When is Genius Wand Better than Divine Glaive?
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- I'm sure if you've played Mages, you definitely wondered before: Is Genius Wand or Divine Glaive better? In this video, I will be go through statisical data which I've calculated on my own to determine which one is the winner.
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So, I've had a whole lot of questions asking: If you have more than 1 Hero on your team using Genius Wand, does their Magic Defense Reduction effects stack?
e.g. You're Kimmy and your teammates is Valir. Both of you have Genius Wand. If both of you hit the same enemy with Magic Damage, can the Genius Wand passives stack on top of each other?
So I went to test this and the result is... IT DOES STACK.
Technically, because Genius Wand's Magic Defense Reduction effect is Unique Passive, it should not stack with other Genius Wands. So this is definitely a major bug exploit you can use... 😂
Just use both on all mages, dude
deadly combo
Karina Core + Kimmy MM + Harly Mage
Harly Core + Kimmy Mage + Natan MM
one more reason to use Sylvana again
I think it's not a bug. I head it's been like that ever since it came out. Thus if you have more than 1 magic dps, it's pretty decent to buy it in that case 'scenario' instead of holy crystal
It can be good for 2 mage team then. But going 2+ mage is not a good idea as the tanks become too tanky at that point.
Both are great there is no stronger one genius wand is for killing Squishies with low def whule the glaive is to kill high def targets
at lv15 just wearing boots makes glaive better
Pretty much in general, yeah.
Or just combine the two to both easily k*ll squishes and high def
Ah so one is stronger than the other in these situations
@@marcchristianchan-chan3093 build genius wand b4 glaive though
Genius wand (GW) is better in the early game (as 1st or 2nd item).
GW is also for those heroes who deal continuous damage (like Chang-e or Gord) or those who deal multi-hit damage like Aamon or Gusion, as the magic defense reduction of GW stack per hit.
On the other hand, Divine Glaive (DG) is better than GW when it comes to penetrating the magic defense of opponents.
DG is usually better in the late game where your opponents usually have high magic defense items such as Athena's shield, Radiant Armor, etc.
Pretty good summary~
basically what ruby is saying lol
Should i still use only dg if my enemies go with Radiant + Athena combo?
@@ferg4005 Not necessarily. You can still use DG especially if it's late game and they have at least tough boots as their magic defense items.
As heroes level up, they gain magic and physical defense attributes.
I like when someone do some analysis on itemization. Keep up the good work
Thank you for the encouragment bro! 💛 Glad you liked the content
Damn.. I just went and tested that the synergy of the HolyDivineWings does atleast slightly more dmg than the synergy of GeniusDivineHoly or GeniusGlowingDivine. You weren’t lying when you said Genius Wand and Divine Glaive won’t be good in the same build, cuz their passives really do contradict eachother.. Genius Wand will FIRST apply the magic res reduction and that’ll make Divine Glaive’s percentage pen lower dealing lesser dmg..
So in my hypothesis, for single-burst heroes, its better to just only stick with Divine Glaive, while for Multi-hit users, if enemies at the very least buy athena shield, selling Genius Wand for Divine Glaive is your best bet.
Edit: actually nvm, getting divine along with genius wand is fine as long once u have enough gold, sell the Genius wand for BloodWings to maximize ur dmg in late game and get the useful stats it better provides.
Yeah boi~ At how much Magic Defense did you test on?
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming against higher magic res opponents, obviously the HolyDivineWings will lose its value once enemies have lower magic res below 45 like u stated
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming nvm, i re-edited the comment
which heroes did you test with? besides built-in def shredding, some mages have better magic power scaling than others.
@@ralfian0234 i used gusion, almost every continuous dmg mages have pretty much the same scaling
Thank you. Was waiting for videos like these.... 👍
Appreciate you watching too 😄
I actually knew this details before but me watching it and you saying every small detail makes my heart fall ❤ thank you this would help alot of begginers
Aww 💛 Let's hope more beginners will watch this and can understand more about these 2 items!
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming agreed
The other thing to consider is that Divine Glaive is much more efficient to build in the later game. It takes up just one slot.
It also depends on team composition as well. A team with more than one mage can abuse genius wand passive
I mainly use Kagura and Lunox. I used to build Genius Wand but lately, I have been completely skipping it. I rush Holy Crystal for added Magic Power then build Divine Glaive next. The last item would either be Winter Truncheon or Blood Wings. I don’t find Genius Wand that much valuable in late game.
