UPDATE! Shadow Systems CR920X Issues and Fixes

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  • @Zenithman49
    @Zenithman49 5 місяців тому +10

    I just sent my SS 920X back to SS for the third time. Same issues were repeated slide locks every other round. Repeated failure to feed rounds into the barrel resulting in premature slide lock. Also had multiple failures to eject spent round. Sometimes I’d get a failure to feed and eject at the same time. I did notice that when premature slide lock occurred, the round that did not feed had a slight leaning to the left, just as Justin Opinion found in his video of the gun. I only used new factory ammo of different brands and still had multiple premature slide locks. The first time I sent it back to SS, they replaced the barrel which did not fix my issues. The second time I sent it back, SS replaced the barrel and slide. After firing two hundred rounds of new factory ammo, the pressure slide locks, failures to feed and eject continued, but now I got multiple failures to fire due to light primer strikes. It would take 2 or 3 strikes before the round would fire. I also noticed that after each premature slide lock/failure to feeds, I would disassemble the gun and observed the recoil spring had come off the barrel seating notch and was off center. I would then reposition the recoil spring into the barrel notch properly center, reassemble the gun, shoot, after a couple rounds I’d get premature slide lock, disassemble the gun again and notice the recoil spring out of position and leaning far to the right of the slide. This happened repeatedly where the recoil spring came off the barrel notch and out of position after firing. I sent numerous photos to SS showing the recoil spring out of position. My FFL has just returned the gun to SS for the third time and I have asked for a refund, new gun or a credit towards the purchase of a new SS pistol, as I have lost all confidence in the SS 920X to defend my life. Hope my experiences help solve these serious issues.

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  5 місяців тому

      Wow. Three times! I’ve noticed that my recoil spring / guide rod also fell out of alignment when I disassembled it. Wondering if that might be a reason. Thanks for watching and the comments.

    • @charlz6
      @charlz6 3 місяці тому

      Same thing happened to me. 1st time barrel was changed. 2nd time the slide lock lever. Now its going back a third time. Locks up every other round. Was yours fixed and what was it?? If i hold down the slide lock lever it runs fine. Spring seems weak

    • @Drixels269
      @Drixels269 3 місяці тому

      I’ve just bought my SS CRX920 Foundation series🤔.I’m going to range tomorrow 😅

    • @MrRjezonie
      @MrRjezonie 3 місяці тому

      My front sight literally just fell off and now missing on my CR920x. Also having feeding issues, extraction, what is going on with this gun???!! I WANT A REFUND!!! Gun is just over 2 wks old. BUYER BEWARE. Should have bought a Glock

  • @TheRichieBen
    @TheRichieBen 3 місяці тому +1

    I’m having the same exact experience you are having with the slide locking when there are still rounds in the magazine. Also past the break in period is when the issues started for me. I’m not happy paying for a pistol that cost over $900 and having to deal with this. I’m not even going to call customer service. I’m just going to trade it in for something that’s more reliable. I really wanted to like my CR920. Thanks for the video.

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  3 місяці тому +2

      Yep. You, me, and seemingly everyone else watching these videos. Sorry to hear that.

  • @billmilam4457
    @billmilam4457 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for your efforts in helping to rectify this issue. I'm sure I can speak for all of us out here in UA-cam land how much we appreciate your help. 😉

  • @OBZ74
    @OBZ74 2 місяці тому

    I almost purchased one until I saw your review. I had an issue with the SA Prodigy and I got rid of it. Thank you 🙏🏻

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  2 місяці тому

      That honestly means a lot. I hate to do negative "recommendations" but this was an exception. I will say I have had 0 issues with the CR920. Very happy with that, I got the War Poet Edition. I was not happy at first and now (one broken in) very happy. Or just do a Glock 43X. Again, thanks for the comment.

