Why This Capital Ship is CRUCIAL to the New Republic's Naval Strategy

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  • Опубліковано 4 вер 2023
  • So we took a close look at this newly introduced New Republic Cruiser, and we finally figured out what the purpose of it is. Despite being lightly armed and not that intimidating to look at, this reflects an extremely smart design choice and change in naval policy from the imperial and republic era. Whoever put this ship together understands the fundamental challenges that the New Republic Navy is facing.
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  • @secla_SC
    @secla_SC 9 місяців тому +529

    This is the first ship in Star Wars that has me drooling over how beautifully designed it is since I saw the Venator Class Star Destroyer for the first time.

    • @afren748
      @afren748 9 місяців тому +33

      The Venator was the goat ong

    • @persuisixh4804
      @persuisixh4804 9 місяців тому +9

      I get the feeling it’s a new mc30

    • @jackmodler1419
      @jackmodler1419 9 місяців тому +7

      its perfect down to the last minute details, but yeah its a nice MC 30 frigate

    • @persephone9084
      @persephone9084 9 місяців тому +3

      i´m still in love with the victory class and i think its more beautiful than the venator

  • @MrAranton
    @MrAranton 9 місяців тому +799

    Someone using a jedi code does not mean they are a jedi or even force sensitive. My guess is: the captain assumed someone without any ability to use the force stumbled over that old code and tried to use it in order to swindle the republic. Which (considering how rare trained force users are in that period) probably would have been correct at least 9 out of 10 times. The security detail would have been sufficient to detain any imposters pretending to be jedi.

    • @Dreamfox-df6bg
      @Dreamfox-df6bg 9 місяців тому +138

      Considering he was carrying an important prisoner, this security detail wasn't enough.
      That ship could have carried an elite team or be full of regular soldiers. It could fire any weapons, which might be hidden, it has inside his ship or, as mentioned in the video, it could even be a bomb. This could have been anything, from a prank, to someone wanting to free his prisoner to someone who wants her dead.
      He should have
      1. Ignored them and reported this encounter to fleet command
      or
      2. deploy a fighter screen and send a security detail over to check it out while keeping his distance.

    • @ttry1152
      @ttry1152 9 місяців тому +40

      ​@@Dreamfox-df6bgyeah.. and a high value one as well. An imperial warlord

    • @mrspeigel3593
      @mrspeigel3593 9 місяців тому +27

      Hes a bit of a pompous a$$ about it but he's handling it in the most logical way it's almost like hes seen this kind of bs before

    • @ttry1152
      @ttry1152 9 місяців тому +24

      @@mrspeigel3593 complacency.

    • @jeffreycarman2185
      @jeffreycarman2185 9 місяців тому +23

      Unless they were Imperial-sympathizing suicide bombers, or a shuttle sent by a pirate group with a huge ion bomb to make the ship inoperable, or any of a thousand scenarios which would make it absolutely unacceptable for a random civilian ship with ancient access codes to be allowed to dock within a warship. It’s hard to imagine a scenario where it would be OK to do what this captain did.

  • @LiliaArmoury
    @LiliaArmoury 9 місяців тому +168

    the ship feels like the kind of ship you drop into a sector to deter pirates by sending out squadrons of fighters on patrol who appear above a world with little warning from a mobile base

    • @jeffengel2607
      @jeffengel2607 9 місяців тому +24

      Yes. It also optimizes the continued use of all the fighters the Rebellion had. The total package here is one smallish new build vessel and a slew of probably existing fighters, with the bulk of the personnel carrying on jobs like they had under the Rebellion (or in some cases, the Empire).

  • @shanenolan5625
    @shanenolan5625 9 місяців тому +389

    The Mon cala may be in league with the dolphins

    • @GenerationTech
      @GenerationTech  9 місяців тому +91

      interesting tell me more

    • @collector1951
      @collector1951 9 місяців тому +33

      @@GenerationTechwould you like to know mo- oh wait wrong franchise

    • @Commander_Raveth
      @Commander_Raveth 9 місяців тому +3

      2000 leagues under the sea?

    • @ofthecaribbean
      @ofthecaribbean 9 місяців тому +9

      Suspicion alone is grounds for immediate exterminatus!

    • @Planag7
      @Planag7 9 місяців тому +5

      I don't know if you've ever played the old game echo the dolphin but let me tell you squids and dolphins have a history going back thousands of years...
      Eventually they'd evolve back in the crabs and crustacean somehow which makes no sense but best not to think about that c;
      In all seriousness that game gets very interesting is not just a little dolphin game...

  • @princeofpokemon2934
    @princeofpokemon2934 9 місяців тому +426

    This vessel reminds me of the MC30c frigate. The design looks heavily similar in appearance.

    • @GenerationTech
      @GenerationTech  9 місяців тому +109

      Good eye, the joe johnston concept art the new republic cruiser is based off of would eventually become the mc30c

    • @princeofpokemon2934
      @princeofpokemon2934 9 місяців тому +29

      @@GenerationTech it would have been nice if they brought it into the films. Every Imperial that commanded a star destroyer feared them because those ship had a heavy amount of weapons for their size. But they were lightly armored and could easily be destroyed by a single bombing run.

    • @jeffengel2607
      @jeffengel2607 9 місяців тому +10

      I figured it was Mon Calamari engineered, just modified internally to suit mostly human and near-human crews. And/or the New Republic likes curves in their ships to distinguish them from Imperial gear.

