Watch out for This Winter spontaneously flashing onto the screen (presumably in protest for its lack of physical presence on my bookshelf) at 9:21. :P **ALSO, if you have any knowledge of the leaked season 3 footage, please DO NOT share it here, even under a spoiler warning. Thank you! (And thank you, @emms232, for mentioning this in your comment and reminding me!)
I was wondering whether “HOME” might also develop Darcy’s situation. In the comics, it’s mentioned by Tara that Darcy’s home life isn’t good, when they are at the beach. So it could all come to a head about then.
Great summary. I can imagine ’Winter’ ending on the NYE party to leave the viewer on a positive note after the heaviness of the main plot. I’m hoping since Elle is at art college this season (not sure if that involves moving?) she can talk to Nick about what it is like to not see your boyfriend everyday, and what some of the positives are of having your own space to do your own thing. I also hope we get more exploration of Isaac’s ace identity.
I have to admit that I am obsessed with this universe that Alice created. It’s so healing for me personally as a middle-age gay man . Because I’m so obsessed with it I actually took October 3 off from work because I knew I wasn’t going to be able to concentrate knowing that the episodes had dropped. I plan to watch and rewatch the episodes at least once.
I saw someone on Twitter hypothesize that the moment of them (n plus c plus Nellie) in the park maybe when Charlie is looking at the photos in nicks room before he goes to say I love you thru the door. I think in the comics there’s a little mini montage of the moments that made the photos (if I’m remembering correctly) so maybe it’s a flashback of sorts to show them over the summer that we missed. I also feel like it could be a flash (that we didn’t see in the opening scene teaser) when Tori says “you’ve been together all summer” and maybe that’s when there’ll be a montage of their activities?
I genuinely cannot wait for this season. I love that we’re gonna be getting story lines about mental health where it feels like there’s a light at the end of the tunnel rather than being stuck in misery all the time like most shows portray mental health to be. I also hope we get an insight into other characters mental health, such as Nick. I can’t imagine it being easy knowing that the person you love is away in the hospital and there’s nothing you can do. I also am hoping that Isaac’s aro/ace story gets the justice it didn’t really have time to get in season 2. I am also really hoping they touch more in Tori’s feeling about it and maybe have the two have a conversation about it as this show is known for putting unlikely pairings together
I wonder whether Nick's dad will return for this season. given the fact that Sarah will be missing as well due to Olivia Coleman's scheduling conflicts. I also have a theory about episode Love about Isaac discussing being aroace with Charlie because of one still I saw (though it might have been just Tobie and Joe cuddling). I was also thinking maybe the episode Body will also somehow involve Darcy because we can see her cutting her hair and wearing a binder which are quite important body changes. And regarding the comments I also have one plea - please, if anyone watched the leaked S3, do not mention any spoilers in the comments, because I saw it happen and it's quite rude to those of us who are waiting.
@@thom_is_trans You're welcome. Despite my timelines being relatively "well-behaved" I already saw one leaked screen capture and I would very much like to keep it at that.
