I GOOFED! My graphs somehow did not include Mint Discs! With the click of a check box I missed in Excel, they are now included. There is a link in the description to our Facebook if you want to see the updated graph. It’s too late for me to delete this video and re upload. 😢
Some of the materials used to create the glow effect react differently to ultraviolet light depending on the wavelength. I personally use a UV flashlight that emits 365NM light and find that it works very well with anything made by MVP, Axiom, streamline. But not so great for my Kastaplast, or my opto moonshine discs, which a 395NM light works significantly better.
love the scientific approach on this! i'm curious what the numbers would be for last year's halloween resistor. that one somehow manages to stand out in my collection of mvp/axiom/streamline glow.
00:00 🌟 The video is a glow disc comparison using a light meter to measure the brightness of different disc brands' glow plastic for 2023. 01:09 📏 The light meter measures the brightness of discs at 10 seconds, 30 seconds, 1 minute, and every 30 seconds up to 10 minutes, providing data for comparison. 02:17 🌌 Disc brands featured in the comparison include Hex, Simon Lizotte Halloween stamp, MVP (R2 recycled core with glow over mold), Lone Star Mad Cat Halloween stamp, Discraft Buzz Halloween stamp, Discmania Glow, Mint Discs UFO, and Glow Destroyer. 03:40 🌒 MVP's green and aqua glows start off the brightest, while MVP R2 and Innova's glow perform less impressively in terms of longevity. 04:23 📈 Comparisons of glow disc brightness from this year to last year show minor improvements in some brands but no significant changes. 05:06 🎇KastaPlast and Discraft have seen minor improvements in their glow performance, with Discraft showing better results. 06:28 🕓 Innova's glow plastic fades quickly, making it less suitable for nighttime disc golf. 06:55 🔦 Visual comparisons of disc brightness at different time intervals reveal variations in glow performance among brands. MVP discs stand out for their longer-lasting glow.
Next time you test, you may want to include charging time. A few of my discs charge up instantly, never get any brighter, then fall off quickly. My Moonshine Deputy takes the longest time to charge up, but then glows for a long time. My best glow disc is an MVP Reactor. It charges fast with UV light, and can still be found in a very dark room after 8-hours.
Does a Lux meter reflect more what a sensor can perceive (ie: everything), or does it mirror well what the human eye can see, in terms of wavelengths (ie: much less than everything)? The nuance is important, because you could be reading a higher lux value that's coming from wavelengths that we won't see.
It’s just what the meter can pick up. So when the Lux meter is reading 0.0, you can still see most the disc with the human eye. That’s why I did the pictures over time at the end of the video, to give a decent representation of how they looked later on in time. Really tho, the Lux readings are just a cool way to show how all the brands drop off compared to others.
Im not familiar with RPM, I mainly stick to the major brands. Iv got stack of glow discs from daddy disc golf again this year. They sent the latest they had from their inventory, no rpm. Too expensive to buy the random brands with my own money.
@TKDiscGolf They are New Zealand company. I understand the cost issue. I ordered 2 from OTB to compare them to my MVPs. I've only seen one video on their glows. They look decent.
First time visiting MD actually!! I’ll definitely be back, such a beautiful state. Was really there to visit with Josh and Casey, met them at Gyropalooza at MVP HQ years ago and have stayed in touch ever sense.
You should think about doing a 2023 part two. You really should compare the '23 Sexton Firebird against last year or another Innova glow disc, since they claim the glow has been improved. I also think that Trilogy Moonshine is being marketed as improved this year. Would be great to see if these claims are truthful or not
Thanks a lot for the video and the effort you put into it! I totally grant MVP the win, but unfortunately, I don't like the feel of the Eclipse 2.0 plastic. I tried several of theses discs (Hex's, Envy's, Reactor's,...) but I never got a firm grip on one of these. Usually I slip them way to early. Since I expect to find my discs inside a few minutes after throwing them, I don't mind if they don't glow as bright after 45 minutes. After experimentating with different glow-plastics myself, I stuck with Kastaplast. Their feel is unsurpassed (at least in my hands) and they are long enough bright enough to find them, even when playing with several players on the card. Cheers, Lutz
@@TKDiscGolf made it super easy to find it. It is such a great disc as well. It was money for me all night with the perfect flight. I think it is going to be a staple and replace the Fission Tesla.
