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Her saying they paid 10,000 for the tanzanite is so misleading. They paid $10,000 for the shaman blessing/retreat and got the tanzanite for free at the end. And there is no way they didn't know this when they paid for the retreat. Also, I have a hard time sympathizing with anyone who blew their life savings on a freaking retreat!
My feelings on the situation are soley dependent on whether or not that 10,000 was paid for the retreat or the rick itself. Because it doesn’t matter if the rick is worth only a dollar in raw materials-if they paid 10,000 for it and it was ruined by someone then that person owes them 10,000 dollars. Now if the 10,000 was actually spent on the retreat as a whole like you say then they can blow that amount out their arse. But it still depends. Do you have any confirmation whether or not that was paid for the crystal or the retreat.
@@billyford2262 they lost a rock that was worth few hundred dollars doesn't matter how much they paid for it. They got scammed. The delivery company lost it. The jeweller is not responsible for that. If you have something worth 10k it should be insured. The jewellery company still offered them a ring worth few hundred dollars. As compensation.
I cannot fathom how small that stone is after hearing her say it was the biggest piece of tanzanite she’s ever seen. I thought it was going to be the size of a loaf of bread.
seriously, the way she was talking about adding it to the ring AND making more jewelry with the remainder, I expected it to at least be baseball sized.
I have the suspicion that the 10k was indeed paid for the shaman experience, and not the tanzanite. With how low the jewelers are pricing it, it sounds like the gem could easily be a gift from the excursion rather than a purchase. Their retelling of the story is very manipulative. Extortion is definitely the right word.
I burst out LOL when she said, “so we told him if he didn’t give us $25,000 (the price we decided sentimentality costs, plus a couple grand for the ring… maybe)… that we’d destroy his business… and then he said 🤔we were… blackmailing?… him?” Ma’am. That is exactly what you described.
The fact she didn’t mention the 25k demand tells me a lot, she knew that wouldn’t look great in the public eye. I’m glad actual jewelers came out to talk about their professional opinion, helping break an echo chamber. They definitely got scammed for paying 10k (If they even genuinely paid that much.) and doesn’t want to admit that she was scammed. I can’t imagine how stressed the business owners are. I think the business could have handled this all better as well. Just my opinion though. Have a great week everyone!
I didn't at first, because I don't often take pictures of stuff like that. I always forget! But I don't use social media! She's a musician/influencer, she theoretically should have taken at least a few more pictures of it.
@@SorasShadow1 I'm also kinda poor I guess so that wasn't weird to me either 😭 I didn't even realize jewelry insurance exists. But knowing it does exist and seems to be a standard practice... I totally agree with you!
@@fioregiallo It's actually more shipping insurance than jewelry insurance. Anytime you ship a package it asks how much it's worth, and you can choose whether or not to have it insured, regardless of what it is inside. I've done that when I've crocheted stuff for people and mailed it to them
Why should the jeweler pay her the price she got scammed into? If it’s worth 100 dollars, it’s worth 100 dollars, even if she payed 10k. Honestly seems like she just wants to make her money back from a bad decision
That makes no sense to me. Never has. If it were a car you’d feel different. Somone without insurance hits you. You have low credit and you spent the last five years of your life paying off your first decently nice car (still ten years old and used but decent car) you overpaid because you could only get accepted by a low bank with high interest rate and it’s all you can afford on payments per month. You have kids. You work multiple jobs. You Mr baby your soccer mom car gets t boned and totaled. You ultimately have paid 15,000 for it and had 1000 left to go in payments. (A few months) you’ve paid for five years. The car is is now even more used and five years older than it was already. It has obviously depreciated in value and you were getting ripped off from the start but like I said you were between a rock and hard place and needed transportation and hoped it would help build your credit up too while you were at it. Now that’s all a waste. The person that hit you doesn’t have insurance and didn’t even have any paperwork on their car and tried to run when caught. That person claims they only should pay what the value of the car is now at this money which let’s say is 8,000 TOPS. maybe lower. That would feel like a slap in your face would it not? Idk what the law is on that or how it would work out. Possibly different depending on what state you live in. What am I saying this is the USA of course it’s different depending on the state but my point is on a moral level no matter what I think the person who drove recklessly without even a license or insurance should be forced to pay whatever you paid as long as you can prove you paid that much. It’s only fair it’s only right. It’s justice to me. You should entitled to what you put into it and whatever you paid for something is what you thought it was worth. They shouldn’t be able to say what it’s worth when they are the ones who broke it. And if you can prove it you especially should be reimbursed for it.
@@billyford2262it sucks but even if the person is insured, the insurance company is only going to pay what the car is currently worth, not what you paid for it. That is why gap insurance is a thing.
@@billyford2262I understand this point, but it’s very nuanced. I totally get what you’re saying with the car example. Let’s try a different example. Let’s say you and I go out to dinner and I am wearing a plain white t shirt. Then, during the dinner, you spill red wine on it, a total accident. We try to get it out but we can’t, and you say “I’m so sorry, I’ll buy you a replacement”. And then I tell you that I bought the shirt from a VERY expensive store/brand, and it’s actually a $2,000 shirt. Now, morally, should you replace the shirt? Maybe, but I think you would think it was highly unreasonable of me to request that. I do think at a certain point, you do assume a certain risk when you have these types of things. Should you have been more careful and not spilled the wine? Of course, but it’s also unreasonable of me to expect you to potentially go into debt because I chose to buy and wear a very expensive piece of clothing. I guess all i’m saying is that it’s not always black and white, in my opinion. Maybe that doesn’t apply to this situation or maybe it does, but in my opinion there’s just no one clear answer to that type of thing.
@@billyford2262 sometimes it sucks, but this is how things work. If you kept your whole backstory, but swap places in the scenario, would you want to pay the full price of the car you have hit or just the current market value? It is unreasonable to ask someone to compensate the loss of an asset based on the value it had when purchased, even more so with assets that do get depreciated with time and use.
I just find it very interesting of her to say that the owner seemed very privileged when she came off as very privileged. Especially when you are someone who can spend thousands on a shaman blessing a stone… Edit: did not expect to get this much attention from this comment but thanks yall 🫶🏼
Exactly! Like, sadly, that’s on you, girliepop. You could’ve done some research that would’ve told you that even if it was a giant crystal that some shamans had blessed, there was most likely no way it was worth $10,000 and that you were being scammed
In one sentence she said he was “awful” “privileged” and “did not take accountability” considering her language I feel it was fairly clear she was citing keywords she thought would help her drama bait the situation and review bomb the store. Honestly fairly disgusting behavior
idk, a white person going on and on about paying 10k for a gem stone "straight out of the mines" of Tanzania and blessed by a shaman gives me the ick, tho I do feel bad about her losing her family ring
@@tlowery2074yeah but don’t you realise there’s no sentimental value attached to a Tanzanian child’s life? The jewel _only_ gets sentimental value when it’s purchased by a rich woman lmao.
i bet there’s a term for this but it’s got the flavor of spiritual virtue signaling… i feel like the mines comment is obviously.. weird, because it shows how little someone knows/ cares to educate themselves on real issues happening for people who are OUTSIDE of their sociopolitical status, country, or ethnicity. Having a blessed rock from a shaman can be very cool, but that doesn’t mean you are entitled to share how cool it is that your rock is straight from the mines, without receiving criticism on your character and world views.
