Viz Media Changed Their Logo | [Mini Rant]
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Didn't think i'd make a video today, but after getting new manga in the mail and seeing some changes.. I figured i'd talk about it.
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I like the new logo but I hate when they change the spine in the middle of the series.
Exactly. It seems we have very similar feelings about it as well. Good logo, bad idea to implement it when they did..
one punch man changed on vol.13-16 with red viz then on vol.17-18 the logo did the new shonen jump looks weird all together
@@InsidiousSwede i fell like there about equal except there has to be a better way to implement it
This is so stupid why not just change it on new series...in germany they also did a change with KAZE manga but they stated that this will not affect ongoing series like the Tokyo Ghoul RE manga.
Whaaat?! Really? Where did you hear that?
Katastrophina It happened like a year ago i saw it on their fb page. They changed the size of the volumes to be the same as the TG:RE one’s and the kaze logo.
I don't use fb. And I guess they only changed the logo for new series 'cause dimension w, opm and tokyo ghoul all have the same logo on the spine.
Katastrophina Yep thats what i was saying. Pretty nice from them that they didnt change the ongoing series.
It's not the end of the world for me, but it still bothers me. I don't understand why they don't do what Vertical did and just keep the logo the same for series that already had the old logo. It seems like the easiest thing to do. My best guess as to why they're doing it wholesale is because of branding issues on store shelves; having series with different logos from the same company could be bad for rep, branding, or brand recognition. I still feel it's dumb though. For the low, low cost of just about nothing, you keep the people that buy your products happy.
Vertical really is the golden standard for manga publishers.
In regards to logos, I'd say that goes to Seven Seas and Kodansha seeing as they've never changed their logo. I do wonder if Vertical will be completely absorbed by Kodansha in the future though. It has me slightly concerned.
InsidiousSwede Guess I should get more vertical releases then since only one out the 600+ volumes I own are vertical releases. It is kind of normal since most of my manga is in french but still.
Dude, this actually kinda made me mad, but I'm gonna try and ignore it.
It'll be hard, but i'll try to ignore it as well, haha.
InsidiousSwede What I worry is for those that, like you said, are really deep into their stories like my One Piece collection might give me a headache.
I don't mind the white logo but the red one made me mad
I dont think i’ll mind for one half and the other but if i start ordering books now and they send some with the old logo and some with the new logo and they’re all mixed up, it’s going to irritate me.
I really don’t mind spine inconsistencies. Why does it really matter if the size of the volume and the content is the exact same? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
It just depends on the individual. For me, it's very irritating because I like when things match up, or are consistent.
New logo is fine looking. But this will drive me insane.... my manga wont match!!:..(
My one piece collection is already hurting from the 1st print volumes being shiny gold and not listing the arc name...
viz Media really fucked up with One Piece because we are going to have New World part 200 which just makes me mad how they didnt know the arc wasn't called the new world if you understand what I am saying lol
If Viz were gonna change it then this was likely one of the better options, it could have been a lot worse i.e Dark Horse and Berserk.
Right. It's definitely not atrocious, I actually like the new design anyways.
Lukelighter Lol, just said the same thing in my comment.
It bothers me enough that I'm contemplating selling my manga and buying the reprints.
OneOhNine dont
Expensive choice but I wholehearted vibe with you, same 🤷🏻♂️
This was two years ago hope you okay and whatever you chose
You happy with the decision
@@alfonsopayan09 I most of my manga that had that the old logo and re bought about 90% of it with the new logo.
It was a pain to do but at least I'm happy now
Honestly considering this too, from an aesthetic point of view its worth it, but if I ask my wallet, it doesn't agree... The new SJ and Viz logos do look better though, even if its a pain in the ass.
Remember the spine change back in August 05? That one was much more drastic, and I have (for instance) 17 volumes of Kenshin with the old open book+eye looking logo, and the rest of the series with the viz media rectangle logo.
Just looked around my library, this actually started last month. The first HC of FMA and the first TPB of Dead Dead Demon's Dededede Destruction already had the new logo.
Really for anyone upset, I guess be happy you're not collecting any DC collections where the spines and logos change on a whim, often multiple times across single series.
Actually, I don’t mind the change. I only really collect manga to read it and then put it in my bookshelf and say that I read it.
