We Ride The 2024 Kawasaki ZX-6R - Is It A Stud Or A Dud?
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- Опубліковано 30 жов 2023
- The 600 supersport class isn't dead just yet! Kawasaki has updated the Ninja ZX-6R for 2024 to keep it fresh (and somewhat relevant). Granted, the changes amount to some minor tweaks like a new look, round brake discs (instead of the petal shape), and some engine tweaks to make it burn cleaner, but with a class that's hanging on by a thread, maybe we should just be happy the 636cc Ninja is still around at all. It's still a fun bike to ride and Road Test Editor Troy Siahaan got to ride it at one of the best tracks in the Pacific Northwest - The Ridge - to see what it was all about.
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Applause to Kawasaki to keep the supersport bike alive, despite the more and more stringent emission regulations.
Hopefully we will see more sports bikes in the upcoming EICMA 2023.
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Y’all shower praise for the underwhelming and overpriced zx4rr but critique the Zx6r that offers a much better value across the board. I have yet to see a zx4rr on the road but more and more new Zx6rs around when I ride. Say what you will but people vote with their wallets.
400 cc screamers have always been niche.
Expensive for their engine size,
The new 400's are not close to the specialness of the 400's from the early 1990's.
That’s cuz they pander to those who are weak bitches and cowards who are too scared to put their big boy pants on when riding motorcycles. As you stated, real motorcycle riders voted with their wallets.
I have seen a few zx4rr but when I do I just laugh a little you know? Like why? Just go to the zx6r already lol. Zx6r was my first bike. But once you go zx10r you won't ever care to go back to 600cc bikes.
comparing a novelty product like 4r and 6r is just dumb. Many owners of zx6r even zx10r have already purchased the zx4r just cuz it's a novelty product an engineer pinnacle for today's standards plus hey no one makes 400cc i4s ig. Zx6r is being criticised cuz it actually has competition with the 650-700cc class with almost the same power. Whenever I see someone call zx4r overpriced I just can't get it, why would someone compare it for practicality etc. People definitely vote with their wallet but I don't think Kawasaki is asking for it in 4r's case. Not all models are available which are cheaper like 4r or SE so yeap they aren't targeting much sales there plus it sells well enough to get you on a waiting list.
They can't even keep the zx4 in stock. I have one on order and it's a 4 month wait and that's on the early side.
Almost everyone at the track that races in the expert class have one now. Say what you will but clearly youre not their target audience. Keep enjoying your dinosaur ass bikes. 😂
ZX-6R still my favorite 600 bike. I have the 2009 version and always love riding it in the canyons. The engine screams and overall, the bike rips.
what do you not like about GSXR600, CBR600RR, YZF-R6 ?
@@chirag4 Suzuki engine lots of vibration CBR bit too small compared to the ZX6R and Yamaha too track focused I have 2008 zx6r on my third one
Id say your 09' would equal this new one around a track or nice road
@@Bow-to-the-absurdconsidering it's such a weaker engine with similar weight specs, definitely not.
Sold mine last year and have to say it’s probably the best 600cc class bike out there
Why did you sold your zx6r?
I have multiple bikes and that just happened to be the least one I rode before I decided to sell it , but I did buy another bike after it sold
One of the most sexy bike on the market with new cbr 600RR. Beautiful.
"could Do" has a price, nice honest review. Kawasaki Rocks!
this is one hell of a bike and one of my most favourite
I love this bike! I picked up one of the last 2023 models in black in May. I could have waited for the 2024 model, but I really like the older analog tachometer and LCD gauges. I have never taken it on the track and mostly use it for daily commuting in and around NYC. After a few months I decided to throw on some helibars to make it a bit more comfy and couldn't be happier with it.
How do you like the Helibars? Did you have to drill holes to fit the controls? I only ask cause some clip-ons you have to, and others are plug and play essentially.
I got mine In May as well and I’m the same way. I prefer the tachometer over any screen. I look at enough screens working from home
@@mavricxx The Helibars are fantastic, not only in quality craftsmanship, but also in the adjustability they provide. You can angle them up/down and in/out to get the right angle and level to your liking. Oh, and no drilling necessary. It is a pretty straightforward swap. Before installing them, I would start to get sore in my back after about 30 minutes. Now I can easily go several hours without any aches. I just need to get off the bike to stretch my legs after an hour or so.