@@heartsforbrenda probably the old money? look combined with entitlement and privilege lol i was only listening to the video at first so when she said she and her bf are kind of hippy.... well it wasnt what i imagined lol
Exactly! Like it really doesn’t matter if she paid $10,000 for it somewhere an insurance company would laugh her out of the office without an up to date appraisal
Calling the owner of a small business privileged for not paying you 10k while simultaneously believing "Well I paid 10k for it so therefore it's worth 10k." is actually crazy.
oh my GODDDD not her being a crystal girlie 😭 i work in the gem and jewelry industry, studied geology, and am going to get my gemology degree soon. I dont trust ANYONE who is a "shaman" or into crystal healing to know *anything* about the value or identification of gemstones. Most people in the metaphysical industry know nothing about what they sell. I've worked in several of these stores. Anyone who sells gems to heal you is scamming you. There is no scientific evidence that they can help. Anyone who claims that quartz or whatever can heal your mental/physical illnesses is a grifter no matter how wise or kind they seem. When spending $10k on any stone do your research! Go to a reputable company! There is so much bs out there on the market and trade names get so confusing. Hell, "chocolate" and "salt and pepper" diamonds are trade names to sell low quality diamonds at a premium price. To slander a small jeweler because *you* made a dumb mistake when spending your ENTIRE life savings on a gem you bought from an industry that is notorious for grifting is asinine. It's gross, it's ridiculous, and to anyone in the industry they look like an idiot.
Yeah I can understand if she has a sentimental attachment and wants compensation for the emotional injury of losing the stone. BUT her feelings cannot add thousands of dollars to a low quality rock her boyfriend got scammed into buying by a “shaman.”
to be fair tho shamans are intelligent people. they are spiritual leaders in many indigenous societies across the globe. based of their knowledge of the land they keep people alive and feeling safe. unfortunately white people from the west have attempted to take advantage of this aspect of indigenous culture as well.
I was fucking crying laughing watching the original video where she was explaining how she got her “chakras unblocked” and her “past life ties cut” like oh my god
Real shamans are very trusted and knowledgeable in what they do, but real shamans also wouldn’t hold a retreat for rich white people and sell them a $10,000 stone. It’s worth learning the history about them and how colonization has made people exploit the practice, or forced those who practice to cater to things like this for a living.
@@Ketaminogue that is less weird to me. commentary channels are there to talk about various perspectives for whatever is happening online. It makes sense that if there is tea and drama happening on another platform, they would analyze and talk about it here.
the way she made hand gestures when talking about the tanzanite size to make it seem like a gem was the size of a baseball… girl was embellishing to rally the masses against a small business like crazy
God there are so many insufferable content creators who are so eager to abuse their platform to get whatever it is they think the world owes them. She knew exactly what she was doing: leaving out the actual blackmail she’s committing and gaslighting her audience in order to get them to brigade this poor company’s social media in hopes that she will be able to squeeze some cash out of them. She’s also bizarrely materialistic for such a pseudo-spiritual hippy - you know maybe the tanzanite being lost is just the last stage of healing, surrendering your “lucky pebble” to the universe. Instead she chooses this bizarre victim narrative where she rationalizes bullying a small company as a spiritual endeavor. Gross.
As a super spiritual person, I found it really weird how materialistic she was being as well. She seems more upset about the price than losing sentimental items, which is wild to me.
I understand that she's asking too much money.... But I don't like that the jeweler didn't tell them about losing the ring, didn't answer on time their calls... Yes what they did was stupid, but the jeweler gave a shitty customer service from the beginning... In reddit fashion ESH...
Agree! I dont think shes in the wrong for wanting to be monetarily compensated, but someone should give her a reality check and make her acknowledge she was scammed. $25k is way too much, but I also think she deserves more than just a couple hundred dollars for the poor customer service and poor company practices. Id say the price of the materials + compensation for troubles, compensation for loss of property with sentimental value, compensation for not letting them know straight away.
As to the story. I think it said somewhere in there, that the Fed Ex driver had gotten their package out and ready because it was the next deliver after the one they were on. So the package would have been possibily been visible and therefore an easy grab and that's why only theirs was stolen. The only thing that never gets answers in this, is why the original report to the client was supposedly delated for 2 and half months. But then again, Why did they not at some point just go there and ask in the store what was up. The cleansing would make so much more sense to be 10,000 dollars, and the crystal being part of it, was just given to them after. And they're not having insured this ring themselves in the first place was irresponsible.
Having dealt with shipping companies and "lost" packages, the jeweler may have held off saying anything while the police and FedEx investigated, in the hopes that the package would be found. As to why they didn't insure it themselves, they may not have been able to get insurance on it. If you want something insured, it has to be appraised. A good appraiser would have said that the stone wasn't worth $10,000 (whether they paid that or not, no insurance company is going to insure something for an inflated value just because you paid that scam price for it) and that sentimental value doesn't figure into the actual value of a ring.
Please, please, please - if you have any jewelry or possessions worth money, get them insured! I'm not saying this is their fault, because, often, people aren't taught to do it. When I had my engagement ring professionally cleaned one time, the jeweler told us to take it immediately to be insured. His conviction when he spoke really moved my husband and me to action. This entire situation is a nightmare. I'd be crushed if I were them. Edit: Oop! $25,000 you say...
the fact that she got scammed for the tanzanite and in response tried to scam a small business, meanwhile posting pictures of her private family multi million dollar mansion in Hawaii bc her dad is a billionaire and her bf is a trust fund baby musician. this was a failed publicity stunt to promote his music and scam a small business. why is it always rich people trying to extort honest people who actually work for a living lol
I get the heirloom thing, I can imagine that’s a really emotional thing. But the second you go into shaman blessed rocks being worth $10,000 you lose me, like it’s not their fault you got scammed.
@@Meh_ZAare his comments usually like that ? never heard of him till now and I wanna watch him but Im gonna be annoyed if his comments r like an echo chamber of flawed logic
@@meowlull Markie was reporting on it while the whole thing was unfolding so each video had little bits of the story unlike Austine's full comprehensive video , obviously the comments are going to be sympathetic in the first videos before the Jewlers spoke out . I don't think the comments are an echo chamber of flawed logic but everyone is biased so I guess it depends on the video subject
@@meowlullpersonally I don’t think his comments are a naive echo chamber. I haven’t watched his videos about this topic (because I watched this guys video first lol), but I watch a lot of markies other videos, and usually the commenters are pretty reasonable and make good points/conclusions. Other UA-camrs have a wayyyy worse comment section that makes me not even watch the creator anymore
I personally know a family of Shamans. They make a stupid amount of money. They’re veeery skilled at public speaking and are basically business owners. Very respectable hustle imo.
"The ring was the only thing left to me that didn't get sold." Im sorry the ring was lost but thats her own bad choices and im surprised no one else seems to have picked up that tidbit
1. Both the ring and jem have sentimental value. 2. Try buying what these jewelers describe as "a couple of hundred dollars worth" of jewelry from any of these jewers for a few hundred dollars and come back to report how it went. These jewers talk about the price of raw materisls, but no one sells for the worth of raw materials only.
@@kikiTHEaliensentimental value doesn’t apply when covering market price. That value is only value to the people who owned it, it’s not monetarily valuable.
I haven’t finished the video yet, but it still sucks to lose a family heirloom even if it isn’t worth much monetarily, it could still have a lot of emotional value.
