The reason Austin loves the 2013 Mac Pro is because when his apartment burnt down, a bunch of tech youtubers came together and gifted him one. It was a super heartwarming video and I recommend you watch it.
12:57, that's a spot on advice for buying an ipad. I bought a 2017 ipad pro 12.9 gen2 in 2019, I'm still using it today and it works great. Use it for notes, videos and browsing when a laptop isn't needed and if it weren't for the touch screen issues that came up recently, could easily get a few more years out of it.
Almost every Apple product I've had has basically been a hand-me-down or purchased used -- 5 years old is kinda the sweet spot for price and longevity. You can usually squeeze a little more life out of them past that (Ex. OpenCore Legacy Patcher, older app support on iOS, etc) but before long you start needing/wanting more features and better performance.
@@CritScout152 yeah it's gone from 3-4 minute boot to 40ish seconds. Apps launch really quick now. Given that we've had it since 2013, it's nice to get a few more years out of it 👍
I still use a 13" mid-2012 MBP, great lil machine. You can add up 16GB of RAM, as well as replace the disc drive with a 2nd SSD. Supports a 2nd display with a TB2 -> HDMI adapter.
I'm still pissed that not only has Apple discontinued the iPod touch but the most recent one won't even get iOS 16. That seems like adding insult to injury considering I think that versions only been out for about 2 to 3 years. I mean ouch.
Nope, that's where apple does the engraving. It most likely had a schools or company's info on it. The refurbisher then used an industrial laser cnc to etch the area removing it.
Also fair. I just know on my iPad it has the imei and “genuine apple product” which is technically illegal to sell due to some court crap awhile back if it goes through customs and says genuine apple product or has the logo it has to be royaltied or confiscated. But also referbs generally aren’t allowed within the apple care program despite how new the device may be.
I have a late 2015 iMac and to make it faster I'm booting macOS from an external solid-state drive. It's much faster now and easier than trying to open the iMac.
The imac is upgradeable if you are brave enough to take the screen off. I've just changed out a hdd to ssd on a late 2012 iMac (same chassis) and it's night and day difference, and actually usable now!
12:25. That was engraved with a fiber laser. We have the same laser Apple uses and engrave AirPods, AirTags, etc. We can also remove engraving on devices, and we just engrave away the aluminum and make a rectangle like that.
it would be interesting to see if its possible to update these devices with another OS other than Apple OS so that they can actually be useful beyond what Apple thinks it should be.
I have a first gen Macbook Air that I put Pop O/S on after watching a recent LTT video, I can't remember why exactly, but its zippy AF now. I've also got a 2003(or 5) Macbook 2,1 too that I'm gonna probably put a different Linux flavour on just to learn more.
You can patch these with Ventura once its out just find the forums people are able to get these to install the latest os even when not supported. I have a 2013 imac that i patched Monterey on and it not officially supported by apple. Its runs it great!
I mean with macs you could always try linux and that would probably be more supported and faster than whatever the latest version of macos an outdated mac can use is BUT since apple silicon came out, linux still isn't an option for those. Asahi linux is being developed for them, but it's still not complete enough to be considered usable imo
I love my mid-2012 MacBook Pro, which I upgraded with a 500 GB 870 EVO SSD and 16 GB of RAM. I kept it at Mojave so I can run 32-bit applications and games. I also love your enthusiasm for the 2013 Mac Pro, which I still desperately want to get.
Back when Austin's apartment burnt down back in 2014 with most of his tech and other belongings, a bunch of tech UA-camrs came together and bought him a 2013 Mac Pro. Super wholesome video if you get the chance, but I reckon that's one of the reasons why he likes the 2013 Mac Pro so much.
I still have my original iPad Air, albeit it is no longer my main tablet. Pretty much the only thing that still works well is UA-cam. Something I would have been interested to see is all of the cheapest products purchased directly from Apple rather than Amazon, as with that you are getting products that will still be supported for hopefully a few years.
The iPad would have originally had an engraving on the back like you can get when you buy new from Apple. They etched out that rectangle as a way of “erasing” the engraving
With an SSD, OpenCore Legacy Patcher is 100% worth it to get Monterey on the 2012 unibody. It has metal capable graphics so it will run perfectly fine!
