@@bsmithhammer A Buzzz is a good disc for smoothing out problems. A Roc doesn't do that, but it's also the reason the Roc does so much stuff that a Buzzz won't.
Buzzz is super straight with a soft fade. Roc is a 4 speed that flys like a fairway. Roc is reliable but not overstable. I can understand why people would like one but not the other. They shape very different. I think the roc is better for newer players that want hyzer upshots. Buzzz I think is great for people who can throw a mid over 300 feet and want one that goes super straight. I honestly don’t get the hype behind amateurs and the buzzz. Buzzz SS I think is better for most players distances and many people I talk to agree.
For me 5 Currently Clash Discs Steady Cookie but some kind of Tee bird mold really 4 Some sort of Firebird mold (Currently a Discraft Captain's Raptor and a Kastaplast Stål) 3 Axiom glow Hex (2023 Lizotte or Eclipse 2.0 preferably) 2 Innova Star Wraith or Lone Star Founders Plastic Nimitz (Flies like a seasoned Wraith) 1 K3 Reko (K3 plastic only. Nothing else is acceptable for me throwing or putting.) Reko is number 1 because for me it was seriously difficult to get a putter that worked for me but the Reko was the first one I felt truly confident in and still is. (Note, not exaggerating I tried about 60 different putters and gave each more than enough chances before the Reko.)
1. Westside Vip-ice glimmer Harp. I've got three aces with it and it is perfectly beat in 2. Innova Wraith, also perfectly beat in. Saves me many strokes when in rough 3. Westside Sampo, nice hyzerflip disc, been in my bag the longest time and also got my first ace with it 4. Discraft Buzzz, just the best midrange ever made ;) 5. DIscmania Enigma, my max distance forehand disc
1. Ricky 2x moonshine explorer. Favorite run of disc ever made. I have 4 and buy them up as soon as I see them on eBay haha. 2. 2023 Double G Tour Series Emperor. Absolute bomber. 3. Thoughtspace Aura Construct. Hyzer flips in the woods all day. 4. Thoughtspace Ethereal Praxis. Straightest putter I’ve ever thrown. 5. TI FLX Ledgestone Zone. On the softer side, but super stable and torque resistant. The perfect zone.
I agree with Konnor when he says he hates the buzzz. I used to throw a tourney stamped glow one, but it went into the water. Ever since I haven't found one I like. They don't feel good in my hand anymore. I throw hexes, truths, and origins for the most part
hunter did you throw any defenders? i had a lucid that was dope. and i bag destroyers. i noticed my game slumped since not having it, would sorta end up grabbing it as a goto as like it would fit the same slot tho. idk.
I only bag 1 disc out of all of the ones mentioned. The Md3, c line plastic. Great mid range. Plastic feels great and it shocked me how grippy. I dont see it overtaking my eclipse Hex or Lat64 Compass, but it does a very high glide line that I find hard to mimic with the other mids.
My top 5 would look like this. 5. Dynamic Discs Fluid Justice- What can I say. 5 speeds are my favorite discs. They feel more comfortable and release smoother for me. I’d much rather throw a justice than an over stable approach disc in the 4 speed category. It all comes down to feel. The Justice to me is unmatched in this slot. It’s perfect for spike hyperspace, big flex shots, and any headwind you can imagine. The only reason this is my 5 is because I have thrown the likes of Innova Gators, Caimans, MVP Deflectors, and other discs that fit the same mold as a Justice that are near identical in flight/utility. The Justice won’t be replaced because it isn’t broke, but my fluid Justice was a limited run and if I lose it, I can’t replace it easily. A gummy champion or a gummy Neutron could come out for the disc listed above and that would be all she wrote. 4. Axiom Envy- What’s not to like about an Envy. Torque resistant and they cycle nicely. Great for almost any line needed and it goes far without being squirrelly. Just made really well and it comes in such a variety of plastic types. 3. Innova Rollo- It is such a unique disc that doesn’t come out often for me, but when I need it, there is no other disc in the world that can fly (roll) like it. With a nonexistent forehand, I use the Rollo for touchy wooded shot shaping that need to finish opposite of my backhand. 2. Gateway NXT Ether- Like the most Donetsk run of Wraith, the Ether is perfect for anyone throwing between 380-480 feet. I’m throwing right around 415 consistently, but with the right throw in the right conditions, I have hit over 450 a few times with the Ether. It feels good, has been consistent between runs (as far as I have seen), and is perfect for max distance shots. 1. MVP Reactor- Just the epitome of comfortable for me. Super flat. Torque resistant. Easy to beat in with Fission plastic and more stable with Eclipse plastic. This is my flippy, straight, and stable midrange. I throw it any time I can. Between 200-340 feet. I’d rather power up on this than throw a fairway driver. I’d rather power down on this than throw a putter. It’s perfect.
