CORRECTIONS: 1. Your estimates on engine and exterior finishing costs are off by at least a factor of two. A quality paint job like many of the planes featured in this video can cost upwards of $50K. 2. Bill Harrelson's aircraft is an unpressurized IV, not a IV-P; Bill special-built it to set records. Prospective owners of an unmodified IV-P should not assume they can fly from CA to NY without refueling. 3. There is nothing unusual or unexpected about the approach and landing maneuvers for the IV-series aircraft. They are aerodynamically clean, which means they take longer to slow down than other GA aircraft. Prudent pilots seek type-specific training for ANY aircraft design, and most insurance companies demand such before they will underwrite a policy for a pilot transitioning to a new airframe. This is especially true for Lancair aircraft. Each Lancair is a unique, one-off, hand-built example, often with unique handling qualities that pilots new to a given aircraft are not properly trained to handle. The Lancair Owners and Builders Organization developed and implemented a specialized training program for Lancair aircraft more than a decade ago. Pilots who have sought and completed LOBO's training enjoy a far-lower accident rate, and as far as I know no LOBO-trained pilot has died in a Lancair crash. BTW, Steve Appleton had not received LOBO training, and had logged only 14 hours in his aircraft before crashing it. The flight before his crash he had experienced an engine problem which prompted a return to the departure airport. He decided to attempt another flight without ascertaining the nature of the problem. Poor decision-making will result in problems for any GA aircraft, not just Lancair aircraft.
It's one of the nicest aircraft I've ever flown. All aircraft have their little gremlins, keep ahead of the aircraft, and its a winner through and through.
It it was truly unsafe the FAA wouldn't allow it and give Lancair a hard time. Its a precision purpose built high speed airplane that demands more attention from the pilot as it will bite you at low speed. So your procedure turns and approach speeds NEED to be done correctly with speed in mind
These aircraft are designed to be used by experienced professional pilots who undoubtedly can’t necessarily afford them. So the rich inexperienced buy them, have problems and crash….
For comparison, Cessna 182 has 190 cu ft of wing area, 4P has 98 sq. ft. 4P builders rate gross weight more than the 182 also. Need to keep the air going over the wing big time. Cirrus has about same weight and a wing area of 150 sq. ft. plus a much thicker wing (slower but higher lift). Speed brakes are good to have also.
I’m a brand new pilot and I fly a lancair IVp. To me it is easy to fly but I trained in a cirrus sr22. People crash these because people crash planes….period. I’m so new I don’t even have it insured! I tend to fly it at night so I have it in the shop for a brs install
My Dad was a WWII veteran. He only had the basic SGLI policy since WWII. When passed away, at age 89, he told me son, "the trouble with life insurance is.... you have to die to collect!" True story. 😉🙂😊
@@tobberfutooagain2628 well, technically I’m worth 32 million and make close to 2 million in collected rent a year so if I’m an idiot then everyone else has an average iq below 72. Did you know Djibouti has an average iq of 59? Google race and nations by IQ!
What a ripping great A/C! Obviously need some care flying it, but what A/C doesn't need you to pay attention? Look at the CFI that crashed into the roof in MN a couple weeks back...Just saying
A fickle aircraft on approach and final. Two of them that were built in Renton,Wa. in the late 90s did not survive. One was a fatal crash in AZ. The other a stall on threshold in Ohio, which resulted in a total loss.
Too much video drama and wrongness: the decent phase uses the air "brake" only to help kill some lift when useful in decent; it has nothing to do with speed management.
The IVP requires a skilled, attentive pilot who flies it by the numbers and always maintains speed control, especially in the low speed end: the takeoff, climb and approach phases. Every configuration or airspeed change requires a corresponding change in pitch and yaw trim settings. For the average weekend warrior with too much $$$ and not enough of a grasp of their own limitations, the IVP is the kind of plane that can lure pilots into situations which are difficult to extricate one's self from. By in he hands of a supeior pilot, the pisto vesion of he IVP is a ricket tha an fly in he lower flight levels in pessurized comfort in smooth air. Nice, but ultimately just another expensive toy for men and a few women with plenty of cash to throw away on non-'essential entertainment items. .
I had to quit watching because I got so irritated at this particular video's inaccurate spec numbers and such. At one point it says Cruise speed of 219 knots and then a couple minutes later 280 knots. I'll find another video that seems more trustworthy. I enjoyed some of the comments more!
If it is dangerous, why bother to fly it. Just burn it. The FAA shouldn't have given the certification as air worthy. Please don't be a stupid fool, reject it,look fir a safe one to fly as life has no spare parts. May God bless you 🙏🙏🙏
CORRECTIONS: 1. Your estimates on engine and exterior finishing costs are off by at least a factor of two. A quality paint job like many of the planes featured in this video can cost upwards of $50K.
2. Bill Harrelson's aircraft is an unpressurized IV, not a IV-P; Bill special-built it to set records. Prospective owners of an unmodified IV-P should not assume they can fly from CA to NY without refueling.
3. There is nothing unusual or unexpected about the approach and landing maneuvers for the IV-series aircraft. They are aerodynamically clean, which means they take longer to slow down than other GA aircraft. Prudent pilots seek type-specific training for ANY aircraft design, and most insurance companies demand such before they will underwrite a policy for a pilot transitioning to a new airframe. This is especially true for Lancair aircraft. Each Lancair is a unique, one-off, hand-built example, often with unique handling qualities that pilots new to a given aircraft are not properly trained to handle. The Lancair Owners and Builders Organization developed and implemented a specialized training program for Lancair aircraft more than a decade ago. Pilots who have sought and completed LOBO's training enjoy a far-lower accident rate, and as far as I know no LOBO-trained pilot has died in a Lancair crash.
