому +1

    No e85 by me so I'm spraying 💯 methanol with 93

  • @R0cketRed
    @R0cketRed Рік тому +3

    You guys down south are so lucky you have a chance to be near a gas station with e85. I've planned my build from the beginning for e85 and willing to drive hours there are no pumps anywhere near me that have e85. So now it's either the good good e85 that I gotta order barrels for lots of $$$$ or I'll just have a WAY over built fuel system. Lol😅😂

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому

      Yea E85 is the way to go on a boosted coyote.

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 Рік тому

      I recommend boostane for those who don't have e85 readily available. You won't get as good a results as e but a significant jump above just 93 or even worse 91.

  • @rubenoctave4156
    @rubenoctave4156 Рік тому

    How much hp is that?

  • @antoniocaballero5540
    @antoniocaballero5540 Рік тому

    93 for daily.E85 for the weekend

  • @bigogtt4905
    @bigogtt4905 Рік тому

    Where are y’all based out of? If y’all are closer down south I’d like to business with y’all when I get my coyote mustang

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому +1

      We are located in Henderson,TN about an 1 1/2 hours from Memphis.

    • @Chuy5ohh
      @Chuy5ohh Рік тому

      @@SpeedAddict731 i’m located in dalton ga brother i got the same exact setup as this car except i’m on stock mani and trying to get on a dyno

  • @jesusm2159
    @jesusm2159 Рік тому +1

    Daily driver? How many miles per day?

  • @PedroSoliz-iy1wc
    @PedroSoliz-iy1wc Місяць тому

    Where’s your shop located I need to ship you my car

  • @HowAmINotFamous
    @HowAmINotFamous Рік тому +1

    Does this mean the car made 850whp on 10psi (with e85)? What do you expect this car to trap? 150?

    • @411redfire
      @411redfire Рік тому +1

      Yes. But I do have NA stage 2 comp cams and headers and ported AFS intake so that might have helped

    • @HowAmINotFamous
      @HowAmINotFamous Рік тому

      @@411redfire have you ever done a 60-130 with it?

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому +1

      My 15 with a Whipple put down 685 on this dyno on 93 and ran 10.5@131. That’s right where it should be in a 3900lb car. As I said in the video I take hp numbers from a dyno with a grain of salt. I was showing comparison as we made two runs on the same dyno and compared the difference between the runs. I would love to see the trap speed on this setup. That data could tell me some things. If it would have been a 10r80 instead of a mt82 hp numbers would have been lower. I’m going to have some 10r80 ESS setups come through the shop and I’m looking forward to seeing the results from them. This makes the second ESS kit on the dyno to kind of shock me with hp numbers. I know a Vortech V3 JT on the same dyno on 93 but a 10R80 car put down 631rwhp tuned by Lund which customer thought would have been more. But that car was stock cams, stock headers and stock intake manifold. Also the V3 JT flows 1450 cfm and the ESS G3 flows 1600 CFM. I have mixed feelings. I need to see this combo get run down the dragstrip to give me more info.

    • @411redfire
      @411redfire Рік тому +1

      Not yet just got car back today. I don't have a draggy so it will be a while before I can do anything like that.

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 Рік тому

      @@411redfire all those things drop boost and add power i.e. you will see more power but less boost. A car with stock intake, no cams and stock headers might see 12-13 psi on the same pulley I would imagine those 3 things together had to drop boost a decent but. They'd be seeing that boost but lower power this is why your numbers are so high at 10 psi.

  • @cyclonekevin6199
    @cyclonekevin6199 Рік тому +1

    Great numbers, from a fuel change.

  • @nj033
    @nj033 Рік тому

    So, how much boost?

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому +1

      He has seen 11 on his boost guage since the dyno when he installed one. This has cams, ported intake, headers and on a manual. I have a 10r80 car that will be going on the dyno in a few weeks with e85 so we can get somewhat of a comparison. Although it has stock cams and stock intake on it.

  • @skullhart
    @skullhart Рік тому

    How much boost was this?

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому

      To be 100% honest we are not sure. I know what they are rated for but seeing the power numbers I’m thinking maybe higher. This blower flows 1600 cfm and that pulley should be around 10psi up top. The next car I do I’m installing boost guage to watch it.

  • @davidwarden6011
    @davidwarden6011 Рік тому

    Is this on the stock clutch?