@@milk-ub9zo it depends, if the jewelers were the ones to send out the package, it was their responsibility to get it insured and make sure they're not losing heirlooms that people trusted them with. Suing someone for damages because of lost property isn't extortion. However, given that she doesn't seem to have had insurance on the ring or the gem and has no way to prove their value outside of sentiment... she's probably not gonna get 25k and it's kinda shady that she's bringing this to social media instead of straight to a lawfirm
@minidinocannon4598 and how do you know that? The facts are, thus buisness lost her engament ring and didnt tell her for 2 months. And I believe her. Im not gonna even finish this video bc its insane that people are defending this
@@katc2040 tbh way too much about her story is manipulatively told to believe her on that front, either. the reason people are assuming they didn't even have the ring or stone insured is the lack of pictures or appraisal of their value. a court will not and cannot order payment of that amount with that proof in hand and they simply don't have it outside of the receipt for a themed retreated experience which likely featured the stone as a "freebie" at the end.
These guys are idiots. Some mystic frauds convinced them that he was murdered in a past life and sold them an obviously cheap stone for 10k to "cleanse" him. They fell for a scam and a charlatan. Also, if you have a stone worth 10k, you should OBVIOUSLY get it insured. Especially when handing it off to someone else. They probably would have never been able to get it covered, though, because any insurance company would know it's not worth that.
The stone was free. The $10,000 was for the retreat to “Heal his past life” Total scam and the couple are just idiots with too much money and too much time on their hands, looking for something to make them victims.
love me some internet drama that's actually just the op revealing they're the asshole. this whole thing feels like it would've been a wild ride of an AITA post a few years back, something like "AITA for demanding repayment for a priceless heirloom?" only for all these plot twists to get revealed in the comments over several days. except tiktok has got its hooks in so deep that we know the faces and names of everybody involved.
I get the sentimental value thing but this is the risk everyone has to take when shipping items of sentimental value, it’s impossible to insure them at how much they are worth to you. You can hate a business for loosing or breaking sentimental things but that doesn’t give you the right to extort them.
The cudtomers shipped nothing. They didn't even know their jewelry was being shipped. Why are the customers the ones wjo need to bear the cost of risk of shipping in such case?
@@kikiTHEalien i didn’t want to make my comment too long so I didn’t go into that level of detail but this applies to getting sentimental items altered or repaired too. The same principle stands, no one is going to insure your sentimental items at the sentimental value. The jeweller could have personally damaged her ring and she still wouldn’t have got as much as she asked. They could have insured it and she still wouldn’t have got that much either unless they lied to the insurance company and wrote an inflated value
My father was a geologist and lapidaire (idk the English term, he polished semi-precious stones and mounted it on jewelry). He died in 2023, the lawyers had his possessions estimated. We got absolutely nothing. 1 ton of Jade isn't worth it when brut. And he has MANY square feet of stones. Like 2 big elementary school classes (his atelier was a school). He ALWAYS said to us : there is counterfeit everywhere, don't trust anybody. Don't buy brut stones if you're not an expert, you'll never know how much you can have with the stone. He was in debt (50k€) at the end of his life. His stones never helped him for anything. It's always sad to see your stuff isn't worth money. But it happens really often.
How long it took for the jeweler to reach out to them about the stolen package is a bit weird to me. I don’t really like Chelsea (the boyfriend cameo was super awkward and they should have recorded it better) and she definitely was trying to get way more for the ring but I wouldn’t go to King Jewlers for anything. Especially after Markie’s videos.
I find a lot of rich spiritual people *claim* life isn’t about money, while assigning incredulous value to things they want. It’s like backwards reasoning
If he really spent his life savings on something that is only worth a fraction what he paid, regardless of what kind of value a "shaman" placed on it, then he's way too irresponsible to get married.
I think they should both cry about it, that's the most reasonable thing to do for now. The jewelry guy was kinda irresponsible with the packaging but it wasn't all his fault and he tried to compensate her which is a nice thing to do, he didn't really had to do that. The couple are as bland as a piece of white A4 paper straight outta the printing machine, they were pretty much scammed and are taking "emotional damage" as a new type of money transaction, which is not right. I hope FedEx can compensate both parties with something and the person that stole the package suffer some consequences. That's it. Great video, good tea!
Was it ever addressed as to why they didn't tell them the items had been stolen for 2 months? Also, I don't care what other Jewelers have to say about the company; what do other customers have to say?
As someone who collects crystals and is into crystal healing; I agree with Andrew, the first jeweler. Some stones are great for healing or as meditative aids/foci but just aren’t cut out for jewelry. The upside is that commercial grade crystals are very accessible and you can use them in your own rituals for FREE! Honestly, in my opinion, that tanzanite specimen would’ve been safer and served that couple better on a healing altar or as a meditative focus. They are getting very silly about the tanzanite, the problem with mystical experiences is while you can’t put a price on them, no one else can either; and thus they have to judge based on the material realm, and the material realm says that it’s not a 10k or 25k stone.
I HATE HATE HATE, how she sees no problem with throwing money out of the window ($10K) for something as flimsy as a spiritual experience but then turns around and try to blackmail a random business owner! Her values are 100% upside down. What a quack/fraud.
just because u pay thousands of dollars for something doesn't mean it's worth how much u you payed for it, it just means you got scammed by a shaman. like have these two have never heard of pawn shops or anything? and review bombing a nearly 5 star business and being proud of it? all because they weren't receptive to your extortion attempt? these people are so disgusting, this story really pisses me off
so glad to see someone talk about this lol i keep seeing bits and pieces on my fyp and couldnt make sense of either side, thx for making sense of this situation
In my humble opinion; both parties could've handled this situation so much better. King jewelers sounded unprofessional when initially apologizing for the situation with the missed appointment. I would've been very upset as well. Additionally, 25k is steep and unreasonable to expect from a smaller business for a piece that simply wasn't worth that on the market.
definitely a sucky situation for both parties involved, but v blown out of proportion. sadly, a “good vibes only” mindset does not absolve you from making mistakes and taking accountability; it often seems to be mistaken for looking on the bright side.
This makes me feel bad about the tanzanite ring that was lost during my mother’s death. She had already had it valued, documented, and insured for 4k. It was a sentimental loss, but I realize now it was also an exceptional stone. Pertaining to their situation, a bill of sale is not the same as a gemstone grading report. I completely understand the loss of something sentimental, but if it wasn’t worth anything, then that’s unfortunately as far as it goes in a situation like this. I still mourn the loss of my mother’s ring, but she at least took the right steps to safeguard its value beyond sentiment. I can feel for her, but she’s gone about it completely the wrong way.
@@midgelionhart you are correct on that part, i a agree but you must admit that the girl is suspicious for not saying that she asked 25 k for a basic ring and a dirty looking rock.
both sides messed up lol the tiktoker tried to extort a family business for lost sentimental items. the business neglected to insure the sentimental items. honestly, if a company is working with other people's sentimental, irreplaceable items, then the business should insure them. It's selfish to save money by risking the sentimental items of others bc they don't have high market value. its also scummy to slander and extort a business for 3rd party mistakes, like FedEx messing up and losing the items. i would never work with King Jewelers bc they handled the sentimental items of a customer with such carelessness. but i also don't have respect for the tiktoker who slandered and extorted King Jewelers lol
I really dont think a shaman would even take payment for blessing a stone… she definitely got scammed by fake shamans or lied. Its unfortunate that she lost her family ring but LYING about a business when that isnt going to do anything to get ur ring back is sooo shitty
My engagement ring was $50 on sale, $250 originally. It’s lab grown Alexandrite (had it tested) and is set into silver (because I’m allergic to gold) There’s literally no reason to spend more than $1,000 on an engagement ring. Like, if you want to, cool, but you don’t HAVE to have the most expensive engagement ring to be happy.