This means that the One Piece manga volumes has been through 3 Viz logos, that must be hard for someone who has collected the volumes since the very first printings
EXCentral I only have the black bold viz( new one) and the older white box viz media logo
FFFFFFFF i saw viz change their social media profile pics to that new logo but i didn’t assume they’d change the logo on the books too, aaaaaaaaarrrggghhhh
Yeah its bothersome, I hate it for ongoing series when it changes midway. My slight OCD starts triggering me after a certain point
It's bothers me but it's not the end of this world, I just ordered 4-5 volumes of manga beginning of this week and they are all Viz media volumes except for one kodansha so they probably might have the new spines
I think it really depends like if you started the series like 5 volumes in then it’s not that big of a deal but if your 30 volumes and look at it on your shelf then I guess it would be annoying
The characters on the spines still match and i actually like the look of the new logo. Another great vid btw :)
Trying to buy long running series is hard now because you can either buy it all with that Shonen Jump logo, the new logo (because it changed again) or track down copies with the old logo
It bothers me quite a bit even though all my collecting series aren't very deep, my biggest one being My Hero at 10 volumes, although it wiki look weird. If I have the financial capacity I might sell the volumes and buy the reprints. Have a good day man. :)
The very first new Viz manga I got I noticed the new spine... and i'm so torn. The new logo is very clean and I like it a lot, but nothing makes my blood boil more than having manga all in a series on my self and the spines don't match.
Feels like it's more to the point now.
For me personally, what was jarring was whenever they changed the logo for imprints that weren't Shonen Jump or Shonen Jump Advanced.
Like for Weekly Shonen Sunday titles (and other series that weren't part of the SJ/SJ Advanved imprint but I'm mainly referring to Weekly Shonen Sunday with this example), they used to use this image of a guy standing in a circle with a ring around it and underneath that was a word describing what type of manga you were getting into like action for instance.
Back then Viz was using that older logo where it was this eye looking over a book that had Viz written on the book before they swapped to the viz media logo everybody has been familiar with for years.
So after that first logo with the guy, they went and switched it with just a big fat V that was at an angle. Though I recall some titles released at this point still used that older Viz logo, more often than not newer editions/releases/reprints had the more recent viz logo.
So finally (for Shonen Sunday titles at least) they wound up using an S instead that had these lines coming from the back of it indicating it was going fast maybe and you can see it like that for current Shonen Sunday releases.
As for the new Viz logo, I just happened to notice that on the Fullmetal Alchemist Fullmetal Edition volume that was released in May, the Viz logo on the spine is just the word Viz like how Swede was pointing out in the video not sure how that slipped by me when I was doing a video on it.
to be honest i dont mind
The new logo looks fine. If I was being extremely picky then I'd say the previous logo looks a little neater because it is in a little box/square. The change isn't too big of a deal, but it will certainly get on my nerves a little. I like consistency. Wonder what my One Piece collection will look like once I finish it...
I was at an old book store the other day and a certian spine caught my eye. I couldn't believe it but i found the first volume of Vinland Saga.
Ive wanted it for so long since you talk about it a lot but i couldn't get it since i live in a country with literally no ways of getting manga.
It was totally by luck and i can't wait go read it.
Wher do you like ,cuz my country also doesnt have ANY manga!
DominateSyM
In Pakistan
New to collecting manga and received volume 9 of Requiem of the Rose king with the new logo .. right now volume 1 and 3 are out of stock so when they come back in, they’ll also have the new logo ugh. Up to this point, all the volumes I collected had the older logo. I wouldn’t mind too much if they kept the older logo for volumes that already had it and released newer volumes with the new logo. At least it would look a bit cleaner. BUT the fact that it’ll all be mixed depending on when the manga was printed is annoying
I haven’t been able to afford manga in so long I’m not even sure I wouldn’t noticed lol. I really like the simplicity of the new one, but changing it mid series does mess with my OCD a bit.
I just found your channel and it's very helpful. I've never been into manga(I'm a horror movie and horror books kind of guy) but I heard about the plot of Death Note and it sounded cool. And it was YouTubing Death Note that I found your review of the all-in-one edition. Found it at a store near me for around $25 so I'll pick it up and give it a shot. I'd love to learn more about manga tho so I've been watching your videos and I subscribed.
I hope I really like this style because it seems really interesting,almost like a comic book(not sure if I'm ganna get hate for saying that)
Haha, no it's fine to consider manga and comics similar because they are. Glad you're deciding to dive into the world of manga! Death Note is as good of a place to start as any, it was my first manga series as well. Since you're a horror fan, i'd also highly recommend Monster. It's more of a psychological horror series than a straight horror story, but it's phenomenal.