Time and money man, I dug through what I could find at Daddy Disc Golf Hq, they were kind enough to loan me a half dozen discs for this. There is no way I could afford to buy every brand on the market.
@@TKDiscGolf sure, happy to buy you a Moonshine 2.0 disc, as word on the street is it now might be second to MVP. I would also be happy to send you a new Innova Glow, which is only available on the 2023 Sexton Firebirds. It still doesn't hold a candle to the competitors, but it might be close to Discrafts recent improvements.
I went with what ever Daddy Disc Golf had in stock while I was there. Next year I may need to start hunting down discs earlier so I stop planning this last minute haha.
Actually your light source "Charging" system is very non scientific and quite unreliable... Perhaps storing the disks in a light proof satchel for an hour or 2 (what ever it takes to completely unexcite the plastic) then in a dark room (remote light switch in a sealed studio perhaps, transfer the disk to a box with a controlled light source for a timed period so all the disks get the same 'charge' A single extra sweep round with your torch, or a slower sweep, would both give a different charge to a disk, and therefore a different result. You may also find some disks have a brighter rim, or brighter centre... this will also vary result and should be noted. (I have a Halloween Buzz that is clear and the rim glows way more than the centre, and an Envy with no glow on the rim...)
You are right, but it doesn't really matter for the purposes of this video. The individual discs still got charged up the same and glow at 10 minutes is the only functionality important data point.
This isn’t a college level experiment buddy. In a perfect world, I’d build a UV light box, charging the discs evenly and for a specific amount of time and I would run these tests a dozen times per disc to take a true average. However, this is just a hobby. I’m not spending weeks of my time for this short video. I would LOVE to see a college student take this idea and use this for a project in their field of studio, but imo this is best you are going to find on any disc golf UA-cam channel.
@@TKDiscGolf Didn't mean to rile anyone.. just pointing out that if your going to the trouble of graphing the data, you may as well have made the process a little less random... Actually just putting the disks in a covered box for an hour, then turn off the lights in the room. put a disk on a desk under a lamp. turn the lamp on for say 30 secs while grabbing the meter... and at 30 secs turn off the light and start noting the level... Way more repeatable.. and so simple.. otherwise the output is a little arbitrary.
I GOOFED! My graphs somehow did not include Mint Discs! With the click of a check box I missed in Excel, they are now included. There is a link in the description to our Facebook if you want to see the updated graph. It’s too late for me to delete this video and re upload. 😢
Love that you do this!! So helpful to see the stats and comparisons.
Some of the materials used to create the glow effect react differently to ultraviolet light depending on the wavelength. I personally use a UV flashlight that emits 365NM light and find that it works very well with anything made by MVP, Axiom, streamline. But not so great for my Kastaplast, or my opto moonshine discs, which a 395NM light works significantly better.
Mines a 390 according to the Amazon listing, 100LED
This is fascinating. I wonder if there is a light with multiple wavelengths.
Nice video! Would love to see a similar comparison of all the new mvp colors!
Funny you should say that ;) 🔜
Yooo! Great video and I absolutely LOVE the hat 🤙
Thank you sir, for helping out on this!
I was gonna compliment, too ;)
I'm curious to know the wavelength UV you charged these with, since I think that's a variable too. 385nm? 395nm? or even a 365nm?
Mines a 390nm, 100LED black light I got off Amazon.
Love these comparisons! Nice work TK Bros
love the scientific approach on this! i'm curious what the numbers would be for last year's halloween resistor. that one somehow manages to stand out in my collection of mvp/axiom/streamline glow.
Don’t have one from Halloween, but the resistor I do have measured in-between the 2023 lift and hex
Thank you for a quick informative video!
