The realistic sound update truly shocked me. Not only does it take the immersion to another level, it adds another level to your equipment choices. Taking off and keeping track of your helmet when you're in breathable atmo will be an actual consideration in SC now, since you'll automatically be at a disadvantage if you have to listen through your helmet. Wardrobe management is a weirdly small thing i'm super excited for.
I really hope that the "thrusters disconnect" button will available also outside of the demo, allowing us to experience a true 100% decoupled mode on all axis
at 5:36 It's not only the landing. It means we can potentially fly with this mode without gear down too : ) On control surfaces and maneuvering thrusters, first of all, I still think it's not a binary switch, but an efficiency curve on both. And quick solution for your critique would be to separate mavs' on/off to a separate keybind. Like [I] toggles all engines, holding [I] toggles mavs on/off or something. It'll be fun to see how different ships will fly only with mains and control surfaces : )
I would have liked to have a landing 3d map on the radar hologram , :/ like we had a long time ago to land on pads . also no detail on the master mode in-depth specification , did they added back tri-chording , balanced the thrusters curves etc , I love the 6DOF and newton physics approarch we have right now , and while i agree combat can be bad with only jousting , they solution in the mastermode they allowed us to test felt a bit off , just like you said on your "rant" video on it
Essentially you come in nose down and place your vector indicator right in your landing zone. Then while drifting slowly you flatten your ship out because you do not need to see where you are going anymore because you’re vector is right in the middle of the pad. Right when you feel you’re getting close to the surface you re-couple and allow the coupled friction to slow you down for a nice landing. I have been doing this forever. Whether it’s a Carrick in a hanger or the arrow at a bunker.
@@BlackMaze I don't think you're gonna win that one unfortunately. My hope is that they make space for unarmed racers to visit that 6dof flight much easier, without making overall combat look goofy. Imagine a back strafing javelin lol...
Atmo may become quite brutal. It's not rare to lose a wing or something in a fight. At the moment that can already cause some issues with missing thrusters but missing control surfaces may be even worse. Good to see quantum boost coming back, we used to have that back in the day after all. Will make it much faster to get to bounty targets on planets and moons that are not at any facility as well.
Flying with one wing will be doable depending on your wing surface area and lifting body of the ship, so something like the Gladius with large wing surface area could probably keep stable flight with enough air speed.
@@TheDAWinzI imagine CRs style would be to balance that type of damage in a way that the ship crashes into the ground semi-controlled like a Star Wars plot armor crash.
One thing that concerns me that wasn't addressed about atmospheric flight and control surfaces is where does that leave industrial ships which do not have control surfaces. Will there be no more ship mining or salvage on planets? Are ships like the constellation and redeemer now useless in atmosphere? Can bounties just hide on planet and you cannot go after them unless you have a fighter? Will I even be able to land my reclaimer on a planet after the update? They addressed nothing about ships that do not have control surfaces
In the demo, they showed a gladius hovering for a few seconds and said that it still works but it burns a lot of fuel. I think that industrial ships like the reclaimer and vulture will be more fuel efficient with their maneuvering thrusters to keep them airborne for longer.
Yeah, I'm hoping ships with VTOL capability using large thrusters will remain as they are. The mole is already a hydrogen hog as it is.@@studiostudios6102
One way or another, loading Carrack into personal hangar, then use the in-hangar ASOP to call your pisces and ursa or whatever and just load them on. At some point I'd imagine you'll be able to spawn small ships and vehicles into ship hangar or cargo bay
Over the next 12 months was the rough timeline but obviously take that with a mountain of salt haha, I think the only things given dates were updated clouds with fog and light shafts is 3.22 which is exciting as that was one of the visual changes I liked the most. Then new planetary destinations were Q4 this year - do with that what you will 😂
how can you, as a DCS player think this hud is good?! seriously?! a) WAY too small, so forget noticing anything in your peripheral vision b) unintuitive.......HORIZONTAL speed bar?! seriously? c) missing information in the forward facing hud, that we need to see the state of our ship, like g-meter, speed, etc. good luck using this in a heated combat situation
nothing like some videos of stuff thats not in the game.. lmao they showed animals like 5 years ago .. u call these game changers i agree, but they never put anything in the game so nothing changes
Yeah but it seems a lot of this stuff was made in Squadron 42 which is now feature complete and they said they weren’t going to wait for SQ42 release to start bringing things to SC. So getting this stuff in a reasonable time seems likely this time but you never know 😂
I'm getting pretty fed up with this kind of bs disrespect imo. CIG have in fact put loads of stuff in their game. And the stuff that isn't there is clearly still being worked on
@@samuelmorkbednarzkepler oh ya, are they currently working on drinks being able to be added to ur hand? what about elevators not working? maybe docks coming out to the 890 jump? maybe a marker to see the vast amount of usless big ships so they have gameplay for there cost? what about guns not working on ships until u drive back and get a new one? How about transferring items ? How about most functionality of all ships? Are they working on jump points not being created and the massive work around to drive anywhere in orison system? What about spawning and losing all ur stuff because ur floating in the abyss of a station and have to kill ur self? Fiends in ur party that just cant be seen do to a visual bug they working on that? Stutter issues that come on and off from the over complicated heads up display ships have, they working on that? Maybe use more then a spaghetti argument to make your point.