  • @williamreiley3
    @williamreiley3 5 місяців тому +4

    I purchased the CR920X on July 4th. First 200 rounds were flawless and I loved everything about it. The next 100 were horrific. Premature slide lock between 1 and 10 times per magazine. SS sent me a replacement slide lock lever and this did not fix the issue. I sent the gun in and they sent it back after replacing the slide lock lever and trigger assembly. They said they fired 50 rounds through it flawlessly. I got premature slide lock on the first and third round of the first magazine after it was "fixed". I tried one handed, both hands, other people shooting it and the issue was the same. I gave up and traded it in for a G43x. I really wanted to love the gun but, as nice as SS customer service was, they did not fix the issue. The only issue I had with the gun was premature slide lock. Not sure if this is a proprietary mag issue or what. But SS did not fix the issue and I just gave up.

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  4 місяці тому +2

      Yes, you cant beat a glock. I am thinking about doing the same. Others have comments on the same problem and have sent them into SS. They seem happy. I just got my CR920X back from SS. I ran 350 rounds though it with zero issues. I had two jams after the 350 mark. could have been me, it was hot and my hands were sweaty. also the barrel and slider were very hot. I ran it like a torture test. Cutting a videos of that right now. should be out in a week. I am cautiously optimistic.

    • @williamreiley3
      @williamreiley3 4 місяці тому

      @@therightgun I’m worried I gave up too quickly but I’ve now gotten to the point where my 43x has everything the CR920X had and it just runs like a champion. Best of luck with your CR920X. I hope it continues to run like my first 200 rounds through it!

    • @Fideon
      @Fideon 4 місяці тому

      ​@@therightgunthanks for the update! Sad to hear you're still having issues. Thinking of also going 43x plus PSA or SA mags whatever it likes best

  • @algrosskurth7994
    @algrosskurth7994 4 місяці тому +2

    Was having a failure to feed rate at about 30%. Tried both 115 grain and 124 grain bullets with brass. Customer service was great - sent in the weapon and had a barrel replaced and slide lock replaced. Had the gun at the range last night put 50 rounds through it with no issues two hand grip. Will verify over the next weeks

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  4 місяці тому +2

      Good to hear. SS replaced my slide stop lever. Others have comments on the same problem and have sent them into SS. They seem happy. I just got my CR920X back from SS. I ran 350 rounds though it with zero issues. I had two jams after the 350 mark. could have been me, it was hot and my hands were sweaty. also the barrel and slider were very hot. I ran it like a torture test. Cutting a videos of that right now. should be out in a week. I am cautiously optimistic.

    • @dylanchristophel1918
      @dylanchristophel1918 Місяць тому

      Let me know how it’s going. I just got one and am having trouble with the slide locking back on full mags

    • @algrosskurth7994
      @algrosskurth7994 Місяць тому

      @@dylanchristophel1918 I have not had one issue since the warranty repair. I’ve put 250 rounds or more through the weapon since then with a mix of multiple weights. 115, 124 and 147 all good. All have been ball at the indoor range.

  • @frenzy2223
    @frenzy2223 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for these videos, I was about to pick one of these up, but I think I’ll hold off.

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  3 місяці тому

      You are welcome. I want to love this gun so bad but it just keeps letting me down. Thanks for watching and let us know if you "pull the trigger on a SS.

  • @GlennJohnson-l7k
    @GlennJohnson-l7k 4 місяці тому +2

    I see a lot of people with similar stories . Has anyone’s issue been resolved by Shadow systems yet ? Or recieved an explanation of the problem? I too have had problems and sent back twice so far . Waiting on the return now .

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  4 місяці тому +3

      Yes, others have comments on the same problem and have sent them into SS. They seem happy. I just got my CR920X back from SS. I ran 350 rounds though it with zero issues. I had two jams after the 350 mark. could have been me, it was hot and my hands were sweaty. also the barrel and slider were very hot. I ran it like a torture test. Cutting a videos of that right now. should be out in a week. I am cautiously optimistic.