Blood Wings gives you tons of MP, that meaty shield, and extra movement speed. It’s really worth its value. Genius Wand in early game seems like an overkill for me. Priority targets (mage and mm) don’t build defensive items that early in the game, and once they did, Divine Glaive is already there for sure to mitigate the defensive items’ effects.
Make alot of sense bro
Control mages and midlaners don't need the GW. This is a exclusive item for assassins who benefits for reducion in the mr
@@gil4371 if you’d check the global leaderboards, top-ranking players always build GW. I assume it may be associated with the extra movespeed? But I’m avoiding it now and figured, it’s not really worth it. I’m continuously experimenting with items still.
@@elton3470 so GW is comum referied a early game item, but its pretty in all mages but dont need in the geral
Glowing Wand is much better also for Genius wand
Thanks for the indepth analysis. This proves the empirical knowledge we have through observation. Good for nerding out.
Yeah, nothing beats having actual stats and numbers to back up claims. Thank you! 💛
In my Experience as a Kagura Main, i use GW(Genius Wand) as my Third Item, since CoD(Clock of Destiny) and LT(Lightning Truncheon) are my core items. Getting it as my third item will synchronize with my Damage alongside CoD and LT in Mid-game. During late game tho, i will either keep it or sell it to buy DG(Divine Glaive) in case the opponent is getting tougher. 5th and 6th item are Holy Crystal and Blood Wings.
There will be some situation where i will build Magic Pen Items like when my opposing lane decided to build Athena Shield as their first item which is quite possible situation, i will build Divine Glaive after i built Arcane Boots and Elegant Gem(Item Recipe for CoD), so i can have some damage on the opposing hero.
I can tell you have pretty good knowledge of these items from your comment. I basically have a similar approach to you 😄
Yoo bro same i would sell my genius wand if the enemy is using athena and just devine glaive with the green crystal
Great detailed guide tysm for this video keep it up bro
Very kind of you bro! 💛
Huge 'Thank you' for this explanation, it helped me alot.
And thank you for watching! Glad it was of help 😄
Another banger! Never thought about a lot of this and im a gus main:3
Thank you my friend! Your bangers are coming out like a production line too 🤣
Very very great video!
Next analysis everything about physical defense
Working on that project at the moment 😄
Good video, bro. Ur content is incredible 👏
Thank you bro 💛
yess thank you very much 🙏 me and my friend had an argument which one does better in specific circumstances and i finally have a video to make him understand
Well, I'm glad it helped to resolvd your argument 👍
This video is very helpful 😊😊😊😊...
Before this video i didn't know som much about it .....but i did know that for continuous magical attack heroes i should go for genius wand and for burst damage heroes i should take divine glaive......
But now i know a lot more .....
Thank you 😊😊😊
Glad you found it useful! 😄
Love the vid very helpful 👌 ❤
Thank you! 😄
Something I would like to add up, is that if differents heroes build Genius wand, the defense reduction can stack up
Found about it when I was playing brawl using claude against full mages, and even tho I got Athenea, Radiant armour, tought boots and rose gold, after poking me they will start to hit like a truck even without some of them using divine glave
After doing some testing, I found out that the reason was Genius wand stack up when differend heroes use them, making tanks squisier
Note that you can do this kind of strategy, but requieres the correct heroes to do so
On paper might sound crazy, but in action works pretty well if you take advantage of poking heroes and heroes with def reduction
Even if MM builds athenea, they'll get wreacked
Mmm, I'll need to to test this since technically it should not work since it's a Unique Passive. Thanks for the input!
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming you could see it as the old Dominance Ice bug
So if a team of 3 magic dmg heroes build genius wand, the stacks will reduce enemies' defense for all of them? That sounds op
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming from what I've tested, it looks like it's like that, you should do it yourself in case I'm wrong
Handsome as always with the high quality guides 😎
Thank you brother 😄
Awesome video mate
Thanks man 😁
when negative def was introduced, genius wand as a first item on eudora was so op if i remember it correctly, even saber was too op with some pen items
I remember them nerfing Genius quite a bit for that 🤣
HOLY NICE VIDS BRUH, VERY DETAILED.
Appreciate it bro 😄
could you make a recommended build for each hero in every season?
i believe it'd be a both, good insight and content
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll see what I can do
This is some case study level type of content 😂 good job 👍
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There are 4 types of pen in this game. The fixed pen like what's on arcane boots, percentage pen on divine and malefic, and hybrid fixed pen on support emblem that allows the user to get both physical and magic pen. There is also an adaptive pen but can only be used in arcade mode. Magic reduction is more like a debuff and is related to the effect of heptaseas before where it decreases physical def. But here's what I'm thinking, what takes effect first? Fixed pen or percentage pen?
