Yeah you right mostly definitely I have met girl’s that was like that if anything didn’t go they way or you didn’t agree with them on certain thing’s or if you had an opinion about something and they didn’t like it they would try to create some type of issue with you just so you could get mad at them just so they could call you jealous of them for no reason but in reality it’s them that’s hateful and bitter for no reason and that jealous word is away to cover up how they really are and have people turn against you have other’s say that you are jealous of them as well.
Exactly… like calling her bum and clingy yet not getting her her own room. “You’re gonna be with me the whole time”. Not making it easy, not assisting her getting her own space (room) either. Telling her “she’s good, she’s good” yet she in fact..was not good.
I'm stuck on the allegations of her hitting her bf and that not being the thing to shake her career. She's not only verbally and emotionally abusive but physically?
Right like this is the first time I heard that part about the texts and I’ve heard of these texts so many timesss it’s crazy how people jus skimmed over that
The fact that Ice chopped it all up to being about a chicken salad and bags shows how in the wrong she is. It’s clearly not about chicken salad and bags.
Right, and her comment about Cleo wanting to stay in her room every night like.. where tf was she supposed to go? you invited her on tour without accommodating the space, that's on you boo.
no this tho. someone in another comment section tried to defend her like “she was jealous n wanted handouts. she couldn’t even afford a chicken salad lol” bro what are you even talking about, cleo was not the one that couldn’t afford a chicken salad. btch really had her people say there wasn’t room for cleo in the budget. ice sounds exactly like a dirty dude getting caught cheating. you bring up the problem to him and how he did this and that and he just brings up the most irrelevant detail, disregarding the whole issue at hand
@@billyford2262 i think a lot of ppl mistake “chalked it up” for “chopped it up” bc chopping it up is a term that people have used to mean shooting the shit and being social, but chalking things isn’t familiar to a lot of people under the age of 35 bc they don’t register where “chalk it” would come from. most people also just don’t really care about saying idioms or expressions word for word bc we all know what it’s supposed to mean and isn’t literal anyways lol
ice spice saying that cleo is wrong for focusing on the chicken salad tells u how entitled she is cus girl do you know how embarrassing and humiliating it is to be denied food ?? to be told u can’t eat? that stuff is humiliating…. and that wasn’t even the point of cleo bringing it up !!!! cmon !!!!
especially bc cleo isn’t even the one focusing on it! like that was never her ONLY problem and it wasnt her biggest problem, so for ice to focus on it so hard and project as if that’s the only thing cleo said is such crazy work.
Ice spice not recognizing how culturally inappropriate as a US citizen OUR CULTURE!!!! It's so damn inappropriate to deny someone a meal YOU invited. She's scummy and nasty and is so self centered and selfish with 0 hospitality girl thinks culture doesn't apply to her. As Americans it is such a disrespectful gesture to do everything she's done so far to this woman SHE INVITED. I'm horrified to see how she'll treat people in other countries. I'm sick of people saying Americans have no culture we have one big social culture with a vast plentiful beautiful ecosystem of other cultures living together. Ice spice is dead wrong in every culture with her behavior. She's garbage.
So Drake is the reason why we’ve had to experience Ice Spice against our will… Someone get Kendrick on the phone, imma need a drive by Diss Track as compensation for this.
poor cleo. she has a good vibe- karma will get ice spice. lmfao at the bodysuits and jordans comment! the only good thing about ice spice’s songs are the beats. the lyrics all sound the same and are barely variations of one another. i don’t get why she was lifted up by the industry at warp speed and given all these opportunities when the talent just isn’t there. there are plenty of other female artists who are more deserving. i wanted to crawl out of my skin from the sheer cringe of that livestream where she is asked to freestyle and she just twerks. 😂
I think the only reason Ice got catapulted to fame is because she’s easy to mold into a performer her labels want. No morals, no boundaries, she just does whatever to get whatever
Same. It may sound childish and trivial to some ppl when talkin about bugs but Texas and Florida are like the Aussie to the U.S. crazy scary shit out here
i saw Ice Spice when she opened for Doja Cat in December 2023...her set was almost unbearable (and i like some of her songs). she barely even rapped her music, a solid 75% of her set was just her twerking while some random DJ tried to get the crowd hype. i was excited to see her open, but it was so bad...she doesn't appreciate the career she has
I saw a stream where Kai Cenat was bigging her up to freestyle and she just twerked...he asked her what about her freestyle and she said, "that was my freestyle." He was like, "THAT was your freestyle???" me too Kai, me too
I had a friend that I was very close to in school, and hearing Cleo talk about the energy some people change into is so real. Overnight, my friend started being cold, so much so that it scared me to be around her. When I addressed how I felt to her, she spined it to be that it was me that was distant and that she felt neglected that I didn't like her insta stories (?1?!) I apologized for the latter and for things I honestly feel like I didn't have to. Anyways, she's left me on delivered ever since that day even though she says we made up. It's best to leave friendships for your own sake when people change faces.
if someone becomes a cold bish and start treating you bad because yiou dont like their instagram stories, they are COOKED as a perosn and you need to get away if they start treating you that cold because you didnt like instagram stories? imagine what else they will do to you if they interpret something else negatively? thank the lord that your friend ended up just leaving you alone
@@essjay1944 It’s hard sometimes to completely leave because she was my best friend. :,) I occasionally try to comprehend for a reason why. You try to see the best in people and that’s how it bites you.