******** Ok. I don't know much about computers. I watch Austin, Ken, This Is, and Linus. I'm slowly getting the hang of it, but I gotta say..... That Mac/trashcan thing looks sick AF! With modern technology, updated components (a lot of people getting into that minimalist style) I think they should bring that back out!!!! Brushed mate stainless, with RGB inside, that glows out of the top and around the bottom!!?? 👌
that iPad Air is VERY likely a fleet iPad, aka, a school iPad. That white spot location lines up almost perfectly with the engraving that school districts put on those things. Those engravings were laser etched into the back for some reason so unless they swapped the shell, they weren’t getting it off.
The skin was so funny, I used to sell 2010 unibody MacBooks and spent good time re-finishing the lids, then while searching for donors or candidates I'd see those big seller listings with just a ton of pre-applied skin options XD
I personally don’t mind if the lid is scratched or dented a bit, as long as it works and as long as the seller makes sure to note the damage in the listing.
I feel like the old studio is better. The white walls and the window make it so much brighter than the new one, plus the greens and oranges that contrast on the background make for a pleasant scenery. Looking around the old studio outside of the background area also gave it a better feeling. I'm sure the new studio is overall a better working area, but if the recording room is inferior it might be a dealbreaker.
It is incredibly frustrating to use an iOS or iPadOs device that is no longer supported because a lot of apps cannot be installed so I would steer clear of older iPads. For $209, you can get an Apple refurbished 7th Gen iPad. There are 2017 iPads for less than $130 on eBay.
It’s a bit better if you used a device around that time as you can reinstall older versions of apps if you previously had that version installed. I wish they start doing it like macOS doe it where if you download the latest version on a newer Mac you can download the latest compatible version on and older Mac. I’ve done it by downloading the latest apple productivity apps on my Mac Mini running Monterey and then I downloaded the older version on a Mac running Snow Leopard.
I love all the new features with the 14! I have an unboxing of my white iPhone 13 pro max over on my channel... I'll most likely upgrade next year and go with the black iPhone 😏
In defense of the iPad, it makes sense for someone getting in for a kid. They’ll use it for basically just UA-cam and it won’t matter when they drop it and it breaks compared to a $300 current gen
If you just slap an SSD in the iMac and use a patcher for the next MacOS versions, that thing still has years of use to offer. We don't seem to get such good deals in Europe
You can go cheaper for MacBook. I still use a 2010 white MacBook for some basic tasks to this very day and it was less than $100. (and shockingly, Google Chrome still fully supports High Sierra)
You can even update it to Mojave or Catalina(you CAN go Monterey, but it gets a little glitchy on non-metal supported cards) I have a 2010 13” MacBook Pro running Mojave. I use it as my go to machine why working on older computers as it’s light and decently quick. It has the max 2.66ghz Core 2 Duo and 8gb of ram. I got it for $135.
@@EvilTurkeySlices I had it on Catalina for a while, but it had issues. Then I tried Linux for a while, but ended up back on High Sierra. Just for the fun of it, I maxed the RAM to 16GB (which is weird as it now has more than my MacBook Air and my M1 Mac Mini)
The reason Austin loves the 2013 Mac Pro is because when his apartment burnt down, a bunch of tech youtubers came together and gifted him one. It was a super heartwarming video and I recommend you watch it.
i remember...
Wonder if he still has that iPad.
That was the first time I got introduced to Austin
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I agree with what they said in the vid. I would love that design to return with an M series chip in it and updated io
Cheap and Apple don't usually exist in the same sentence 😂
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Fr i like men
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The reason ipods are so collectable is actually pretty dank...
see dank pods
12:57, that's a spot on advice for buying an ipad. I bought a 2017 ipad pro 12.9 gen2 in 2019, I'm still using it today and it works great. Use it for notes, videos and browsing when a laptop isn't needed and if it weren't for the touch screen issues that came up recently, could easily get a few more years out of it.