Sure the customers suck but the jewelers still lost a ring for two months and didn’t say anything irresponsible I wouldn’t go to the jewelers and I wouldn’t listen to her music
It’s sad that Dawson paid his life savings for that Tanzanite, because it’s gonna be expensive to hire a Lawyer for when King Jewelers files a lawsuit.
Im on the jewelers side except for when he said their family heirloom wasn’t worth much as a way of excusing the fact that they lost it. Obviously she was asking for way too much money but if anyone tried to tell me my family heirloom wasnt worth much to them, id cry
he's saying it like that because she demanded 25k, though. i sincerely doubt anyone who wants to keep their business going would ever, ever say that to a regular client. he's explaining it for the internet too so a bit of bluntness is necessary.
It sucks her things were lost/stolen, but if you pay $10k on a rock, it doesn’t mean it’s worth $10k. If I pay $50k for a used 1995 Toyota Corolla, and it gets totaled, insurance is going to laugh at me if I request $50k. And sentimentally only matters to you, not the rest of the reality.
I've honestly got side eye for *everyone* in this story. Chelsey's silence on the new allegations is certainly suspicious, but how on earth does a completely separate jeweler have all the receipts when he insists he's not friends with King Jewelers? And King Jewelers response to the initial situation was also sus, plus the number of people who have spoken about their own negative experiences with them doesn't paint a good picture for them. I think this is a case of ESH.
I love it how FedEx stealing packages is now so mainstream that we just accept it as part of their daily business and don't even act surprised once we hear 😅... Like "oh fedex stole your package?" Yea that sounds about right
even though Tanzanite is one of the rarest gemstones in the world, with an estimated only 10 to 12 years supply left in the ground, 1 carat is ~10.00mm, which is worth, on the highest end, 800 USD per carat. So if it’s a "large stone" (~50.00mm) it should be, on the high end, worth ~4,000 USD if the engagement ring is fourth generation, let’s say it was purchased in 1955 for the value two months worth of average salary, it would have been 685 USD, 8,045 USD in 2024. so, they most likely lost ~12,045 USD which is more than a couple hundred dollars and less than 25K but they were definitely scammed by the shamans
@@kikiTHEalienI mean what are they supposed to say? You can't 'count' sentimental value, for them it's just materials and it's okay. David did what he could reasonably offer.
Why do all these awful internet phonies have such huge followings? It seems like they’re benefiting in unhealthy ways from the no-friends-irl phenomenon
I feel uncomfortable that she actually told her followers to go after this business. That's not ok and really muddles the issue. The way she went after them is harassment. King Jeweler's needs a PR team or something, don't just take it.
Oh my god not this being so similar to my mother’s own tanzanite insanity drama. Lady had my dad doing back alley cash deals in Zambia for precious purple stones.
Idk about yall, but if I have something THAT priceless and THAT important… I’m just not putting in the mail period. Take it IN PERSON to somewhere you can trust?? As a nurse I also wouldn’t pay 10k on a healing rock either but that’s just me lol
It's why the jeweller did offer to make a ring of an equal value to the one lost. Jewellery Insurance entitles the customer to either have their ring repaired or replaced with a ring of equal value. My feeling is that they didn't insure it because to insure a piece of jewellery, it would need it to be appriased. But appraisal only looks at the craftwork of the ring and stone, and you can see how much in denial Chelsea is that the 10k she spent is actually for the sentimental value than the quality of the stone. Tanzanite is not an expensive stone, and a small unpolished piece of Tanzanite would not even push 100 dollars. 😅
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Her saying they paid 10,000 for the tanzanite is so misleading. They paid $10,000 for the shaman blessing/retreat and got the tanzanite for free at the end. And there is no way they didn't know this when they paid for the retreat. Also, I have a hard time sympathizing with anyone who blew their life savings on a freaking retreat!
Oh wow, I didn't even think about that but that makes sense!!! yikes
this ought to be top comment lol
Definitely was not life savings if they had enough money afterwards to get custom rings.
My feelings on the situation are soley dependent on whether or not that 10,000 was paid for the retreat or the rick itself. Because it doesn’t matter if the rick is worth only a dollar in raw materials-if they paid 10,000 for it and it was ruined by someone then that person owes them 10,000 dollars. Now if the 10,000 was actually spent on the retreat as a whole like you say then they can blow that amount out their arse. But it still depends. Do you have any confirmation whether or not that was paid for the crystal or the retreat.
@@billyford2262 they lost a rock that was worth few hundred dollars doesn't matter how much they paid for it.
They got scammed.
The delivery company lost it. The jeweller is not responsible for that.
If you have something worth 10k it should be insured.
The jewellery company still offered them a ring worth few hundred dollars. As compensation.
I cannot fathom how small that stone is after hearing her say it was the biggest piece of tanzanite she’s ever seen. I thought it was going to be the size of a loaf of bread.
The lies, the lies, the lies!
seriously, the way she was talking about adding it to the ring AND making more jewelry with the remainder, I expected it to at least be baseball sized.
Oh they _absolutely_ look like the sort of couple that would get scammed by people claiming to be shamans lmao.
I have the suspicion that the 10k was indeed paid for the shaman experience, and not the tanzanite. With how low the jewelers are pricing it, it sounds like the gem could easily be a gift from the excursion rather than a purchase. Their retelling of the story is very manipulative. Extortion is definitely the right word.
I burst out LOL when she said, “so we told him if he didn’t give us $25,000 (the price we decided sentimentality costs, plus a couple grand for the ring… maybe)… that we’d destroy his business… and then he said 🤔we were… blackmailing?… him?”
Ma’am.
That is exactly what you described.
The fact she didn’t mention the 25k demand tells me a lot, she knew that wouldn’t look great in the public eye. I’m glad actual jewelers came out to talk about their professional opinion, helping break an echo chamber. They definitely got scammed for paying 10k (If they even genuinely paid that much.) and doesn’t want to admit that she was scammed. I can’t imagine how stressed the business owners are. I think the business could have handled this all better as well. Just my opinion though. Have a great week everyone!
have a good week!
I found it odd that she only had 1 photo of the stone
I didn't at first, because I don't often take pictures of stuff like that. I always forget! But I don't use social media! She's a musician/influencer, she theoretically should have taken at least a few more pictures of it.
her not having more pictures also indicates that they never thought to personally insure these items, which is really weird too
@@SorasShadow1 I'm also kinda poor I guess so that wasn't weird to me either 😭 I didn't even realize jewelry insurance exists. But knowing it does exist and seems to be a standard practice... I totally agree with you!