  • @toddtzm
    @toddtzm 5 місяців тому

    I have an XR920P. One of the first off the assembly lines in March. Had some initial issues with the comp. Sent it back to Shadow and they repaired it and made some changes to the assembly line. I sent it back by USPS. No problems! I did not go to my FFL. I am not scared to ship without a FFl after Shadow said it was fine and sent a return label. I have since shot over 7000 rounds in nightly COF's. Pushing it to extremes, from Bill Drills to CQE's shooting on the move, steel, etc.....Runs perfectly! I only use Speer Lawman TMJ 124's to cut down on lead exposure.
    Now I have the new CR920XP. As like the XR I had initial stove pipe issues mostly due to the break in period but also the Speer are underpowered a bit.Didn't have any issues during this time with 147gr or EDC HST. After 150 rounds, back home, cleaned it and couple days later another 150 rounds. Zero problems with the 124's. Now over 500 rounds and zero issues. Very happy with the CR920XP, which is essentially the same as the X but with the comp. Just came out 10 days ago.
    Shadow is know for tight tolerances with new guns. If you can't accept that and deal with the break in period buy something else. For me, it is light years ahead of stock Glocks. My XR blows away my G45 with Ramjet. It only needed an optic unlike Glock that is plain vanilla.
    This all being said it is quite possible you just have a defective one and for whatever reason may need a replacement, assuming the user and ammo is ruled out causing the issues. The CR(x) is new. Issues can happen in any new design. I accept that when buying a new product.
    In my experience thus far, Shadow Systems has excellent customer service. Hope your issues get resolved to your satisfaction.

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  4 місяці тому

      I was hesitant, wont lie, but everything was fine! thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!

    • @toddtzm
      @toddtzm 4 місяці тому

      @@therightgun Good to hear. As an update to my CR920XP I started getting a couple of premature slide locks. This never happens on my XR920P. I noticed how my thumb rest between the two guns and it’s definitely very close on the CR versus the XR. Taking both apart the slide lock lever is much looser on the CR than the XR. Contacted shadow and they asked me to send it in. Did so using their return FedEx next day label. It was there for two days and they already sent it back. Should have it first of the week and see how it goes. I know of others who had this problem, sent it back to shadow and it was fixed so I’m hoping the same for you and I. Looking forward to your video and my results next week.

  • @yarivland
    @yarivland 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for the detailed video and review, please let me know when your after fix video will be released, i wonder what was the fix which solved all of these issues

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  4 місяці тому +1

      Will be dropping a video soon. Life has been getting in the way… have it filmed but lack time to edit :^(

  • @johnm5131
    @johnm5131 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for keeping the company honest. I have the MR920 and it runs perfectly, but I think the mags on that pistol are different from the CR.

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  4 місяці тому

      Been looking at the MR920, it looks super cool, but think I will hold off for a while. kinda got a sour taste from SS.

    • @dylanchristophel1918
      @dylanchristophel1918 Місяць тому

      @@therightgunI have an Mr and CR. I’m having the slide locking problem with my CR but I haven’t even had a single malfunction with my mr920

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  Місяць тому

      @@dylanchristophel1918 The issues seem to be with the CR. Dont know why. Watch your hands and ensure you are not riding high on the gun. If you call SS they will ask you about that. I (as you watched) videoed myself. That way they had to take it back. Good luck man!

    • @michaelpiliero9755
      @michaelpiliero9755 25 днів тому

      Sorry for your problems, I have a DR, MR, & CR. Not had one issue with any, even running suppressors.

  • @tonymarinelli7304
    @tonymarinelli7304 5 місяців тому +5

    The issue I have is spending $800 for a pistol then I gotta go spend another $150-$200 to break it in with ammo possibly including my defense ammo to see if that will run in it. I’ve been seeing too many issues with this brand to spend that kind of money.

    • @BigGoat313
      @BigGoat313 5 місяців тому +2

      A lot of people will say “Every gun needs a break in period” well companies like Glock, Springfield, Smith & Wesson all run great out of the box.

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  4 місяці тому +2

      Brother i am with you! Not ecstatic with my purchase.

    • @BigGoat313
      @BigGoat313 4 місяці тому +1

      @@therightgun You saved me money with this video. Thanks man.

    • @andybars8672
      @andybars8672 4 місяці тому

      Any edc you should shoot at least 100 rounds of whatever you are going to carry through it Glock has had many issues as it’s a huge company simply google Glock failure etc. all manufacturers of ALL items have what’s call “lemons” where you get a bad one google lemon laws. It happens it’s how they fix the issue at hand. I have six ss pistols and most didn’t need any real break in and all work flawlessly round count ranges obviously In each but my cr920p my cr920 elite my mr920 elite all have well over 3k rounds each. The others the xrp mrp and normal dr have roughly 1k rounds each without any issues outside maybe a few of the very first msg or two. Also noted I was using Winchester white box and did get a few light strikes that ammo is cheap and does that even with Glocks that’s a fact. Give them a shot to fix their mistake and once you get things perfected telling you now it’s the best out the box striker fired for the money imo. I love Glocks big FN guy for the record objectively these are great pistols I understand people have had issues be patient let them fix them. They are still new considering Glock is what 40 years old. They started I believe in 2016 and didn’t start really making firearms until closer to 2018 that’s a very short time.