Well, officially, Fixed PEN is calculated after Percentage PEN.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming with that in mind, which would be better in the late game when enemy defense is high?
1. Holy Crystal + Divine Glaive, Blood Wings
2. Divine Glaive + Genius Wand + Holy Crystal (assuming the unique passive percentage able to beat blood wing raw magic)
Hi, I'm new on your channel. Lately, I'm fascinated to use Sylvanna, may I ask if divine glaive is infective to her enemies (equipped with radiant armor) if she is also equipped genius wand?
Hi and welcome to the channel! I'm working on a video that should answer your question and I will probably include Silvana in it 😁 so stay tuned
I love your presentation. You show graphs that are easy to understand. My main character is Selena and I use glaive to counter magic defense. I don't pair glaive with the wand because wand contradicts the effect of glaive.
The wand debuffs the MD while the glaive ignores MD based on the total percentage of MD. So the higher the MD reduction the weaker the glaives passive.
I often pair glaive with calamity reaper and genius wand with glowing wand for my main Selena.
Can you please do a comparison between true damage and MP.
Thank you 🙂 I'll see what I can do about your suggestion!
Can you also recommend the best item and first skill placement for mage diggie? I think it's worth a video specifically for trapping, predictions, baiting, visions, lane control, clash prevention, and controlling enemies movement (Farfetch ik but it's scary what a tactical diggie can do in late games)
A roam guide is in one of my plans, so maybe that's something I'll cover in that 😆
Hi, was wondering if you would ever do a tier list on roles and the current meta or if you will stick to mostly analitical videos I'd like to see a video on a mage/fighter tier list someday. Thanks!
NGL I'm still working on 2-3 more videos that's more about putting these items under a microscope. But a Tier List video may not be that far off the horizon 😉
Hi. Nice explanations. Just make a video about what to replace at late games. Sell the genius wand for blood wings or keep it. And take scenarios into account like with an ally damage and without.
Hi! Nice suggestions there, I'll keep these in mind for future videos 😇
1:38 yess finally i got my answer! I was literally always wondering if my teammates can benefit from magic dmg reduction applied on an enemy or not
😄 Glad that you found the answer you always wanted!
Give suggestions for kimmy and natan also, They are treated outcast
Marksmen only talk about physical item and mage didn't count them.😅😅
Is it fine if I always went for devine glaive as 3rd damage item for Cyclops (after enchanted talisman and concentrated energy).
The thought process of this is because he usually get 3rd item in the mid to lategame. So I just went straight for devine glaive bcs I knew the enemies gonna have a high magic def.
Another one is... I always change genius wand to glowing wand in the lategame if the hero I'm using uses both genius and devine glaive. for example Harley and Aamon.
Also... are these combo items great in the lategame for the multi hit heroes in the lategame?
Devine glaive+ Glowing wand(if enemies have high def)
glowing wand+ Genius wand( if most of the enemies are squishy)
bloodwing/holy crystal+ Devine glaive (if the heroes' skills have high power scaling)
I've always use these so I'm wondering if I have any misunderstanding. let me know what your thoughts are.
You're not wrong in all of your item combos. On paper, these combos are what would be suggested for the scenarios you mentioned. Good knowledge 😄
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming thanks man
Another good quality video about itemization
Thank you 😇
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming Can you also do one video about physical items
@@user-tl2pg5kj5b I'm working on that project at the moment! Hang tight bro 😄
I use both when using kimmy and it works wonders. even 'tanky' tanks like khufra feel like a minion lol
Hey! As a mage player the video was really helpful for me. You had some good explanations right there. But I have a few questions about genius wand and glaive.
1. Should I combine them together?
2. Is it better to build genius or glaive or both on Kimmy and Natan?
3. Should I build genius wand at late game if the enemies didn't build any magic defense?
1. 99% of the time, it's not advisable to combine them since there's better item combinations than using them together. The problem is that the Defense Reduction from Genius will diminish Glaive's Penetration since the reduction is prioritized in calculations.
2. For Kimmy and Natan, they both can very effectively use Genius' Passive, so you can sort of refer to Gusion's chart from the video on when to swap out to Glaive depending on the enemy defense.
3. Depends on several factors. If you have Impure Rage/Lightning Truncheon to trigger easy stacks for low hit count Mages, Genius Wand is likely superior to Glaive even in the Late Game against enemies that did not build any Magic Defense. Needless to say, Multi-Hit Mages will definitely want Genius Wand in such a scenario.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming sorry for the late reply but yeah thanks for the explanation!