    • @Mercoras
      @Mercoras 9 місяців тому +10

      mc30c type, if it had a love child with some of the CIS capitals involved... the design isnt just good... but it has that level of overkill there. im not seeing too much on it. but this makes everything prior look bad.... even the starhawk may not be capable of keeping up. this thing is odd, but damn good, and ill go with scary. starship vs with this, and alot... we need exacts... good video on this!!! this is a lean boxer... isd 2 wouldnt stand against it, if manned to full... it looks to quick. It may have the overlapping shields, but it still seems too small... but swol??? hrmph. some of that may just be extra plating... but this is rather brutal by design. dont get me wrong... i do not think she is wasting any space.... sorry to rant, but its good and terrifying all at once.

    • @princeofpokemon2934
      @princeofpokemon2934 9 місяців тому +5

      @@jeffengel2607 early Mon Calamari capital ships that were used by the rebels could only be used by the Mon Calamari people. After the battle of Endor and when the Rebellion started to construct dedicated warships, they created those ships to be piloted by just about any species in the galaxy, like humans. Models like the MC80B and the MC90 star cruisers are two such warships.

  • @daniels7907
    @daniels7907 9 місяців тому +173

    One thing that occurs to me about New Republic demilitarization is that this would be *very* bad for major shipyard systems (Corellia, Kuat, etc.) and the Senate might have had to agree to acquiring new ships or else face a collapse of their shipbuilding industry. But, not wanting to get sucked into the expense black hole of the ISDs and MC-80's, they came up with a smaller design that would have the additional advantage of visually distinguishing the NR fleet from the Imperial fleet. Smaller, friendlier, warships.

    • @granatmof
      @granatmof 9 місяців тому +17

      Honestly when you consider the "Light freight" class of starship which are readily weaponizeable, it would really make sense for large Republic vessels to be built around a modular chassis. Strip away the armor and guns and rearrange some bulk heads na interiors space and they can be transporter cargo ships works. It may not be the most robust of war fighters, but for peacekeeping forces, you want cheap efficient systems for exerting pressure, nit overt miliary action. The more a particular frame is produced, the cheaper it is to build and maintain.

    • @blackc1479
      @blackc1479 9 місяців тому +13

      Lol "smaller friendlier warships". I can actually hear them pitching it that way.
      Agreed about the Shipyards, the NR would have had to always plan to keep them grooving along for the noted and many other reasons.
      Switching to smaller, lighter (and friendlier) ships would be a win for everyone.
      The yards get many more fast, simple builds, improving ease of construction, dock availability, plus a smaller but much steadier income stream. (Smaller paycheck everyday, vs one big one a year)
      The NR gets all the good stuff noted here and in the vid.

    • @blackc1479
      @blackc1479 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@granatmof I get where you're coming from on this, but even trying to be "demilitirized" they would have to keep a first tier response available.
      I'm kinda thinking of the whole yhevetha story arc. The folks who are going to get thrown into the blender are going to demand some kind of professional option. But the politicians are going to try to keep it as small as possible to try to stay on message. So a big fleet of small ships is a good compromise.
      Though the modular idea would be great to pitch to systems etc. They could have a standing fleet of ships that could swing between coast guard, q ship, and in downtime and emergency be turned into liberty/relief ships.
      Plus the yards would no doubt be happy to sell a "mini-refit" station to help switch modes. Always gotta upsell lol

    • @sumukhvmrsat6347
      @sumukhvmrsat6347 9 місяців тому +1

      "Smaller ,Friendlier ships " Exactly what The Chimera would need for snacks after a long break before going after Home one and nebulas and starhawks ,you know the actual breakfast , lunch and Dinner

    • @daniels7907
      @daniels7907 9 місяців тому +2

      @@sumukhvmrsat6347 - The Chimera is just an Impstar-Deuce, not some kind of amazing and special ship. Thrawn's strategic acumen is what made it formidable, not the ship itself. Even he couldn't prevent it from being trashed and carried away by Purrgils!

  • @darwinskeeper421
    @darwinskeeper421 9 місяців тому +43

    I confess the New Republic's behavior in this show and in the last season of The Mandolorian really burned my biscuits. Partly because it's such a contrast to what the Rebellion was, and partly because I have this feeling like we're barreling towards the Sequel Trilogy and that is kind of hard to take.

    • @redenginner
      @redenginner 9 місяців тому +11

      Yeah this kind of rot when theres still Imperial Warlords and heavily armed pirates running around kinda doesn’t sit well.

    • @detroitcoffeeartdetroit6502
      @detroitcoffeeartdetroit6502 9 місяців тому +6

      No matter the comments that justify it as being plausible, it wasn't until it had to be because of the premise set up in The Force Awakens. Because it really doesn't make sense in where it was left off

  • @todddonaldson7974
    @todddonaldson7974 9 місяців тому +91

    On tie fighters, my theory was that the Empire did not trust its pilots. If they had warp capable ships, then they could steal the ships. If you deploy the tie fighters, you know they will defend the Star Destroyer with their life, as it is there only trip home. Also, being a big corporation, the Empire went for quantity over quality.

    • @The_Lute777
      @The_Lute777 9 місяців тому +9

      Still didnt work considering that there are still more tie fighter pilot desertion to the rebellion than stormtrooper desertion to the rebellion

    • @brentc2411
      @brentc2411 9 місяців тому +5

      ​@Nametaken42069 well, that makes sense since the pilots can pilot ships other than tie fighters, whereas stormtroopers are shown to not be trained to pilot ships at all apparently.