@@SorasShadow1they didn’t insure since they weren’t actually worth anything lol
@@fioregiallo It's actually more shipping insurance than jewelry insurance. Anytime you ship a package it asks how much it's worth, and you can choose whether or not to have it insured, regardless of what it is inside. I've done that when I've crocheted stuff for people and mailed it to them
Why should the jeweler pay her the price she got scammed into? If it’s worth 100 dollars, it’s worth 100 dollars, even if she payed 10k. Honestly seems like she just wants to make her money back from a bad decision
her entire backstory is a billion bad decisions 😭 girl is paying out the ass for past life regressions and tie cutting like, therapy is cheaper
That makes no sense to me. Never has. If it were a car you’d feel different. Somone without insurance hits you. You have low credit and you spent the last five years of your life paying off your first decently nice car (still ten years old and used but decent car) you overpaid because you could only get accepted by a low bank with high interest rate and it’s all you can afford on payments per month. You have kids. You work multiple jobs. You Mr baby your soccer mom car gets t boned and totaled. You ultimately have paid 15,000 for it and had 1000 left to go in payments. (A few months) you’ve paid for five years. The car is is now even more used and five years older than it was already. It has obviously depreciated in value and you were getting ripped off from the start but like I said you were between a rock and hard place and needed transportation and hoped it would help build your credit up too while you were at it. Now that’s all a waste. The person that hit you doesn’t have insurance and didn’t even have any paperwork on their car and tried to run when caught. That person claims they only should pay what the value of the car is now at this money which let’s say is 8,000 TOPS. maybe lower. That would feel like a slap in your face would it not? Idk what the law is on that or how it would work out. Possibly different depending on what state you live in. What am I saying this is the USA of course it’s different depending on the state but my point is on a moral level no matter what I think the person who drove recklessly without even a license or insurance should be forced to pay whatever you paid as long as you can prove you paid that much. It’s only fair it’s only right. It’s justice to me. You should entitled to what you put into it and whatever you paid for something is what you thought it was worth. They shouldn’t be able to say what it’s worth when they are the ones who broke it. And if you can prove it you especially should be reimbursed for it.
@@billyford2262it sucks but even if the person is insured, the insurance company is only going to pay what the car is currently worth, not what you paid for it. That is why gap insurance is a thing.
@@billyford2262I understand this point, but it’s very nuanced. I totally get what you’re saying with the car example. Let’s try a different example. Let’s say you and I go out to dinner and I am wearing a plain white t shirt. Then, during the dinner, you spill red wine on it, a total accident. We try to get it out but we can’t, and you say “I’m so sorry, I’ll buy you a replacement”. And then I tell you that I bought the shirt from a VERY expensive store/brand, and it’s actually a $2,000 shirt. Now, morally, should you replace the shirt? Maybe, but I think you would think it was highly unreasonable of me to request that. I do think at a certain point, you do assume a certain risk when you have these types of things. Should you have been more careful and not spilled the wine? Of course, but it’s also unreasonable of me to expect you to potentially go into debt because I chose to buy and wear a very expensive piece of clothing. I guess all i’m saying is that it’s not always black and white, in my opinion. Maybe that doesn’t apply to this situation or maybe it does, but in my opinion there’s just no one clear answer to that type of thing.
@@billyford2262 sometimes it sucks, but this is how things work.
If you kept your whole backstory, but swap places in the scenario, would you want to pay the full price of the car you have hit or just the current market value? It is unreasonable to ask someone to compensate the loss of an asset based on the value it had when purchased, even more so with assets that do get depreciated with time and use.
I just find it very interesting of her to say that the owner seemed very privileged when she came off as very privileged. Especially when you are someone who can spend thousands on a shaman blessing a stone…
Edit: did not expect to get this much attention from this comment but thanks yall 🫶🏼
Agreed! Listen if you have $10K for a rock I guess power to you. But…..maybe don’t bring up privilege.
Exactly! Like, sadly, that’s on you, girliepop. You could’ve done some research that would’ve told you that even if it was a giant crystal that some shamans had blessed, there was most likely no way it was worth $10,000 and that you were being scammed
@@erikdaniels0n like i feel like any white person who is talking to shamans is probably just a lil bit privileged 🙈
In one sentence she said he was “awful” “privileged” and “did not take accountability” considering her language I feel it was fairly clear she was citing keywords she thought would help her drama bait the situation and review bomb the store. Honestly fairly disgusting behavior
Right?? She should look at herself in the mirror lol. I guess she was trying to get sympathy from people that aren’t actually privileged.
idk, a white person going on and on about paying 10k for a gem stone "straight out of the mines" of Tanzania and blessed by a shaman gives me the ick, tho I do feel bad about her losing her family ring
my jaw dropped like that’s crazy. straight from the (child) mines of tanzania 🙏😭
@@twobabka right and how much did that child make for digging it up 🤦🏽
@@tlowery2074yeah but don’t you realise there’s no sentimental value attached to a Tanzanian child’s life? The jewel _only_ gets sentimental value when it’s purchased by a rich woman lmao.
You can tell she knows nothing but is 100% convinced she’s enlightened
i bet there’s a term for this but it’s got the flavor of spiritual virtue signaling… i feel like the mines comment is obviously.. weird, because it shows how little someone knows/ cares to educate themselves on real issues happening for people who are OUTSIDE of their sociopolitical status, country, or ethnicity. Having a blessed rock from a shaman can be very cool, but that doesn’t mean you are entitled to share how cool it is that your rock is straight from the mines, without receiving criticism on your character and world views.
Holy crap it was bad already and then the boyfriend stepped in and I want to vomit why are they acting like that 😭
UGH I KNOW. Theres something so off putting about them both.
@@heartsforbrenda probably the old money? look combined with entitlement and privilege lol i was only listening to the video at first so when she said she and her bf are kind of hippy.... well it wasnt what i imagined lol
It gives of so many fake vibes
Not independently insuring your “priceless” items is insane, and irresponsible. I dont have many expensive pieces, but it’s all insured and appraised.
Exactly! Like it really doesn’t matter if she paid $10,000 for it somewhere an insurance company would laugh her out of the office without an up to date appraisal
Yes, but then you are not a scammer!
😂
I know absolutely nothing about them, but as I'm watching I just feel so uncomfortable, never hated a couples vibe so much.
i was not fucking ready for HOW uncomfortable that would make me holy shit
Calling the owner of a small business privileged for not paying you 10k while simultaneously believing "Well I paid 10k for it so therefore it's worth 10k." is actually crazy.
oh my GODDDD not her being a crystal girlie 😭 i work in the gem and jewelry industry, studied geology, and am going to get my gemology degree soon. I dont trust ANYONE who is a "shaman" or into crystal healing to know *anything* about the value or identification of gemstones.
Most people in the metaphysical industry know nothing about what they sell. I've worked in several of these stores. Anyone who sells gems to heal you is scamming you. There is no scientific evidence that they can help. Anyone who claims that quartz or whatever can heal your mental/physical illnesses is a grifter no matter how wise or kind they seem.
When spending $10k on any stone do your research! Go to a reputable company! There is so much bs out there on the market and trade names get so confusing. Hell, "chocolate" and "salt and pepper" diamonds are trade names to sell low quality diamonds at a premium price.
To slander a small jeweler because *you* made a dumb mistake when spending your ENTIRE life savings on a gem you bought from an industry that is notorious for grifting is asinine. It's gross, it's ridiculous, and to anyone in the industry they look like an idiot.
Yeah I can understand if she has a sentimental attachment and wants compensation for the emotional injury of losing the stone. BUT her feelings cannot add thousands of dollars to a low quality rock her boyfriend got scammed into buying by a “shaman.”
to be fair tho shamans are intelligent people. they are spiritual leaders in many indigenous societies across the globe. based of their knowledge of the land they keep people alive and feeling safe. unfortunately white people from the west have attempted to take advantage of this aspect of indigenous culture as well.