Almost every Apple product I've had has basically been a hand-me-down or purchased used -- 5 years old is kinda the sweet spot for price and longevity. You can usually squeeze a little more life out of them past that (Ex. OpenCore Legacy Patcher, older app support on iOS, etc) but before long you start needing/wanting more features and better performance.
iPhone 5s was me, I could have gotten a lot more life out of it but it got water damaged. iPhone SE 2 now, used
With the iMac, you can upgrade the HDD to ssd. Just did the same with our 2013 model for about £40 and it flies now
I bet it runs better since it has a Solid State Drive instead of a hard drive
@@CritScout152 yeah it's gone from 3-4 minute boot to 40ish seconds. Apps launch really quick now. Given that we've had it since 2013, it's nice to get a few more years out of it 👍
I currently use a M.2 Drive that is 1 terrabyte
@@CritScout152 I have 64gb you wish you were me
i wish i could upgrade mine but the screen is cracked and i'm afraid it might get worse if i try to open it
The white part on the back is probably the Apple personalization being 'removed' i.e. The iPad of Matt
RIP THE IPOD …. YOU WILL BE REMEMBERED
I used that similarly specked MacBook Pro until a year ago. It was usable for very basic stuff.
I still use a 13" mid-2012 MBP, great lil machine. You can add up 16GB of RAM, as well as replace the disc drive with a 2nd SSD. Supports a 2nd display with a TB2 -> HDMI adapter.
Joanna makes these videos hilarious 😂
I'm still pissed that not only has Apple discontinued the iPod touch but the most recent one won't even get iOS 16. That seems like adding insult to injury considering I think that versions only been out for about 2 to 3 years. I mean ouch.
Matt has that wise uncle vibes. Ken is the geek. Austin....is the youngest sibling who cries at Toys R Us.
You can tell this comment before This Is went REALLY unhinged. Austin is often the only real adult in the room, and that includes Kinsey and Aron 😂
Matt used to be austins’ professor
It's actually easy to upgrade the OS with opencore legacy patcher. I've done it on a bunch of old macs and they all run fine.
I installed monterey to 2008 imac with SSD upgrade and it stll 100% usable for media consumption, browsing the web etc.
Sounds like Matt needs his own channel.
This Is
And STAY in his own channel...
This is a travesty that he doesn't have a channel yet
Meh 0/10 wouldnt watch
@@PokeMan69 Cringe, Matt is the Golden Boy
The increase in iPod collecting is most likely due to the UA-camr Dankpods who is actually amazing.
not gunna lie, 225 for that iMac is a goooood deal.
That etching is where the serial and authenticity info usually reside but my guess is to remove it from apple based warranties
Nope, that's where apple does the engraving. It most likely had a schools or company's info on it. The refurbisher then used an industrial laser cnc to etch the area removing it.
Also fair. I just know on my iPad it has the imei and “genuine apple product” which is technically illegal to sell due to some court crap awhile back if it goes through customs and says genuine apple product or has the logo it has to be royaltied or confiscated. But also referbs generally aren’t allowed within the apple care program despite how new the device may be.
I have a late 2015 iMac and to make it faster I'm booting macOS from an external solid-state drive. It's much faster now and easier than trying to open the iMac.
that lil jon WHAT! got me rolling on the floor 😂😂😂😂
The imac is upgradeable if you are brave enough to take the screen off. I've just changed out a hdd to ssd on a late 2012 iMac (same chassis) and it's night and day difference, and actually usable now!
1:10 NOOO AUSTIN! DON'T MAKE ME REMIND THIS PAIN AGAIN!!!
Austin: Cheap Apple products
Ordinary person: i would kill for an Apple product
i love this type of matt and austin content!
12:25. That was engraved with a fiber laser. We have the same laser Apple uses and engrave AirPods, AirTags, etc. We can also remove engraving on devices, and we just engrave away the aluminum and make a rectangle like that.
"oooookay"
it would be interesting to see if its possible to update these devices with another OS other than Apple OS so that they can actually be useful beyond what Apple thinks it should be.
I have a first gen Macbook Air that I put Pop O/S on after watching a recent LTT video, I can't remember why exactly, but its zippy AF now. I've also got a 2003(or 5) Macbook 2,1 too that I'm gonna probably put a different Linux flavour on just to learn more.
You can patch these with Ventura once its out just find the forums people are able to get these to install the latest os even when not supported. I have a 2013 imac that i patched Monterey on and it not officially supported by apple. Its runs it great!
Project Sandcastle existed, it brought android to legacy iphones
It's Intel, so you can install Linux on the iMac. I'm not sure if both GPUs would be supported on the trash can Mac.
