Why slam Lancair? This is the same advice for any high performance aircraft. I built one and flew it with only 250 flight time hours. It is also an honest aircraft with plenty of gentle warnings when near the edge of something dangerous. Might as well share the same ideas about the SR-71.
I would love to fly a Lancair IV P but I am not willing to spend $15k in insurance premiums a year. I flew retractable and pressurized planes in the military for 20 years and hold an ATP.
I truly think it is unfair but they are guided by the financial facts (albeit skewed). Insurance is gonna kill everyones dream once they hit a target age no matter their hours and ratings. Unfortunately most people don't have the financial means to be an aircraft owner until later in life. We assume that is like biting the hands that would feed them. The reality is that insurance groups don't want to take on private ownership small aircraft. They want multi million dollar aircraft operations. Less planes in the air, less risk and higher profit margins.
I own one and after self insuring for 100 hours, I am now paying less than any of my cirrus friends. The first 100 ours of ownership of this plane will be bad for insurance. or the other thing you can do.
I've flown them and think they are one of, if not the best aircraft for that particular mission (economically speeking). I live an hour away from Uvalde where they were made and serviced....at least you can still get parts there. If you're looking for 150+ kn airplane Lancair is the lowest cost per knot than any other aircraft. However, no Lancair model is a low time pilot aircraft (as you eluded some might be). These are powered lawn darts and that's exactly what you will become if you don't stay ahead of them.
I've always find it hard to stay of airplanes I'm flying because I can't flap my arms that f'ing fast and the prop and windshield make it really hard to operate the controls with my giant cock.
The faster the ac the more you have to stay ahead of it. With a lancair you better know where your going to put it if you have an engine failure. Beautiful aircraft but I would take very few risks with them
Lancair IV-P is THE best GA aircraft price x knot x OPEX. you will not find anyone to get anywhere near. Its like a baby PC12. Yes the cabin is tight. Wouldn't recommend if you are over 6'ft tall. or if you weigh more than 200 lbs. The back seats are like a Sportscar. dont try and fit a full size adult back there. but someone small, and you could even go 4 pax full fuel and travel 1200 NM on 80 gallons with a 45 min fuel reserve and do this in less than 5 hours! Yes it is a sketchy plane to fly. Will bite you if you get behind ever so slightly, and when it bites its not a bite, it basically will rip your head off. The stall characteristics are awefull. Plane stalls depending on the plane but around 70-80 kts. So just dont get any slow at all and you'll be fine. I never fly mine at any speed under 110 its unless I am over the numbers. But I do get to the numbers at 110. Short app 120 and 3 mile final 130.
Most folks that can afford an 800k aircraft typically don't scoff at the insurance premiums. Like all other aircraft, purchase price is the cheapest part of ownership.
2100 kits sold , thats not flying aircraft compared to a 172 probably what most pilots fly thee are 45k 172s out there V tails have killed more then lancairs ~!
If you are going to bother makig these kinds of videos then at least research them well enough to know that the Evolution is NOT A LANCAIR PRODUCT. The Evolution is a totally different company and lately it has partnered with JMB aircraft in the Czech Republic to make planes.
The Evolution was 100% a Lancair product. Lancair developed it, and after a couple of years of producing kits, decided that they wanted to devote their entire focus to that airframe. So they sold the Lancair name, and the rights to all of the other Lancair models to someone else, and Lancair themselves continued on as Evolution Aircraft. After going Bankrupt in 2018, there hasn't been much action with Evolution, but JMB does look to be bringing them back to life. Still, this is/was a Lancair product at heart.
@@timhoward3677 Wrong! Lancair changed its name to Evolution. Lancair no longer existed. It was a completely different company and no longer made or sold Lancair kits. The company got rid of most of its facility and employees after a series of crashes that made insuring the plane impossible.
@@timhoward3677 Nope. It was an Evolution. And is still one today. Trying to say it's a Lancair is like saying Here is an example of your false logic. Cadabra, Inc. On July 5, 1994, Bezos initially incorporated the company in Washington state with the name Cadabra, Inc. Do you say you are a Cadabra Prime Member?
Nothings going to help the reputation of the “evolution“ till the company publicly reveals the problems with the immense amount of crashes. I love the design! But everyone’s concernEd. Fix the problem and then reveal the previous issues
Let me help you out since I’ve seen your comments about the Evolution on several videos and you seem a bit ignorant of the aircraft. The most recent evo crash was caused by a flap bolt which wasn’t safety wired by the paint shop after the aircraft was disassembled for paint. This caused a split flap condition and the pilot did not recognize it and put the flaps back up. Maintenance/Pilot error and not the airplanes fault. Two weeks before that one, another evo was flown through an area of heavy reported icing, which caused it to crash. Totally pilot error. Before that I can only think of one other fatal crash, and that was caused by the pilot troubleshooting an electrical issue in the pattern. He stalled it into a golf course. Once again pilot error. Two of the three aircraft above I’ve personally flown prior to the crashes. Just like the Bonanza, which earned a poorly deserved reputation of being unsafe, they are excellent, very docile aircraft. But they still demand respect. Hopefully this helps you get your facts straight.
Why slam Lancair? This is the same advice for any high performance aircraft. I built one and flew it with only 250 flight time hours. It is also an honest aircraft with plenty of gentle warnings when near the edge of something dangerous. Might as well share the same ideas about the SR-71.
Love the Lanceair product life. The Lanceair evolution is my dream machine!
JMB owns the Evolution now.
I would love to fly a Lancair IV P but I am not willing to spend $15k in insurance premiums a year. I flew retractable and pressurized planes in the military for 20 years and hold an ATP.