@@craig5340 yeah you're right. They are actually not working on anything. As we speak all 1000 employees are just sitting around in a swimming pool probably. You're definitely right. Such a genius brain you have
I too like to pretend it's possible to select only 10 things as the best of this citizencon.
Ya it was an incredible show. Best ever.
Lol for sure, control surfaces!!
The realistic sound update truly shocked me. Not only does it take the immersion to another level, it adds another level to your equipment choices. Taking off and keeping track of your helmet when you're in breathable atmo will be an actual consideration in SC now, since you'll automatically be at a disadvantage if you have to listen through your helmet. Wardrobe management is a weirdly small thing i'm super excited for.
I really hope that the "thrusters disconnect" button will available also outside of the demo, allowing us to experience a true 100% decoupled mode on all axis
at 5:36 It's not only the landing. It means we can potentially fly with this mode without gear down too : )
On control surfaces and maneuvering thrusters, first of all, I still think it's not a binary switch, but an efficiency curve on both. And quick solution for your critique would be to separate mavs' on/off to a separate keybind. Like [I] toggles all engines, holding [I] toggles mavs on/off or something. It'll be fun to see how different ships will fly only with mains and control surfaces : )
I would have liked to have a landing 3d map on the radar hologram , :/ like we had a long time ago to land on pads . also no detail on the master mode in-depth specification , did they added back tri-chording , balanced the thrusters curves etc , I love the 6DOF and newton physics approarch we have right now , and while i agree combat can be bad with only jousting , they solution in the mastermode they allowed us to test felt a bit off , just like you said on your "rant" video on it
Yo so you need to do what’s called a decoupled vector landing
Essentially you come in nose down and place your vector indicator right in your landing zone. Then while drifting slowly you flatten your ship out because you do not need to see where you are going anymore because you’re vector is right in the middle of the pad. Right when you feel you’re getting close to the surface you re-couple and allow the coupled friction to slow you down for a nice landing. I have been doing this forever. Whether it’s a Carrick in a hanger or the arrow at a bunker.
That'll happen. They want to do it, but I think they've been waiting for the new map system so they can build it from that.
They did mention that a landing hud is coming! Unfortunately master modes remains with all its artificial limitations. :(
@@BlackMaze I don't think you're gonna win that one unfortunately.
My hope is that they make space for unarmed racers to visit that 6dof flight much easier, without making overall combat look goofy. Imagine a back strafing javelin lol...
It was such an amazing experience to be there! thanks for helping me to continue processing it!
Damn I did not noticed the new HUD is infinite projected. Thats cool
The future is so bright I gotta wear shades! Now I have to change my controls to match DCS. DCS in space!
Atmo may become quite brutal. It's not rare to lose a wing or something in a fight. At the moment that can already cause some issues with missing thrusters but missing control surfaces may be even worse.
Good to see quantum boost coming back, we used to have that back in the day after all. Will make it much faster to get to bounty targets on planets and moons that are not at any facility as well.
Flying with one wing will be doable depending on your wing surface area and lifting body of the ship, so something like the Gladius with large wing surface area could probably keep stable flight with enough air speed.