InsidiousSwede Thanks man,I will! I'm also ganna check out Tokyo Ghoul at some point. I watched your "10 psychological manga" and that was your #10,it seems cool.
I bought those exact same volumes yesterday and I didn't notice until I saw this video. It looked familiar so I checked some of the recent volumes I had and found its the same one on my volume 1 of the fma hardcover. It looks great on that but I am a bit mad that they chose to do this with their longtime, ongoing series. At the same time I do like the new logo, especially when its white on a colored spine. I don't love the decision but at least it isn't darkhorse.
Oh God that's so irritating 🙄 why'd they have to do that...remind me not to start any new series till the reprints are in stores or they're all gonna be mismatched!
Im already suffering from logo inconsistency with my FMA volumes since I bought them from multiple different used bookstores but I can’t believe this is going to happen to all of my other ongoing Viz manga series that I did bought new at their original price. The new logo is fine and it looks nice but like the volumes have been just so consistent that to change it mid way is going to bug me until more volumes with that logo release and it’s, I guess, “consistent” again. Thanks for informing us, Swede as my reaction wouldn’t have been as understanding if I found out at the bookstore lol.
Not the first time.. personally, I don't care if all my spines match up. What I go for is to get each volume in their original printing, so whatever the logo was at the time of its release is what I prefer. As long as that's the case, I'm totally fine with changing logos.
None of those covers will ever touch Happiness. That shit is raw artistic genius
This makes me gladly I mainly buy digital.
Regarding the Berserk spine change - The original layout was a result of Dark Horse co-publishing it with DMP, but that's no longer the case, so the DMP logo has no place on Berserk's spine. However, I think it would've been better for Dark Horse to replace the DMP logo with something else (Guts' brand perhaps?) to maintain the positioning of the remaining elements of the spine. That way, even if every volume doesn't match exactly, the newer ones would still be significantly closer to the old spine than what Dark Horse actually gave us.
at least the height of everything wasn't changed like the berserk spines. this shouldn't screw up the cohesiveness of the spines too much.
The biggest blow for my collection is them changing the spines for One Piece. I don't have all of the volumes but it'll still be a big expense to replace the 60 that I do.
Imagine getting into a new ongoing series and buying 10 or so volumes. Then you receive a mix of old and new logos at random due to certain volumes being already reprinted... I’d lose it.
There are some newer series that have been using this logo for a while (Kaguya-sama for example). I think my biggest gripe is how they used a red Viz logo on the new Promised Neverland and Food Wars volume. It really stands out and makes it feel like a mismatch in comparison to the previous volumes. Haikyu isn't too bad since it's still white. MHA isn't too bad either, but volumes with white spines will most likely get a red logo. Considering how the OPM volumes also have white spines, its logo will also be red from now on.
Considering how the spine logo is always the same as the logo on the back cover, Viz had the decency to not apply the logo change for Bleach's last two volumes (since their back cover on Amazon shows the old logo).
its annoying because what if you buy a bunch of volumes of a series, and some of them are new/have just had a reprint and have the new logo but some volumes haven't had a reprint so its still the old logo? Imagine a volume 12 having the new logo but volume 13 and 14 have the old logo and so forth. It could look messy on a shelf if that happens...i think i'd go insane lol
Normally I'd be angry too, but this actually looks like a really good transition. It looks better, and it's a subtle difference. Also, it's about something I wouldn't really pay attention to it and it doesn't drastically change the format of the spine. Now, don't even get me started on Case Closed spines. Those first 20 or so really crawl up my skin because at the top it's the Shonen Sunday symbol, but then random volumes would have the Viz media symbol at the top, and then change back to SS. I don't know why, I haven't researched if they were different prints, but it's the worst case I've come upon. Another pretty bad one is the Dark Horse reprints of Gantz. I think it's volume 4 or 5 I got and the spine was just completely different. Everything shifted up, and ugh ugh ugh. It doesn't match! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
I honestly didn't even notice until I watched this
Oh man if you haven’t seen a platinum end cover ur missing out on the whole cover thing they are BEAUTIFUL
I like the new logo, but I don't like the red variant of it.
The midway change between the old and new logos will bother me but not as much as the "sig" for Viz Signature not lining up horizontally on all volumes of such releases.
They did this in the 2000’s with Rurouni Kenshin. 17 or 18 volumes in they changed their logo from this triangle type of thing to their second logo. I like the 1st logo the best myself.