So real. I'm sitting here relating to her so hard (except, you know, me and my "ex-friend" being regular plebs instead of famous artists lol). I will never understand how a person can flip apropos of _nothing_ and start acting all weird and evil. When I finally figure out that problems I'm having are from "friend" talking mad shit behind my back, I pick an appropriate time and place and calmly ask what his problem is with me, suddenly he can't speak. Had a lot to say any time I wasn't there, for MONTHS, but not to me. Got all cagey, lil face got red, lil forehead vein poppin out... ugh. It's not only two-faced, but childish and weak. I don't get it. Maybe some people never really give a shit about those they call friends, fine, but if nothing else, I'd be _embarrassed_ to act like that.
How you gonna come after a girl over eating a lot of food at ONE dinner. The girl was Hungry! Yall didn’t want to share nor let her have her own assistant. Didn’t even wanna give the girl a slice of pizza or a chicken salad!! I would have been a vacuum too. Tf
ice spice could’ve had a better career if she didn’t focus on the social clout aspect of it imo. some of her controversies aren’t her fault/out of her control (she didn’t release the screenshots herself), but a lot of her controversies with associations with others are so easily avoidable if she respected her career as much as her fans initially did. she was promising, now she’s tired and a gag 😪
Wdym she focused on social clout? She literally doesn’t take social media seriously. She said it in her song. Don’t want the fame I just want the money.
@@HiHi-yk1mv ngl she blew up cos of social media and clout is what she gets when she collabs with big artists. you need fame if you want that much money
It's crazy how casually ice is bringing up the chicken salad incident as if it isn't literally dehumanizing to deny someone food for no reason? Girl needs therapy or something because that's actually scary behavior....
@elainekellogg6345 she can obviously go get her own food but if I invited someone somewhere I'm not going to leave them hanging? That is such weird, back handed energy. Fan behavior is so weird because yall are purposely dense about things just to be doing mental gymnastics so your fave can never be in the wrong lmao I still like people even if they're not right 100% of the time it's okay 😂
@@elainekellogg6345, imagine someone invites you and a bunch of other friends to a movie. They tell you not to worry, they're going to pay for everything. So you get there and your "friend" tells you that, actually, you (and only you) have to pay for your own ticket. And you (and only you) have to pay for your own snacks. And you (and only you) have to call somebody to pick you up. Everybody else is covered, like they promised. It's just you that's suddenly getting left out and treated as less than. It's not about whether you could afford your own ticket and snacks, or could have somebody else pick you up no problem. It's that this person made promises to you that the are blatantly and shamelessly not keeping. And, also, treating people this way (purposefully excluding them) is a crap thing to do. It takes a certain kind of person to treat others this way. And the fact some people are acting too obtuse to get this is mind boggling.
Tbf, I kinda just assumed everyone is talking shit about Nicki behind her back. Given how she's a verifiably terrible person who married a pedophile and tried to intimidate his victim into backing off her claims.
Besides the pedo stuff…you really don’t know if Nicki is a verifiably bad person..bc you can’t verify it yourself, personally, with your own experiences. Your going off of others words, doesn’t even have to be actual experiences of theirs. But that’s not even the point, just bc she’s a “verifiably terrible person” doesn’t mean she (or anyone) should be done like that esp behind their backs. Esp if you being the better asset helped them out. And it’s odd asf that y’all still can’t get that no matter how bad she is and how much you don’t like her bc she’s so bad.
@@Boohurghhoo Bro, she went on livestream several times in which she did an offensively insulting "impersonation" of Megan Thee Stallion's deceased mother and generally acted like an unrepentant sociopath. I think we can confirm she's a bad person.
I mean yeah, openers don't get the same thing as the headliners and have to support themselves.....unless the headliner tells you they will cover you and you don't have to pay for anything to get you to go on the tour. So nah, this is all on Ice.
everything but the things about nicki minaj are totally valid. newer artists shouldn't have to smile and pretend to be happy when industry people wanna continue the cycle of abuse and exploitation.
dont u think it’s a bit hypocritical when that’s how she treated cleo and expected her to be grateful for the shit she got? cus ice can only see the wrong in others, once she’s the one doing it it’s suddenly not wrong 😂
All I heard so far from Cleo, and other people who have treated with Ice Spice is that she does not deserve to have fans, or a career. Disgusting behaviror and her response was just mean spirited.
@@autumnxhaley5496 exactly, like you're bestie is out here being ignorant and bigoted...and you chose to stay quiet about it? Like that says nothing good about you ma'am.
@@jsanto210it was basically her revenge plan bc ice bullied her in HS. It’s Storme not storm•ee, the e is silent so you literally just say and type storm(e). She said she gave her the benefit of the doubt, but saw she was still the same, and then basically she really started plotting.
okay i get that cleo felt used and stuff and i totally side with her everywhere else in this... but calling a tour bus a slave ship was very... uh... lets just say outta touch with reality??? like a whole tour bus and u are comparing it to ships where thousands of people suffered and died from hundreds of different illnesses and forms of abuse? like okay ... lets be fr right now... that shit kinda rubbed me the wrong way like... what???
fr i don't get why she felt the need to make that comparison and I also don't get why she felt the need to say she makes more money than her friends just to get her point across that she's not superior but that could just be me.. i agree with everything else though
Her point in saying that was because the similar architecture. You walk in to some bunks stacked and then the master’s quarters in the back. 🤦🏻♀️ people just hear the word “slave” and start freaking out. Calm down she is a black woman it’s just a comparison.
its just hyperbole and i dont think youd care if it was kids in a vlog bus comparing their little bus living space to that, shes saying its a small and compacted space without much area for movement or comfort..... its a given. she didnt say she was being abused on the bus😭🙏🙏
Ice spice had the longest 15 minutes of fame I’ve seen in a while, I don’t even agree that she’s an industry plant because they would have created a personality for her. They would teach her to how to act normally. She literally is an NPC, she can’t even hold a smile properly.