Luke legitimately looks upset by the other guys saying nice things about Innova. You can tell they’re rubbing it in every time they mention an innova mold🤣
Nah, just a new wave disc golfer who makes it pretty clear in his videos he doesn’t like innova. It’s all good, give it another 2 years and he’ll realize when he wants to replace something as far as availability, consistency and price is concerned no one in the game can touch innova
My discs would be RekoX, Resistor, Eagle, Firebird and Beast, but I'm really commenting to say that Luke ending the video early after Conner roasts the Buzzz had me out of control laughing for a solid two minutes.
5. Bear- in a few years they might move up I bag 3 in different stability 4. Air Sheriff - Until I can do 400 foot hyzers I’m going to keep them in the bag 3. Saint- Longer version of Number 2 2. Fuse- if I’m in the woods I’m throwing one at some point. 1. Megasoft Swan 2 and BT hard Swan 1 - Megasoft glide more than a swan 1 reborn. No seriously they do. But the swan 1 reborn is used a lot more. Soft one is for downhill shots.
5) MVP Neutron Deflector 4)MVP Neutron Relay 3)Infinte N blend Tomb 2) Latitude 64 Opto Saint 1) Yikun Tiger Hammer Chui All the discs except the Deflector are shallow discs and good for smaller than average to average hands. Have not tried the MVP Resistor yet but since it is shallower than the Deflector it might end up replacing the Deflector.
Since noodles would be an upgrade to my arms I prefer the understable discs and primarily from Latitude. Got a river,saint, saint pro, spike putter and the best noodlearmdriverdiscintheworld the Bolt! No particular order. Windy days I stay home😂.
I love throwing all discs, but I don't think any disc will "never leave my bag". My discs that are out of production that I depend on make me nervous and I often think about replacing them. So many molds are just copies of other molds at this point. I guess I'll be sad when my DGR P PDs wear out.
I keep considering the Invader. I throw almost strictly Innova but for some reason don't use any Innova putters. If I ever lose me Envy I'll consider replacing it w an Invader.
Incredibly bummed nobody has the eagle on their list. I've been putting with the same warlock for over 18 years and would hang it up if it meant I couldn't bag an eagle.
Just for clarity, “Anax” is a Greek word, meaning something like “king”, and it could be pronounced like “wah-nox”, but the A sounds are definitely “ah”.
What do you throw for tight fairways with OBs that are further than your Pure while also tighter than what the rest of your discs will skip off the area your aiming for?
@@hiddenleaf414 my pures are for around 325 and in. If I have a straight 375 tunnel shot I grab my slightly beat in aftershock and a good shot would get me parked! Mids don’t really have an extreme skip unless they are on a super steep angle.
Putter: XCOM Bennu(the putter) the Premium Bennu is a great O/S. Mid:Winter Bowl Buzz(with killer Snow Leopard on front)though I have at least 4 other mids in my bag at any moment Fairway: Escape Driver: Discraft Hades/Mint Sweet Honey Forehand: Innova G Star Colossus or G Star Corvette
It barely goes farther than mid ranges? Ok... I can throw a mid 360 but the stalker 440' idk where trevor is getting this idea that drivers barely go farther than mids
What disc will never leave your bag??