@@cmbikerjust curious where did you get them? Do you have the exact model? I’m looking to do the same thing, thanks 🙏
Hey mate …just a quick question does the helibar change the sporty look of this bike ..?? Safe Miles From India
Thanks for the video, great review.
Cool design and new bike. Nice review, thanks.
Your video was great and provided a lot of explanations about the bike. But, I have a question: Does it fit a larger tire on the rear wheel with the same rim? Thank you!
Has been 10 years or more since I was riding 600 super sports but here we are reminiscing those days...not sure if its time to pick up another or just good memories.
These bikes are so much more smooth than the old bikes, grab another 636 you won’t be disappointed best 600 ever built hands down no other 600 can touch it
good video. didn't feel like you were trying to sugar-coat it. so thanks for that.
keep it up.
I still prefer this in the middle weight class than the R7 and RS660(with only 2 cylinders).
I have an R7 and I approve this comment.
They're not in the same class,the ZX6R is in the same class of the CBR 600RR,also it used to compete with the R6 when it was still in production not the R7.
2 cylinders suck
@@wendellnovais peoples wallets say it is in the r7 class and not the cbr600rr. Kawasaki know what they're doing.
Great video!
Can't wait for this bike to launch in India.
Its essentially the same as my 05 636!
All i know is those headlights look great behind my GSXR750.
Wishing for an electric suite upgrade though its been a long time for Suzuki! Granted, even with no assists the machine is telepathic so i dont miss them.
The pedal style rotors look sooooo much better. I hate that Kawi has abandoned them.
Like Honda abandoning winglets on future models, some performance mods are only beneficial at levels of performance a road user will not reach so it's cheaper to produce the bike at slightly less spec.
I hope you can do a review on the 2024 cbr 600rr . Curious to see wat you think abt the changes handling & power. 🤔
Review a zx10...last time i wanted a bike it was a v4. I got it bc of your review. Zx10!!!!!!!
love my 2024 40th
This is a review from a track perspective. Unfortunately 90% of riders will never track it so I guess this is for 10% of the viewers.
Obviously not the right person to review this bike. He was bored from the beginning, unimpressed and not knowing what to say about the bike
Looks very nice
Hey can I come out and watch.. I have the 2020 love it.. love that track
How tall are you? Would be a good to reference what your size is when you say the bikes cramped??
what shim did you use? GRAVES? and is it placed up top between the clevis and the frame or top of shock and clevis?
Are you at The Ridge? Fun track
Cool bike!
Na dude, I will not criticize this 6R. I have this 2023 model. So much fun riding this.
This is the best middle sport bike anyone could get now.
Thanks to Kawasaki for keeping this segment alive.
Need to compare this to the new CBR 600RR. Shoot out time!
Seems like it's a great platform to build on. I love how you mentioned some of the things that could be upgraded to dial in the performance. It would be great if you could do some preliminary upgrades to see how the package that most of us would ride fares. Like seriously, who doesn't tune the ecu and get an exhaust?
Love my 2013 zx6r. Would like to get a new one but don't have the funds.
Nice bike😊
for shits and giggles i was comparing insurance rates between 4rr and the 6r. but damn, the difference on the monthly between a 400cc and a 600c bike is absurd
I was quoted at 200 for the year or 500 annually for full coverage
It’s absolutely absurd. Then people make fun of the 4rr but paying more than a car just to keep the 6r on the street lol.
@@Bmxvtec23 whats absurd is paying 9.6k + fees n tax on a 400cc
@@ryanb6614yeah, 11k otd compared to 14/15k otd plus 2/3k on insurance a year compared to 1k a year. Yeah, I’ll choose the 4rr easily.
@@Bmxvtec23 1-2k? i pay 500 lol & only 13k otd
How did you shim it?
There is actually 4 color options because there is the 40th anniversary edition livery you can get.
i like mine, got it about 7 months ago, its number 101 made . I do have alot of gripes compared to my 09 r6 and 09 cbr 600rr.
1. I'm 6ft tall with longer legs, when i put the ball of my feet on pegs and tuck my legs are above the groove on the tank, along with my neck hurting after 20min from tucking.