@@margonuts Theres a big difference between shamans and “shamans” to be fair
I was fucking crying laughing watching the original video where she was explaining how she got her “chakras unblocked” and her “past life ties cut” like oh my god
Real shamans are very trusted and knowledgeable in what they do, but real shamans also wouldn’t hold a retreat for rich white people and sell them a $10,000 stone. It’s worth learning the history about them and how colonization has made people exploit the practice, or forced those who practice to cater to things like this for a living.
I still can’t get over the fact that people on TikTok call each other out and create exposés for every day personal matters like this lol.
it’s so bizarre!
every day there's a new personal drama that would normally stay between neighbors lol
@@4yoon Right?!?
And then somehow it becomes news? Like 99% of commentary UA-camrs are just stitching together TikTok’s and it’s… just weird.
@@Ketaminogue that is less weird to me. commentary channels are there to talk about various perspectives for whatever is happening online. It makes sense that if there is tea and drama happening on another platform, they would analyze and talk about it here.
The moment she said "blessed by shamans to heal us" I lost all confidence in her credibility lol
exactly
She lost me at "wu wu hippie types"
the way she made hand gestures when talking about the tanzanite size to make it seem like a gem was the size of a baseball… girl was embellishing to rally the masses against a small business like crazy
he knew it was time for me to eat
Same!
I literally ate my dinner while watching this 😭
EXACTLY LMAOO
God there are so many insufferable content creators who are so eager to abuse their platform to get whatever it is they think the world owes them. She knew exactly what she was doing: leaving out the actual blackmail she’s committing and gaslighting her audience in order to get them to brigade this poor company’s social media in hopes that she will be able to squeeze some cash out of them. She’s also bizarrely materialistic for such a pseudo-spiritual hippy - you know maybe the tanzanite being lost is just the last stage of healing, surrendering your “lucky pebble” to the universe. Instead she chooses this bizarre victim narrative where she rationalizes bullying a small company as a spiritual endeavor. Gross.
As a super spiritual person, I found it really weird how materialistic she was being as well. She seems more upset about the price than losing sentimental items, which is wild to me.
To me, these no-talent fakes are influencers; lifestyle / vlogging stuff ain’t real content
I understand that she's asking too much money.... But I don't like that the jeweler didn't tell them about losing the ring, didn't answer on time their calls... Yes what they did was stupid, but the jeweler gave a shitty customer service from the beginning... In reddit fashion ESH...
Agree! I dont think shes in the wrong for wanting to be monetarily compensated, but someone should give her a reality check and make her acknowledge she was scammed. $25k is way too much, but I also think she deserves more than just a couple hundred dollars for the poor customer service and poor company practices. Id say the price of the materials + compensation for troubles, compensation for loss of property with sentimental value, compensation for not letting them know straight away.
I couldn't picture a more perfect match of people to get scammed out of 10K by shamans for a rock
As to the story. I think it said somewhere in there, that the Fed Ex driver had gotten their package out and ready because it was the next deliver after the one they were on. So the package would have been possibily been visible and therefore an easy grab and that's why only theirs was stolen. The only thing that never gets answers in this, is why the original report to the client was supposedly delated for 2 and half months. But then again, Why did they not at some point just go there and ask in the store what was up. The cleansing would make so much more sense to be 10,000 dollars, and the crystal being part of it, was just given to them after. And they're not having insured this ring themselves in the first place was irresponsible.
Having dealt with shipping companies and "lost" packages, the jeweler may have held off saying anything while the police and FedEx investigated, in the hopes that the package would be found. As to why they didn't insure it themselves, they may not have been able to get insurance on it. If you want something insured, it has to be appraised. A good appraiser would have said that the stone wasn't worth $10,000 (whether they paid that or not, no insurance company is going to insure something for an inflated value just because you paid that scam price for it) and that sentimental value doesn't figure into the actual value of a ring.
Please, please, please - if you have any jewelry or possessions worth money, get them insured! I'm not saying this is their fault, because, often, people aren't taught to do it. When I had my engagement ring professionally cleaned one time, the jeweler told us to take it immediately to be insured. His conviction when he spoke really moved my husband and me to action. This entire situation is a nightmare. I'd be crushed if I were them.
Edit: Oop! $25,000 you say...
I thought the ring was a googly eye glued on a metal band at first. 😂
the fact that she got scammed for the tanzanite and in response tried to scam a small business, meanwhile posting pictures of her private family multi million dollar mansion in Hawaii bc her dad is a billionaire and her bf is a trust fund baby musician. this was a failed publicity stunt to promote his music and scam a small business.
why is it always rich people trying to extort honest people who actually work for a living lol
IMO the universe decided that the tanzanite should be somewhere else, so it's karma
Hahaha yes
factor is owned by hello fresh, which doesnt trwat their workers well. they cant afford to eat the boxes they create.
I get the heirloom thing, I can imagine that’s a really emotional thing. But the second you go into shaman blessed rocks being worth $10,000 you lose me, like it’s not their fault you got scammed.
Feel like I'm cheating on Markie by watching someone else talk about this.
Same.
Atleast this comment section has more logic on this topic. Markies comment section drank this girls coolaid not questioning their actions at all.
@@Meh_ZAare his comments usually like that ? never heard of him till now and I wanna watch him but Im gonna be annoyed if his comments r like an echo chamber of flawed logic
@@meowlull Markie was reporting on it while the whole thing was unfolding so each video had little bits of the story unlike Austine's full comprehensive video , obviously the comments are going to be sympathetic in the first videos before the Jewlers spoke out . I don't think the comments are an echo chamber of flawed logic but everyone is biased so I guess it depends on the video subject
@@meowlullpersonally I don’t think his comments are a naive echo chamber. I haven’t watched his videos about this topic (because I watched this guys video first lol), but I watch a lot of markies other videos, and usually the commenters are pretty reasonable and make good points/conclusions. Other UA-camrs have a wayyyy worse comment section that makes me not even watch the creator anymore
I respect the hustle of those shamans she def paid thousands of dollars to tbh
I personally know a family of Shamans. They make a stupid amount of money. They’re veeery skilled at public speaking and are basically business owners. Very respectable hustle imo.
"The ring was the only thing left to me that didn't get sold."
Im sorry the ring was lost but thats her own bad choices and im surprised no one else seems to have picked up that tidbit
Her wig is craaaaaaazy (bad)
All they had to do was Google tanzanite to know the price… big yikes
1. Both the ring and jem have sentimental value.
2. Try buying what these jewelers describe as "a couple of hundred dollars worth" of jewelry from any of these jewers for a few hundred dollars and come back to report how it went.
These jewers talk about the price of raw materisls, but no one sells for the worth of raw materials only.
@@kikiTHEalien Sentimental value does not increase the fair market value. Even if estimates shown are not exact, none of them were close to $10,000.
@@kikiTHEaliensentimental value doesn’t apply when covering market price. That value is only value to the people who owned it, it’s not monetarily valuable.
Love it when tourist get scammed, because girl you were the one who got played like a fiddle, that stone was just cheap
I haven’t finished the video yet, but it still sucks to lose a family heirloom even if it isn’t worth much monetarily, it could still have a lot of emotional value.