@@TheDAWinzI imagine CRs style would be to balance that type of damage in a way that the ship crashes into the ground semi-controlled like a Star Wars plot armor crash.
Be careful!
@@vorpalrobot There are still thrusters so I assume you'll always be able to bring the ship down safely but should make fighting in atmo quite hard.
o7 maze. Good stuff. Stoked for where SC is headed.
Heeey Tweaked! Good to hear from you!
Great highlights! Can't wait to give the new flight systems a shakedown
I've always been able to play decent enough, but looking at this stuff, my poor computer will not be able to keep up :(
Lolollll polishing = another 10years
Thanks for covering this I can't get twitch working and CIG have yet to upload all their coverage to youtube o7
I saw a boat!! are boats confirmed?
One thing that concerns me that wasn't addressed about atmospheric flight and control surfaces is where does that leave industrial ships which do not have control surfaces. Will there be no more ship mining or salvage on planets? Are ships like the constellation and redeemer now useless in atmosphere? Can bounties just hide on planet and you cannot go after them unless you have a fighter? Will I even be able to land my reclaimer on a planet after the update? They addressed nothing about ships that do not have control surfaces
Yes, I'm sure all your ships are going to be useless.
@@tomhuitema2068 wouldn't be the most egregious thing cig did.
In the demo, they showed a gladius hovering for a few seconds and said that it still works but it burns a lot of fuel. I think that industrial ships like the reclaimer and vulture will be more fuel efficient with their maneuvering thrusters to keep them airborne for longer.
Yeah, I'm hoping ships with VTOL capability using large thrusters will remain as they are. The mole is already a hydrogen hog as it is.@@studiostudios6102
But can I spawn my carrack with its pieces in it..
One way or another, loading Carrack into personal hangar, then use the in-hangar ASOP to call your pisces and ursa or whatever and just load them on. At some point I'd imagine you'll be able to spawn small ships and vehicles into ship hangar or cargo bay
Nice
Did they say when they expect any of this to drop? I can't wait!
Over the next 12 months was the rough timeline but obviously take that with a mountain of salt haha, I think the only things given dates were updated clouds with fog and light shafts is 3.22 which is exciting as that was one of the visual changes I liked the most. Then new planetary destinations were Q4 this year - do with that what you will 😂
The new hair is said to release this month of October too, right? And Pyro till 31 december
haha ok gotcha. thanks!@@guysolomon7904
Why are people acting like the game released?
how can you, as a DCS player think this hud is good?! seriously?!
a) WAY too small, so forget noticing anything in your peripheral vision
b) unintuitive.......HORIZONTAL speed bar?! seriously?
c) missing information in the forward facing hud, that we need to see the state of our ship, like g-meter, speed, etc.
good luck using this in a heated combat situation
nothing like some videos of stuff thats not in the game.. lmao they showed animals like 5 years ago .. u call these game changers i agree, but they never put anything in the game so nothing changes
Yeah but it seems a lot of this stuff was made in Squadron 42 which is now feature complete and they said they weren’t going to wait for SQ42 release to start bringing things to SC. So getting this stuff in a reasonable time seems likely this time but you never know 😂
I'm getting pretty fed up with this kind of bs disrespect imo. CIG have in fact put loads of stuff in their game. And the stuff that isn't there is clearly still being worked on
@@samuelmorkbednarzkepler oh ya, are they currently working on drinks being able to be added to ur hand? what about elevators not working? maybe docks coming out to the 890 jump? maybe a marker to see the vast amount of usless big ships so they have gameplay for there cost? what about guns not working on ships until u drive back and get a new one? How about transferring items ? How about most functionality of all ships? Are they working on jump points not being created and the massive work around to drive anywhere in orison system? What about spawning and losing all ur stuff because ur floating in the abyss of a station and have to kill ur self? Fiends in ur party that just cant be seen do to a visual bug they working on that? Stutter issues that come on and off from the over complicated heads up display ships have, they working on that? Maybe use more then a spaghetti argument to make your point.
@@craig5340 yeah you're right. They are actually not working on anything. As we speak all 1000 employees are just sitting around in a swimming pool probably. You're definitely right. Such a genius brain you have
@@samuelmorkbednarzkepler not sure who said they are not working on anything,,, there will be 1000 dollar ships for you to buy. Just wait a bit