This time around, I tried to guess the episode titles by myself beforehand (even before they teased the first letters). I was shocked to have had 6/8 right guesses (although some weren't in the right spot, e.g. I thought episode 2 would be called Apart, but funnily enough it is episode 8's title). The only ones I didn't think of were Home and Body. I love your explanation for Home. 🤗 I remember Alice saying that s3e4 was the best episode they've written across all seasons. I'm anticipating a devastatingly beautiful episode (à la s2e8, maybe?) ❤️🩹 The picture of Tori with teary eyes is killing me. I know they are most likely happy tears, (she's smiling) but it literally makes me want to cry. 😭
I think we all know what Winter will be about lol Still love that short story and I cannot wait to see what all was adapted from it. My theory for the screenshot of Love is that maybe it's a quick montage scene of Nick and Charlie being cute and just *barely~* saying it to each other leading into the mirror scene right before the beach. I agree with your theories on Home, and with it focusing on Tao and Elle I think they will also broach a bit more on Elle and Tao's relationship with her being away now and them finding "home" in eachother. Zoo for Nick's birthday has me jealous lol Talk could definitely mean some kind of conversation between Nick and Charlie about Charlie's mental health, would also ruin me if it turns into Nick talking to his Dad about doing better.( And skimming the other comments, I would also love to see them talking to Issac about his growth in realizing himself and his feeling) Journey gonna make me sad :) Can't wait to see Joe's acting on Charlie's development with his journey through getting help. Body I agree will defintey deal with Charlie's feelings over his body and them helping him make progress over battling those thoughts. AND YEAH DRUNK PARTY!!!! Together & Apart to me are going to be a connecting line between various people in the group deepen their relationships together, both dating and friendship wise, and then them finding out how to be apart from one another in a healthy way. Basically what you said. And I hope we get the scene with Charlie and Tori on the ferriswheel, maybe even throw in a nod to Issac and see Tori have some kind of understanding moment with him. Will def be dope to see how the storyline develops this season and where Imogen will be through it all since she's new to the timeline :D Cannot wait for October!!!
For the picture with talk, did anyone else notice that Charlie is not in the photo? I haven’t seen anyone mention it yet (I haven’t seen anyone mention this anywhere) . I’m very curious about that. If Thom is right about the birthday thing, he hasn’t left yet. And I don’t believe he’s left for the hospital either. Aldkfkksfk all other thoughts have left my brain lol Loved the video ❤ I also just needed this happiness (I just finished mark of Athena by Rick riordan, iykyk 😭)
He is actually in the photo, he’s just sandwiched between Nick and Elle. You can’t see his head at all, but you can see his flannel shirt hanging in between Nick and Elle. It’s an oddly staged still photo for sure!
@@DarcyFanClub of course! I didn’t realize it either until someone pointed it out on Twitter, and I recognized his shirt from that other photo we already had of them all at the zoo.
Thom, what a great commentary and speculation! I am soooo ready for more Heartstopper. Yes, and please let there be a season 4 🙏🙏🙏 BTW, nice haircut...you look terrific!
I'm personally very hopeful Netflix will make season 4, because the story is finite and Volume 6 is being written right now(ish.) Also, if a *certain* Mac DeMarco song isn't played somewhere in this season (maybe even episode 7!!) I might cry.
if we see michael, is there going to be any mention of solitare, is my question. higgs burning? meeting michael? the solitare pranks? will we get an adaptation before a (possible) season 4? unless they don’t do season 4 and season 3 is the end of the series? but what about the future volume 6 and nick and charlie? i don’t know but i feel like we should get a solitare. im not saying we’re owed it, like, maybe it doesn’t happen in the series, but maybe we will learn more about tori. even if they just turn solitaire into tori telling ollie/charlie what happens? i dunno. just an idea.
I’m guessing the scene with Nick Charlie and Nellie is probably from a montage of Charlie trying to say I love you to Nick before the beach day? I’m wondering when Charlie’s self harm relapse will happen so I can be prepared 😭…I’m thinking probably in the “winter” episode because Joe Locke referred to the *first half* of the season as dark and also I don’t think it would really make sense to be in the “body” episode 🤔
I'm looking forward to Home possibly being more about Michael and Tori and who Michael is to Tori. I'm wondering how they're going to do Winter without Sarah Nelson. Charlie going over to Nick's house with all his family and David with no glimpses of Sarah on Christmas day in her own house will be odd. Really looking forward to all the new characters playing Nick and Charlie's extended family.