@@RubyRubyRubyGamingWait what? DG is prioritized in magic penetration. Which means if an enemy has 100 magic def, 40% will be reduced first, then 37 magic pen points will take effect from Genius Wand. In total, building both can reduce 77 magic def of an enemy with 100 magic def. I remember Moonton developers saying %penetration will take effect before fixed magic pen points to improve mages.
@@aiaugustine6548 Unfortunately, that's totally wrong and can be verified through evidence in game. If you have any experience with the damage formula, we can calculate to the exact decimals that Penetration comes after Defense Reduction. By the way, Penetration does not reduce Magic Defense, but instead ignores it.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming What did you mean by Defense Reduction? Magic def reduction from Genius Wand? I'll collect more informations and will be back on this topic later.
Thank you for the tip
Nothing better than being thanked by the bigblackclock 🤣
I used both of them while playing Nana. It's so fun to kill mm with one boomerang and a flameshot.
If you have the two items, no doubt it will penetrate even the highest magic defense.
Secret you might not know in game: Genius Wand effect on same enemy hero is stackable which means if your team has 5 people build Genius Wand, the same enemy target can reduce Magic Defend up to 105 maximum (7*3=21/person x 5 = 105 Magic Def reduction on the same target). RubyRubyRuby has already tested and give the answer in the comment section. But this secret works since Genius Wand released until now. It's not a bug, but it's unique item effect for each player. It counts as an item that improves Magic Pen and reduces enemy Magic Pen.
I've tested many times in real matches with my team members, if we pick 4-5 Magic Damage heroes and all buy Magic Pen items, our damage deal increased a lot in team fight with Genius Wand effect combined with other Magic Pen items because when enemy Magic Def reduce below 0, the Magic Damage Received will increase A LOT!
Yeah fun facts 😁
WHERE DID U GO ITS BEEN 3MONTHS
My man, can you do an in-depth guide to the difference between retribution spells and who would benefit each type the most?
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll see what I can do.
So I was just curious maybe u could do a comparison between calamity and divine glaive or genius wand to compare between various heroes??
I'll see what I can do 😄
hey, you should do a video on the reworked malefic roar and the pen items, because its really not that easy to understand when its the best time to buy malefic roar and if its still worth it to build hunter strike and blade of the heptaseas as the first two items in your build
Just posted this video actually!
are they effective against magic defense items from tanks?
Genius Wand can still benefit Pharsa with full stacks via passive, S1, and S2 prior to ult strikes.
Also, I recommend not keeping both pen items at late game unless you have space. The final defense difference is around 20, which is small.
Agreed. In the ideal scenario you will be able to stack Genius Wand with Lightning Truncheon, Impure Rage and Pharsa's Passive. I'm just taking a more common scenario where Pharsa is bombing enemy backlines just with her Ult, and passive strike may already have been used prior and on CD, so I also discounted that out of the equation.
Yeah, it's not ideal to have both these items together since they're in conflict due to Magic Defense Reduction being prioritized in calculations.
Is lylia and nana a burst or multi-hit hero? Can someone answer please
Great video ! Could you do one about war axe, which hero can benefit from ?
Thank you! I'll see what I can do 😄
Ruby, if you dont mind me asking, how much of an advantage do emblems give you overall? (Mine are in the level 30s, I wanna know how much that impacts my performance)
I can't say how much exactly since I haven't done any math on them, and won't be until the emblem revamp patch comes to the original server. But based on just Penetration stats alone, I would say it helps A LOT.
If only Moontoon gives you appreciation for making guides on all items. Some items needs adjustments for game for it to be competitive in scene eSports for example it could improve the game without pushing more skins.
I like to build genius wand earlier than divine glaive because it just reduces their defense and can make it negative. And most of the enemies we encounter early game dont even build heavy magic def such as athena and radiant armor so divine glaive would be kind of useless.
Good info
Thank you 🙏
I always test items after reading or watching these vids and posts with Chang’e who’s very unique due to her ultimate having more separate magic damage than any other hero and increased skill damage passive meaning radiant armor against her and glowing wand are super effective on her due to items’ passive. With Arcane boots and ice queen wand in all my magic item tests tests (since I always build these first) the item that was able to do most damage was actually Glowing Wand against a lvl 5 Layla with guardian helm for hp, radiant armor since that counters Chang’e, and 2 silence robes for additional 60 magic def to simulate level ups. Even at this high magic def Glowing wand did more damage against radiant armor + large amount of magic def beating 2nd best item which is Glaive by 500 magic damage. Last was Genius wand which makes sense since it’s over 100 magic def. But now guess what’s crazy, there’s a 3rd magic item that beats genius wand when there’s 100+ magic def and that is Holy Crystal beating genius wand by 300 magic damage. This just shows how unique Chang’e is with her passive and ult that hits like thousand times.