@@asophfable yeah that is an assumption to make on his behalf. But I wasn’t talking about him I’m talking about her fans and the people who called her out IF THIS WAS A MAN DOING THIS UOU KNOW THE MEDIA WOULD BE ALL OBER IT NOBODY WOULD JUST CASUALLY SAY SHE MIGHT HAVE ABUSED HER BOYFRIEND. Idk as a dv victim myself both witnessing it and experiencing it it’s crazy how normalized some double standards are. I wasn’t saying he brushed over it I was saying EVERYONE DID. It’s so weird how people are choosy about when and when not to care about things. She literally admitted she hit him and you know if that was a male content creator/artist it would be everywhere or people would be condoning people supporting them. So sad dv can’t be taken seriously from the male part. It happens a lot less but it still happens and statistically it happens less but that’s not counting the men who were too scared to speak up. So infuriating. But he did a good job on the video for sure.
@@angeltellez740 that’s for men to get into and most will give her a pass because they like to look at her, no need to be outraged on their behalf No point in comparing it to when men do it because men are mostly stronger than women and the only reason people make noise when a man does it, is because women fought to have it that way
Ice Spice just objectively isn’t talented. Her flows all sound the same and she doesn’t have any stage presence or charisma. Her output is boring and formulaic.
The whole bag thing is ridiculous because if ice spice brought her ice spice should of made sure that Cleo was taken care of! As in security easily could of asked Cleo what she needs or if they can help her with anything it’s the courteous thing to do especially since they invited her to come with her I know it’s ice spices tour but it’s common courtesy to check up on her people to make sure her special guest is doing okay or make sure to tell her security to keep an eye out for her to make sure she’s happy and taken care of! It’s like ice purposely was trying to not help her
Everyone complaining about him adding in Cleo’s videos but they are important for context and showing he isn’t lying about what’s being said. If you don’t want to watch her tik toks just skip ahead.
@ahsatan8997 I am 20, also wouldn't 14 year olds be more likely to be aware who ice spice is and less likely to be aware who the spice girls were/that they existed at all?
It is VERY important to include the video of Cleo saying Isis kept trying to get Cleo to say she's black and Nigerian. I haven't seen that in any other video posted about this situation except for this one. What the hell? That's the KEY. She's clearly not black, but it's so interesting that she needed Cleo to say that she was. She's trying to get closer to the black community and squeeze into a place she doesnt belong for better sales and support. It's viscious because the black community constantly tries to claim mixed, racially ambiguous, and biracial people (women in particular) as black when they are not. Damn shame.
When your name is Cleotrapa, you are clearly not one to be messed with. Sis gives genius without having to say a word! 💯 I have to be honest, I’ve never heard any of her music before. But based on how classy AND savage she managed to be, I’m about to be busy for the next several hours streaming 🎶
Great video, what are the Cleo stuff, I feel really bad, but at the exact same time her management and her label did not do their job. Usually your label negotiates all of this, you don't go on stuff like this ad hoc, because stuff like this happens.
Did you listen to Cleo? She did it because Ice asked her, and Cleo thought they were friends. Cleo later tried to get her label to help her but Ice said she wouldn't allow anyone else on the bus. Cleo's management had nothing to do with it, it was done because Cleo thought they were friends.
lmao "middle of the desert nothing for miles around" a few seconds later "the McDonald's was 8 minutes walk away" 😂 "the tour bus looks like a slave ship" 😂😂😂😂😂😂 bruhhh
Something about ice spice is off…like idk she seems very awkward and strange when it comes to communicating and having normal relationships whether that be platonic or romantic.
Do not do any favors for your rich friends lmao. They can afford to pay for their promotion and PR, let them, especially if they are barely doing you any favors in return.
Tbh, i have never liked Ice Spice, never heard her music or her voice or anything like that, but i never liked her, i always had a bad feeling about her.
In the beginning I thought she was cute and just minding her business but now she’s getting very old And doing the old things she’s done isn’t even helping anymore. Old washed up trend going down
Fame will consentrate who you are as a person. Good people stay himble and give back. A bad person will become entitled and the worst people. I really hope her bf Ryatt(?) Is an ex now because he needs to get out. Abuse is unacceptable period, and the fact that it is dissmissed because hes a man is disgusting. If the roles were reversed the reaction would be so different and that is unacceptable. It doesnt matter someones gender or identity abuse should put you in jail asap, period.
Phew im so happy i dont need to know new slang words. I just learned what cap means and i feel ten centuries behind now. I dont know where to find the new updated kid dictionary for slang words. Due to my autism its hard for me to learn them than just as i think i got a handle on it, theres a new book to learn. 😢 hootenanny still stumps me.
Yeahhh, she needs some help. A lot of help. You would think she would of treated her like gold. Did she think she wouldn’t have said anything? That’s insane thinking.
Her teeth are perfect ...u know she telling the truth cause she is just rolling it out without pausing ... cause it's the truth 😢😢.. I had to laugh when she talks about uber eats 😂😂😂..
@@yeahyeah3013 That shows you can't please everybody. Cuz I actually really like how he doesn't give too much commentary but just compiles/presents the info and lets us draw our own conclusions.