    • @julkarcerum7618
      @julkarcerum7618 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@The_Lute777well that and the Stormtrooper Corps was more or less like the Fedayeen Sadam -- fanatically loyal to the Empire, but the Emperor above all, and would not surrender (mostly) let alone desert

    • @todddonaldson7974
      @todddonaldson7974 9 місяців тому +3

      @@The_Lute777 but there would be even more desertion if the ships had hyper drives

    • @tsorevitch2409
      @tsorevitch2409 8 місяців тому +3

      It's not a question of trust but a doctrine and intended use - TIE fighter is a very capable craft despite how they show in movies. Yes they do lack shields but shields are not a game changer on starfighter in SW universe - x-wing's shields can hold for 1-2 seconds under fire from a single TIE fighter. Shields do provide a better survivability but only against light flack or random shots.
      You should also consider that after end of clone wars there were no manor armed conflicts of such scale for several generations. Rebellion posed a terrorist treat and was not easy to find, but not an enemy in direct confrontation.
      99% of empire navy have never seen a single rebel and were doing patrol, peace keeping and anti-piracy activities in millions of worlds across the galaxy. In most anything more than a TIE was just an overkill and as result just wase of money for empire.
      And empire added more capable crafts as rebellion treat increased. TIEi, TIEa, TIE defender and many more. Most of them were plain better than rebel alternatives in each and any aspect

  • @luukheijstek
    @luukheijstek 9 місяців тому +148

    All these ship and fleet shots that they show in this series gives me hope of seeing a Nebula class star destroyer one day

    • @mrzirak792
      @mrzirak792 9 місяців тому +10

      Worst thing is they might copy the appearance but then it would be just as useful as disney's regular ISDs and it would be rammed by some weird shaped corvette or something💀

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions 9 місяців тому +1

      Nebulon!

    • @Eagledelta3
      @Eagledelta3 9 місяців тому +4

      The Nebula-class was cool, but I personally love the design of the Nadiri Starhawk-class Battleship. Something that's not just another Star Destroyer analog

    • @tobiaskrome1555
      @tobiaskrome1555 9 місяців тому +6

      @@DMSProduktionsNo, the nebulon is a seperate ship. The Nebula is a New republic Star destroyer (lenghtwise) from legends.

    • @Kishanth.J
      @Kishanth.J 9 місяців тому +2

      @@DMSProduktionsnope Nebula class, from legends.

  • @Tvisi_il_Dvce
    @Tvisi_il_Dvce 9 місяців тому +101

    I really like this ship design. I think it looks like the opposite of a Star Destroyer: instead of being aggressive and sharp, it's peaceful and round.

    • @raxenladevaldak1749
      @raxenladevaldak1749 9 місяців тому +12

      Circle is the friend shape

    • @witherwolf3316
      @witherwolf3316 8 місяців тому

      And in conjunction with that it has a lot of greebling on the top of the ship along the spine, drawing the faintest similarity to those seen on the sides of Imperial class Star Destroyers and the spines of Executor class Star Dreadnaughts.

  • @khosrow
    @khosrow 9 місяців тому +299

    I can totally see the New Republic going from a battle hardened military power to a limp one. Most of Europe quickly made that transformation after the end of the cold war. The military was cut down in manpower, material and training. Old personnel and leaders either adapted or were replaced. The doctrine was changed from being ready for battle to just maintaining the little force that remained, representative and policing duties.

    • @TheTrueAdept
      @TheTrueAdept 9 місяців тому +37

      The biggest reason for that is the 'End of History' memetic hazard that showed up during the '90s. In addition to that, there was no real reason (at the time) to keep Cold War-level military budgets. The thing is that military budgets tend to be economically reductive, not economically productive, especially when the Big Bad it was aimed at vanishes to the either.

    • @khosrow
      @khosrow 9 місяців тому +24

      @@TheTrueAdept I'm not saying that it was a bad policy. Just that a battle hardened military turning into a weak peace time army within a few years is nothing out of the ordinary.

    • @mattstorm360
      @mattstorm360 9 місяців тому +16

      And the enemy adapted to that policy. Instead of having a presence that anyone can point towards and say "hey we need a military", they just look fractured and stayed in hiding. Agents joined up with the New Republic acting as spies and secret recruiters as well as provide disinformation. I think one of my favorite bit of lore was when Leia was running for office it was leaked that Vader was her daddy. That basically killed her chances in office.

    • @granatmof
      @granatmof 9 місяців тому +5

      But even in Contemporary Europe it took decades of declining budgets and contentious procurement programs that resulted in no new weapon systems. It was only when a threat appeared that everyone realized how unprepared they had become. However Western Europe or NATO Europe would be more akin to system defense fleets in Star Wars. They're not really intended for global or galactic force projection, just regional projection. Europe is backed by the US much like local systems should be backed by the New Republic. The New Republic should be focused on sector security systems and equiping local systems to be able to hold off for so long before Reinforcements arrive. Essentially democratizing the military.
      And usi g the US as an example, there's numerous military bases across the US which have no military influence with local cities. Having clear distinctions that military cannot be used to enforce civilian law is a very clear step that the New Republic Lacks.

    • @iExploder
      @iExploder 9 місяців тому +2

      @@TheTrueAdeptYep. The End of History meme was all it took for centrist liberals to ignore the possibility of the fascists coming back with a vengeance.

  • @diogeneslamp8004
    @diogeneslamp8004 9 місяців тому +5

    8:10 Did you just say “For the porpoise of this war…” just after the underwater scene? I salute you.