Innova Star Starfire
Zone crystal flex
Soft exo tactic and c line md3
Buzzz
1 in particular is the inner core it flies perfectly
Dude no way he actually ended it! That’s wild
Finally Konnor said what ive been thinking about the Buzzz. What a brave man. Im not brave enough to say those things, he was.
Always remember, the Buzzz is just a Roc with the good parts trimmed off the mold.
And yet I'll take a good Buzz over a Roc any day of the week.
@@bsmithhammer A Buzzz is a good disc for smoothing out problems. A Roc doesn't do that, but it's also the reason the Roc does so much stuff that a Buzzz won't.
Buzzz is super straight with a soft fade. Roc is a 4 speed that flys like a fairway. Roc is reliable but not overstable. I can understand why people would like one but not the other. They shape very different. I think the roc is better for newer players that want hyzer upshots. Buzzz I think is great for people who can throw a mid over 300 feet and want one that goes super straight. I honestly don’t get the hype behind amateurs and the buzzz. Buzzz SS I think is better for most players distances and many people I talk to agree.
@@FearTheWeird300 I love both the Buzzz and the Buzzz ss, but the SS is without doubt best for new players.
Kon-man’s take on the buzzz is hilarious and relatable. What a man of the people!
Good thing Trevor didn’t put his shark in his top 5 😭
Came to watch just so I could complain in the comments if he did🤣
I wish someone would make a comp of Trevor and his shark shanks
Nothing wrong with a shark. Shark3 is just a Md3
MVP Wave for me. Fission Waves are my favorite.
I have a 147 gram fission wave that will only leave my bag if I lose it.
Fission waves are money👌
My 1st disc was a Wave and I still have it. I need a new one it’s super flippy now. I’m going to try that fission. Thanks guys
Yes
Got 2
@gatewaydiscssports - Why have you not endorsed Konnor yet?? This guy is one of the rare few pushing Gateway on UA-cam
And not just the wizard. All of it
You guys should do a round where you each only use these 5 discs
5: MVP Detour
4: Discmania FD
3: Clash Discs Cookie
2: Innova Roadrunner
1: MVP Matrix
For me
5 Currently Clash Discs Steady Cookie but some kind of Tee bird mold really
4 Some sort of Firebird mold (Currently a Discraft Captain's Raptor and a Kastaplast Stål)
3 Axiom glow Hex (2023 Lizotte or Eclipse 2.0 preferably)
2 Innova Star Wraith or Lone Star Founders Plastic Nimitz (Flies like a seasoned Wraith)
1 K3 Reko (K3 plastic only. Nothing else is acceptable for me throwing or putting.)
Reko is number 1 because for me it was seriously difficult to get a putter that worked for me but the Reko was the first one I felt truly confident in and still is. (Note, not exaggerating I tried about 60 different putters and gave each more than enough chances before the Reko.)
5. Crystal flex Zone - perfect approach disc
4. Sexton Firebird - amazing feel and constant finish
3. Discraft Meteor - hyzerflip machine
2. Teebird & TL - perfect fairway driver combination
1. Wraith - always need to have one seasoned to perfection
4:44 it has a 1.6cm rim which is consistent with a typical 6 speed disc.
Glad you mentioned your return policy! I hope to buy a MVP Resistor, MVP Servo, Clash Vanilla and probably more!
1. Westside Vip-ice glimmer Harp. I've got three aces with it and it is perfectly beat in
2. Innova Wraith, also perfectly beat in. Saves me many strokes when in rough
3. Westside Sampo, nice hyzerflip disc, been in my bag the longest time and also got my first ace with it
4. Discraft Buzzz, just the best midrange ever made ;)
5. DIscmania Enigma, my max distance forehand disc
Mamba, Maul, Iron Samurai 4, Harp, Swan 1 Reborn ❤
Edit: I lied, I just kicked the Mamba out of the bag!
Roc, Wraith, Leopard, EMac Judge, a Harp that my 4 year old drew a self portrait on.
1. Ricky 2x moonshine explorer. Favorite run of disc ever made. I have 4 and buy them up as soon as I see them on eBay haha.
2. 2023 Double G Tour Series Emperor. Absolute bomber.