@@thebestgirl1545 I also liked hearing her talk, but it's very questionable if large chunks of this video even qualify as fair use at this point. It's not like he has a video sponsor, but still it's not a good practice to get into as a commentary creator
This is why I no longer feel shame for not having friends. A lot of friendships between women look just like this and I also would’ve left on the first red flag. The signs be there ladies!!!
Ice is a grown woman rapping about poop all the time and people expected that she wasnt going to be a weirdo? 🤦♀️ Someone who says everyone is jealous of them is super insecure and jealous of those people...but Cleo acting like she owns mini skirts and chunky boots is wild tho
Cleo’s not acting like she owns mini skirts and chunky boots..😑 tft that’s what you concluded instead of actually realizing what was said.. person a has a totally different “style” than person b. Person b comes on the radar, now in verbatim fashion person a is styling just like person b-ofc it would make them backtrack, make it odd, it’s not that hard to catch.
Someone constantly saying that everyone is jealous of them is the most jealous person you’ve ever met
Exactly, its always projection
IS- If EVERYONE arnd you has problem with you, its not them. Girl had to steal a man to promote a collab like bffr.
Yeah you right mostly definitely I have met girl’s that was like that if anything didn’t go they way or you didn’t agree with them on certain thing’s or if you had an opinion about something and they didn’t like it they would try to create some type of issue with you just so you could get mad at them just so they could call you jealous of them for no reason but in reality it’s them that’s hateful and bitter for no reason and that jealous word is away to cover up how they really are and have people turn against you have other’s say that you are jealous of them as well.
@@SaintShionright exactly she is the problem and sorry as hell.
Right, they assume everyone’s jealous like them 😭
Telling someone they won't have to pay, then acting like they're broke/using you is genuinely insane behaviour
Exactly… like calling her bum and clingy yet not getting her her own room. “You’re gonna be with me the whole time”. Not making it easy, not assisting her getting her own space (room) either. Telling her “she’s good, she’s good” yet she in fact..was not good.
Exactlyyy Cleo literally asked Ice UP FRONT if she needed to pay for anything!! Smh
I'm stuck on the allegations of her hitting her bf and that not being the thing to shake her career. She's not only verbally and emotionally abusive but physically?
I hadn’t heard about those allegations! Who’s her bf?
@@metalchurch1576Riot. They've been dating from the get-go from what I understand
@@metalchurch1576 did you watch the vid
Right like this is the first time I heard that part about the texts and I’ve heard of these texts so many timesss it’s crazy how people jus skimmed over that
for real, i can't believe nobody's talking about it
Azealia Banks getting involved is somehow the biggest twist and least surprising thing about this drama.
every time I hear of her, it's cos she involved herself in other people's dramas I swear 😭
The New Yorker she is and the habitual under dog that she’s become it truly makes sense that she would step in a have something to say.
can i just say, cleotrapa is such a genius name 😂
I think so too! Im a sucker for a good name and hers is so clever 😂 ❤
Seriously and when you rearrange the letters it still spells cleopatra. A queen for that imo
I don't get it
Yes! Thought the same thing.
@@wadiputhererapper/trapper + cleopatra = cleotrapa
The fact that Ice chopped it all up to being about a chicken salad and bags shows how in the wrong she is. It’s clearly not about chicken salad and bags.
I think she was trying to minimise it, make it seem like that was the only problem so she can make Cleo look like a dramatic person
Right, and her comment about Cleo wanting to stay in her room every night like.. where tf was she supposed to go? you invited her on tour without accommodating the space, that's on you boo.
no this tho. someone in another comment section tried to defend her like “she was jealous n wanted handouts. she couldn’t even afford a chicken salad lol” bro what are you even talking about, cleo was not the one that couldn’t afford a chicken salad. btch really had her people say there wasn’t room for cleo in the budget.
ice sounds exactly like a dirty dude getting caught cheating. you bring up the problem to him and how he did this and that and he just brings up the most irrelevant detail, disregarding the whole issue at hand
That was a typo right? You didn’t mean to say “chop”?
@@billyford2262 i think a lot of ppl mistake “chalked it up” for “chopped it up” bc chopping it up is a term that people have used to mean shooting the shit and being social, but chalking things isn’t familiar to a lot of people under the age of 35 bc they don’t register where “chalk it” would come from. most people also just don’t really care about saying idioms or expressions word for word bc we all know what it’s supposed to mean and isn’t literal anyways lol
ice spice saying that cleo is wrong for focusing on the chicken salad tells u how entitled she is cus girl do you know how embarrassing and humiliating it is to be denied food ?? to be told u can’t eat? that stuff is humiliating…. and that wasn’t even the point of cleo bringing it up !!!! cmon !!!!
its not just humiliating, its inhumane to a certain point. "this independent artist we invited to this isnt in the budget, dont feed her"
especially bc cleo isn’t even the one focusing on it! like that was never her ONLY problem and it wasnt her biggest problem, so for ice to focus on it so hard and project as if that’s the only thing cleo said is such crazy work.
Can we talk about how she basically bragged about not feeding someone? Like she admits to letting Cleo starve because she thought it was stupid?
Ice spice not recognizing how culturally inappropriate as a US citizen OUR CULTURE!!!! It's so damn inappropriate to deny someone a meal YOU invited. She's scummy and nasty and is so self centered and selfish with 0 hospitality girl thinks culture doesn't apply to her. As Americans it is such a disrespectful gesture to do everything she's done so far to this woman SHE INVITED. I'm horrified to see how she'll treat people in other countries. I'm sick of people saying Americans have no culture we have one big social culture with a vast plentiful beautiful ecosystem of other cultures living together. Ice spice is dead wrong in every culture with her behavior. She's garbage.