I know it doesn't come across that way but the "I can't believe you didn't notice/comment on" comments are VERY badly worded compliments. I believe I did notice something once that you either didn't notice or didn't talk about in your video. I actually forgot to post about it, so don't remember now what it was. But my first thought was "I can't believe, I, a Heartstopper pissant noticed something THE Heartstopper deity didn't". The "can't believe" isn't based on your being dumb but on your being so smart that it's hard to believe you'd miss anything. The UA-camr watch it for days does these incredibly detailed "deep dives" into Columbo. She did one for an episode directed by Leo Penn. She didn't mention that Leo was Sean's father. I almost did the "can't believe" phrase but I didn't thanks to your wise counsel. But my surprise was due to her research being so incredibly thorough, not because she was dumb to not know about a TV director's kids.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the fact that in the Talk picture, everyone except Charlie is in the group picture. Like, even Imogen and Sahar are there, but not Charlie. Where is Charlie? Did he manage to come? Was he struggling? Did something happen? I just want him to have fun zoo times like the rest please 😭
In the comics it is Nick Tara and Elle who go on the road trip to check out universities but in the TV show Elle has already been accepted into art school I wonder if they will use a different character for this
Elle will still be looking at Universities. My daughter is in fashion college and has started going on trips to universities to decide on her tertiary education. Art School/College for Elle is just a different type of schooling yet parallel to what Tara and Nick are doing at Truham and Higgs. College in the UK is the equivalent of junior and senior year of high school in the states, it just specialises in one subject.
I can't wait to see season 3, but am anxious to see if Netflix will commit to a season 4 or more...if Netflix doesn't come through with a renewal, maybe See Saw can work out something with another streamer. Anyway, thanks for the insights into season 3!!!! ❤️🧡💛💚🩵💙💜
Watch out for This Winter spontaneously flashing onto the screen (presumably in protest for its lack of physical presence on my bookshelf) at 9:21. :P **ALSO, if you have any knowledge of the leaked season 3 footage, please DO NOT share it here, even under a spoiler warning. Thank you! (And thank you, @emms232, for mentioning this in your comment and reminding me!)
I was wondering whether “HOME” might also develop Darcy’s situation. In the comics, it’s mentioned by Tara that Darcy’s home life isn’t good, when they are at the beach. So it could all come to a head about then.
Great summary. I can imagine ’Winter’ ending on the NYE party to leave the viewer on a positive note after the heaviness of the main plot.
I’m hoping since Elle is at art college this season (not sure if that involves moving?) she can talk to Nick about what it is like to not see your boyfriend everyday, and what some of the positives are of having your own space to do your own thing.
I also hope we get more exploration of Isaac’s ace identity.
I am going to rewatch both seasons to get ready for season 3 ❤️
I have to admit that I am obsessed with this universe that Alice created. It’s so healing for me personally as a middle-age gay man . Because I’m so obsessed with it I actually took October 3 off from work because I knew I wasn’t going to be able to concentrate knowing that the episodes had dropped. I plan to watch and rewatch the episodes at least once.
I saw someone on Twitter hypothesize that the moment of them (n plus c plus Nellie) in the park maybe when Charlie is looking at the photos in nicks room before he goes to say I love you thru the door. I think in the comics there’s a little mini montage of the moments that made the photos (if I’m remembering correctly) so maybe it’s a flashback of sorts to show them over the summer that we missed. I also feel like it could be a flash (that we didn’t see in the opening scene teaser) when Tori says “you’ve been together all summer” and maybe that’s when there’ll be a montage of their activities?
I genuinely cannot wait for this season. I love that we’re gonna be getting story lines about mental health where it feels like there’s a light at the end of the tunnel rather than being stuck in misery all the time like most shows portray mental health to be.
I also hope we get an insight into other characters mental health, such as Nick. I can’t imagine it being easy knowing that the person you love is away in the hospital and there’s nothing you can do.
I also am hoping that Isaac’s aro/ace story gets the justice it didn’t really have time to get in season 2. I am also really hoping they touch more in Tori’s feeling about it and maybe have the two have a conversation about it as this show is known for putting unlikely pairings together
I wonder whether Nick's dad will return for this season. given the fact that Sarah will be missing as well due to Olivia Coleman's scheduling conflicts.
