F-16C Viper: NEW G Warm Up Feature Added | DCS

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  • Опубліковано 17 кві 2024
  • We take a short look at the new G Warm Up feature added to the F-16C which temporarily increases the pilot's ability to handle high G loadings from approx 9 seconds to approx 30 seconds.
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  • @doemacmonkey
    @doemacmonkey 26 днів тому +8

    I’m not a fighter pilot (nor an aerobatics pilot), just a rec pilot, but I have listened to the RAAF performing BFM off the Australian coast on Stud frequencies before that comms became scrambled, and they would always call beginning G warm up before the exercises - but once was enough to last through the whole training flight of multiple engagement sets - they didn’t warm up just before each individual set. This could have just been a setting for G tolerance.

  • @hasina1461
    @hasina1461 26 днів тому +3

    i think the way IL2 does it is pretty good overall you have your G tolerance which is depending on if your pilot has a G-suit or not like in the later war American warbirds like the mustang D p38 and late p47D-28 or if the seat if slightly angled back like in the BF109K4 and you have your pilots tiredness. Pulling lots of high G manoeuvres for long periods of time will have an impact on how tired your pilot is and the longer you stay in combat the more fatigued your pilot will become which effects his G-Tolerance

  • @mattgn39
    @mattgn39 27 днів тому +2

    Well said, very funny. Combat ensues: "Just making a brew to warm me cockles, be right with you."

  • @Kelvin3531
    @Kelvin3531 27 днів тому +1

    This feature was there since G-tolerance model was implemented. :) But, I agree, now it is more visible.

  • @droneforfun5384
    @droneforfun5384 27 днів тому +4

    With quick G build-up, a sudden blackout is realistic. With slow G buildup, a gradual lost of vision is expected. Is that modelled too?

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar 26 днів тому +2

      Yah it greys out from what I’ve seen before u slowly get the tunneling

  • @VimyScout
    @VimyScout 27 днів тому +5

    Cheers CAP and the crew 👍

    • @AdamMi1
      @AdamMi1 26 днів тому

      Nice dog!

    • @VimyScout
      @VimyScout 26 днів тому

      @@AdamMi1 Explain.

    • @AdamMi1
      @AdamMi1 24 дні тому

      @@VimyScout the dog in your profile picture looks nice.

  • @richardgreen364
    @richardgreen364 26 днів тому +1

    “G-warm” up could be performed in a cbt situation though positioning with your element while setting up for a BVR shot. For AG/CAS use of careful planning at or just before or at IP?

  • @AdamMi1
    @AdamMi1 27 днів тому +2

    Now the F16 is perfect. Before the pilot blacked out extremely quickly, but after the update the F16 feels unbeatable in a Dogfight!

    • @Plexi417
      @Plexi417 25 днів тому

      Nope, still effortlessly beatable unfortunately.

  • @speeddemon2262
    @speeddemon2262 22 дні тому

    I wonder if this G update on the DCS Viper warrants another Turn rate comparison to other jets.

  • @Duvstep910
    @Duvstep910 27 днів тому +6

    crazy; first BMS added this and now DCS. Awesome
    edit: the warmup is done in combat over friendly territory; particularly before you fence in (as a BMS player)

    • @hungrigeeule
      @hungrigeeule 27 днів тому +3

      But that means that in BMS the warmup effect stays for a longer time period?

  • @andreartymiuk
    @andreartymiuk 27 днів тому +1

    Looks like the same G tolerance change has been applied to the Spitfire also. Could be all modules ? Maybe one to test when you have the time.

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 26 днів тому

      i think i saw it in the F-15C as well

  • @ChristinanathanWesterfie-pr4jj
    @ChristinanathanWesterfie-pr4jj 27 днів тому +1

    Is it true the carrier can be "walked through" and helm controlled? More on topic, it's been my experience that if you Fully black out, forcing the nose down will return vision and if you red out the reverse holds true...is that accurate to DCS as well?

  • @eaches
    @eaches 27 днів тому +2

    Cap keepin' that g-spot warm. Well done! Giggity

  • @terrynewsome6698
    @terrynewsome6698 27 днів тому +2

    Could you do a video to see if you could intervept kh101/555 with l-39 traitors with r-60s to cover cities with not sam coverage?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  26 днів тому

      KH-101/555 flies faster than L-39 can? This may be hard...

  • @daviddoyle982
    @daviddoyle982 27 днів тому +1

    I was doing an FA18 campaign, the Aggressors one I think, and it was saying the g warm ups are modelled in the FA18 🤷‍♂️

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar 26 днів тому +1

      It’s not I can all but guarantee that

    • @daviddoyle982
      @daviddoyle982 26 днів тому

      @@Utubesuperstar I was hoping that someone would say that.
      I was surprised when I heard someone say that on a paid campaign and ask us to do it before going into BFM training. Maybe I should send a reply to the campaign maker and ask for their source.