So Drake is the reason why we’ve had to experience Ice Spice against our will…
Someone get Kendrick on the phone, imma need a drive by Diss Track as compensation for this.
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its very weird ice called cleo jobless like... she had a job long before you.
poor cleo. she has a good vibe- karma will get ice spice. lmfao at the bodysuits and jordans comment! the only good thing about ice spice’s songs are the beats. the lyrics all sound the same and are barely variations of one another. i don’t get why she was lifted up by the industry at warp speed and given all these opportunities when the talent just isn’t there. there are plenty of other female artists who are more deserving.
i wanted to crawl out of my skin from the sheer cringe of that livestream where she is asked to freestyle and she just twerks. 😂
I think the only reason Ice got catapulted to fame is because she’s easy to mold into a performer her labels want. No morals, no boundaries, she just does whatever to get whatever
As a Texan, her description of where she was at? I know that place… and it is DESOLATE… that’s just shameful.
Same. It may sound childish and trivial to some ppl when talkin about bugs but Texas and Florida are like the Aussie to the U.S. crazy scary shit out here
@@CuntieMonke
Agreed. We got some insects and arachnids that can give you a really bad day.
austin reading those texts the way he did is sending me 😂😂
the delivery was so funny
I lost it at shea butter twitter
Mood
the delivery of the Nicki part w the "enjoy :)" took me out 😭😭
Cleo is so well spoken with this whole situation she handled it sooooooooo much better than I would have
I totally agree. She really carried herself with class.
ice's manager going on twitter to rant is so corny, her whole team is unprofessional af
Ice calling Cleo career-less is funny bc Cleo was out on the internet longggg before Munch
Faxxxxx
i saw Ice Spice when she opened for Doja Cat in December 2023...her set was almost unbearable (and i like some of her songs). she barely even rapped her music, a solid 75% of her set was just her twerking while some random DJ tried to get the crowd hype. i was excited to see her open, but it was so bad...she doesn't appreciate the career she has
Graaa ! Graaa!
I saw a stream where Kai Cenat was bigging her up to freestyle and she just twerked...he asked her what about her freestyle and she said, "that was my freestyle." He was like, "THAT was your freestyle???" me too Kai, me too
I had a friend that I was very close to in school, and hearing Cleo talk about the energy some people change into is so real. Overnight, my friend started being cold, so much so that it scared me to be around her. When I addressed how I felt to her, she spined it to be that it was me that was distant and that she felt neglected that I didn't like her insta stories (?1?!) I apologized for the latter and for things I honestly feel like I didn't have to. Anyways, she's left me on delivered ever since that day even though she says we made up. It's best to leave friendships for your own sake when people change faces.
if someone becomes a cold bish and start treating you bad because yiou dont like their instagram stories, they are COOKED as a perosn and you need to get away
if they start treating you that cold because you didnt like instagram stories? imagine what else they will do to you if they interpret something else negatively?
thank the lord that your friend ended up just leaving you alone
@@essjay1944 It’s hard sometimes to completely leave because she was my best friend. :,) I occasionally try to comprehend for a reason why. You try to see the best in people and that’s how it bites you.
So real. I'm sitting here relating to her so hard (except, you know, me and my "ex-friend" being regular plebs instead of famous artists lol). I will never understand how a person can flip apropos of _nothing_ and start acting all weird and evil. When I finally figure out that problems I'm having are from "friend" talking mad shit behind my back, I pick an appropriate time and place and calmly ask what his problem is with me, suddenly he can't speak. Had a lot to say any time I wasn't there, for MONTHS, but not to me. Got all cagey, lil face got red, lil forehead vein poppin out... ugh. It's not only two-faced, but childish and weak.
I don't get it. Maybe some people never really give a shit about those they call friends, fine, but if nothing else, I'd be _embarrassed_ to act like that.
How you gonna come after a girl over eating a lot of food at ONE dinner. The girl was Hungry! Yall didn’t want to share nor let her have her own assistant. Didn’t even wanna give the girl a slice of pizza or a chicken salad!! I would have been a vacuum too. Tf
ice spice could’ve had a better career if she didn’t focus on the social clout aspect of it imo. some of her controversies aren’t her fault/out of her control (she didn’t release the screenshots herself), but a lot of her controversies with associations with others are so easily avoidable if she respected her career as much as her fans initially did. she was promising, now she’s tired and a gag 😪
Wdym she focused on social clout? She literally doesn’t take social media seriously. She said it in her song. Don’t want the fame I just want the money.
her music is actually shit tho😭 her career is her ass😅
@@HiHi-yk1mv ngl she blew up cos of social media and clout is what she gets when she collabs with big artists. you need fame if you want that much money
one could say she's not even a fart
Daz crazy..
It's crazy how casually ice is bringing up the chicken salad incident as if it isn't literally dehumanizing to deny someone food for no reason? Girl needs therapy or something because that's actually scary behavior....
She could just buy her own damn food
@elainekellogg6345 that's not the point at all but okay girl go off....
@@plb1595 it’s not?? I thought the point was she was “starved” lol
@elainekellogg6345 she can obviously go get her own food but if I invited someone somewhere I'm not going to leave them hanging? That is such weird, back handed energy. Fan behavior is so weird because yall are purposely dense about things just to be doing mental gymnastics so your fave can never be in the wrong lmao I still like people even if they're not right 100% of the time it's okay 😂
@@elainekellogg6345, imagine someone invites you and a bunch of other friends to a movie. They tell you not to worry, they're going to pay for everything. So you get there and your "friend" tells you that, actually, you (and only you) have to pay for your own ticket. And you (and only you) have to pay for your own snacks. And you (and only you) have to call somebody to pick you up. Everybody else is covered, like they promised. It's just you that's suddenly getting left out and treated as less than.