  • @matiasyannuzzi9655
    @matiasyannuzzi9655 9 місяців тому +50

    Star Destroyers were 1600 meters in length, not 600. Still smaller by the Starhawk, but not exactly dwarfed by it.

    • @rawhidelamp
      @rawhidelamp 8 місяців тому +1

      1.5x an ISD is probably fair game to be considered dwarfed

    • @matiasyannuzzi9655
      @matiasyannuzzi9655 8 місяців тому +1

      @@rawhidelamp IDK, the term "dwarfed" sounds like it applies if the thing being dwarfed is half as big (or smaller) as the thing it's being dwarfed by.

    • @chaddavid2106
      @chaddavid2106 8 місяців тому +1

      @@matiasyannuzzi9655 an adult at 6 feet dwarfs a child of 4ft

  • @ambientlight3876
    @ambientlight3876 9 місяців тому +20

    I've always been fascinated by Star Wars spacecraft. This vessel seemed to be a much smarter choice when it comes to patrol duties. This would allow the new republic to spread out in ways the Empire couldn't imagine to do.
    That said, the Republic would still need to possess heavier hitters to help deal with rogue star destroyers. They would also need smaller patrol vessels in order to spread their peace keeping roles. Kind of like the fan made B wing patrol ship.

    • @drewf41
      @drewf41 9 місяців тому +2

      You're right, but I also think that part of the Empire's plan was 'make work'. If people are getting paid, while also being housed and fed, they're more docile.

    • @Engine33Truck
      @Engine33Truck 9 місяців тому +1

      I honestly feel like this ship could take a lone star destroyer. Not by itself, but in conjunction with its fighter compliment. The Rebel Alliance built their naval tactics around their starfighters. It was out of necessity due to their lack of capital ships, but it made them very good at taking down very large targets with well-coordinated starfighter attacks. This cruiser has multiple hangers, so probably has 3 or 4 starfighter squadrons on board. Deploy them against the star destroyer while the ship itself lays down covering fire and draws the fire of the star destroyer away from the fighters.

    • @graveyardshift6691
      @graveyardshift6691 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Engine33Truck *starts laughing hysterically*
      No.
      A VSD alone has the power to 1v1 this ship. This kind of fight is what a Star Destroyer is built for. Standing its ground and slugging it out with an equal. Making itself 'bait' won't work because this is the kind of target a VSD or even an ISD would eagerly chew up and spit out.
      Not to mention and VSD would be able to easily match the NR fighter compliment with an equal number of TIEs to screen the VSD while it goes after the 'bait' ship. An ISD would be able to almost double up on them.
      So unless this thing is bristling with enough guns that it would go against the NR's 'more peaceful friendlier' doctrine, it will NOT win in a fight against a lone Star Destroyer.
      It would actually require them to gang up on a lone Star Destroyer and at least a fourth of each of their fighter compliment would have be Y-wing bombers.
      This ship as described is the NR's version of a Quasar Light Carrier. It has no business attacking anything heavier than a heavy frigate. A category that both Victory and certainly Imperial Class Star Destroyers fall WELL outside of.

  • @CelticCubby
    @CelticCubby 9 місяців тому +11

    I definitely liked the Vesper. Something about it reminded me of both the Venator and Mon Cala ships of the Old Republic and Rebel Alliance.

  • @leon1992dk
    @leon1992dk 9 місяців тому +64

    For me I loved that moment with the arrogant captain (and all the moments that show the mentality of the new republic), as it ties in well into that "head-canon" me and some of my friends use regarding the recay of the New Republic. The eagerness of the Republic to believe that they have moved on from the war and Imperial rule, but in reality we see that the New Republic seems to be set-up to fail despite the rebellion against the Empire was succesfull. It brings a very interesting dynamic to the Star Wars world that we see new content in at the moment as the types of stories it helps facilitate. I look forward to seeing the "core" of the Rebellion to be branded warmongers and criminals by the New Republic, as they are treated as "the boy who cried wolf" too many times. Also, thanks for making your content, I truly enjoy all you put out there!

    • @jeffengel2607
      @jeffengel2607 9 місяців тому +15

      Most people in the New Republic were not rebels. They made lives under the Empire - maybe not comfortably, maybe not with enthusiasm or real loyalty, but they chose to live under it rather than rebel. Every time a former rebel goes on about Imperial threats it's a reminder that those bystanders were wrong - or they can instead believe the former rebel is an alarmist. The latter is a lot more comfortable as a mindset.

    • @damienlee1165
      @damienlee1165 9 місяців тому

      I mean, if you look at real life, the parallels are there. We jumped from one world war right to the next, swore the second one would be last, and fast forward 80 years and a shit ton of smaller proxy wars to now where we are arguably on the verge of another possible world war. We just don't have cool space ships and laser swords.

    • @daniels7907
      @daniels7907 9 місяців тому +15

      It's not even "head canon". Both in Legends and the new canon, the New Republic had a tendency towards complacency due to civilian politicians who, as you say, wanted to pretend that the wars were over and that the galaxy just wanted peace. Then there were secret Imperials among their ranks, including in the Senate. Ahsoka showcases this with the allegedly New Republic shipyards on Corellia being run by Imperial loyalists who wear NR lapel pins even as they facilitate the theft of assets. Senator Xiono seemed oddly uncurious as to why anybody would want to steal SSD hyperdrive cores when the NR is not building ships that big. If he were logical (or not getting bribed by the Imperial Remnant) then logic would lead to asking *who* needs SSD hyperdrives and *what* kind of ships do they want them for?