I also have a theory about episode Love about Isaac discussing being aroace with Charlie because of one still I saw (though it might have been just Tobie and Joe cuddling). I was also thinking maybe the episode Body will also somehow involve Darcy because we can see her cutting her hair and wearing a binder which are quite important body changes.
And regarding the comments I also have one plea - please, if anyone watched the leaked S3, do not mention any spoilers in the comments, because I saw it happen and it's quite rude to those of us who are waiting.
Thank you for mentioning that - I've edited my pinned comment to warn people against sharing any spoilers like that here!
@@thom_is_trans You're welcome. Despite my timelines being relatively "well-behaved" I already saw one leaked screen capture and I would very much like to keep it at that.
This time around, I tried to guess the episode titles by myself beforehand (even before they teased the first letters). I was shocked to have had 6/8 right guesses (although some weren't in the right spot, e.g. I thought episode 2 would be called Apart, but funnily enough it is episode 8's title). The only ones I didn't think of were Home and Body.
I love your explanation for Home. 🤗
I remember Alice saying that s3e4 was the best episode they've written across all seasons. I'm anticipating a devastatingly beautiful episode (à la s2e8, maybe?) ❤️🩹
The picture of Tori with teary eyes is killing me. I know they are most likely happy tears, (she's smiling) but it literally makes me want to cry. 😭
I think we all know what Winter will be about lol Still love that short story and I cannot wait to see what all was adapted from it. My theory for the screenshot of Love is that maybe it's a quick montage scene of Nick and Charlie being cute and just *barely~* saying it to each other leading into the mirror scene right before the beach. I agree with your theories on Home, and with it focusing on Tao and Elle I think they will also broach a bit more on Elle and Tao's relationship with her being away now and them finding "home" in eachother. Zoo for Nick's birthday has me jealous lol Talk could definitely mean some kind of conversation between Nick and Charlie about Charlie's mental health, would also ruin me if it turns into Nick talking to his Dad about doing better.( And skimming the other comments, I would also love to see them talking to Issac about his growth in realizing himself and his feeling) Journey gonna make me sad :) Can't wait to see Joe's acting on Charlie's development with his journey through getting help. Body I agree will defintey deal with Charlie's feelings over his body and them helping him make progress over battling those thoughts. AND YEAH DRUNK PARTY!!!! Together & Apart to me are going to be a connecting line between various people in the group deepen their relationships together, both dating and friendship wise, and then them finding out how to be apart from one another in a healthy way. Basically what you said. And I hope we get the scene with Charlie and Tori on the ferriswheel, maybe even throw in a nod to Issac and see Tori have some kind of understanding moment with him.
Will def be dope to see how the storyline develops this season and where Imogen will be through it all since she's new to the timeline :D Cannot wait for October!!!
I love your videos so much especially the ones about heartstopper, which is a show that I’m obsessed with🩷✨🔥😊🩷💜💙😊😊
For the picture with talk, did anyone else notice that Charlie is not in the photo? I haven’t seen anyone mention it yet (I haven’t seen anyone mention this anywhere) . I’m very curious about that. If Thom is right about the birthday thing, he hasn’t left yet. And I don’t believe he’s left for the hospital either.
Aldkfkksfk all other thoughts have left my brain lol
Loved the video ❤
I also just needed this happiness (I just finished mark of Athena by Rick riordan, iykyk 😭)
He is actually in the photo, he’s just sandwiched between Nick and Elle. You can’t see his head at all, but you can see his flannel shirt hanging in between Nick and Elle. It’s an oddly staged still photo for sure!
@@cemcalex omg thank you so much!! I was so confused lol
@@DarcyFanClub of course! I didn’t realize it either until someone pointed it out on Twitter, and I recognized his shirt from that other photo we already had of them all at the zoo.