At lvl 8 the glaive finally catches up with glowing wand which just shows glowing wand beats all these items until the tank gets 2 magic def items + magic def from 8 lvls.
I love seeing these things on magic pen and everything but when you play such a mage with unique interaction like Chang’e , I have to test it myself to see what truely does more damage against magic armor.
Thanks to this vid racking my brain over this I can optimize my build and use blood wings over genius wand since it does more damage when glowing wand and glaive are already in use against the lvl 9 Layla from the test and it give more durability and more spd.
Yeah Chang'e is on the extreme end of the Multi-hit mage category for sure. She's one hell of a beast to theorycraft about tho since her math is really complicated and the game texts are unclear on the exact numbers. Better to do it your way and just use training camp to test damage 😂
Honestly yeah since who would of guessed that Holy crystal does better against high magic armor than Genius wand on Chang'e. I would love to see how different the damage ramp for the items are for Chang'e compared to other mages but as you said it such a extreme end of a sub-type of mages and complicated to calculate especially with that 40% skill damage increase passive messing it up even more.
@@Lucarioux Maybe one day I'll have the time to do individual hero guides. Till then~
So while I know now that divine glave magic pen is calculated AFTER magic reduction, does this apply to genius wand magic reduction too? So does buying genius wand create diminishing returns for divine glaive
Yes, it does apply the same calculation applies in the case with Genius + Glaive. So there is indeed diminishing returns
Im a kimmy main and i combine both of these items as my main build. I usually sell GW and purchase blood wings when the enemies are starting to get tough. Am i doing it correctly?
I'm working on the research on using the 2 items together, so for now I don't have any conclusive answers. Hopefully soon!
what's the difference of the penetration numbers between the one with percentage icon (%) and the one that's just a number? this is confusing for me. for example, the arcane boots have +10 Mag Pen, what does the +10 means? 10% or just a fixed 10 damage point?
Percentage Penetration relies on and is calculated with Enemy Defense stats, while Flat/Fixed Penetration (the ones with just +x amount) will always provide the same amount of Penetration regardless of the Enemy Defense stats
Que le sirve mas a Kimmy? Muchas veces me encuentro que el enemigo se equipa todos los items de defensa mágica del juego y por mucho que me equipe toda la penetración mágica no puedo bajarlos rápido, me da rabia a veces porque Kimmy es un tirador de daño mágico como Natan y este último puede bajarse a los enemigos en 4 segundos con una build mágica sin tanta penetración:(
Kimmy can use Genius Wand really well, so as long as enemies do not build high magic defense, Genius Wand is really great on Kimmy. But once they start building high Magic Defense, you should definitely build Glaive.
Yessss This Explains why I'm Having Difficulty 1shoting With Eudora and Aurora but Heroes like Julian And Joy Are Painful with Just Genius Wand This Confirms my experience why I have more Success Building Divine Glave on Eudora than Genius Wand and All the enemy has is Tough boots (Its Ridiculous considering the Gold Differences)
Eudora can actually do pretty good with Genius Wand actually! You can use Impure Rage + Lightning Truncheon to trigger 3 stacks on Genius quickly by just starting with S2, then your Ult will benefit from the 3 Stacks of Genius Wand immediately, plus her S2 reduces enemy Magic Defense by 10, which makes it even more deadly!
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming but what if I don't use impure rage? Would that make a difference cause based on my experience I desperately need magic worship for burst mages in early to mid game since the enemies are often left with 1 hp after my combo and magic worship finishes them off. And at late game with Eudora I can one shot squishies with 2-1+lightning+magic worship
And I'm really confused on what items to build on Eudora because some players use the usual burst build with CoD + LT and crystal, glaive, wing and some players build genius wand, glaive, holy, winter and blood wings
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming In an Ideal Game Absolutely Problem I Have in my Usual Matches
1. Farming Speed Eudora Slow AF Need to be Smart with Item To Prioritize
2. I mostly Play Duo/Trio/SoloQ (Don't want to Insult People but They deserve it at Times) The Headless chickens Feed Enemy To High Heaven (esp Solo) Where you desperately need a Shutdown kill And Carry the Game Imagine doing that as A Mage
3. Enemy usually Smarter than my Allies Knows how to counter Magic/physical Damage While Allies Don't know What Athena Is And Prioritize Wind of Nature in a Magic Damage Line-up
Ideally Eudora can Use Genius Wand in a Perfect world Realistically You'll Struggle when your Behind Farm and Be useless the whole match Hence My Comment XD
@@Abhi59495 Impure Rage works well because it triggers upon the first hit of your combo, which is what you want to use to quickly trigger the stacks on Genius. Magic Worship only triggers after 3 hits, which for some mages, might already be the end of their combo, such as Eudora. That's not to say Magic Worship isn't powerful tho, that burn damage is really painful, and might be worth prioritizing over Impure Rage.