    • @laxcatthesleepycat2688
      @laxcatthesleepycat2688 9 місяців тому +8

      And its realistic aswell, you can ask people down here in latin america what happened after the cold war dictatorships; the responsibles are still here, they never changed and are still mostly unpunished, heck, in particular cases, even more powerful now than before

    • @daniels7907
      @daniels7907 9 місяців тому +4

      @@laxcatthesleepycat2688 - Vladimir Putin still waxes nostalgic about the USSR more than three decades after it collapsed. People don't just abandon things they believe in because they're reduced in significance. Anybody following New Republic politics knows about the demilitarization efforts underway. So the Imperial Remnant knows that so long as they don't present an obvious threat to validate the warnings of people like Leia, then the new Senate will do their best to pretend that the galaxy is at peace. Which gives the Imperials time to rearm.

  • @werewolfjedi38
    @werewolfjedi38 9 місяців тому +19

    They likely are good at being a mobile network of portable fighter space stations in a manner, they just bring in 3 or so in 3 single jump distance triangle, and the fighters can jump from any one of them, and then jump to another system, then back to a system with a carrier, safely making it a 3 jump rotating patrol that covers a dozen systems. So instead of the empire needing at least 12 SD class for mot rebel uprising sectiors, you have 3 of these doing the same amount of peace time work.

  • @tk-6967
    @tk-6967 9 місяців тому +15

    9:29 I'm not sure if the crew is as big as you are suggesting. The 2 dark jedi are said to have killed half the security detail when they exited the hangar, which suggests that there were only a couple dozen troopers on board. When you account for the fact that there were few other personnel but guards, it seems that these cruisers have very small crew sizes, probably more akin to a fairly large corvette like the CR-90s then a Nebulon cruiser.

    • @TatsumiyaLightning
      @TatsumiyaLightning 9 місяців тому +7

      In fairness, the estimated crew sizes for ships in the Star Wars universe have always been bonkers.

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 9 місяців тому +1

      @@TatsumiyaLightning True lol. But you'd think that the New Republic would have lots of droid security on board at least like in the Mandalorian if they were worried about organic crew size.

    • @papapalps2415
      @papapalps2415 5 місяців тому

      @@TatsumiyaLightning The idea that SW ships have particularly 'large' crews is such a comically funny display of why 99% of people who accuse sci-fi authors of having no sense of scale are bald faced hypocrites.

  • @ichigen511
    @ichigen511 9 місяців тому +4

    Brother your channel is killing it right now. Has been for a while. Glad you are here to enlighten us with your insights.
    FYI I'm 51 years old been a fan since I was 5 years old in 1977. Loving Star Wars right now.

  • @kenle2
    @kenle2 9 місяців тому +35

    Dude, they were being hailed by an old DIPLOMATIC shuttle with two people on board.
    With almost all of the Jedi gone (trillions of beings never having seen one or heard anything other than legends about them) the Captain made a completely rational assumption that his entire frigate's crew could handle a couple of Imperial hold-outs.
    "No one expects the Spanish Inquistion!"
    Or Dark Jedi who could take on hundreds of guys with blasters with their glowsticks.

  • @user-Jay178
    @user-Jay178 9 місяців тому +25

    It looks nice, just sucks that they never got to fight the first order and got blown up. Great video

    • @incendior
      @incendior 9 місяців тому +11

      sequel never happened

    • @nathanandsugar5252
      @nathanandsugar5252 9 місяців тому +6

      These and other vessels would still be operational after e7. They could join up with the resistance (those who didn’t give up like wimps).

    • @QuangNguyenXuan-qb1ve
      @QuangNguyenXuan-qb1ve 9 місяців тому

      true

  • @Ghostfury2004
    @Ghostfury2004 9 місяців тому +4

    The ship looks likes that missile boat in empire at war

  • @Litany_of_Fury
    @Litany_of_Fury 9 місяців тому +6

    Face on this ship has a smaller engine profile than usual. Engines are safe and so are the hangers. This ship is effective in a fight as it can focus shields in the front and focus it's real ability on the skirmish with many light craft.

  • @Cwronaga216
    @Cwronaga216 9 місяців тому +22

    The design is not only based on the old concept art but seems to be related or at least redesigned from the mc-30 missile Cruiser heavily featured in the tabletop games Star Wars Armada in which that ship was also based on the same concept art. So until they come up with a name I'm going to assume it's an mc-30

    • @redenginner
      @redenginner 9 місяців тому

      Given that Armada also has the Victory 1&2 and Gladiators I hope that we will see some of the Empires non ISD assets.

    • @mephisto8101
      @mephisto8101 9 місяців тому +2

      The MC-30 was featured before that in Star Wars: Empire at War. Armada came after that. Oh boy, that was 2006. No wonder people hardly know that.

  • @donovanporter4545
    @donovanporter4545 9 місяців тому +7

    Mon motha is basically Neville Chamberlin and we all know what happened with him

  • @Ld7snake
    @Ld7snake 9 місяців тому +2

    this is giving me a blend of Mon Cala designs from the sleek hull and engines and a star destroyers wedge on top of it that gives that psychological effect. i love it

  • @tk-6967
    @tk-6967 9 місяців тому +8

    2:15 To be fair the Rebels heavily relied on special forces to win their battles, their actual foot soldiers were crap. Most of the troops we see in action during the movies have some sort of special status among the Rebels for different reasons, whether it be the Marines in Rogue One, Alderaanian royal guards in episode 4, rebel special forces in episode 5 and the pathfinders in episode 6 and in Rogue One.
    I am surprised we are still seeing many Mon Calamari in the fleet considering that they create a home defence fleet during this period. In fact that could explain the creation of these new hybrid cruisers, because the Mon Calamari are probably busy reorganising their own star cruisers and are probably still in the early stages of designing larger vessels we see in the Sequels, so they have provided a temporary design to keep the peace.