I’m not seeing it?? All I see is Isaac, Elle, and Nick, and I’m zooming in on the official instagram photo
NEVERMIND I SEE IT-
Thom, what a great commentary and speculation! I am soooo ready for more Heartstopper. Yes, and please let there be a season 4 🙏🙏🙏 BTW, nice haircut...you look terrific!
Keen to revisit this video after bingeing season 3 😊
I'm personally very hopeful Netflix will make season 4, because the story is finite and Volume 6 is being written right now(ish.) Also, if a *certain* Mac DeMarco song isn't played somewhere in this season (maybe even episode 7!!) I might cry.
if we see michael, is there going to be any mention of solitare, is my question. higgs burning? meeting michael? the solitare pranks? will we get an adaptation before a (possible) season 4? unless they don’t do season 4 and season 3 is the end of the series? but what about the future volume 6 and nick and charlie? i don’t know but i feel like we should get a solitare. im not saying we’re owed it, like, maybe it doesn’t happen in the series, but maybe we will learn more about tori. even if they just turn solitaire into tori telling ollie/charlie what happens? i dunno. just an idea.
I’m guessing the scene with Nick Charlie and Nellie is probably from a montage of Charlie trying to say I love you to Nick before the beach day?
I’m wondering when Charlie’s self harm relapse will happen so I can be prepared 😭…I’m thinking probably in the “winter” episode because Joe Locke referred to the *first half* of the season as dark and also I don’t think it would really make sense to be in the “body” episode 🤔
The titles are usually quite lovely.
Also, when I first heard that the first episode of Season 3 would be ‘Love’…died and resuscitated and died again
I'm looking forward to Home possibly being more about Michael and Tori and who Michael is to Tori.
I'm wondering how they're going to do Winter without Sarah Nelson. Charlie going over to Nick's house with all his family and David with no glimpses of Sarah on Christmas day in her own house will be odd. Really looking forward to all the new characters playing Nick and Charlie's extended family.
I'm looking forward to seeing Henry 🐕🐕🐕
I know it doesn't come across that way but the "I can't believe you didn't notice/comment on" comments are VERY badly worded compliments.
I believe I did notice something once that you either didn't notice or didn't talk about in your video. I actually forgot to post about it, so don't remember now what it was. But my first thought was "I can't believe, I, a Heartstopper pissant noticed something THE Heartstopper deity didn't". The "can't believe" isn't based on your being dumb but on your being so smart that it's hard to believe you'd miss anything.
The UA-camr watch it for days does these incredibly detailed "deep dives" into Columbo. She did one for an episode directed by Leo Penn. She didn't mention that Leo was Sean's father. I almost did the "can't believe" phrase but I didn't thanks to your wise counsel. But my surprise was due to her research being so incredibly thorough, not because she was dumb to not know about a TV director's kids.
body is giving me some weird ideas regarding the 5th book
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I’m surprised you didn’t mention the fact that in the Talk picture, everyone except Charlie is in the group picture. Like, even Imogen and Sahar are there, but not Charlie.
Where is Charlie?
Did he manage to come? Was he struggling? Did something happen? I just want him to have fun zoo times like the rest please 😭
He is there, between Nick and Elle! He's just a bit hard to see in this picture, but he's there. :)
Did you know that Nellie is actually male so can you say that Nellie is trans? Yes, No?
In the comics it is Nick Tara and Elle who go on the road trip to check out universities but in the TV show Elle has already been accepted into art school I wonder if they will use a different character for this
Elle will still be looking at Universities. My daughter is in fashion college and has started going on trips to universities to decide on her tertiary education. Art School/College for Elle is just a different type of schooling yet parallel to what Tara and Nick are doing at Truham and Higgs. College in the UK is the equivalent of junior and senior year of high school in the states, it just specialises in one subject.
I can't wait to see season 3, but am anxious to see if Netflix will commit to a season 4 or more...if Netflix doesn't come through with a renewal, maybe See Saw can work out something with another streamer. Anyway, thanks for the insights into season 3!!!! ❤️🧡💛💚🩵💙💜