Yeah but is it the fault of some jeweller that a package got lost on a fedex delivery and should she extort them
shes literally lying fir attention and money
@@milk-ub9zo it depends, if the jewelers were the ones to send out the package, it was their responsibility to get it insured and make sure they're not losing heirlooms that people trusted them with. Suing someone for damages because of lost property isn't extortion. However, given that she doesn't seem to have had insurance on the ring or the gem and has no way to prove their value outside of sentiment... she's probably not gonna get 25k and it's kinda shady that she's bringing this to social media instead of straight to a lawfirm
@minidinocannon4598 and how do you know that? The facts are, thus buisness lost her engament ring and didnt tell her for 2 months. And I believe her. Im not gonna even finish this video bc its insane that people are defending this
@@katc2040 tbh way too much about her story is manipulatively told to believe her on that front, either.
the reason people are assuming they didn't even have the ring or stone insured is the lack of pictures or appraisal of their value.
a court will not and cannot order payment of that amount with that proof in hand and they simply don't have it outside of the receipt for a themed retreated experience which likely featured the stone as a "freebie" at the end.
its kind of insane that shes proud that people are harassing the jewelers
10,000 for a blessing on a rock and she has the audacity to say the jewelry owner came from a privileged background? so ironic lmfaooo
These guys are idiots. Some mystic frauds convinced them that he was murdered in a past life and sold them an obviously cheap stone for 10k to "cleanse" him. They fell for a scam and a charlatan. Also, if you have a stone worth 10k, you should OBVIOUSLY get it insured. Especially when handing it off to someone else. They probably would have never been able to get it covered, though, because any insurance company would know it's not worth that.
The stone was free. The $10,000 was for the retreat to “Heal his past life”
Total scam and the couple are just idiots with too much money and too much time on their hands, looking for something to make them victims.
That fiance was reeking of privilege
love me some internet drama that's actually just the op revealing they're the asshole.
this whole thing feels like it would've been a wild ride of an AITA post a few years back, something like "AITA for demanding repayment for a priceless heirloom?" only for all these plot twists to get revealed in the comments over several days.
except tiktok has got its hooks in so deep that we know the faces and names of everybody involved.
I get the sentimental value thing but this is the risk everyone has to take when shipping items of sentimental value, it’s impossible to insure them at how much they are worth to you. You can hate a business for loosing or breaking sentimental things but that doesn’t give you the right to extort them.
The cudtomers shipped nothing. They didn't even know their jewelry was being shipped. Why are the customers the ones wjo need to bear the cost of risk of shipping in such case?
@@kikiTHEalien i didn’t want to make my comment too long so I didn’t go into that level of detail but this applies to getting sentimental items altered or repaired too. The same principle stands, no one is going to insure your sentimental items at the sentimental value. The jeweller could have personally damaged her ring and she still wouldn’t have got as much as she asked. They could have insured it and she still wouldn’t have got that much either unless they lied to the insurance company and wrote an inflated value
My father was a geologist and lapidaire (idk the English term, he polished semi-precious stones and mounted it on jewelry).
He died in 2023, the lawyers had his possessions estimated.
We got absolutely nothing. 1 ton of Jade isn't worth it when brut. And he has MANY square feet of stones. Like 2 big elementary school classes (his atelier was a school).
He ALWAYS said to us : there is counterfeit everywhere, don't trust anybody. Don't buy brut stones if you're not an expert, you'll never know how much you can have with the stone.
He was in debt (50k€) at the end of his life. His stones never helped him for anything.
It's always sad to see your stuff isn't worth money. But it happens really often.
How long it took for the jeweler to reach out to them about the stolen package is a bit weird to me. I don’t really like Chelsea (the boyfriend cameo was super awkward and they should have recorded it better) and she definitely was trying to get way more for the ring but I wouldn’t go to King Jewlers for anything. Especially after Markie’s videos.
yea why is no one talking about this?
I find a lot of rich spiritual people *claim* life isn’t about money, while assigning incredulous value to things they want. It’s like backwards reasoning
tbh the second i heard her talk about shaman gems i was sus about her motives 😭
If he really spent his life savings on something that is only worth a fraction what he paid, regardless of what kind of value a "shaman" placed on it, then he's way too irresponsible to get married.
tbh if he spent his life savings on any luxury item shaman or no, he's too irresponsible to get married
threatening the making of a tiktok video in retaliation is so dystopian
I think they should both cry about it, that's the most reasonable thing to do for now. The jewelry guy was kinda irresponsible with the packaging but it wasn't all his fault and he tried to compensate her which is a nice thing to do, he didn't really had to do that. The couple are as bland as a piece of white A4 paper straight outta the printing machine, they were pretty much scammed and are taking "emotional damage" as a new type of money transaction, which is not right.
I hope FedEx can compensate both parties with something and the person that stole the package suffer some consequences. That's it. Great video, good tea!
Was it ever addressed as to why they didn't tell them the items had been stolen for 2 months?
Also, I don't care what other Jewelers have to say about the company; what do other customers have to say?
As someone who collects crystals and is into crystal healing; I agree with Andrew, the first jeweler. Some stones are great for healing or as meditative aids/foci but just aren’t cut out for jewelry. The upside is that commercial grade crystals are very accessible and you can use them in your own rituals for FREE! Honestly, in my opinion, that tanzanite specimen would’ve been safer and served that couple better on a healing altar or as a meditative focus.
They are getting very silly about the tanzanite, the problem with mystical experiences is while you can’t put a price on them, no one else can either; and thus they have to judge based on the material realm, and the material realm says that it’s not a 10k or 25k stone.
I appreciate your input so much. This seems very rational and mature. It sucks that people like her give genuine rational people like you a bad name
If that crystal's purpose was to be ✨healing✨ but yet all of this happened... I hope they take the hint
Flights to Tanzania + lodging + shaman experience + food + souvenirs = $10,000
I HATE HATE HATE, how she sees no problem with throwing money out of the window ($10K) for something as flimsy as a spiritual experience but then turns around and try to blackmail a random business owner! Her values are 100% upside down. What a quack/fraud.
just because u pay thousands of dollars for something doesn't mean it's worth how much u you payed for it, it just means you got scammed by a shaman. like have these two have never heard of pawn shops or anything? and review bombing a nearly 5 star business and being proud of it? all because they weren't receptive to your extortion attempt? these people are so disgusting, this story really pisses me off
so glad to see someone talk about this lol i keep seeing bits and pieces on my fyp and couldnt make sense of either side, thx for making sense of this situation
Oh PERFECT timing for my lunch break 🫶🙏 🎉
In my humble opinion; both parties could've handled this situation so much better. King jewelers sounded unprofessional when initially apologizing for the situation with the missed appointment. I would've been very upset as well. Additionally, 25k is steep and unreasonable to expect from a smaller business for a piece that simply wasn't worth that on the market.
definitely a sucky situation for both parties involved, but v blown out of proportion. sadly, a “good vibes only” mindset does not absolve you from making mistakes and taking accountability; it often seems to be mistaken for looking on the bright side.
I'm three minutes in and I'm just.... There is a lot of vibes going on
Wouldn’t it be better to insure the sentimental pieces? Those are usually the irreplaceable ones.