It's not about whether you could afford your own ticket and snacks, or could have somebody else pick you up no problem. It's that this person made promises to you that the are blatantly and shamelessly not keeping. And, also, treating people this way (purposefully excluding them) is a crap thing to do. It takes a certain kind of person to treat others this way. And the fact some people are acting too obtuse to get this is mind boggling.
I adore watching Austin read rap lyrics and texts in his perfectly modulated and exact tones 😅
Ifvyou can't feed and house everyone, don't invite them. Simple as that.
Tbf, I kinda just assumed everyone is talking shit about Nicki behind her back. Given how she's a verifiably terrible person who married a pedophile and tried to intimidate his victim into backing off her claims.
I know people who said Nikki not a good person 😂
fr tho, that's the least dramatic thing about all of this
Besides the pedo stuff…you really don’t know if Nicki is a verifiably bad person..bc you can’t verify it yourself, personally, with your own experiences. Your going off of others words, doesn’t even have to be actual experiences of theirs. But that’s not even the point, just bc she’s a “verifiably terrible person” doesn’t mean she (or anyone) should be done like that esp behind their backs. Esp if you being the better asset helped them out. And it’s odd asf that y’all still can’t get that no matter how bad she is and how much you don’t like her bc she’s so bad.
@@Boohurghhoo”besides the pedo stuff” I’m sure she’s a wonderful person
@@Boohurghhoo Bro, she went on livestream several times in which she did an offensively insulting "impersonation" of Megan Thee Stallion's deceased mother and generally acted like an unrepentant sociopath.
I think we can confirm she's a bad person.
I mean yeah, openers don't get the same thing as the headliners and have to support themselves.....unless the headliner tells you they will cover you and you don't have to pay for anything to get you to go on the tour. So nah, this is all on Ice.
everything but the things about nicki minaj are totally valid. newer artists shouldn't have to smile and pretend to be happy when industry people wanna continue the cycle of abuse and exploitation.
agreed, very much a broken watch is still right twice a day situation.
dont u think it’s a bit hypocritical when that’s how she treated cleo and expected her to be grateful for the shit she got? cus ice can only see the wrong in others, once she’s the one doing it it’s suddenly not wrong 😂
agreed. i found it weird that cleo mentioned serious allegations and dissing nicki minaj in the same breath.
Ice spice really trying to defy the allegations like “nyeaaah, uh anyway”
People who try to show off the fact that they’re cheaters blow my mind. How is that ever a good thing?
All I heard so far from Cleo, and other people who have treated with Ice Spice is that she does not deserve to have fans, or a career. Disgusting behaviror and her response was just mean spirited.
Every time I watch, more people are sending you topics! So fun to see you gain an audience, keep up the great videos!
Im going to be honest, the baby stormy drama was wild...like ma'am, you knew Ice Spice was this foul and didn't mind it until she was mad.
I think she was plotting from the jump.
@@autumnxhaley5496 exactly, like you're bestie is out here being ignorant and bigoted...and you chose to stay quiet about it? Like that says nothing good about you ma'am.
@@jsanto210it was basically her revenge plan bc ice bullied her in HS. It’s Storme not storm•ee, the e is silent so you literally just say and type storm(e). She said she gave her the benefit of the doubt, but saw she was still the same, and then basically she really started plotting.
She's supposed to be an adult and she's treating people like it's high school
okay i get that cleo felt used and stuff and i totally side with her everywhere else in this... but calling a tour bus a slave ship was very... uh... lets just say outta touch with reality??? like a whole tour bus and u are comparing it to ships where thousands of people suffered and died from hundreds of different illnesses and forms of abuse? like okay ... lets be fr right now... that shit kinda rubbed me the wrong way like... what???
Thaaaaat was a wild thing to say, for sure. Like, no. Nothing compares to a slave ship, but another slave ship
rs like.. that was soo unnecessary but i *kinda* get what she meant
fr i don't get why she felt the need to make that comparison and I also don't get why she felt the need to say she makes more money than her friends just to get her point across that she's not superior but that could just be me.. i agree with everything else though
Her point in saying that was because the similar architecture. You walk in to some bunks stacked and then the master’s quarters in the back. 🤦🏻♀️ people just hear the word “slave” and start freaking out. Calm down she is a black woman it’s just a comparison.
its just hyperbole and i dont think youd care if it was kids in a vlog bus comparing their little bus living space to that, shes saying its a small and compacted space without much area for movement or comfort..... its a given. she didnt say she was being abused on the bus😭🙏🙏
Ice spice had the longest 15 minutes of fame I’ve seen in a while, I don’t even agree that she’s an industry plant because they would have created a personality for her. They would teach her to how to act normally.