3. Thoughtspace Aura Construct. Hyzer flips in the woods all day.
4. Thoughtspace Ethereal Praxis. Straightest putter I’ve ever thrown.
5. TI FLX Ledgestone Zone. On the softer side, but super stable and torque resistant. The perfect zone.
That ending tho😂
I agree with Konnor when he says he hates the buzzz. I used to throw a tourney stamped glow one, but it went into the water. Ever since I haven't found one I like. They don't feel good in my hand anymore. I throw hexes, truths, and origins for the most part
hunter did you throw any defenders? i had a lucid that was dope. and i bag destroyers. i noticed my game slumped since not having it, would sorta end up grabbing it as a goto as like it would fit the same slot tho. idk.
The color glow Thunderbird is so underrated. Absolute money.
Konner is right about the Buzzz lol
I only bag 1 disc out of all of the ones mentioned. The Md3, c line plastic. Great mid range. Plastic feels great and it shocked me how grippy. I dont see it overtaking my eclipse Hex or Lat64 Compass, but it does a very high glide line that I find hard to mimic with the other mids.
I love and completely agree with konner's take on prodigy lol.
My top 5 would look like this.
5. Dynamic Discs Fluid Justice- What can I say. 5 speeds are my favorite discs. They feel more comfortable and release smoother for me. I’d much rather throw a justice than an over stable approach disc in the 4 speed category. It all comes down to feel. The Justice to me is unmatched in this slot. It’s perfect for spike hyperspace, big flex shots, and any headwind you can imagine. The only reason this is my 5 is because I have thrown the likes of Innova Gators, Caimans, MVP Deflectors, and other discs that fit the same mold as a Justice that are near identical in flight/utility. The Justice won’t be replaced because it isn’t broke, but my fluid Justice was a limited run and if I lose it, I can’t replace it easily. A gummy champion or a gummy Neutron could come out for the disc listed above and that would be all she wrote.
4. Axiom Envy- What’s not to like about an Envy. Torque resistant and they cycle nicely. Great for almost any line needed and it goes far without being squirrelly. Just made really well and it comes in such a variety of plastic types.
3. Innova Rollo- It is such a unique disc that doesn’t come out often for me, but when I need it, there is no other disc in the world that can fly (roll) like it. With a nonexistent forehand, I use the Rollo for touchy wooded shot shaping that need to finish opposite of my backhand.
2. Gateway NXT Ether- Like the most Donetsk run of Wraith, the Ether is perfect for anyone throwing between 380-480 feet. I’m throwing right around 415 consistently, but with the right throw in the right conditions, I have hit over 450 a few times with the Ether. It feels good, has been consistent between runs (as far as I have seen), and is perfect for max distance shots.
1. MVP Reactor- Just the epitome of comfortable for me. Super flat. Torque resistant. Easy to beat in with Fission plastic and more stable with Eclipse plastic. This is my flippy, straight, and stable midrange. I throw it any time I can. Between 200-340 feet. I’d rather power up on this than throw a fairway driver. I’d rather power down on this than throw a putter. It’s perfect.
Seeing clips from yahoola creek was nice
Luke legitimately looks upset by the other guys saying nice things about Innova. You can tell they’re rubbing it in every time they mention an innova mold🤣
Can Luke not throw innova or something? I don’t get it
Nah, just a new wave disc golfer who makes it pretty clear in his videos he doesn’t like innova. It’s all good, give it another 2 years and he’ll realize when he wants to replace something as far as availability, consistency and price is concerned no one in the game can touch innova
Dude just seems like a douche honestly
My discs would be RekoX, Resistor, Eagle, Firebird and Beast, but I'm really commenting to say that Luke ending the video early after Conner roasts the Buzzz had me out of control laughing for a solid two minutes.
For me as a forehand dominant player:
5. Discraft Zone OS
4. Axiom Crave
3. Innova Firebird
2. Discraft Thrasher
1. Discraft Zone
5. Bear- in a few years they might move up I bag 3 in different stability
4. Air Sheriff - Until I can do 400 foot hyzers I’m going to keep them in the bag
3. Saint- Longer version of Number 2
2. Fuse- if I’m in the woods I’m throwing one at some point.
1. Megasoft Swan 2 and BT hard Swan 1 - Megasoft glide more than a swan 1 reborn. No seriously they do. But the swan 1 reborn is used a lot more. Soft one is for downhill shots.
