There seems to be a strange inversion of right and left. Just as the left has realised the importance of the individual, the right has rediscovered the importance of the community.
How is that an inversion? That’s literally how it’s always been the right prioritises culture, nationalism and religion, the left prioritises individual rights and internationalism, been the case forever As much as the right usually characterise themselves as caring about freedom in practice all they want is homogeneity .
@@DavidHughesss It's not supposed to be an elementary school level introduction to the subjects it touches on. It's meant for people who have at least partially followed the modern thought and social developments up to a point.
Ok and market forces have NOTHING to do with the "grotesque" things happening to children these days which "we will look back on with horror" - the image she's referring to is what, parents not knowing how to take care of their children responsibly because they are so influenced by a liberal idea that you should let your kids do whatever they want? Sure there is a small grain of truth in that, but how about some material facts like people being unable to afford child care...? It's no secret that child care is very expensive everywhere today. But you need to work hard right? so you should pay for help. And should every parent be guaranteed 480 days of maternity/paternity leave as in Sweden? The inescapable pull of social media and technology does indeed seem to be a grotesque thing these days when it comes to children... but both conservatives and liberals seem to be all for "innovation" and there being a technological solution to every problem. What does the high cost of living and all-consuming technology have to do with being an "individual," or a liberal or a conservative? Oh, maybe if you were a conservative you'd be better with money and so you could afford everything
>"Ok and market forces have NOTHING to do with the "grotesque" things happening to children these days which "we will look back on with horror"" Hahaha. Keep saying that while Market Forces["Big Pharma"] keeps lobbying for pushing all these horrible surgeries on Kids just to fill their Pockets and keep funding Trans Propaganda on the Media.
Collectivists never seem to understand Individualism at all, and I say this as one who also is a Classical Liberal Conservative. She's right about kids though.
@@gregorytaylor9104 add Karl Marx, Max Horkheimer, Kimberle Crenshaw, Paulo Friere, to that list, each one created a critical theory for the purpose od turning our culture Communist. She has no idea.
@@gregorytaylor9104 Gramsci and Marcuse are as much of relevance to 2024 left as Napoleon or Francis Bacon are. They throw those names around, but have nothing to with them (nor have any of them really read them). Which is why they're in bed with big corporations, the millitary industrial complex, everybody in upper middle class, establishment press, establishment parties and so on.
Very good speech Nina: but you - ironicALLY - OMITTED power from your analysis of the individual. The people currently attacking every Western Nation-State ARE Communists (contrary to your claim) and they seek the one thing which will enable them to control others: POWER! They are not interested in the 'individual'; but only in the 'collective'. This tends to render your talk somewhat naive. You are also wrong about the 1960s "sexual revolution", which I lived through. That revolution you describe s "bad" was very "good" for me: enabling me to share life with another man for forty years: all be it at the cost of havng to stop attending any Church of England church since 1973.
"The people currently attacking every Western Nation-State ARE Communists (contrary to your claim)" Like who? The Multinational Corporations who destroy our Culture? Or Capitalist Hollywood who push sexualization of kids for ad revenue? Or is it the Big Pharma who mutilate children for Profits? All of these are Capitalist entities.
Her philosophical training seems to have gone to waste. Anyone, like her, who has some knowledge of the Young Hegelians should be better equipped to come up with a better approach to the concept of “the individual” than this damp squib, which completely misses the point of what the individual actually is - the centre and origin of all perceptions and values. “Society” is a collection of individuals. The individual is real, and collectives are an abstraction. I don’t expect most people to understand this, but Nina should have known better.
In its very self-certainty, your claim that "The individual is real, and collectives are an abstraction" is diametrically opposed to the question Nina is raising. Philosophical training since Socrates has led to asking questions of questions, not dogmatically asserting answers
What a legend
Always interesting to hear Nina speak!
Breathtakingly good.
There seems to be a strange inversion of right and left. Just as the left has realised the importance of the individual, the right has rediscovered the importance of the community.
How is that an inversion? That’s literally how it’s always been the right prioritises culture, nationalism and religion, the left prioritises individual rights and internationalism, been the case forever
As much as the right usually characterise themselves as caring about freedom in practice all they want is homogeneity
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"'liberal,' that is to say, selfish, thoughtless, and so on" i love her!