I'm not a Eudora main by any means, so don't take my word to be truth. I'd go Arcane Boots, COD, LT, Holy Crystal, Glaive, Immortality/Blood Wings.
@@GSF4LIFE_GroveStreet Hahaha, I absolutely feel your pain bro! Yeah, it can really be hard playing Eudora with her limitations.
bro can u make a video about how to play around antiheal items as a regen hero? I always struggle as Esmeralda, Alice, ruby or estes against antiheal,I feel like i becoem useless when the ennemy buy them. How to play when they buy these items and im playing such heroes?
Anti-heal is very strong in this game, the best way is to keep a look out on which heroes have the anti-heal items and avoid them as much as possible. Oracle only helps abit to slightly boost your regen (50% to 65%), so it doesn't really help as much. Sometimes I'd rather go for more tanky items like Radiant Armor or Athena's Shield for Magic Defense than Oracle.
I am curious how you made the chart. did you test for each point of damage or used some formulas? what method do you actually use?
I calculated everything on Google Sheets and then went in game to counter-check that everything on the charts is correct to ensure all the information is 100% accurate.
I use both for vale, his second skill 'stop at hit' need both of them, plus that ice queen.
Not wrong. That stop on hit version is kinda underrated.
Yo ruby can you make a video about the tank emblem attributes on the second tier. What do they mean about the plus percentage?. What is the difference between a percentage increase and a flat increase. Does it scale?. Why does this second tier attributes have to be separated?. (Mage emblem has this too look at the tier 2 attributes and it's the middle one) i hope you can reply
I just went to test this and the Percentage Increase is based on your Total Physical Defense stats. So example you have 300 Total Physical Defense, you will get a +8% increase which gives you additional 24 Physical Defense, making it 324. So it does scale, and it's separated since it scales differently to flat attributes. IMO it's not that strong since it competes with CDR for that slot, and as you can see even at 300 Defense, it only gives 24 stats which can easily be obtained through items.
Thank you for this explaination 🩷
😁 Glad you enjoyed it
Boss please make a videos for physical attack items.
Another idea here is that each point of magic defense bypassed at low mdef values is much more effective than each point bypassed at high mdef values. Hence genius wand is good for low mdef targets and divine glaive for high mdef.
But as a gusion main i usually buy both as i'll usually be unable to target lock only low mdef opponents at higher elo.
Yes, at lower levels of MDEF, the Damage Reduction from Defense is higher, so lower it is more effective at those levels. But that's the whole reason why Genius is preferred over Glaive for low levels of MDEF, it's more so that Glaive PEN scales with MDEF so it's more effective when the enemies have higher MDEF.
Hi ... I have a question 😊..
For Eudora ..i saw almost everyone buy genius wand as her first item ..but she is one shot hero .. but also if go for divine glave her 2nd skill reduce enemy magic def 10-25. Also i can't do one shot at level 4-8 if i go for clock of destiny (i think it's useless for eudora) ..so i am confused what should I go for her first item .. holy crystal , blood wings or something else? Plz 🥺 give me suggestions!
( Sorry for Bad English )
I'm no Eudora main here, but I usually go COD on her as the first item. Genius is actually a decent item on her especially if you have Impure Rage to trigger more stacks quickly. Together with Arcane Boots, it's pretty strong.
Eyy got dat Betosky type voice .... nice
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Can you also do one for Holy Crystal? It feels obsolete since Blood Wings is only a few golds away, and I'd rather have these two items rather than Holy Crystal
Have you checked out my Divine Glaive guide? I compared Glaive vs Holy Crystal on that one. Here's the link to it if you're interested: ua-cam.com/video/pEQoCaVWS0o/v-deo.html
I believe they both are better togather
Holy crystal is better late because you already have 200-300 magic power from items like genius or calamity reaper
And blood wings get a massive boost when you have a high amount of magic power, which is boosted with holy crystal
So buying both gives you a 700 magic power amount and a 1400 shield
OK, consider that I have kimmy or natan and the enemy has 2 tanky heroes who have built both radiant and athena and have 160 Magic Def. What should i build now? Both genius wand and DG or DG and Blood Wings with holy crystal to complement it more?