Hunters gotta try a Feedback as a Thunderbird clone if he ever had to replace it! Closest disc I’ve found to the Thunderbird!
PA3, MD1, Judge, Thunderbird and Wraith.
I have 5 first run Anax I absolutely love this disc
Judge, Chief, Chariot, Warrior, Eagle
Wave, envy, wraith, quake, mantra in no particular order
Started throwing the shaman because I likes how it flew for Connor and I tend to throw my pure too far. It's not leaving my bag any time soon.
5) MVP Neutron Deflector
4)MVP Neutron Relay
3)Infinte N blend Tomb
2) Latitude 64 Opto Saint
1) Yikun Tiger Hammer Chui
All the discs except the Deflector are shallow discs and good for smaller than average to average hands. Have not tried the MVP Resistor yet but since it is shallower than the Deflector it might end up replacing the Deflector.
Since noodles would be an upgrade to my arms I prefer the understable discs and primarily from Latitude. Got a river,saint, saint pro, spike putter and the best noodlearmdriverdiscintheworld the Bolt! No particular order. Windy days I stay home😂.
5. Athena 4. Zone 3. Hex 2. Wave 1. Luna
With Discmania being apart of House of Discs is their c-line plastic still their Italian blend plastic?
😂😂😂
Luke's #1 is by far my favourite.
Which one is Luke
1. Halo Savant
2. Discraft Sol
3. Sexton Firebird
4. Ballista Pro Lat.64
5. Axiom Vanish
Sidewinder
Envy
Roc3
Firebird
Teebird
Sidewinder is a legit underrated disc!
Konner should get a pic with James from Donut!!! WOOO Donut Foundation colab!
Everything Clash 🤠👌
Fuse, Envy, PD
Just a heads up, 300 Firm is the same formula as 350g. The only thing that changes was the name.
I love throwing all discs, but I don't think any disc will "never leave my bag". My discs that are out of production that I depend on make me nervous and I often think about replacing them. So many molds are just copies of other molds at this point. I guess I'll be sad when my DGR P PDs wear out.
hunter got the “Chuck a way “ destroyer back from the water?
If you can Escape it, it might be Insanity!!!!!!!!!!!! Best driver ever
MVP R2 Spin, MVP Uplink, Discraft Raptor, Ledgestone Jawbreaker Luna, (any) Discraft Zone
5 Rollo 4 berg 3katana 2 Valkyrie 1 tee bird I’ve had for 12 years one of the first discs I ever bought
I've had the same star Teebird in my bag since '08. Still doesn't flip over. The pinnacle of flying disc design 👌
Well at least Konnor has some class going with the roc at number one
My top 5 that won't leave my bag mmmm 5. discraft heat 4. latitude 64 maverick 3. dare devil Timberwolves 2. Mvp inertia 1. Axiom hex
I use esp Anax and beat in Jawbreaker Anax that is very flippy. I would check out Jawbreaker plastic
1. Midnight Prowl
2. Fission Tesla
3. Horizon DD1
4. CapRap
5. MX1
Tell Trevor to try the mvp deflector (proton)... if he likes what the zone os does for him... it'll be gold
For me it's the Envy, Crave, Captains Raptor, Jet, and Reactor and Hex
My five:
Plasma Trace
ESP Heat
Invader
Caiman
Valkyrie
I keep considering the Invader. I throw almost strictly Innova but for some reason don't use any Innova putters. If I ever lose me Envy I'll consider replacing it w an Invader.
My Five:
5. Soda
4. Beast
3. Banzai
2. Cro
1. Maverick
5.Berg 4.CD1 3.PD 2.MD3 1.Tactic
Zone/zone os, and crave
JK Aviar
Halo Leopard 3
Halo Valkyrie
Star Mako3
Soft Pro Rhyno
Was Swanky's #1 a Buzzz?? LOL All my Buzzz's are wall hangers, so I'm not sure how they fly. Hold on, did Konnor just punk you?? lol
Servo, Armadillo, Pyro, Berg, Jarn
I've heard of the Burg, but not the other ones. Who makes them?