00:00 🌟 The video is a glow disc comparison using a light meter to measure the brightness of different disc brands' glow plastic for 2023.
01:09 📏 The light meter measures the brightness of discs at 10 seconds, 30 seconds, 1 minute, and every 30 seconds up to 10 minutes, providing data for comparison.
02:17 🌌 Disc brands featured in the comparison include Hex, Simon Lizotte Halloween stamp, MVP (R2 recycled core with glow over mold), Lone Star Mad Cat Halloween stamp, Discraft Buzz Halloween stamp, Discmania Glow, Mint Discs UFO, and Glow Destroyer.
03:40 🌒 MVP's green and aqua glows start off the brightest, while MVP R2 and Innova's glow perform less impressively in terms of longevity.
04:23 📈 Comparisons of glow disc brightness from this year to last year show minor improvements in some brands but no significant changes.
05:06 🎇KastaPlast and Discraft have seen minor improvements in their glow performance, with Discraft showing better results.
06:28 🕓 Innova's glow plastic fades quickly, making it less suitable for nighttime disc golf.
06:55 🔦 Visual comparisons of disc brightness at different time intervals reveal variations in glow performance among brands. MVP discs stand out for their longer-lasting glow.
Nice measurements, keep it up!
this is great. thanks very much!
Next time you test, you may want to include charging time. A few of my discs charge up instantly, never get any brighter, then fall off quickly. My Moonshine Deputy takes the longest time to charge up, but then glows for a long time. My best glow disc is an MVP Reactor. It charges fast with UV light, and can still be found in a very dark room after 8-hours.
Does a Lux meter reflect more what a sensor can perceive (ie: everything), or does it mirror well what the human eye can see, in terms of wavelengths (ie: much less than everything)? The nuance is important, because you could be reading a higher lux value that's coming from wavelengths that we won't see.
It’s just what the meter can pick up. So when the Lux meter is reading 0.0, you can still see most the disc with the human eye. That’s why I did the pictures over time at the end of the video, to give a decent representation of how they looked later on in time. Really tho, the Lux readings are just a cool way to show how all the brands drop off compared to others.
Would love to see how the RPM disc compare
Iv heard people say they have decent glow, but I just can’t afford to buy every single brand out there.
@@TKDiscGolf maybe someone from RPM or someone supporting RPM could send you some discs for advertising and testing purposes!
What happened to the Mint disc you showed?...no data
Oh my word! The excel graph dropped it off and I didn’t notice!! On my hand written notes, the one labeled M is for Mint.
Check the video description, I have a link to our Facebook with the updated chart!!! So sorry!!
Great video!
Thanks for checking it out!
This video has criminally low views. Great data!
The UA-cam algo be like that sometimes 😓
If you do this again this year, can you include RPM disc?
Im not familiar with RPM, I mainly stick to the major brands. Iv got stack of glow discs from daddy disc golf again this year. They sent the latest they had from their inventory, no rpm. Too expensive to buy the random brands with my own money.
@TKDiscGolf They are New Zealand company. I understand the cost issue. I ordered 2 from OTB to compare them to my MVPs. I've only seen one video on their glows. They look decent.
Launch glow discs glow forever 👍
You guys are in Ohio? And come to MD once or a couple times a year to grab some glow disc from Daddy DG? Dedication!
First time visiting MD actually!! I’ll definitely be back, such a beautiful state. Was really there to visit with Josh and Casey, met them at Gyropalooza at MVP HQ years ago and have stayed in touch ever sense.
You should think about doing a 2023 part two. You really should compare the '23 Sexton Firebird against last year or another Innova glow disc, since they claim the glow has been improved. I also think that Trilogy Moonshine is being marketed as improved this year. Would be great to see if these claims are truthful or not
Time in money man, I was fortunate to have Daddy Disc Golf help with some of their inventory, but they don’t have everything.
The 23 NS Firebird glow is unfortunately terrible. I was hopeful it would be improved.
the mint UFO was very surprising because it is made by MVP.