She literally is an NPC, she can’t even hold a smile properly.
can honestly say i've not heard a single song from either of these ppl but it was fun to pretend for the past hr lol. ty austin
The brush over the dv allegations
Austin's usually really good about that, there was most likely no follow up with that text otherwise he usually goes into more depth, I wanna say
@@asophfable yeah that is an assumption to make on his behalf. But I wasn’t talking about him I’m talking about her fans and the people who called her out IF THIS WAS A MAN DOING THIS UOU KNOW THE MEDIA WOULD BE ALL OBER IT NOBODY WOULD JUST CASUALLY SAY SHE MIGHT HAVE ABUSED HER BOYFRIEND. Idk as a dv victim myself both witnessing it and experiencing it it’s crazy how normalized some double standards are. I wasn’t saying he brushed over it I was saying EVERYONE DID. It’s so weird how people are choosy about when and when not to care about things. She literally admitted she hit him and you know if that was a male content creator/artist it would be everywhere or people would be condoning people supporting them. So sad dv can’t be taken seriously from the male part. It happens a lot less but it still happens and statistically it happens less but that’s not counting the men who were too scared to speak up. So infuriating. But he did a good job on the video for sure.
@@angeltellez740 that’s for men to get into and most will give her a pass because they like to look at her, no need to be outraged on their behalf
No point in comparing it to when men do it because men are mostly stronger than women and the only reason people make noise when a man does it, is because women fought to have it that way
@@angeltellez740you thought I was feelin you? That boy is a munch! Him and his bro well they ate it for lunch together
@@alkahinat4558tf is wrong with u
Everytime she quotes “a chicken salad!” I laugh so loud😂
the managers response sounds sooooo unprofessional oh my god 😭😭😭
That manager should've kept his mouth shut fr
The way she said chicken SALAD 😂
if yall actually liked ice spice you’re insane 😭😭 all her songs are gross
Missed you on my feed 😭🖤
Every video you put out is so well spoken. Thank you for creating such quality content!
Hoping this helps pop Cleo off and we can put ice spice to rest. She seems like a mean girl who got lucky and doesn’t deserve the success she’s found
Cleo is no better if she friends with ice you don’t think she she thinks like her tf they cool then for she just trying to make ice look bad
Probably sold her soul to Diddy
The text between them were bonkers
It was sooooo messy
Ice Spice just objectively isn’t talented. Her flows all sound the same and she doesn’t have any stage presence or charisma. Her output is boring and formulaic.
Yeah and her looks are very average and basic now so I dunno the hype anymore.
@@LalaluDonutsWithVaniella she looked better before fame imo
She stood out and was cute, now she just looks basic
The whole bag thing is ridiculous because if ice spice brought her ice spice should of made sure that Cleo was taken care of! As in security easily could of asked Cleo what she needs or if they can help her with anything it’s the courteous thing to do especially since they invited her to come with her I know it’s ice spices tour but it’s common courtesy to check up on her people to make sure her special guest is doing okay or make sure to tell her security to keep an eye out for her to make sure she’s happy and taken care of! It’s like ice purposely was trying to not help her
Everyone complaining about him adding in Cleo’s videos but they are important for context and showing he isn’t lying about what’s being said. If you don’t want to watch her tik toks just skip ahead.
so fun fact until like a week ago i thought she was one of the spice girls and had started a solo career
😂
You must be 14 😂
@@ahsatan8997im 20 😭 why does she go by ___ spice if not to evoke the spice girls
@ahsatan8997 I am 20, also wouldn't 14 year olds be more likely to be aware who ice spice is and less likely to be aware who the spice girls were/that they existed at all?
@@ahsatan8997
What 14 year old knows about the spice girls???
This is why you listen to your gut when you feel like someone’s mad weird.
Ice is so dismissive, lol, she reminds me of a few ppl for real
THE 🍗 CHICKEN 🥗 SALAD--
It is VERY important to include the video of Cleo saying Isis kept trying to get Cleo to say she's black and Nigerian. I haven't seen that in any other video posted about this situation except for this one. What the hell? That's the KEY. She's clearly not black, but it's so interesting that she needed Cleo to say that she was. She's trying to get closer to the black community and squeeze into a place she doesnt belong for better sales and support. It's viscious because the black community constantly tries to claim mixed, racially ambiguous, and biracial people (women in particular) as black when they are not. Damn shame.
When your name is Cleotrapa, you are clearly not one to be messed with. Sis gives genius without having to say a word! 💯 I have to be honest, I’ve never heard any of her music before. But based on how classy AND savage she managed to be, I’m about to be busy for the next several hours streaming 🎶
im new to the channel i love how good you are at giving info about this stuff
Great video, what are the Cleo stuff, I feel really bad, but at the exact same time her management and her label did not do their job. Usually your label negotiates all of this, you don't go on stuff like this ad hoc, because stuff like this happens.
ice told her she couldn't bring an assistant from her label, at least that's what cleo said in one of her vids
Did you listen to Cleo? She did it because Ice asked her, and Cleo thought they were friends. Cleo later tried to get her label to help her but Ice said she wouldn't allow anyone else on the bus. Cleo's management had nothing to do with it, it was done because Cleo thought they were friends.
@@PointsofData🎯
wow ice was so rude in the texts!!
lmao "middle of the desert nothing for miles around" a few seconds later "the McDonald's was 8 minutes walk away" 😂
"the tour bus looks like a slave ship" 😂😂😂😂😂😂 bruhhh
yeeaahhh it's not like there's a "perfect" victim here but it's still easy to see who's more in touch with reality
she certainly has her points... when shes not calling things slave ships, thinkin 8 min is forever away and braggin abt comin from money lol
It’s a desert bsfr. And she didn’t say 8 minute walk, she kept saying how far everything was and it wasn’t walkable.
She was obviously being hyperbolic, still no excuse for how she was treated...
Something about ice spice is off…like idk she seems very awkward and strange when it comes to communicating and having normal relationships whether that be platonic or romantic.
I've never heard of Cleo but I like her!