I mean with macs you could always try linux and that would probably be more supported and faster than whatever the latest version of macos an outdated mac can use is BUT since apple silicon came out, linux still isn't an option for those. Asahi linux is being developed for them, but it's still not complete enough to be considered usable imo
Yay Matt and ken are back
1:56 lmaooo the fist bump
so strange to see the old recording studio since they moved to the new one 😂
I love my mid-2012 MacBook Pro, which I upgraded with a 500 GB 870 EVO SSD and 16 GB of RAM. I kept it at Mojave so I can run 32-bit applications and games.
I also love your enthusiasm for the 2013 Mac Pro, which I still desperately want to get.
Back when Austin's apartment burnt down back in 2014 with most of his tech and other belongings, a bunch of tech UA-camrs came together and bought him a 2013 Mac Pro. Super wholesome video if you get the chance, but I reckon that's one of the reasons why he likes the 2013 Mac Pro so much.
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That's a really sweet story. Given those circumstances, I can certainly understand Austin's affection for this computer. :)
Hope ur having a nice day and love your content. Keep it up 👍
4:16 I got one of those w/ i7… I upgraded to 1 TB SSD & 16GBs of RAM… it’s showing it’s age but it was great for 2012.
good episode! always so proud of you 🙂
when he said let me go to the bast channel i immediately got a commercial of mrwhostheboss🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
apple and cheap are never words I thought I would hear together
That’s what I do with my kids iPads. Always buy the newest cheapest one so it lasts them a few years.
Expecting this video to just be empty as everything they make is expensive 😂😂
The only cheep apple product is an actual Apple
I still have my original iPad Air, albeit it is no longer my main tablet. Pretty much the only thing that still works well is UA-cam. Something I would have been interested to see is all of the cheapest products purchased directly from Apple rather than Amazon, as with that you are getting products that will still be supported for hopefully a few years.
The iPad would have originally had an engraving on the back like you can get when you buy new from Apple. They etched out that rectangle as a way of “erasing” the engraving
With an SSD, OpenCore Legacy Patcher is 100% worth it to get Monterey on the 2012 unibody.
It has metal capable graphics so it will run perfectly fine!
Missed u guys
matt was on point this episode
Gotta say I like Matt co-hosting with Austin. I'd like to see more of this format.
I personally dont. he's act like he's always on top of Austin's spiel
Matt was spitting facts this whole episode
10:05 “absolutely not young man”😂😂
******** Ok. I don't know much about computers. I watch Austin, Ken, This Is, and Linus. I'm slowly getting the hang of it, but I gotta say..... That Mac/trashcan thing looks sick AF! With modern technology, updated components (a lot of people getting into that minimalist style) I think they should bring that back out!!!! Brushed mate stainless, with RGB inside, that glows out of the top and around the bottom!!?? 👌
Thank You
that iPad Air is VERY likely a fleet iPad, aka, a school iPad. That white spot location lines up almost perfectly with the engraving that school districts put on those things. Those engravings were laser etched into the back for some reason so unless they swapped the shell, they weren’t getting it off.
"EAR CRABS!"
Matt said as a crab raved around his ear.
The bigger guy is gasping for air after doing small tasks damn
these people have made it kinda expensive 😊😊
Matt rocking the Genny t-shirt! I’m originally from Buffalo, NY and had far too many Genny beers back in the day.
The skin was so funny, I used to sell 2010 unibody MacBooks and spent good time re-finishing the lids, then while searching for donors or candidates I'd see those big seller listings with just a ton of pre-applied skin options XD
I personally don’t mind if the lid is scratched or dented a bit, as long as it works and as long as the seller makes sure to note the damage in the listing.
I Love Austin Evans Videos 💙🐊
Mack did not let Austin talk lol.
‘I’m glad my mom died book’ @0:15 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Really Great Video Austin 👍🏻👏🏻
Ayee Matt reppin' the ROC!
I feel like the old studio is better. The white walls and the window make it so much brighter than the new one, plus the greens and oranges that contrast on the background make for a pleasant scenery. Looking around the old studio outside of the background area also gave it a better feeling.
I'm sure the new studio is overall a better working area, but if the recording room is inferior it might be a dealbreaker.
From Western NY, I have to give a +1 props to the Genesee Brewing Company t-shirt Matt is rocking...