2. The difference between modes is very minimal, i am however thankful for the rain mode, it helped.
3. The quick shifter is not dialed in correctly, i was told you cant adjust it? but idk. i dont use it
4. The Welds on the frame are ATROCIOUS like a 2 yr old welded it. Very ugly globbed up welds
5. Windshield is basically non existent, been waiting 8 months for a new one, Zero gravity finally dropped 4 new ones
6. The NEW TFT display is ok at first, but you quickly realize its more a distraction than anything, i would happily trade for an actual needle dial
7. The APP that goes with this bike, ABSOLUTLEY USELESS on the zx6r, it was built for the zx-10. They should have just left it out on this bike. Its like going to Six Flags, and seeing all the cool rides you won't be able to get on.
8. Bike with a slip-on just seems slow. Compared to my other bikes its very slow, being a 636cc i was expecting alot more than what it's tuned for oem.
i will report back after i do my thing to make it more better and faster for me
Bro have you installed zero gravity windscreen
Great review!
Is possible to make it at least like previous model power figures if i make ecu flash and a slip on?
The revised cams may make it difficult. However, my guess is that the butt dyno won't know the difference between this gen and last once it's flashed.
It'll still be fast! Could make more if you get a full system/delete the cat, which also appears to have gotten bigger this time round.
Can you use the quickshifter without letting go of the gas or will it damage it ? Sorry but just bought this bike and never had a quick shifter before
Just the opposite, you're more likely to cause damage if you back off the throttle, it's designed to shift wide open.
Can i ride this bike after coming from duke 250?
It's a Kawii and it screams.
Good enough for me
Kawasaki just made this bike accordingly to its prize point... For people that will be doin racing on these or wants a full track bike set up theyll just go with a different ECM/ECU, electeonic package, track focus brakes and suspensions...
Can i ride this bike in city for daily purpose?
I dig the new 40th-anniversary color edition. Unfortunately it's not offered in a Non-ABS trim.
Modern ABS systems are better than you in almost every scenario that doesn't involve a rubbered in track. This isn't 2004 anymore. If you're dipping into the ABS causing it to activate, you've already fucked up your braking technique.
that color is so ugly makes the bike look outdated haha white and red is the best color for 2024
Ok... I have no clue how you drew these conclusions.
The issue with RPM: I've never felt it. The max HP is at high RPM.
If you turn KQS on, the shift is less than 20 milliseconds. There's no way a human being can feel the lag.
The TC has no issue. It works fine. No one needs a better performance, honestly.
The only thing I don’t like or understand is my 19 made 128 hp and had a higher top end then the new bikes have? The new one only makes like 112?
No throw back euro colors?
Woo! Local track. Watching moto America there was fun. I had a 06 636 and wished I took it there. I don't care for the looks of this bike. It's a shame cause kawi can make a good looking motorcycle.
Is this good for a 188 cm rider ? Thanks for the review !
So, you are 6'1" ? I would say , yes. I am 5'6" and fit a bit small on a 2023 zx6r, and my buddy is 6'3" and fits pretty good on it.
I’m 5’11 and can flat foot it. It’s pretty comfortable for me, and I have back and shoulder issues. They are practically nonexistent whilst riding my Zx6R.
I was expecting new ZX6R has autobleep.😂 What’s new? Only the Panel??
I wish they would have came out with all these upgrades in 2020
I own a triumph daytona among other bikes.
2009 triumph daytona 675
126HP, 407 pounds wet
2024 kawasaki zx-6r
127HP, 439 pounds wet
15 years and very little improvement. Electronics is about it. At least Kawasaki still makes 600's.
I love my new 2023 Z900, I originally wanted the ZX636 but didn't want to pay the extra $1500
Should’ve got the 636 it’s faster than that z900
@twizted6367 I doubt there faster mate, the z900 has more HP & more than double the torque, plus I've seen a clip or 2 of these racing and the Z900 pulls on the 636. The 636 would probably be able to corner better though having better suspension & being slightly lighter
I think if you like the sport design it is worth to pay the extra 1500.. but if you are a naked kinda guy yeah z900 is a hell of a bike
@@deant6627 bro. I love my z900 too, but you're wrong and need to stop coping. The 636 has almost 10~ more HP, 20+ on the previous years. Yes the Z900 has more torque, but it doesn't matter with a screamer.
@@twizted6367for real. Dudes just misinformed. But apples to oranges.
The benefit of resting your elbows on your knees is you don't have upper body weight on your wrists! And you can hold your throttle as light as a pen.
So u r saying this bike can't ride on street?
Euro 6 emissions arriving soon for motorcycle. Cars already Euro 7
I wish the ABS could be turned off, or at least adjust it...
KAWASAKI❤❤❤
Is new one have ride by wire system?