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar 26 днів тому

      @@daviddoyle982 if it was a campaign actually made by Ed maybe but a third party one? Heck nah

  • @JRMshadow260a
    @JRMshadow260a 25 днів тому

    Did you know that the US pilots AAC and Naval aviators had and used G suits during WW2???

  • @RTSchramm
    @RTSchramm 26 днів тому +2

    I think this effect is a waste of programming resources when there are so many other issues and bugs with the F-16C in DCs that need to be fixed.

    • @marimarianacolt
      @marimarianacolt 23 дні тому

      what kind of bugs? I was going to buy the F-16C but now I want to know if its broken or what

  • @brandonchappell1535
    @brandonchappell1535 23 дні тому

    They should give u 20-30mins or so, irl, they do the warmup before the sortie, so if it lasted 15secs why would the military even waste the fuel/maintenance on it

  • @heyviper1238
    @heyviper1238 25 днів тому

    Iirc 30 seconds of 10g with a suit is a minimum requirement to even stay in the US F-16 program, if you can't do that you won't be combat certified, I've even seen some people (namely Hazard Lee on UA-cam) maintain 11-13 for roughly that amount of time, viper pilots are an entirely different breed of human. I don't know if this test is done with or without warmup, and actual aircrew are much better suited to answer that question then I am (i give you the floor, please tell everyone if and how I'm wrong) but what I do know that the effect of a warmup tends to slowly peter off over the course of several hours unless you continue to do high G maneuvers during that period which would reset (and in a lot of cases extend) the "timer" which of course isn't actually a timer because people don't run on clockwork.
    The way it's done right now is quite frankly a lazy and pointless way of doing things, and any F-16 crew (or aircrew period) would tell you it is blatantly unrealistic. I appreciate that they're trying but I have to say I'm very disappointed in the end product in this case, I really hope they put a lot more effort into this in the near future, in its current state the F-16 is still being heavily nerfed by bad physics.

  • @Slikx666
    @Slikx666 27 днів тому +1

    First thing is Cap looking handsome.
    Second thing is shouldn't there be something in the game that keeps track of all the high G manoeuvres you make and base your in game tolerance on that?
    It would need to have a time limit on it so that any manoeuvres you made a year ago are irrelevant. (I don't know what the time limit would be).

  • @mac5202
    @mac5202 27 днів тому +2

    Do the modules like the f18 and f15 has it well?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  26 днів тому

      If they haven't now then they will be added soon.

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 26 днів тому

      @@grimreapers i think i have seen the new G effect in the F-15C

  • @lordsqueak
    @lordsqueak 26 днів тому +1

    Why is this a thing that was added?

  • @chrisstopher2277
    @chrisstopher2277 26 днів тому +1

    I thought you were going to start breathing like your having a baby.

  • @stuartdavenport2952
    @stuartdavenport2952 26 днів тому +1

    I don't have the game so I can't confirm this, but after watching Growling Sidewinder's channel, this is what I understand.....
    There is no "warm up" procedure needed at all. It is just a correction of the onset of G that came with the latest F16 update. In other words, in the past with the G effects turned on, the pilot would black out way sooner than a real life F-16 pilot would experience. After the update, the onset of G is more realistic, being able to sustain 9 Gs for about 30 seconds, closer to real life. It's not like you have to do a "warm up" for the new G effect update to work. But like I said, I don't have the game, but that's my understanding. It's just an update, no "G warmup" needed.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  26 днів тому

      Noted, I must admit I'm just going on what other people have said.

  • @John_SlideRule_Bullay
    @John_SlideRule_Bullay 27 днів тому +2

    Where do I register for GR flight school? 🤔 I'm asking for a friend. 😉Video Valued by Valued Viewer - Fly Army! 🚁

  • @blackhatch46
    @blackhatch46 26 днів тому +1

    I think its stupid. G warm up is done in training to be able to do maneuvers more safely. Not for combat.

  • @piconano
    @piconano 27 днів тому +3

    I thought DCS was a simulator! WTH is this simulating? Gimmickry?
    Maybe they should fix the clownish landings where half the plane goes into the ground and back up.

    • @Ironwulf2000
      @Ironwulf2000 25 днів тому

      It is a legitimate procedure to acclimatise the body to high G forces, as well as confirm the systems that are meant to counteract them, are functional.
      As for the "clownish landings", usually the result of poor network comms with the server, or considerable latency differences. Not sure how they are supposed to fix that.

  • @nakedcellist
    @nakedcellist 26 днів тому +1

    Awesome.. it almost sounds like an aerobics class..

  • @pj23nl
    @pj23nl 26 днів тому +2

    that is some precious dev time wasted in a sillyass feature.pretty sure there are enough things for them to work on that actually makes the game better than adding crap like this.

    • @Ironwulf2000
      @Ironwulf2000 25 днів тому

      total silliness ... but if that JFS door doesnt open at the right speed, there's hell to pay, YEAAAAAAAH!

  • @HeloHounds
    @HeloHounds 27 днів тому +1

    What a dumb game mechanic. They need to remember it's a game.