I miss Ken 😭
I’m genuinely convinced 2012 MacBooks are immortal. Never owned one personally but I’ll just see people casually on them with 75 chrome tabs open
It is incredibly frustrating to use an iOS or iPadOs device that is no longer supported because a lot of apps cannot be installed so I would steer clear of older iPads. For $209, you can get an Apple refurbished 7th Gen iPad. There are 2017 iPads for less than $130 on eBay.
It’s a bit better if you used a device around that time as you can reinstall older versions of apps if you previously had that version installed. I wish they start doing it like macOS doe it where if you download the latest version on a newer Mac you can download the latest compatible version on and older Mac. I’ve done it by downloading the latest apple productivity apps on my Mac Mini running Monterey and then I downloaded the older version on a Mac running Snow Leopard.
5:42 if i recall correctly i remember watching when a tech UA-camr's things burned with a house and someone buying this for them
Macs not being supported it’s not really a problem
It’s so easy to update anyways
I love these videos! I love it when the crew gets to be apart of the video too! Get the crew to be apart of the videos more! :)
My cousin asked if Austin is nick eh 30 😂 i mean he ain’t wrong they look similar lol
4:17 my grandma has that laptop and I downloaded Minecraft onto it. It runs 120 - 160 fps. 😊
lolol 6:13 is my favorite part
I love all the new features with the 14! I have an unboxing of my white iPhone 13 pro max over on my channel... I'll most likely upgrade next year and go with the black iPhone 😏
How am I just finding this channel !!! New fan for sure!!!
In defense of the iPad, it makes sense for someone getting in for a kid. They’ll use it for basically just UA-cam and it won’t matter when they drop it and it breaks compared to a $300 current gen
I have never seen the garbage can before and I am so saddened by the lack of foresight/testing it suffered. That motherboard is just gorgeous.
Cheap and Apple products together in a sentence confuses my brain
WAIT 170 for that MacBook?!??! It went for like 1200 in 2012!!
I never thought i would see cheap and apple in the same sentence lmaoo
If you just slap an SSD in the iMac and use a patcher for the next MacOS versions, that thing still has years of use to offer. We don't seem to get such good deals in Europe
Shoutout to Matt for the Genesee Brewing shirt!!
Love the Genny shirt Matt!
It sounds like Matt doesn't understand the whole concept of the video.
Buying every CHEAP Apple product
You can go cheaper for MacBook. I still use a 2010 white MacBook for some basic tasks to this very day and it was less than $100. (and shockingly, Google Chrome still fully supports High Sierra)
You can even update it to Mojave or Catalina(you CAN go Monterey, but it gets a little glitchy on non-metal supported cards) I have a 2010 13” MacBook Pro running Mojave. I use it as my go to machine why working on older computers as it’s light and decently quick. It has the max 2.66ghz Core 2 Duo and 8gb of ram. I got it for $135.
@@EvilTurkeySlices I had it on Catalina for a while, but it had issues. Then I tried Linux for a while, but ended up back on High Sierra. Just for the fun of it, I maxed the RAM to 16GB (which is weird as it now has more than my MacBook Air and my M1 Mac Mini)
@@raikiri23 Mojave is the best for core 2 duo Macs, although the 15 and 17 inch MacBook Pro 2010 are a lot better for Catalina.
@@EvilTurkeySlices Interesting. I might give Mojave a try then
I wanna see a workout challenge on the channel over a 60 day period and everyone get involved
I bet the back of that iPad had an engraving on it and Amazon had to scrape it off lol
That’s Pam Beesly behind the camera, nobody’s gonna convince me otherwise.
man dabbed in 2022, let that sink in
they bought pc for 500$ that cant render 720p video and still getting excited for it
14:00
You are looking for "longevity" Mat😀
Wise words from Matt!
Also miss the brightness of the "old" set.
iPods had a huge downfall, but the 1st and 2nd gen will always be some of my favorite Apple products.
Lol looks like we got an little bit of an tech rewind⏪⏪
12:10 someone probably got it engraved and then when amazon refurbished it they did that to get rid of the engraving
I think we need Joana ( I bet I spelled that wrong ) on the channel more. I think she would be quite good at keeping Austin in line in certain shoots.
The ipad was probably personalized (engraved) and they etched or lasered off that area to remove it.
I can't even afford a literal apple lmao
MATT is a king
So nice of you to finally collab with Jon Tron!! Lmao
Austin always makes me laugh
The iMac is pretty good, mine was 400, but it's ssd and 16gb