Nope
By the end of 2024 i am going to buy this bike with my own hard earned money
It sure is purty
Love my 2024 ZX6R, much better value than the ZX4RR and hell of a lot more fun. I will say I wish Kawasaki had added an IMU, made the Quickshifter up/down and a slipper clutch.
The ZX6R has had a slipper and assist clutch since 2005. An IMU, and auto blipper would make it more expensive, and sport bikes aren't selling nearly as well as they used to. I wonder what that new cbr600rr will cost, that has all this tech. Not saying I wouldn't like to see all this stuff, but there is a trade-off in cost.
You got to take the hand cuffs off the bike. Full exhaust system, air filter, block off plates, velocity stacks, and ecu flash with full dyno tune and its a whole another bike brother. I have a 23" will all the above listed mods putting 123 HP to the wheel here down at sea level Florida and bike rips. Linear power band that pulls hard throughout entire rpm range. (Sprint P08 Filter, graves block off plates, graves version 2 velocity stacks, graves full titanium exhaust system, and ecu flash & dyno tune by exclusive tuned). Thanks Chuck Graves for awesome aftermarket mods!
The 24 will never make the power of your 23 courtesy of the new cams. It was ruined the same way the third gen 'Busa was ruined by changing the cam profiles to pass Euro emissions.
@jokacz123 i agree, that's exactly why I didn't wait for the 24". That tft display is kind of nice though
@@matthewchevres4970that’s the only reason I’m buying the 24
To be clear, the Ducati V2 is limited at 75% throttle…so yeah, the ZX6R is yet another same old same old, with new graphics.
Initially I was a bit annoyed after watching this video, however as an owner of this bike. I do sort of get where he's coming from after my first ride with it, having owned a 2015 ZX6R. It's still a good bike but with some small tweaks it could be next level.
Same old stuff,R&D paid for years ago but double the price?
Good luck with that
"Reshaped camshafts enhance mid-range power of the engine"
Interpretation: peak power is down, emissions standards are hampering high RPM small displacement engines, and Euro5 compliance forced us.
I guarantee you put this 2024 against any 2006 ZX-6R (636) and fully un-cork, full race exhaust (track use only), and ECU flash and the 2006 engine is going to have noticeably more power.
I'm seeing a trend in the last decade where throttle bodies are getting smaller, catalytic converters are getting bigger and more numerous, cam profiles are getting more mild, and in general bikes are getting heavier. In order for manufacturers to keep the perception of value or "new" going, they keep festooning more and more electronics, controls, technology on bikes which may.... or may not change performance numbers in a good way.
Things aren't really that much better, in spite more silicon chips, wires, computers, fancy displays. But the good thing, the same motorcycles costs about DOUBLE what they used to. 🤪 I bought a new 2006 ZX-6R back in the day out the door for less than $8400, all taxes and fees included. And no, salary has NOT kept up with the cost of goods.
Who's going to "regulate" CARB and EPA? Who stops them from turning into monsters?
@@delusion2987 While 1L superbikes have gained about 30 horsepower in 20 years, it's been at the cost of mid-range thrust. There is scientific limits to how much power a given cylinder can create, short of forced-induction. The trend is more horsepower! which means you simply take the horsepower formula and add more RPM to it. In order to do that, you have to shorten the stroke (reduce piston acceleration). You have to make throttle bodies bigger to flow more air at 15,000 RPM. To do that, you reduce intake velocities at mid-rpm which reduces mid-range torque. And so on and so on.
All in all, the current superbikes cost double, don't actually make power (until you spend another 4 grand uncorking them, throwing away a grand worth of expensive compliance parts), and don't feel as exciting, raw, risky, nor do they sound it (try Hoover vacuum).
I know about inflation. I know about it every time I buy food or pump gas or buy socks.
I also know how inflation works. It's the Federal Reserve printing money, Congress spending it, and the people having their services more and more compromised for less and less compensation, not to mention their children's childrens' children footing the bill. While currency no longer has anything backing it when gold was removed in the early 70's, oil production isn't backing it either as much of that has been shut down. Currency is growing worthless. Look at a dozen historical charts. In the last 3 years Congress has doubled the debt which took the last 215 years to create.
@@delusion2987 I'm aware. Honestly just didn't want to make a mile long comment. Haha
$11,300…I bought a brand new R6 in 2015 for only $1000 less. Everything is overpriced now. These days when there are new liter class superbikes priced in the $25-40k range, this isn’t bad at all. I’d gladly pay that for a new 600.