I didn’t notice until I saw this video! I immediately went to my bookshelf to check my yona of the dawn vol 12 that I bought yesterday and the viz label is different!!!! 😭 Oh well...
I don’t own a lot and haven’t had this happen to me, but this would irritate me so much.
I think it was a good change, i didnt exactly like the old logo but they should of waited for a re-print or the end of a series but at least its more fresh and modern its slick too.
I like that it doesn't say "media" anymore makes it feel a little less corporate imo.
I never noticed it until this video now I can't unsee it on my Academia volume lol
I think the new logo actually looks better
For this reason (and its cheaper), im going to wait to pick up One Piece, so that I can get 1,2,3 and the 4th Box Set (hopefully out within a year or two) so I get the same logos on all of them.
What would be retarded if that the spines start alternating with the new and old logo, that would piss me off
Yuck. I HATE when companies do this halfway through a series.
Here in Brazil the manga company Panini Mangas (the one from Italia) use a pretty simple logic when they've changed their logo: they still use the old logo (which is a squeezed logo with the "Panini Comics" logo on top) with series that begun the serialization with the old one. We have many examples that still use the old logo like Berserk and One Piece. They've made a new logo (which is more outstretched) and only series licensed later using it, like Innocent, Vagabond, Pluto, Ajin and other series.
This is pretty simple, but I think the manga publishers in the US don't care for it, because I've already saw many examples of title collections with logo changes in the middle of it.
It does bother me when it changes mid series. Back when I was buying ruroni kenshin and dragonball z they changed their logo mid series and now they changed it again for the newer manga I’ve been collecting. I now have 3 different viz media logos in my collection. I do like this new logo though.
I'd say that English printing in general is lesser in spines also when it comes to placements on things (the logo being a few millimeters off and other such stuff). That's why I switched to buying mostly Japanese manga. I think the new logo is fine, but it shouldn't've come out with already ongoing series. It's also that one more tiny incentive for people NOT to buy the physical volumes.
Thanks a lot for sharing, I'll keep that in mind :]
i own all of the german eva manga and they changed it 3 times and made the volume number colorless after 10 volumes
I just noticed that when I brought home dbs vol. 3 and thought I had a misprint copy. Definitely threw me off.
Glad I'm not the only one that was peeved about this.
Also i suggest ebay for manga, they do sets of 5 books of pretty much every series, it is really cool and really cheap it has much better delivery then amazon i ordered 5 volumes of My hero academia they came in perfect condition also alot quicker delivery
They just changed spines again and I’m pissed, how can I send you a photo so we can get this out there?
The new logo is unobtrusive, it’s growing on me. But it’s not going to work on all spines, e.g. Pluto or Tokyo Ghoul where the contrast over the spine art would be bad.
I mean I like the new Viz logo but it is annoying to see the new logo on series that are already ongoing. I am not sure if this will be on all future prints of already finished manga (i.e. Dragon Ball; Tokyo Ghoul, etc.) or if it's just for newer series.
It bothers me quite a bit (Now my Manga series won’t match cover wise and will look weird) but I’m hoping it grows on me after some time, The logo doesn’t look bad it just seems like an unnecessary change for series ongoing new ones sure but ongoing not so much
I kind of like it I've been bored with the logo for a while I like the early viz logo. New design and new age rating design
I think the logo looks better, but they could've at least finished all the series they're currently printing with their old one and start publishing new stuff with their new one.
When it came to Berserk it's because they got rid of the co-publisher, so it makes no sense to keep them on volumes as a business. But they really did ruin the look for anyone who had the previous ones. With Viz it really makes no sense to change mid series and it would be really frustrating if the changes were more drastic like the Berserk volumes. I don't think it makes a big deal since at least the volumes line up with each other and overall looks the same.
HEARTBEATofaLION yea removing the co published was logical but the misalignment of the title was stupid af.
Completely agree, I got all of them after the change so mine line up but I feel for the people who have the old volumes.
Its irritating but I'll still but the volumes regardless. The new logo doesn't look too bad tbh, it'll probably grow on me over time
I don't mind as I like the design of the new logo
The changing logos bothers me, but it started to bother me the most when I look at my hundreds of English manga volumes and then look at my almost 1000 Japanese volumes. The Japanese logos always stay the same whether its an old logo for the magazine that series was running in or even if it's been put in a totally different magazine that the series started in. So to me it's crazy that western publishers can't keep the old logo that's still their own brand while the Japanese publishers keep logos that are 10 years or older on long running series or logos from a totally different (or defunct) magazine that it was first published in that could actually cause misunderstanding's in readers who might think a series is running in one magazine but its actually changed to another.