    • @DavisInDuval
      @DavisInDuval 3 місяці тому +2

      They have tighter tolerances than Glocks, that’s why but I hear you. I have 5 SS guns and they’re all working fine.

  • @ricknuhfer5908
    @ricknuhfer5908 5 місяців тому +1

    Mine is away at customer service right now for the lock back problem. Mine started doing it after the first 150 rounds and got worse as I surpassed 200. Happened w 4 different mags.

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  5 місяців тому

      Again. Sorry to hear that. Thanks for sharing. Would love to know when you get it back and what the turnaround time was. Thanks.

    • @TomJay-w6h
      @TomJay-w6h 5 місяців тому

      I recently purchased the CR 920 last month. I loved the ergonomics and the way it shot ball ammo. Then I started trying various types of hollowpoint ammunition after the 200 round break in. At this point it started having failure to feed issues. I wish I could say i had a good experience with the same people. I sent my gun in for them to evaluate. Then they sent it back to me, saying nothing was wrong with it. The gun would chamber hollow points less than 50% of the time. After speaking to some gunsmiths, I wound up polishing the feed ramp. This cleared up all of my failure to feed problems with hollow points. I love the gun just wish it worked the way it should have when I bought it new.

    • @ricknuhfer5908
      @ricknuhfer5908 5 місяців тому

      @@TomJay-w6h mine wasn’t hanging up on the ramp…was in the locked back position.

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  5 місяців тому +1

      @@TomJay-w6h nice input. Thanks man.

  • @misaelnegron7264
    @misaelnegron7264 4 місяці тому +1

    Is this a flaw on the gun after a certain production date?

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  4 місяці тому +1

      Likely the reverse. This is a new line. Flaws seem to be early. My SN is 800 something.

  • @gibanez1
    @gibanez1 3 місяці тому

    I just tested my cr920xp and had failures to eject every other round and I shot over 400 rounds. It is getting a little better, but at least a failure to eject in every magazine.

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  3 місяці тому

      Dude. I have no doubt. I really feel for you. I hope my new SS videos help out.

  • @KD-lb9bg
    @KD-lb9bg 4 місяці тому

    Your video and others like it just saved me from wasting my money on a SS pistol. I'll stick with my 43X MOS and P365's, thanks.

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks man. I just wanna help! Thanks for the comment.

  • @armyvet7997
    @armyvet7997 5 місяців тому

    I initially had the lockback problem shooting one handed within the first 300rounds. Not had the problem since. I am 1000 rounds in and have not had any issues at all. It’s running great

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  5 місяців тому

      Nice! Glad it is working! Thanks for the update! Go Army! Beat Navy! Hope you like, subscribe, and share.

  • @austinmc62
    @austinmc62 5 місяців тому

    I'm having mine not lock back. My grip on their tiny slide lock/release. No problem with one hand shooting or if I really concentrate on two hand grip,

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  5 місяців тому

      Good to know. I’m having (along with a lot of others who have commented) the opposite issue. Slide locks open with a full mag even with one handed shooting.

  • @kameronbeveridge4029
    @kameronbeveridge4029 4 місяці тому

    Recently picked up a CR920 (right before the X launched lol)
    Had 8 premature slide locks in the first 250 rounds, with 2 or 3 of those occurring after the 200rd mark. Want to put another 100-200 rounds through it before I send it in. The spring tension on the slide catch does feel pretty light…

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  4 місяці тому

      Ugh! I pains me to hear these stories! Sorry man. The turnaround time at SS was pretty good.

  • @sakridsky
    @sakridsky 4 місяці тому +1

    I would be very interested in another video after you send in your CR920X and get it back.