Love it!!!!
I started riding 6 years ago. Imo 600 is the best class to ride.
That cement wall doesn’t look very fun
Honestly this will be my first zx6r don't know why throwing shit
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Completely wrong info on the ‘24 it’s the exact same bike as the ‘19-‘23 just the dash and fairing design on the front are different. The engine is the same exact engine I’ve already researched this. Exhaust is exactly the same.
Makes the same power and torque even after flashing..
I love the fact that Kawasaki is still making a 600ish supersport. The reast are dead in the water. One thing that i will never understand is riding modes for a 600. How useless is that function!? My GSXR600 has 2 modes and i think it is absolutely useless. 600's dont need modes: if its raining dont rev it out, if you want to go fast rev it out. Really doesnt make much sense to me.
Bikes intended for racing have always had two modes to be used in conjunction with TC (traction control), with one devoted to rain mode, since about 2003, and those systems eventually trickled down to production race bikes. The rain mode doesn't remove horsepower but rather limits the rate of acceleration of the engine, and so the traction control system doesn't have to be used so heavily or suddenly. While 120-130 hp doesn't sound like a lot compared to modern super bikes, on a dry track 600cc bikes do light up their TC, and in the rain they're just a handful.
However, I cannot see riding modes being used without TC; you wouldn't be able to effectively use rain mode without TC. The only thing you'd have is a longer throttle throw.
TC-equipped bikes tower over their non-TC brethren in race conditions, by the way, and curiously British supersports bans TC from competition even in the rain.
It's a good thing to have for the riders that aren't as skilled as you, especially when the roads are wet. If other brands offer rider aids I'm sure Kawasaki will also offer it to remain competitive
@@ehiggins7476 very valid point. Never really took the new rider into consideration
I consider myself an experienced rider riding since circa 1989 age 15 and I welcome the modes. I currently have an R7 which does not have a need for them but I feel a 600 does. The Zx-6R is the only 600 I would consider over a R7 for the road because of the extra torque over the other 600. Watching this space...
My duke 390 2024 has TC launch control, 3 riding mods, cornering abs, cruse control, super moto ABS z qucik shifter, slip assist clutch, 5 click adjustbale folks, adjustbale rear suspension, blutooth connectivity, navigation etc and it costs 4400$ here.😂😂
If ur a race guy addict go with 1000s
But if u just want to go point a to point b and love the inline 4 sound n still be cool on a race bike look a like.its good enough
Some use it for stunt
Theres different market for 6rS
Every time you up shift you should say bismallah or barochat aleem
Honda really needs to import their latest 600 into the USA. 😑
I bought first 600 ninja in 85 have owned 3 zx r 6's after that let me say this not one is a dud. kawasaki has not made a dud sport bike ever that I know of. if so enlighten me which year and model was not as good or better than the competition. Fact is all 4 of the big 4 have been neck and neck since 1980s
Stud
a dud, it is still basically the same bike as the zx6 from 2009, but then with bigger displacement and then with new fairing.
but can i get away from the fuzz
Horas!
You really don’t need to shorten Traction Control 😒 just say the words
Why would people pay 1000$ for ABS
All i heard is, criticise criticise and criticise 😂🤦♂️
Nice bike.lacking any power tho
430 lbs wet for the non-abs model, 4 lbs heavier than 2023, and 3 lbs heavier than a bmw s1000rr with 40% more power. Similar weight increase in the cbr600rr. No wonder this class is dying. It's becoming less of a real supersport and more a super uncomfortable, heavy, supersport lookalike.
Please compare Msi asus and gigabyte, lg gaming monitors.....all models
This review was the most confusing one
You clearly didn't want to review this bike. Why not let someone that actually likes it talk about it?
No damper 😢2024
Same price as the ZX-4R inline 400 haha who prices this crap.
I remember the glory days of Japanese motorcycles. These are not them. If I ever buy another Japanese bike it will be an old one. I wonder if every old bastard said this at some point of their motorcycling career.
Have a 2023 and engine is blown
Considering Honda announced the 2024 CBR600RR… this video did not age well.
Too little too late. A Triumph Street Triple 765RS is better in every way
Junk, good luck getting parts for your British turd.
Triumph is ugly.. doesn’t sound good as a 4 cil
too aggressive
The street triples are the ugliest bikes created
2024 Kawasaki 400rr is faster and better