We are all suffering in our own solitude, there is no way out anyway.
Always a pleasure to hear and see Nina...whata Doll!
honesty, humility and courage in the pursuit of truth is beautiful
@@MSherifB That too. Vaya con Dios, mi amigo!
Could this be any more all over the place?
That's what thinking outside the box looks like
@@MSherifB There's thinking outside of the box and there's going on a succession of impossible-to-follow tangents.
@@DavidHughesss It's not supposed to be an elementary school level introduction to the subjects it touches on. It's meant for people who have at least partially followed the modern thought and social developments up to a point.
@@foljs5858 Bollocks. She said herself that she was winging it. And it shows.
@@DavidHughesss still totally legible
Ok and market forces have NOTHING to do with the "grotesque" things happening to children these days which "we will look back on with horror" - the image she's referring to is what, parents not knowing how to take care of their children responsibly because they are so influenced by a liberal idea that you should let your kids do whatever they want? Sure there is a small grain of truth in that, but how about some material facts like people being unable to afford child care...? It's no secret that child care is very expensive everywhere today. But you need to work hard right? so you should pay for help. And should every parent be guaranteed 480 days of maternity/paternity leave as in Sweden?
The inescapable pull of social media and technology does indeed seem to be a grotesque thing these days when it comes to children... but both conservatives and liberals seem to be all for "innovation" and there being a technological solution to every problem.
What does the high cost of living and all-consuming technology have to do with being an "individual," or a liberal or a conservative? Oh, maybe if you were a conservative you'd be better with money and so you could afford everything
>"Ok and market forces have NOTHING to do with the "grotesque" things happening to children these days which "we will look back on with horror""
Hahaha. Keep saying that while Market Forces["Big Pharma"] keeps lobbying for pushing all these horrible surgeries on Kids just to fill their Pockets and keep funding Trans Propaganda on the Media.
What nonsense
If there was an example of misunderstanding of individualism, this is it.
Collectivists never seem to understand Individualism at all, and I say this as one who also is a Classical Liberal Conservative. She's right about kids though.
And she says the left isn't communist. Were Gramsci and Marcuse simply lefty liberals?
@@gregorytaylor9104 add Karl Marx, Max Horkheimer, Kimberle Crenshaw, Paulo Friere, to that list, each one created a critical theory for the purpose od turning our culture Communist.
She has no idea.
"That's not REAL Individualism"- where else have I heard that?
@@gregorytaylor9104 Gramsci and Marcuse are as much of relevance to 2024 left as Napoleon or Francis Bacon are. They throw those names around, but have nothing to with them (nor have any of them really read them). Which is why they're in bed with big corporations, the millitary industrial complex, everybody in upper middle class, establishment press, establishment parties and so on.
Very good speech Nina: but you - ironicALLY - OMITTED power from your analysis of the individual. The people currently attacking every Western Nation-State ARE Communists (contrary to your claim) and they seek the one thing which will enable them to control others: POWER! They are not interested in the 'individual'; but only in the 'collective'. This tends to render your talk somewhat naive. You are also wrong about the 1960s "sexual revolution", which I lived through. That revolution you describe s "bad" was very "good" for me: enabling me to share life with another man for forty years: all be it at the cost of havng to stop attending any Church of England church since 1973.
"The people currently attacking every Western Nation-State ARE Communists (contrary to your claim)"
Like who?
The Multinational Corporations who destroy our Culture? Or Capitalist Hollywood who push sexualization of kids for ad revenue? Or is it the Big Pharma who mutilate children for Profits? All of these are Capitalist entities.
Her philosophical training seems to have gone to waste. Anyone, like her, who has some knowledge of the Young Hegelians should be better equipped to come up with a better approach to the concept of “the individual” than this damp squib, which completely misses the point of what the individual actually is - the centre and origin of all perceptions and values. “Society” is a collection of individuals. The individual is real, and collectives are an abstraction. I don’t expect most people to understand this, but Nina should have known better.
In its very self-certainty, your claim that "The individual is real, and collectives are an abstraction" is diametrically opposed to the question Nina is raising. Philosophical training since Socrates has led to asking questions of questions, not dogmatically asserting answers