  • @TerrenceChilds-xz3xu
    @TerrenceChilds-xz3xu 9 місяців тому +2

    Alan you have done another in-depth analysis as always thank you so much

  • @torbk
    @torbk 9 місяців тому +5

    That's the Home One. I know it currently says 1300 meters, but back in the day it was considered to be longer than a Star Destroyer, being the rebel flagship. In return of the Jedi, as the fighters and craft fly past it before it jumps to hyperspace it was demonstrably longer than any other Rebel ship in the fleet that fought at Endor. That aside, lets accept that it is 1300 meters, the new ships don't look 1/3rd, they look about 1/2. Perspective matters. That makes them about 600m.

  • @CubanWriter
    @CubanWriter 9 місяців тому +2

    "For the porpoise of this war..." LOL! I love you guys.

  • @ihaverabeez
    @ihaverabeez 9 місяців тому +1

    what I love about this new ship is that it looks like a 'democracy.' Each part has an aesthetic from a different alliance group - it looks like it's had it's fair share of compromise

  • @maevethefox5912
    @maevethefox5912 9 місяців тому +4

    I've seen a lot of sources put the Home One type at over 3km, which would size these up considerably. Though of course with Mon Cal ships the size was always kind of unique.

  • @notworthyy
    @notworthyy 9 місяців тому +1

    i really like these types of videos, where its just talking about a vehicle and its weaknesses/strengths and what it compares to

  • @heartwork86
    @heartwork86 9 місяців тому

    Lmao. Alan, that intro bit about the Mon Calamari was freakin' hilarious. And this is why I LOVE your channel.
    Keep up the great work, Master Content Creator.

  • @Vincent.Morreale
    @Vincent.Morreale 8 місяців тому

    It's a nice looking ship and LOVED it the moment I saw it!

  • @jharrisbrooks
    @jharrisbrooks 9 місяців тому

    The Piece lasers clip had me laughing so hard. Blink and you miss it but it was gold. Great video man!

  • @Kreachie
    @Kreachie 9 місяців тому +1

    8:10 “For the PORPOISE”
    I see what you did there GT.

  • @essa6315
    @essa6315 9 місяців тому

    I like the change in this channel. Funny stuff

  • @kennethferland5579
    @kennethferland5579 9 місяців тому +5

    That MonCal cruiser your comparing to is clearly the HomeOne, who's size is highly disputed with some estimates putting it 3x longer then an ISD. A size extrapolation from the windows on the new ship would be far more reliable and in my opinion will yield a length of atleast 600m.

    • @johnmarshall9604
      @johnmarshall9604 9 місяців тому +1

      Agreed, especially since it appears to dwarf the 300m long Nebulon-bs in the fleet shots we've got so far.
      Assuming Mon Cala ship designations are structured MC(number representing reactor output)(letter designation for military built ship class), and that this is a Non Cala design, I'm tempted to call this an MC60b medium cruiser until we learn more.

  • @charlesesseltine7054
    @charlesesseltine7054 9 місяців тому +1

    "For the 'porpoise' of this war...."
    I WAS DRINKING ▒▒▒▒ IT!

  • @rosscalhoun3389
    @rosscalhoun3389 9 місяців тому

    I think the rant about the Mon Calamari is my favorite thing I've ever seen on this channel.

  • @jeffreycarman2185
    @jeffreycarman2185 9 місяців тому

    5:15 I had a similar feeling, it made me think of the passenger Starliner from The Mandalorian Season 2.5

  • @tk-6967
    @tk-6967 9 місяців тому +2

    I am glad that someone you have put up some good points in favour of this cruiser. Initially I have been very much against this ship especially when I saw how ridiculously positively people were treating it, but I love the nuanced take here.

  • @charliedulin
    @charliedulin 9 місяців тому +1

    I tbought the bridge scene was too "Star Trek". Sounded and acted like Kirk "Have security meet me in the transporter room, I want to meet these people. Spock you're with me, Mr. Sulu you have the con."

  • @FireFlyMaxx
    @FireFlyMaxx 9 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for always giving us content. You always find the spaces between, and make a steady stream of well crafted thoughts. You make Millennials proud.

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions 9 місяців тому

      Millenials? MEH!

    • @FireFlyMaxx
      @FireFlyMaxx 9 місяців тому

      @@DMSProduktions I'm Gen-X, and I'd be proud if I put this much quality content out. So yeah he should be proud of his efforts.

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions 9 місяців тому

      @@FireFlyMaxx Oh for sure! Al does a GREAT job. I just HATE his shilling crap in the middle of a vid. I skip over it!

    • @FireFlyMaxx
      @FireFlyMaxx 9 місяців тому

      Shilling? You mean his adds? Yeah adds suck, but the man needs to pay his team and keep the lights on. I've done editing in the past on videos before UA-cam was a thing, and not for free. I'm still giving him credit for that and being a good business man.

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions 9 місяців тому +1

      @@FireFlyMaxx Yeah, he does a good job. Just annoyed my adblockers don't filter out inserted ads LOL!