It’s clearly a different blend of glow that mint and tsa get, not the full strength 2.0 stuff.
2024 version? With innovas new glow
Already done!!! Go to our channel and scroll down a few videos!
Thanks a lot for the video and the effort you put into it!
I totally grant MVP the win, but unfortunately, I don't like the feel of the Eclipse 2.0 plastic.
I tried several of theses discs (Hex's, Envy's, Reactor's,...) but I never got a firm grip on one of these. Usually I slip them way to early.
Since I expect to find my discs inside a few minutes after throwing them, I don't mind if they don't glow as bright after 45 minutes.
After experimentating with different glow-plastics myself, I stuck with Kastaplast. Their feel is unsurpassed (at least in my hands) and they are long enough bright enough to find them, even when playing with several players on the card.
Cheers, Lutz
The Lift is stupid bright. I had to hide it behind my bag.
It’s dumb bright, the hex too but those Lifts are on another level for some reason. Maybe the rim size and flight plate thickness? 🧐
@@TKDiscGolf made it super easy to find it. It is such a great disc as well. It was money for me all night with the perfect flight. I think it is going to be a staple and replace the Fission Tesla.
No Trilogy Moonshine 2.0?
Time and money man, I dug through what I could find at Daddy Disc Golf Hq, they were kind enough to loan me a half dozen discs for this. There is no way I could afford to buy every brand on the market.
@@TKDiscGolf sure, happy to buy you a Moonshine 2.0 disc, as word on the street is it now might be second to MVP. I would also be happy to send you a new Innova Glow, which is only available on the 2023 Sexton Firebirds. It still doesn't hold a candle to the competitors, but it might be close to Discrafts recent improvements.
Kastaplast joined Trilogy and their glow got way worse and DD way better.
Try out some Gateway glow!
I went with what ever Daddy Disc Golf had in stock while I was there. Next year I may need to start hunting down discs earlier so I stop planning this last minute haha.
So, what's going on with that Ash Buzzz after the video? Hook a local brother up?
Sending it back to Daddy Disc Golf!! They were on loan from them. Check out their site, they might have some left.
@@TKDiscGolf Word! I got a couple. GloZ Buzzz is my go-to, workhorse mid. I'm currently testing the proton Hex...
First!
Actually your light source "Charging" system is very non scientific and quite unreliable...
Perhaps storing the disks in a light proof satchel for an hour or 2 (what ever it takes to completely unexcite the plastic) then in a dark room (remote light switch in a sealed studio perhaps, transfer the disk to a box with a controlled light source for a timed period so all the disks get the same 'charge'
A single extra sweep round with your torch, or a slower sweep, would both give a different charge to a disk, and therefore a different result.
You may also find some disks have a brighter rim, or brighter centre... this will also vary result and should be noted.
(I have a Halloween Buzz that is clear and the rim glows way more than the centre, and an Envy with no glow on the rim...)
You are right, but it doesn't really matter for the purposes of this video. The individual discs still got charged up the same and glow at 10 minutes is the only functionality important data point.
This isn’t a college level experiment buddy. In a perfect world, I’d build a UV light box, charging the discs evenly and for a specific amount of time and I would run these tests a dozen times per disc to take a true average. However, this is just a hobby. I’m not spending weeks of my time for this short video. I would LOVE to see a college student take this idea and use this for a project in their field of studio, but imo this is best you are going to find on any disc golf UA-cam channel.
@@TKDiscGolf Didn't mean to rile anyone.. just pointing out that if your going to the trouble of graphing the data, you may as well have made the process a little less random...
Actually just putting the disks in a covered box for an hour, then turn off the lights in the room. put a disk on a desk under a lamp. turn the lamp on for say 30 secs while grabbing the meter... and at 30 secs turn off the light and start noting the level... Way more repeatable.. and so simple.. otherwise the output is a little arbitrary.
Oohhh glow disc beef!
@@jononeill190 A Glowing rage?
q8D