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  4 місяці тому

      Doing that now. Check out my shorts. I posted one a few days ago. Still jamming.

  • @leesamuelson
    @leesamuelson 5 місяців тому

    so far I have around 300 to 350 rounds through mine and no failures at all except last round lock back at times, that is my fault. Every gun I own I have issues riding the slide lock as I have big hands. even full sized guns. I actually have to focus keeping my right thumb resting more on my support hand or it rides the slide. Anyway so far mine has been running very nice. hopefully it stays that way. Would be interesting to see what Shadow systems diagnose the issue to be on these random slide locks with rounds still in mag.

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  5 місяців тому

      Thanks for the comment. Glad to hear you got a good one. I will be reporting back once mine gets looked at and returned.

  • @pollock56th
    @pollock56th 5 місяців тому

    No issues with my CR920 running federal hst 124. i Try to go through my carry ammo 2 times a year.

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  5 місяців тому

      Yep, same here. The 920, great with huger grain hollow points and SD ammo.

  • @drusso63050
    @drusso63050 2 місяці тому

    CR920 mag release-anybody have a problem because the release is almost impossible t push to release the mag.
    I simply can’t get a mag to release unless I use my thumb and forefinger on my strong hand.
    It’s both mags , full or empty. Sent back to SS and they found nothing to report.
    I don’t think you should have to use some bizarre hand jive to do a simple mag change
    Dave

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  2 місяці тому

      Sorry to hear that, the mag release was the only reliable function on my CR920X, on and the Jamming feature. It jammed reliably.

  • @hollow6178
    @hollow6178 4 місяці тому

    Only had premature lock back on it the first two mags then I ran flawless

  • @robdunham7398
    @robdunham7398 5 місяців тому

    There are no issues or illegalities with shipping USPS back to a mfg for service/repair.

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  5 місяців тому

      Thanks. I jest took it to my ffl. SS sent a shipping label so it was easy.

  • @Fantom_axg
    @Fantom_axg 4 місяці тому

    Mine is at warranty at the moment same issue

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  4 місяці тому

      sorry to hear that. I have mine back within two weeks. cutting a videos on that now. I am happy with their work.

    • @Fantom_axg
      @Fantom_axg 4 місяці тому +1

      @@therightgun I’ve since got it back . They put an enhanced slide release lever which I don’t like due to its slimness but with that said I fired 300 rounds not 1 malfunction

  • @robdunham7398
    @robdunham7398 4 місяці тому

    There is nothing wrong saying “slide release.” It it wasn’t supposed to be used to release the slide it wouldn’t be made with a textured paddle to so it.
    I’m 70. My dad who coached the CA National Guard pistol team for 20-years never call it anything other than a “slide release.”
    Don’t let these “Tactical Basement Dwellers” tell you anything different.

  • @Jesusfreak2639
    @Jesusfreak2639 4 місяці тому

    As an FFL. All I do is stick it in the mail

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  4 місяці тому

      Hey thanks. I not ashamed to admit I was hesitant to do that. It was just so foreign from any other way I’ve shipped a firearm.

  • @MrRjezonie
    @MrRjezonie 3 місяці тому

    So we need to buy Glock parts to make this thing right??!! Maybe just buy a Glock to begin with!

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  3 місяці тому +1

      Posting tomorrow, my last SS video and I am done with them.

  • @AngelRivera-z1d
    @AngelRivera-z1d 3 місяці тому

    The fix is simple EDC A GLOCK

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  3 місяці тому

      You are so correct! They go bang. Simple. Elegant.

  • @RockinRack
    @RockinRack 2 місяці тому

    Too many of these stories. How do you ruin glock reliability? Its the only thing its got going for them 😅

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  2 місяці тому

      I sold back the CR920X to buy back a 43X MOS. I hear ya! Thanks for the comment.

  • @blazerdude89
    @blazerdude89 19 днів тому

    Big hands hitting the slide stop/release while firing?

    • @therightgun
      @therightgun  19 днів тому

      Well, we will say medium sized hands... but thanks. No actual out of spec parts. SS had me send it back in they replaced parts. That said still had issues with jamming and slide lock. got rid of it. I do have the CR920P (G43 variant), runs great!