MVP Servo
Lonestar Armadillo
Axiom Pyro
kastaplast berg and Jarn
@@jasonbarksdale8307 I want to try out The Lonestar someday!
@@brianb6969 kinda my go to approach disc super straight try it in bravo plastic. Similar to the feel of Innova Star
Servo, Crave, Envy, Underworld, Wave
Toro, Chariot, Crave, Firebird, Destroyer
Incredibly bummed nobody has the eagle on their list. I've been putting with the same warlock for over 18 years and would hang it up if it meant I couldn't bag an eagle.
The Escape is great, not at all flippy for me. It goes dead straight for me. I agree should be in your bag. Alternates might be River or Leopard 3.
Zone , zone , zone ,zone and zone
Does that mean the final disc was a buzzz? 😂
What was Luke’s #1?
I’m assuming it’s a Chris Dickerson Buzzz
Get Freaky Z Flx Zone, Axiom Cosmic Nuetron Crave, Innova Halo Star TL3, Mint Discs Eternal Alpha, Axiom Timelapse
Insanity. I love insanity that I have 2 in my bag. Different weights depending on wind.
Did Luke give his number 1 disc?
It was the Chris Dickerson Buzzz lol
@@SwankyDiscGolf Ha ha! That's funny. I'd stick with it. It's better than the Roc. :)
Trevor, try the Nathan Queen Wraith’s. They are a great run that is super easy to hyzer flip but not too understable to turn and burn
Hunter should try a Zeus
ESP Sol
Wave, buzz, wizard, essence, isolation scavenger. 🤷♂️
The feedback heavily slept on cuz people don’t like prodigy
5. Latitude 64 Hope
4. Westside Harp
3. Westside Warship
2. Latitude 64 Brave
1. Latitude 64 Fuse
Just for clarity, “Anax” is a Greek word, meaning something like “king”, and it could be pronounced like “wah-nox”, but the A sounds are definitely “ah”.
I don’t even have 5 different molds in my bag.
i get mold minimalism... but dawg... how?
Putter: Pure
Throwing Putter: Also Pure in premium plastic
Midrange: Aftershock
Control driver: Locust
Max Distance: Bosses at different stabilities
@@peytonconrady3317
^ see above
What do you throw for tight fairways with OBs that are further than your Pure while also tighter than what the rest of your discs will skip off the area your aiming for?
@@hiddenleaf414 my pures are for around 325 and in. If I have a straight 375 tunnel shot I grab my slightly beat in aftershock and a good shot would get me parked! Mids don’t really have an extreme skip unless they are on a super steep angle.
Konner I have 2 PFN spirits for you
Putter: XCOM Bennu(the putter) the Premium Bennu is a great O/S. Mid:Winter Bowl Buzz(with killer Snow Leopard on front)though I have at least 4 other mids in my bag at any moment Fairway: Escape Driver: Discraft Hades/Mint Sweet Honey Forehand: Innova G Star Colossus or G Star Corvette
There is a disc called the Onyx...
Trevor has a signature disc and it’s not in his top 5😂😂
Luster c-blend emperor is better than any destroyer.
Envy, rpm kea, infinite sphinx, pd, Grace.
Pretty sure GG throws an emperor and not a Destroyer
Hell yeah Konner, Buzzs suck
Who’s the leprechaun?
Why is Konner's beard so uneven? Is that intentional?
It barely goes farther than mid ranges? Ok... I can throw a mid 360 but the stalker 440' idk where trevor is getting this idea that drivers barely go farther than mids
Boyz Explaining: The discs won't leave my bag ever, I accidentally epoxied them inside, they are a fixture now.
Did Luke skip his #1?!
gotta be careful saying Big Hunt.
Discmania CD1 is better than the Escape….
Insanity, Luna, fd3, zone, DD1. Not in that order.
Ion is a better Wizard