  • @cliffjumper416
    @cliffjumper416 9 місяців тому +1

    The New Repubilc cruiser looks like the baby of a Mon Calamari cruiser and a Venator Class Star Destroyer

  • @jeffreycarman2185
    @jeffreycarman2185 9 місяців тому +1

    I’m hoping that that gap in the main hull between the main parts of the ship and the engines is a modular area for freight containers or personnel transport modules, hospital modules,or external racks for quick-deployable fighters (sort of like the Gozanti-class cruisers and the TIE racks). If that’s what these are, this medium or light cruiser could actually be the ideal ship for peace keeping and patrol.

  • @enclaveherewhyisntyourvide3089
    @enclaveherewhyisntyourvide3089 9 місяців тому +2

    Oh it's a canon version of the MC30c

  • @griferz
    @griferz 9 місяців тому

    Omg thank you someone else finally said it the moncala dude could not hold that blaster what so ever i saw it right away and it as been bothering me ever since.

  • @CamelxRavenNova2
    @CamelxRavenNova2 9 місяців тому

    That is one beautiful ship

  • @Glocky_Recoilz0sk
    @Glocky_Recoilz0sk 9 місяців тому +1

    Generation tech going to hit a Milli soon !🎉

  • @jeffreyhughes5972
    @jeffreyhughes5972 9 місяців тому +3

    Looks like it at least has 4, maybe 5 weapon turrets around the air control tower. they aren't big though, so I'd assume they were more for AA than ship-to-ship fire.

  • @Goofy_Prussian
    @Goofy_Prussian 9 місяців тому +1

    Allen when the New Republic makes some random brick fly: Starhawk!

  • @stevecards16
    @stevecards16 9 місяців тому

    "Peace Laser Beam" absolutely cracked me up

  • @alecatnight1540
    @alecatnight1540 9 місяців тому

    Always happy to see new republic moncala ship videos :) really wanna buy some armada rebel ships and paint them white

  • @captainstutter797
    @captainstutter797 9 місяців тому

    I loved spamming the mc30c in EAW FoC lol

  • @TheMitchyb61
    @TheMitchyb61 9 місяців тому

    Quality writing.

  • @themanyouwanttobe
    @themanyouwanttobe 9 місяців тому +1

    I love the anti-Tarkin doctrine at play here. Another advantage of having a focus on hangars is that it makes it easier for non-New-Republic ships to dock, which obviously didn't end well this time, but given the NR is trying to have systems set up their own defense forces, it's good to be able to bring them aboard for joint missions and negotiations.

  • @robertmiller5607
    @robertmiller5607 9 місяців тому

    Please look up the MC30 mon cal light cruiser. They carried armament typical for frigates or LT cruiser of the era. IIRC 16 turbo lasers and a modest amount of laser cannons. Plus some ordinance launchers in the front. Good shielding and average armor for a ship of its size.

  • @jameszombies7093
    @jameszombies7093 9 місяців тому

    Gr8 video

  • @theromanorder
    @theromanorder 9 місяців тому +3

    Nice video,
    But
    DAY 168 PLEASE DO MORE VIDEOS ON TACTICS AND STRUCTURES LIKE THE CIS NAVY STRUCTURE AND RANKS

  • @Rincewind75
    @Rincewind75 9 місяців тому

    1:19 "Fish out of water" LMAO!!!

  • @mynona9020
    @mynona9020 9 місяців тому

    It really reminds me more of a Mc30 than a Starhawk. But a Starhawk cameo in Ashoka would be super cool.

  • @goldfishclancy2991
    @goldfishclancy2991 9 місяців тому

    at 12:17 you can see 4 gun emplacements around the ATC tower. So it isn't entirely defenseless however anywhere else that gets attacked is going to be vulnerable.

  • @sunszenith
    @sunszenith 9 місяців тому

    You should take a look at Infinite Lagrange, the depth of space combat is something awesome

  • @kevinvoss1724
    @kevinvoss1724 9 місяців тому

    i had the exact same thoughts about the mon calamari

  • @SolarEclipseProductions
    @SolarEclipseProductions 9 місяців тому

    the comment about not seeing weapon implacements. I have to add after noticing on the fly throughs there are 4 laser battery's arround the tower after of the ship and likely other defences in that area to protect the hanger bays and control tower the forward looks to just rely on the armor plating and shielding to screen what an effective fight screen misses as looks like there is nothing on the forward section of the ship.

  • @iainballas
    @iainballas 9 місяців тому +3

    When I first saw the captain and crew, I thought this was some NR ship out on a leisurely patrol that the sith were going to raid for intel.
    When I realized it was a prisoner transfer ship, I was flabbergasted. I know it's just for plot reasons, but seeing the captain act the way he was is a total facepalm moment for me.
    He did the equivalent of stopping your prisoner van because someone in a shoddy CIA uniform was holding out their thumb, and then letting them aboard without even asking their name.

    • @lukedalton
      @lukedalton 9 місяців тому

      He also come in the hangar with a full security details fully knowing that they were fraud and ready to arrest them and interrogate them later...unfortunely they were really force wielder (an extreme rarity at the time, really there are probably a dozen of them in the entire galaxy so in all honestly the captain reaction has been pretty much normal), so while arrogant it was also prudent enoung to go there prepared and his action will be enough in all normal circumstance

  • @iycephoenixx4249
    @iycephoenixx4249 9 місяців тому

    I never knew Wedge came back, wow

  • @kageseb
    @kageseb 9 місяців тому

    From the front it reminds me of the Olympic Carrier from the Battlestar Galactica episode 33. s01e01

  • @liammackenzie9283
    @liammackenzie9283 8 місяців тому

    Reminds me of the MC-30c frigates from legends

  • @119MB
    @119MB 9 місяців тому +1

    Throwing shade on grapplers! How dare you sir!