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому

      It was on the dyno but after the dyno we installed aftermarket clutch in. We knew it wasn’t going to hold the power long term but we wanted you’re welcome be able to dyno it without it being on a brand new clutch so he could get the tuning done then be able to break the clutch in properly.

  • @s-twelvegarage1479
    @s-twelvegarage1479 Рік тому

    Anyone interested in A ess supercharger g3 kit lmk have one for sale

  • @cjnapier037
    @cjnapier037 Рік тому +1

    857 on 10psi. Thats some kind of world record isn't it?

    • @nola504boy1
      @nola504boy1 Рік тому

      Exactly my twins didn’t even make that much on 10 psi. I believe ESS pullies aren’t rated correctly at all.

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому +1

      @@nola504boy1 my twin turbo 2020 Mustang put down 708@8psi on 93 on a Dyno jet dyno.
      As I said in the video I take hp numbers from a dyno with a grain of salt. But they are good for tuning and comparison if using same dyno. I was showing comparison as we made two runs on the same dyno and compared the difference between the runs. I would love to see the trap speed on this setup. That data could tell me some things. This makes the second ESS kit on the dyno to kind of shock me with hp numbers.
      Usually I see comparable numbers from whipples, odins and such as I do from other dynos when I put like setups on this dyno. I know a 18 Mustang with a Vortech V3 JT on the same dyno on 93 but a 10R80 car put down 631rwhp tuned by Lund which customer thought would have been more. But that car was stock cams, stock headers and stock intake manifold. Also the V3 JT flows 1450 cfm and the ESS G3 flows 1600 CFM. This car has cams, ported intake manifold and longtubes with full exhaust so I haven’t ran this combo with other blowers yet with similar boost to compare. I have mixed feelings. I need to see this combo get run down the dragstrip to give me more info.

  • @motiv8d111
    @motiv8d111 Рік тому

    To be fair...what was the peak HP at 7120 RPM on E85 since you ended at 7120 RPM on 93? That is a fair comparison. 7120 rpm vs 7936 rpm nah brother, Centri's build way more power at higher RPM. Not an exact comparison. If you were to end t 7120 on E85, state the HP, then take it up further in RPMs and note the difference, that would be a better comparison. Good video nonetheless 🇺🇸

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому

      Go back and watch the video. Look at peak rpm that the engine was ran to and then look at peak hp rpm. You will see that I actually revved higher on 93 run than I did on the e85 run. The factor being is that in the higher rpm the 93 couldn’t run as much timing to make the hp up top vs what the e85 did. So if anything I gave the 93 more of a chance to make more hp. Yes the peak hp rpm is different from 93 to e85 but both were revved pass their peak hp numbers. Peak hp rpm was 7120 but revved a tad pass 8 and on E85 peak hp rpm was 7569 revved to 7936.

    • @motiv8d111
      @motiv8d111 Рік тому

      @@SpeedAddict731 I am tracking brother. RPM for RPM, what is HP difference? Some 93 allows folks to go to 7800+ RPMs while still gaining power. Great quality 93 vs E85 at the same RPM. Power difference?

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому

      @@motiv8d111 next time I am there I’ll pull up the graphs and check it out for you. I made these pulls and recorded for customer. Then I was sitting back thinking of how many times I had been asked about what the difference is and is it worth it to go e85 with boost on the same boost level. So I decided to make the video after the fact. Had I made it while I was there I would have brought up mid range power difference and such. This was shell 93 and usually does well. I didn’t want to put any additive in and skew the numbers. Like I said in the video I tried to exclude as many variables as I could. That’s also the main reason I stated that we pulled about a degree with the 93 to let people know if we wouldn’t have numbers would have been a little higher on the 93. I say we would still be at a 80-100 hp difference.

    • @motiv8d111
      @motiv8d111 Рік тому

      @@SpeedAddict731 Good stuff brother and that subject alone would make awesome content! Definitely tracking E85 burns better, but I've never seen a direct comparison as you mentioned. 🇺🇸

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 Рік тому

      It is an exact comparison because the lack of octane is why they had to shut it down to begin with. Getting the octane benefit allows more rpm and more timing. Why do people rep 93 so hard I mean use some good fuel in your blown 12:1 car if you're searching for dyno bragging rights.

  • @kevinchandler324
    @kevinchandler324 Рік тому

    How much boost is the 120 mm?

    • @SpeedAddict731
      @SpeedAddict731  Рік тому

      Around 9-10 in the upper rpm from what we have seen in the past.