With that high amount of Magic Defense and probably HP, you might want to consider Divine Glaive + Glowing Wand for Natan and Kimmy. They can exploit Glowing Wand's HP based damage + flat per hit damage scaling, and add on Divine Glaive's Penetration to the mix. It's a deadly concoction. 😈
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming Thank you so much bro, had gotten a fred and akai duo in rank, had to experiment too much in that match, later had to change the whole build to physical, was an intense lmao
short answer should be genius wand, the heroes you should be going for as the mage would usually be the squishies being the mm/core if possible, thats just my opinion though
Can i buy both? Does it have any effectv?
Do you advise building them both at the same time? I used to do that but after watching your previous video about divine glaive i'm still a bit unsure
99% of the time the advice is not to do that, since their passives are in conflict. Magic Defense Reduction is prioritized in the calculations, so it also reduces Divine Glaive Penetration, therefore it's better to just use either one.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming okay, thanks for the advice! Keep it up with the quality videos!
I'll do my best! 💛
Been following your videos closely, could you do an analysis for the interaction between glaive and athena when the shield passive is up? Does the penetration apply before or after the reduction passive? Great video as always, thanks!
I'll probably add this detail when doing the Magic Items video. Thank you for the suggestion 😄
Would you mind making a video on magic worship & impure rage? I see literally every mage player using worship but for some mages I rather use impure rage. I feel like worship doesn’t trigger quite good on every mage?
Great work again 👏🏼👏🏼
I'll probably wait for the new emblem system to land on the original server first before making content on emblem talents, since whatever I make now may be changed by then. Thanks for the suggestion!
What if you use them together 🤔
Hii. I also knew roughly but knowing the exact point at which I should use any of these is great. Can you also do the same comparison between the physical pen iteams.
If you can answer me 2 questions
1. Is it worth it to make pen iteam on Dyroth ? I normally don't build.
2. Is melefic roar on Saber has any use Bcoz I see many recommend build do but i think it is not worth it.
Hi there! Yeah, I'm working on the Physical Penetration analysis, probably as a next video. I haven't done in-depth research on Physical PEN yet, so I'm afraid I can't give you any conclusive answers yet.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming Can you also make a video on -ve defense. I have known about it but no one is with me to test it so I can't really know exactly how it's working.
@@ash-2650 it's one of the projects that's in my list, so stay tuned!
I always use genius wand if enemy only have 1 magic def item, but if have 2 or more i put both glave and genius.
Clearly what I needed, this has been really informational time to apply in-game. You need more credit for such teachings my friend thank you and good job
Appreciate it bro! Glad you found it useful 😄
Im a zhask main for a long time and I need some guide for pen item. Zhask is kind of both burst and continuous damage mage. I already test him in training with both GW or DG but i can't decide whats better for him. Yes, i already watch your video carefully about timing to buy those items but in a real game sometimes zhask is lacking damage even for squishy foes. If i want some burst damage, i take COD build like some burst mage e.g eudora. If i want multiple damage by maximize his basic attack spawn damage, I'll pick continuous with CD items. I used to pick both GW with DG, but after watching your last video about those items are contradict each other, I'm in a confused situation. This is the minus of zhask, he can build whatever builds he likes, but in change he doesn't have a perfect or ultimate builds like every other mages.
Maybe you can give me some tips to solve this problem? I already calculate everything when playing zhask, but I'm bad at math. Thank you!
Nice to see a Zhask main around. That dang alien insect is so freaking annoying when he's on the enemy team! I have yet to do any work on Zhask or play him enough to give you good advice on him tho. Sorry about that.
Anyways, I'm still working on whether Genius Wand + Divine Glaive can be a good combo, so hang tight for that one.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming im looking into it, thanks
I'm a Valir main. What's the damage interaction between Valir's passive + Glowing Wand's stack passive + Genius Wand's stacks?
I have very limited information about Valir since I have not tested anything about him TBH. I can probably guess that Valir can trigger Genius really well, but I'm not too sure about Glowing.
Genius wand should be sold for items like blood wings late game due to its effectiveness diminishing
Well, depends on the enemy Magic Defense and whether you have Glaive. Blood Wings will usually not overtake Genius in damage against a Level 15 enemy with 45 Magic Defense, even with if you have a full build. Penetration is a really powerful tool.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming I agree with u but since items like malefic and glaive are always in my builds, I find that flat pen items are not really necessary and would rather go for more attack power with exception to heroes like dyrroth with percentage pen already in their skills then I would focus on flat pen more
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming as long as the difference in damage is like 8% or less then Bloodwings should be better since it gives movement speed and health
@@wattz9293 hunter strike with malefic roar deals more damage to enemies with high def points compare to bod with malefic roar just to let you know
That'll depend on your hero's skill magic scaling. If they have huge magic scaling, (150% and above) better to go for Blood Wings. If not, then just stick with Genius.