  • @CJ-du3wm
    @CJ-du3wm 9 місяців тому +2

    this is like a better Arquitens or a mini Venator

  • @Lazywarp
    @Lazywarp 7 місяців тому +1

    Did I have a stroke or did I hear this right? "...Civic buildings underwater I mean for the porpoise of this war don't get me..." well played, well played.

  • @davidlutz2242
    @davidlutz2242 9 місяців тому

    What happened to the Mandalorians during the FIRST ORDER?
    Can you make a video?
    Love the channel.
    Thanks for all the vida

  • @gamecube6
    @gamecube6 8 місяців тому

    You were giving Morty vibes when talking about the mon Cala haha

  • @pumpkingheist1415
    @pumpkingheist1415 9 місяців тому +1

    "OMG WE'RE SO SMART WE PUT THINGS IN PLACES"
    Adeptus Mechanicus:

  • @vicberwick1934
    @vicberwick1934 9 місяців тому

    Very funny and spot on!

  • @kajn3206
    @kajn3206 9 місяців тому +2

    The ship model is nice, mainly a much better ship for the purposes of the republic, although I would prefer a hammerhead cruiser, although it seems to me that it is exactly the same role

  • @jakecook2375
    @jakecook2375 9 місяців тому

    Damn that is a versatile ship

  • @brentc2411
    @brentc2411 9 місяців тому

    It's a ship from Empire at War, might be upscaled a little.
    Also pretty sure the MC80 shown in the series was Home One. May have been its sister ship though.

  • @glennhouston5686
    @glennhouston5686 8 місяців тому

    The Han running slug scene 😂😂😂

  • @WickedPrince3D
    @WickedPrince3D 9 місяців тому +1

    The ship is pretty cool looking. Very much like a hybrid Mon Cal/Corellia design. But the big point in big ships like this is to look like you can defend the area you are in, which means visible weapons. You don't do much for the moral of systems you claim you can protect when you send huge passenger liners to visit them to show your strength.

  • @mehmeteking
    @mehmeteking 9 місяців тому +1

    "It's all fun and games until they start measuring your skull and saying your are not human enough..." Hahahahhaa...

  • @thegrandbazaar8565
    @thegrandbazaar8565 9 місяців тому

    Yeah I even noticed these discrepancies when I saw this scene and I was like this is totally not the way I would do it.

  • @alexandercain8904
    @alexandercain8904 9 місяців тому

    8:10 "For the porpoise of this war..." I see what you did there. Humanity first!!!

  • @Dennis-vh8tz
    @Dennis-vh8tz 9 місяців тому +1

    @8:10 For the _porpoise_ of this war? At 1/3 the length of an MC80, this frigate would be approximately 1/27 the volume and thus resources. Imperial ships tended to have large crews, this ship, which looks much like the Quarren made CIS vessels, may have a far smaller crew with droids performing maintenance and repair supervised by organic officers. A small capital ship like this, with a squadron of fighters and a few shuttles or light freighters, would be a great hero ship for an ensemble of characters.

    • @styledliving
      @styledliving 7 місяців тому

      1/3 the length, but this porpoise is really wide tho.

  • @lockay1
    @lockay1 9 місяців тому +1

    I didn't think about it too much but the venator is just an aircraft carier

  • @knoxdowell2718
    @knoxdowell2718 9 місяців тому

    I wanna see a version of this ship with a full interior hanger, with all the hanger ports connected on the inside in an extremely large hanger.

  • @cheesaliciousable
    @cheesaliciousable 9 місяців тому

    That looks like a barely retooled Munificent class ... only thing it's missing is the spire at the top and the brown paint

  • @alphatripduce
    @alphatripduce 9 місяців тому

    We should talk about the z95 headhunters on Lothal

  • @c.i.a.7391
    @c.i.a.7391 8 місяців тому +1

    "For the porpoise of this war", did bro just sneak in a fish joke while talking about the mon Cala?

  • @anakinpalpatine8725
    @anakinpalpatine8725 9 місяців тому

    It's an older code but it checks out

  • @alejandroelluxray5298
    @alejandroelluxray5298 9 місяців тому

    At first I though it was the MC30c cruiser (I know it's called a Frigate but at 580 meters long, it enters the cruiser classification) it would have been cool to witness one of those torpedo boats in combat as they are a nightmare to any capital ship
    Even so, I love that we are getting new ships for the NR's fleet, hopefully we can see them in proper action in the future

  • @anthonypc1
    @anthonypc1 9 місяців тому +1

    It's like a Star Trek star fleet shape design, but textured with the signature Star Wars greeblies.

  • @cyberbellum
    @cyberbellum 9 місяців тому +1

    Why is nobody talking about his "for the porpoise" joke at 8:07

  • @lunarmodule6419
    @lunarmodule6419 9 місяців тому

    Fun thx

  • @ProjectRaijin
    @ProjectRaijin 9 місяців тому

    Was not expecting a guard pulling reference in a Star Wars video 😂

  • @erickndolo7496
    @erickndolo7496 9 місяців тому

    Hey, can u do a full mechanical breakdown of "THE HYPERDRIVE"....

  • @pizaclatonddd3081
    @pizaclatonddd3081 9 місяців тому +1

    You see those compartments up top? bet you those are turbo lasers with dedicated armor slots to hide them.