BTW, Steve Appleton had not received LOBO training, and had logged only 14 hours in his aircraft before crashing it. The flight before his crash he had experienced an engine problem which prompted a return to the departure airport. He decided to attempt another flight without ascertaining the nature of the problem. Poor decision-making will result in problems for any GA aircraft, not just Lancair aircraft.
Thanks for fixing some of this gratuitous video.
Best aircraft I have ever owned, despite any downfall. Just dont get it too slow. its not that hard!
I love this aircraft. It is definitely for pilots who are serious about getting to their destination fast and with precision.
It's one of the nicest aircraft I've ever flown. All aircraft have their little gremlins, keep ahead of the aircraft, and its a winner through and through.
It it was truly unsafe the FAA wouldn't allow it and give Lancair a hard time. Its a precision purpose built high speed airplane that demands more attention from the pilot as it will bite you at low speed. So your procedure turns and approach speeds NEED to be done correctly with speed in mind
My father actually built the 4P that’s used as the cover photo. That was his first build followed by a 4P-GT Turbo Prop.
These aircraft are designed to be used by experienced professional pilots who undoubtedly can’t necessarily afford them. So the rich inexperienced buy them, have problems and crash….
They're designed to be sold first and foremost. At $1mm+, they're not designed to be sold to pro pilots.
I loved the photo from Lancair of me turning a wrench on a Lancair ES. 😂
speed kills fast...speed brakes and slips seem to be the key in getting this beast slowed down...like any fast machine, be ahead of it at all times.
For comparison, Cessna 182 has 190 cu ft of wing area, 4P has 98 sq. ft. 4P builders rate gross weight more than the 182 also. Need to keep the air going over the wing big time. Cirrus has about same weight and a wing area of 150 sq. ft. plus a much thicker wing (slower but higher lift). Speed brakes are good to have also.
I have 200+ hrs in these and have nothing bad to say about them, however....Fy it right or it will BITE!!
Difficult to get insurance in these currently?
I want one.
I like it
I’m a brand new pilot and I fly a lancair IVp. To me it is easy to fly but I trained in a cirrus sr22. People crash these because people crash planes….period. I’m so new I don’t even have it insured! I tend to fly it at night so I have it in the shop for a brs install
My Dad was a WWII veteran. He only had the basic SGLI policy since WWII. When passed away, at age 89, he told me son, "the trouble with life insurance is.... you have to die to collect!" True story. 😉🙂😊
You are a sarcastic idiot.
@@tobberfutooagain2628 well, technically I’m worth 32 million and make close to 2 million in collected rent a year so if I’m an idiot then everyone else has an average iq below 72. Did you know Djibouti has an average iq of 59? Google race and nations by IQ!
You have a IV-P getting a BRS? Can you share where? Cost?
@@jeangingras5409 look up brs and then find your location and call. The guys n NC always pick up.
Did the LX7 solve safety concerns
yes
Yes
My father died 12 years ago in lvx243
What a ripping great A/C!
Obviously need some care flying it, but what A/C doesn't need you to pay attention?
Look at the CFI that crashed into the roof in MN a couple weeks back...Just saying
A fickle aircraft on approach and final. Two of them that were built in Renton,Wa. in the late 90s did not survive. One was a fatal crash in AZ. The other a stall on threshold in Ohio, which resulted in a total loss.
Too much video drama and wrongness: the decent phase uses the air "brake" only to help kill some lift when useful in decent; it has nothing to do with speed management.
You didn't answer the question or seem to attempt to answer the question. Should've titled it specs about the IV-P.
290 knots burning 17 gph? Really?
any aircraft can do you in if flown incorectly -- when piloting be alurt dont go to sleep at all suprising how many of you do have a cat nap???
The IVP requires a skilled, attentive pilot who flies it by the numbers and always maintains speed control, especially in the low speed end: the takeoff, climb and approach phases. Every configuration or airspeed change requires a corresponding change in pitch and yaw trim settings. For the average weekend warrior with too much $$$ and not enough of a grasp of their own limitations, the IVP is the kind of plane that can lure pilots into situations which are difficult to extricate one's self from. By in he hands of a supeior pilot, the pisto vesion of he IVP is a ricket tha an fly in he lower flight levels in pessurized comfort in smooth air. Nice, but ultimately just another expensive toy for men and a few women with plenty of cash to throw away on non-'essential entertainment items. .
All the “Bendix King” stuff you show are actually garmin products
Yes, Go Garmin. Garmin has saved my bacon more times than I can count. I am a definite Garmin fan! 🤠
I had to quit watching because I got so irritated at this particular video's inaccurate spec numbers and such. At one point it says Cruise speed of 219 knots and then a couple minutes later 280 knots. I'll find another video that seems more trustworthy. I enjoyed some of the comments more!
I think you got the engine wrong
A Lancair IV-P uses a Continental TSIO-550
Foolishness. Solid, predictable aircraft. Just like the 320/360.
If it is dangerous, why bother to fly it. Just burn it. The FAA shouldn't have given the certification as air worthy. Please don't be a stupid fool, reject it,look fir a safe one to fly as life has no spare parts. May God bless you 🙏🙏🙏
It's only dangerous if the pilot doesn't have the proper bandwidth. Mechanically a great design.
Stupid, illiterate response