Their sentimentality can make them priceless
King Jewlers is not a small family business
This makes me feel bad about the tanzanite ring that was lost during my mother’s death. She had already had it valued, documented, and insured for 4k. It was a sentimental loss, but I realize now it was also an exceptional stone. Pertaining to their situation, a bill of sale is not the same as a gemstone grading report. I completely understand the loss of something sentimental, but if it wasn’t worth anything, then that’s unfortunately as far as it goes in a situation like this. I still mourn the loss of my mother’s ring, but she at least took the right steps to safeguard its value beyond sentiment. I can feel for her, but she’s gone about it completely the wrong way.
i saw on my fyp a couple days ago, i realllyyy wanted to stick with her though her story but the whole shaman thing was a pretty big red flag for me😭
“If there’s a shamon that can make a $1000 rock cost $10000 then we really need to find that guy” 😂😂😂
"I don't ever want to think about this jewelry company ever again" 5 seconds later "We will be telling this story for the rest of our lives"
Her chakras are open yet she is so pressed about material items. Someone needs to spend 10,000 at the shamans again😂😂😂
Oh dude you're right! I didn't even catch that
i bet that some of her followers must be feeling scammed lol, she made them harass a business only for her to be exposed days later.
Nah..still shitty that the jewelers didn't inform her earlier on that loss..why TF did they give it to 3rd party..they can't do it themselves? 🤡🤡
@@midgelionhart you are correct on that part, i a agree but you must admit that the girl is suspicious for not saying that she asked 25 k for a basic ring and a dirty looking rock.
both sides messed up lol the tiktoker tried to extort a family business for lost sentimental items. the business neglected to insure the sentimental items. honestly, if a company is working with other people's sentimental, irreplaceable items, then the business should insure them. It's selfish to save money by risking the sentimental items of others bc they don't have high market value. its also scummy to slander and extort a business for 3rd party mistakes, like FedEx messing up and losing the items. i would never work with King Jewelers bc they handled the sentimental items of a customer with such carelessness. but i also don't have respect for the tiktoker who slandered and extorted King Jewelers lol
Honestly best take on this whole thing 👍
Agreeeed
I really dont think a shaman would even take payment for blessing a stone… she definitely got scammed by fake shamans or lied. Its unfortunate that she lost her family ring but LYING about a business when that isnt going to do anything to get ur ring back is sooo shitty
My engagement ring was $50 on sale, $250 originally. It’s lab grown Alexandrite (had it tested) and is set into silver (because I’m allergic to gold)
There’s literally no reason to spend more than $1,000 on an engagement ring. Like, if you want to, cool, but you don’t HAVE to have the most expensive engagement ring to be happy.
Sure the customers suck but the jewelers still lost a ring for two months and didn’t say anything irresponsible I wouldn’t go to the jewelers and I wouldn’t listen to her music
It’s sad that Dawson paid his life savings for that Tanzanite, because it’s gonna be expensive to hire a Lawyer for when King Jewelers files a lawsuit.
Her wig is crazy
OK I THOUFHT IT WAS A WIG I THOUGHT I WAS GOING INSANE LMAO. Bad wig…
why’s this the first time i heard the shaman story 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Im on the jewelers side except for when he said their family heirloom wasn’t worth much as a way of excusing the fact that they lost it. Obviously she was asking for way too much money but if anyone tried to tell me my family heirloom wasnt worth much to them, id cry
he's saying it like that because she demanded 25k, though. i sincerely doubt anyone who wants to keep their business going would ever, ever say that to a regular client. he's explaining it for the internet too so a bit of bluntness is necessary.
I get what you're saying but she weaponizes the "sentiment." I doubt she cares and it only is more disrespectful to her own family imo
The second she talked about a shaman blessing a stone and past lives I knew I wasn't gonna be on her side lol
It sucks her things were lost/stolen, but if you pay $10k on a rock, it doesn’t mean it’s worth $10k. If I pay $50k for a used 1995 Toyota Corolla, and it gets totaled, insurance is going to laugh at me if I request $50k. And sentimentally only matters to you, not the rest of the reality.
Lol yeah... We don't charge insurance on small packages because of the value of them and easier to replace when UPS messes with our stuff.
finally i can eat today
I've honestly got side eye for *everyone* in this story. Chelsey's silence on the new allegations is certainly suspicious, but how on earth does a completely separate jeweler have all the receipts when he insists he's not friends with King Jewelers? And King Jewelers response to the initial situation was also sus, plus the number of people who have spoken about their own negative experiences with them doesn't paint a good picture for them. I think this is a case of ESH.
her paying 10k for a rock and saying the owner was “privileged” is HILARIOUS
I love it how FedEx stealing packages is now so mainstream that we just accept it as part of their daily business and don't even act surprised once we hear 😅... Like "oh fedex stole your package?" Yea that sounds about right
even if she was telling the truth, i trust nobody who gets a stone from a mine instead of a lab. gem mines are 99.99999% employed by actual slaves.
even though Tanzanite is one of the rarest gemstones in the world, with an estimated only 10 to 12 years supply left in the ground, 1 carat is ~10.00mm, which is worth, on the highest end, 800 USD per carat. So if it’s a "large stone" (~50.00mm) it should be, on the high end, worth ~4,000 USD
if the engagement ring is fourth generation, let’s say it was purchased in 1955 for the value two months worth of average salary, it would have been 685 USD, 8,045 USD in 2024.
so, they most likely lost ~12,045 USD which is more than a couple hundred dollars and less than 25K
but they were definitely scammed by the shamans
Thank you! The jewelers trying to pass the price of raw materials as the worth of 2 objects with high sentimental value gave me the buggest ick.
@@kikiTHEalienI mean what are they supposed to say? You can't 'count' sentimental value, for them it's just materials and it's okay. David did what he could reasonably offer.
Why do all these awful internet phonies have such huge followings?
It seems like they’re benefiting in unhealthy ways from the no-friends-irl phenomenon
I feel uncomfortable that she actually told her followers to go after this business. That's not ok and really muddles the issue. The way she went after them is harassment. King Jeweler's needs a PR team or something, don't just take it.
She’s ridiculous for asking for that much but the owner not telling her for months that they lost her ring should be a bigger part of this story
I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure in Tennessee you're allowed to sue for sentimental value
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Ok im confused as to why this doesnt have more views, its a MASSIVE plot twist.
Oh my god not this being so similar to my mother’s own tanzanite insanity drama. Lady had my dad doing back alley cash deals in Zambia for precious purple stones.
Idk about yall, but if I have something THAT priceless and THAT important… I’m just not putting in the mail period. Take it IN PERSON to somewhere you can trust??
As a nurse I also wouldn’t pay 10k on a healing rock either but that’s just me lol
This lady "moves on" when her legal backhand extortion was exposed 😂 brah
This enire situation blew my mind with how much it evolved
I cant even imagine how big a 10k tanzanite would be.
The specific tie her boyfriend cut was the tie between his money and himself for a busted ass rock.
My husband is Peruvian…he clearly went into the wrong profession and should have been a shaman.
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I don’t think the customer should be on the hook for the fact that the fucking gem cutter didn’t feel like it was important to insure?That’s unhinged
It's why the jeweller did offer to make a ring of an equal value to the one lost. Jewellery Insurance entitles the customer to either have their ring repaired or replaced with a ring of equal value.
My feeling is that they didn't insure it because to insure a piece of jewellery, it would need it to be appriased. But appraisal only looks at the craftwork of the ring and stone, and you can see how much in denial Chelsea is that the 10k she spent is actually for the sentimental value than the quality of the stone. Tanzanite is not an expensive stone, and a small unpolished piece of Tanzanite would not even push 100 dollars. 😅