I truly think it is unfair but they are guided by the financial facts (albeit skewed). Insurance is gonna kill everyones dream once they hit a target age no matter their hours and ratings. Unfortunately most people don't have the financial means to be an aircraft owner until later in life. We assume that is like biting the hands that would feed them. The reality is that insurance groups don't want to take on private ownership small aircraft. They want multi million dollar aircraft operations. Less planes in the air, less risk and higher profit margins.
I own one and after self insuring for 100 hours, I am now paying less than any of my cirrus friends. The first 100 ours of ownership of this plane will be bad for insurance. or the other thing you can do.
@@YACademyDrive So you self insured for 100 hours which allowed you to get a lower rate insurance policy correct?
@@jonasbaine3538 correct. Take good LOBO training and you’d be fine!
I've flown them and think they are one of, if not the best aircraft for that particular mission (economically speeking). I live an hour away from Uvalde where they were made and serviced....at least you can still get parts there. If you're looking for 150+ kn airplane Lancair is the lowest cost per knot than any other aircraft. However, no Lancair model is a low time pilot aircraft (as you eluded some might be). These are powered lawn darts and that's exactly what you will become if you don't stay ahead of them.
What is that particular mission? Being flown by you?
I've always find it hard to stay of airplanes I'm flying because I can't flap my arms that f'ing fast and the prop and windshield make it really hard to operate the controls with my giant cock.
The faster the ac the more you have to stay ahead of it. With a lancair you better know where your going to put it if you have an engine failure. Beautiful aircraft but I would take very few risks with them
Lancair IV-P is THE best GA aircraft price x knot x OPEX. you will not find anyone to get anywhere near. Its like a baby PC12. Yes the cabin is tight. Wouldn't recommend if you are over 6'ft tall. or if you weigh more than 200 lbs. The back seats are like a Sportscar. dont try and fit a full size adult back there. but someone small, and you could even go 4 pax full fuel and travel 1200 NM on 80 gallons with a 45 min fuel reserve and do this in less than 5 hours! Yes it is a sketchy plane to fly. Will bite you if you get behind ever so slightly, and when it bites its not a bite, it basically will rip your head off. The stall characteristics are awefull. Plane stalls depending on the plane but around 70-80 kts. So just dont get any slow at all and you'll be fine. I never fly mine at any speed under 110 its unless I am over the numbers. But I do get to the numbers at 110. Short app 120 and 3 mile final 130.
A video about a plane you can only buy used now, I love lancair 4 as well but if I could get insured it would be 20k
Most folks that can afford an 800k aircraft typically don't scoff at the insurance premiums. Like all other aircraft, purchase price is the cheapest part of ownership.
A Lancair just crashed in Oshkosh an hour ago .. no survivors
Yep. "Stall is a buffet" (buff fay). Chinese? Want eggrolls with that?
Sooo many inaccuracies, hard to fit that many errors in one video
Evolution 💜
2100 kits sold , thats not flying aircraft compared to a 172 probably what most pilots fly thee are 45k 172s out there V tails have killed more then lancairs ~!
Bonanzas in general. Death machines. Not if but when…
This channel is hilarious. Child. 😂 “Lanceair” 😂 smh CHILD
Ummm.
Glide performance in a Lancair is as good as early gliders. Up to a 20:1 glide ratio. You are not going to see that in a Cessna 172
If you are going to bother makig these kinds of videos then at least research them well enough to know that the Evolution is NOT A LANCAIR PRODUCT. The Evolution is a totally different company and lately it has partnered with JMB aircraft in the Czech Republic to make planes.
The Evolution was 100% a Lancair product. Lancair developed it, and after a couple of years of producing kits, decided that they wanted to devote their entire focus to that airframe. So they sold the Lancair name, and the rights to all of the other Lancair models to someone else, and Lancair themselves continued on as Evolution Aircraft. After going Bankrupt in 2018, there hasn't been much action with Evolution, but JMB does look to be bringing them back to life. Still, this is/was a Lancair product at heart.
@@timhoward3677 Wrong! Lancair changed its name to Evolution. Lancair no longer existed. It was a completely different company and no longer made or sold Lancair kits. The company got rid of most of its facility and employees after a series of crashes that made insuring the plane impossible.
@@timhoward3677 Nope. It was an Evolution. And is still one today. Trying to say it's a Lancair is like saying Here is an example of your false logic. Cadabra, Inc.
On July 5, 1994, Bezos initially incorporated the company in Washington state with the name Cadabra, Inc. Do you say you are a Cadabra Prime Member?
Nothings going to help the reputation of the “evolution“ till the company publicly reveals the problems with the immense amount of crashes. I love the design! But everyone’s concernEd.
Fix the problem and then reveal the previous issues
I'm surious, which problems and what emmence number of crashes are you referring to?
Let me help you out since I’ve seen your comments about the Evolution on several videos and you seem a bit ignorant of the aircraft.
The most recent evo crash was caused by a flap bolt which wasn’t safety wired by the paint shop after the aircraft was disassembled for paint. This caused a split flap condition and the pilot did not recognize it and put the flaps back up. Maintenance/Pilot error and not the airplanes fault.
Two weeks before that one, another evo was flown through an area of heavy reported icing, which caused it to crash. Totally pilot error.
Before that I can only think of one other fatal crash, and that was caused by the pilot troubleshooting an electrical issue in the pattern. He stalled it into a golf course. Once again pilot error.
Two of the three aircraft above I’ve personally flown prior to the crashes. Just like the Bonanza, which earned a poorly deserved reputation of being unsafe, they are excellent, very docile aircraft. But they still demand respect.
Hopefully this helps you get your facts straight.