I actually have a manga recomendation for you. After hearing that you like seinen boxing mangas i think that you should read RRR its a very interesting series and not to long.
I’m gonna have to get used to it. It’s gonna look weird on the shelf. That’s just me though.
The seething is how I felt it when Viz decided to add Signature's logo midway the Black Lagoon run..
I took business at Uni, and it’s been proven that changes in logos don’t do anything to help the company’s easy recognition. In fact it actually hurts it, especially if it’s reliant on the recognisability of its logo
Someone on Etsy should make old viz media stickers
For me, i'll hate it, then i'm like "its okay" and then i'm going to hate it again
Yo can u do a mini rant for the new shonen logo please honestly I think it sucks
The change isnt too bad (they put the logo at the same place) but its still stupid to change it mid series.
I have not bought new manga for a while, but it does bother me that they are changing the logo mid series. Especially for something like kuroko no basket which already has 12/15 2 in 1 out.
I love your vids man✌😁
Oh this bothers me so much. Im really picky about matching spines, and this might deter me from purchasing more volumes for, lets say, blue exorcist because I'm 18 volumes in with a possible set up of a final arc and I dont want mismatching spines for the last 6 or 7 volumes if it does end. Also for tokyo ghoul re. The volumes are expensive so I might sell off the volumes I own and repurchase the new spines just to have them match. Imo its okay for smaller series that are just beginning which may run a long time since they're easy to replace early on, but yeah this bothers me too much. Im glad I found a few volumes of some series that I needed to complete before the reprint (like the evangelion omnibus), thats all I can say. Thank you for making this video!
my Berserk collection is all over the place when it comes to the spines, volume 1,3,4 and 8 has DMD also written dark horse manga above then my remaining until 14 afterward i just started buying it digitally it has dark horse in the bottom. so the number placement is werid number low then high then low then high really inconsistent.
I hate when companies do this! Just keep it the same for current series, and change it for new ones. It's not that hard!
Man i always like changes. This is not a very good change, but it doesnt look bad at all. I think i will just continue buying the series like this and not sell my mangas.... Sorry for my shiity english :))
did seven seas ever change their logo? i dont recall them doing it
also i dont mind too much....though. thats usually because it is a situation i can get a better deal. old berserk volume for half of what a reprint would be with the old logo, i can deal with that. this though....yeah i can see it being an issue especially since it seems sorta pointless.....do like the new logo though
Hey swede, love your channel, what did you think of the promised neverland volume 4? I thought it was the best volume yet and it was insane.
Doesn't bother me, what kinda does is having volumes from different publishers or even languages of the same series lol, but man it bothers me too to spend extra on having everything be the same, i have that case with Berserk, where the first volume is from a spanish, long gone publisher and the rest are from a mexican publisher. I can get the first volume from the mexican one but i don't wanna pay more just for a pet peeve haha.
Currently i'm really struggling with the Sandman series, where i'm missing volume 9 of the hardcovers launched here in Mexico, but can't get it anymore unless i pay extra for it, i casn import the english soft cover from Amazon, but it's actually around the same price and well, it's in english (which i prefer but, it's different) and it's not hardcover...
I recently stopped collecting manga all together and I'm kind of glad my ocd would have killed me with this change aha.
The last two volumes of Bleach are not going to match the other 72... sigh
I don't mind the new logo and I can live with the different spines but I just don't get why they can't just keep the old logo for series that are already in print and then just add the new logo to the new series that will come out in the future...like, you gotta put some thought into your decisions. Looks like nobody at Viz is giving a shit about inconsistent spines haha
Personally i dont mind the change. I have the first 12 volumes of MHA and the new 13th and i think its too much of a minor change to bother me.
I know right!!
They own the company. They can do whatever they want. Even if they "just feel like it." This is such a tiny nitpick. if they want to update their logo then its going to have to be implimented regardless of where their book series are currently at.
I got Pokémon sun and moon vol 1 today< and it has the new designs
I like it but I’m a casual collector and only have 86 total volumes
There goes all my One Piece volumes..
most of my manga collection contains manga from viz media, so this is def upsetting ;-;
well, now im going to have to sell all of my viz manga and buy the reprints
Are we going to have a haul this month?
It sucks how they changed the logo at least it isnt a very different logo change
i like the new logo