Do not do any favors for your rich friends lmao. They can afford to pay for their promotion and PR, let them, especially if they are barely doing you any favors in return.
49:15 “we added another tour bus. We had extra room” YET YOU DIDN’T LET HER BRING HER ASSISTANT ALONG “CAUSE THERE IS NO ROOM”
Been missing your videos glad you’re back
im not having a good day i just found out me and ice have the same birthday
0 views in 14s austin fell off 😭🙏
Totally 😭😭😭
And? You have more views?
@@Lietotajvards9it’s a joke
Hate to see it happen😭
fr gang 😭
Do ice spice and her manager share a brain because he sounds just like her like down to them both using the same goofy ass phrases 😂
Cleo is embarrasing herself. Huge ego herself
Her name reminds me of when i called my blog Bohemian Trhapsody😂❤
The type of person who thinks all internships should be unpaid
Cleotrapa is right. She would have been egged on if she brought these things up during the tour.
Tbh, i have never liked Ice Spice, never heard her music or her voice or anything like that, but i never liked her, i always had a bad feeling about her.
In the beginning I thought she was cute and just minding her business but now she’s getting very old
And doing the old things she’s done isn’t even helping anymore. Old washed up trend going down
Azalea was actually funny when she said Iceburg Paprika was aging like milk 😂
Not now babes Austin Green just posted
Fame will consentrate who you are as a person. Good people stay himble and give back. A bad person will become entitled and the worst people.
I really hope her bf Ryatt(?) Is an ex now because he needs to get out. Abuse is unacceptable period, and the fact that it is dissmissed because hes a man is disgusting. If the roles were reversed the reaction would be so different and that is unacceptable. It doesnt matter someones gender or identity abuse should put you in jail asap, period.
Riot**😅 but who even really knows what’s going with that.
@Boohurghhoo lol whatever his name is I hope he's out and never looks back
how did u know i just watched a video abt why y2k flopped …
She needs to change her stage name from Ice Spice to HIstronic Narissicst Passive-Aggresive Spice.
I watch your videos because I like to hear your opinion. I can go watch the tiktoks myself...
Phew im so happy i dont need to know new slang words. I just learned what cap means and i feel ten centuries behind now. I dont know where to find the new updated kid dictionary for slang words. Due to my autism its hard for me to learn them than just as i think i got a handle on it, theres a new book to learn. 😢 hootenanny still stumps me.
WHEN SHE LITERALLY HAD RHE MONEY FOR FOOD
Yeahhh, she needs some help. A lot of help. You would think she would of treated her like gold. Did she think she wouldn’t have said anything? That’s insane thinking.
Ice spice looks like she has messy farts.
Hot Cheeto farts
WE ARE SO BACK???
The bass in the background checks out
New subscriber ! ❤
Do you know how a tour bus looks? Like a Slave Ship. Very similar to a Slave Ship… 😂😂😂 I DIED 32:38
Since when does coming from money something to be proud of. Why shit on someone for being poor before they got famous
this was their miami trip honestly
Really😂😂
Her teeth are perfect ...u know she telling the truth cause she is just rolling it out without pausing ... cause it's the truth 😢😢.. I had to laugh when she talks about uber eats 😂😂😂..
Nearly this entire video is just Cleo talking? I think hearing more input from you would be better
Agreed. I couldn't watch- it's just Cleo's vids lol.
he's so lazy imo, he likes easy content
@@yeahyeah3013 That shows you can't please everybody. Cuz I actually really like how he doesn't give too much commentary but just compiles/presents the info and lets us draw our own conclusions.
@@yeahyeah3013 because it's her side to the story. She is the one that knows what happend. Let her speak. Austin is not a typical commentary channel
@@thebestgirl1545 I also liked hearing her talk, but it's very questionable if large chunks of this video even qualify as fair use at this point. It's not like he has a video sponsor, but still it's not a good practice to get into as a commentary creator
This is why I no longer feel shame for not having friends. A lot of friendships between women look just like this and I also would’ve left on the first red flag. The signs be there ladies!!!
Ice is a grown woman rapping about poop all the time and people expected that she wasnt going to be a weirdo? 🤦♀️ Someone who says everyone is jealous of them is super insecure and jealous of those people...but Cleo acting like she owns mini skirts and chunky boots is wild tho
Cleo’s not acting like she owns mini skirts and chunky boots..😑 tft that’s what you concluded instead of actually realizing what was said.. person a has a totally different “style” than person b. Person b comes on the radar, now in verbatim fashion person a is styling just like person b-ofc it would make them backtrack, make it odd, it’s not that hard to catch.
@@Boohurghhoo like HELLOOO.. 50 min video with all this context LOL
I would have gone home after the Philly incident that’s a 2hour drive max. Yall are not going to invite me somewhere for them to treat me badly
idk man i don't like ice spice but I realllllllly don't like Azalea Banks unless she's made a huge 180 in her own bullshit
✨️ Love your videos! They keep me up to date, so I can talk to my friends about it. :) ✨️
Oml she is Gaston
THERE WAS ICE SPICE DRAMA????
there was drama the day she was born
As usual and it's gonna go on until she's dead 😬💀
My heart breaks for her
Nah Isis is for sure cooked, but the real loser in all of this is Central Cee’s ex. 😭😭 Sorry girl but he won that round.
i didnt realize i was so early i just opened youtube 😊
Upsetting news, I’m the same age as ice spice😔
UA-cam sucks yo. Anything online happens that’s the only thing UA-camrs post about for 2-4 weeks, the same damn video like come on!!!
mainly because they need money or they just want likes and views. 😭