This is a better explaination instead of school teacher explaination
Thank you 😇
Between Glowing Wand and Holy Crystal, which magic item provides better dps? I always assumed Holy Crystal would provide better dps, but my damage seems to be significantly better whenever I build a glowing wand over holy crystal. How does that "magic damage taken increase" in Glowing Wand's passive work?
Mmm this would depend on enemy's HP pool for glowing wand, and your overall magic power and your hero's magic damage scaling for holy crystal. Hard to say which is stronger without those details
9:04 I thought there's update where penetration take effect first then only reduction, this upd come along with negative def if I rmb correctly
I'm not sure which update is that, but at this current time of writing, we can definitely confirm that Reduction comes before Penetration calculations which can be proven through evidence.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming 14:47 ua-cam.com/video/6beN6Q8kDDI/v-deo.html
shud be this though it's on advance server, idk if it applied on original server I just can't find it
At reaching the late game, would having Genius Wand and Divine Glaive both at the same time be counterproductive? If so, what item should I change Genius Wand into? Would Glowing Wand be a good alternative item to Genius Wand?
Having both is good, I usually sell holy crystal in late game for blood wings cuz it's not that much of A difference
There is very little incentive to have both items, especially in the late game, since Divine Glaive pretty much does a sufficient enough job against the squishies in the late. Unless the entire enemy team does not build any Magic Defense at all, I don't see a reason not to have Divine Glaive for the Late Game.
Having both items means you're sacrificing an item slot for more Magic Power, or Utility items like Winter Truncheon or Immortality.
As for Glowing Wand, I have not done any in-depth research into that item yet so take my advice with a pinch of salt. Glowing Wand's HP based damage and Stacking Flat Damage increase is good on paper against Radiant Armor, so if you're facing that item, it would seem like a good swap to Genius. But I must say you shouldn't really consider it as an alternative to Genius since it's not a like-for-like trade, whereas Divine Glaive would be a more appropriate swap since it's about Penetration.
This is so nice
Thank you 😄
its simple if youre mage dps (ex: kimmy, natan, gord) use genius wand if youre burst mage (ex: eudora, aurora, pharsa) use devine glaive and if youre core mage use both
What if you and someone else from your team already bougth Genius Wand? Will their stucks combine?
Well, based on game mechanics, Unique Passives such as the Genius Wand defense reduction effect should not be stackable. But I have not tested it to confirm it, so I can't say 100% for sure.
Go for Genius Wand if you want to snowball early game.
But if you're like me, who wants to play safe, go straight for Divine Glaive.
So, does combining GW and DG a good thing? Or is it more efficient to just use DG only instead? Video idea: 2 Item combination effectiveness
I'll be working on this research project soon! Stay tuned 😄
I do hope you can answer this! For Vexana, which one is better?
It depends on alot more factors than just the hero, but to be on the safe side, Glaive.
I can't decide which of them is better so i just use them both lol
so does genius wand's passive counters devine glaive's passive ?
like if someone built both when GW lowers the enemy's defense will DG passive have lower defense stats to work with ?
Yes, it Genius' defense reduction will be prioritized in calculation before Glaive Penetration calculation. So Glaive Penetration is lower when using it together with Genius.
Would you consider to make great analysis with dataset of hero in MLBB with Machine Learning Approach with me? It's my idea for my Data Science project.
I kinda need to find dataset about MLBB heroes but i didn't found one which updated recently. I only find one which last updated in 2020 in Kaggle dataset.
I just found this idea this day and idk how i start it.
Hrm, what do you need though? If you need me to provide all of MLBB Hero stats, I won't be able to help with that since it's also hard for me to obtain them 🤣
We should also take in account the amount of magic power each items give
This was part of the calculations for the comparisons. But yeah, you guys should also take note of that.
Something I noticed but I'd like you to test and comfrirm is sea helbert's speed cause it seems like you get more speed than the 25% I build the standard trinity build got to 2.70 speed I then swoped out dhs for sea helbert and my speed was 3.70. So please do check it
Okay, I'll try to find some time to check this
I want to know tho, how much does having both genius wand and divine glaive impact your damage? especially when using heroes that can reduce the enemies magic damage
I'm still working on the research for this 😄
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming ah I see I see