@@chifumujmanda7643 The most memorable marking moment of Maradona's career was putting the argentines in the 1986 WC final scoring a scandalous illegal goal with his hand.
Broo messi dives? He's stronger than Ronaldo on one on ones and pushes he can beat people after being pushed down ronaldos power and jumping made him great messi is great there's a difference
If they mentioned Maradona off field problems... they should've mentioned how Pele's never acknowledge his own daughter, despite DNA saying otherwise. On her deathbed her final wish was to see her father.... Pele never went to see her. He was no saint either... but if you speak about Maradona's flaws, mention Pele's as well. Family is above anything... that is why Brazilians prefer Ayrton Senna rather than Pele.
Fred Vasquez The world LOVES to hate on Diego. He’s an easy target because he was a “bad boy” in the public eye compared to Pele (who was far from a saint as you mentioned). The fact remains Pele never carried a prominent EUROPEAN team from 0 to glory like DM did with Napoli, while simultaneously doing it with Argentina in the WC. I get so tired of the anti-Argentine and anti-Southern Italian bias in football, especially from the English lads. FORZA NAPOLI SEMPRE!!! D10S FOREVER!
@@600HP_Camaro you know Maradona didn't carry neither Napoli or Argentina either. Even Maradona who have the biggest ego in the world repeatedly said so
Nice documentary, but you forgot something very important: Diego Maradona was the first important player to fight againts corruption on FIFA's authorities, the same people that now (20+ years after he started to battle against them) are being investigated by justice. And he was the biggest promoter of the first International Syndicate for footballers (the precedent for modern Fifpro). Pele was and always will always be on FIFAs side. All the people who criticizes Maradona talk about the cheating and the addictions and excess in his personal life, but he always used the power of his figure to fight for the ones that couldn't. He never forgot where he came from... And that's a reason why a lot of powerful people attack, dislike and criticize Maradona.
Pele as soon as he heard maradona passed away said it perfectly and has somewhat ended the rivalry by saying that 'one day in heaven we will play together in the same team. and it will be the first time that i will raise my fist to the sky, not to celebrate a goal but because i can finally embrace you again'.
For people who don’t know; at 6:20, Maradona referred to “Senna” as in Ayrton Senna. Ayrton Senna was a Formula 1 driver who won 3 world drivers championships, and was regarded by many at the time (and some still now) as the greatest racing driver of all time. Many described him as having a god given talent unlike anyone before him as he performed many previously unthinkably great feats in his time in F1. He tragically died in a crash at the dark weekend of Imola 1994 but his legacy lives on as many still consider him the greatest Brazilian athlete alongside, or even ahead, of Pelé, as Maradona pointed out in his snide remark.
Senna thought god was really with him and drove like someone who believed they weren’t mortal. I heard that his wheels would be 2 inches tighter on corners than any other driver in F1 history.
@penaldo choking against lazio, ac milan and napoli Zidane carried France by himself? Lol Are you mad? Bartez, Blanc, Desailly, Thuram, Lizerazu, Deschamps, Karembeu, Djorkaeff, Henry. That team was loaded.
@penaldo choking against lazio, ac milan and napoli not sure I agree with that. Barthez had the tournament of his career. Thuram went on to be one of the best defenders in the world and scored two great goals in one game. Lauren Blanc was a great central defender. Desailly was also a top defender. Lizarazu was widely regarded as the second best left back in the world at the time. Deschamps was the Juve captain. Djorkaeff, Pires & Dugarry were no slouches. The only problem they had were strikers who weren't clinical enough at that time but still went on to be world class. I'm not trying to start an argument just offering my point of view in that the France 98 squad was class and even without Zidane would have been one of the favourites in their home tournament. Zidane was on a level above everyone else but that team allowed him the freedom to express himself in front of a world class defensive unit.
The English are insufferable with this shit. If Maradona had had a shit game and the handball goal tied it and Argentina won it on penalties MAYBE they'd have an argument in constantly bringing it up. But no, they won 2-1, Maradona had an outstanding game, and his second goal was kinda good. They need to STFU.
Spot on about the Pele/Garrincha comparison. My mum (she's Brazilian) always told me that is the greatest to ever play was Pele but Garrincha was the player of the people. What a doc this is, great content
Garrincha was better than Pelé. Garrincha and Maradona are the only 2 players in history that pretty much won a World Cup on their own. Garrincha in 62 and Maradona in 86.
Yeah and I'm sure a english mum would say Jack wilshere is the best player of all time & david Beckham is player of people. Pele and gayrincha are most overrated all time
Cruyff was voted 2nd by FIFA 'not Maradona'.The same 3 players were voted by UEFA. 1-MARADONA-2 PELE-3 CRUYFF.Someone has his programme wrong.Eusebio isnt ever voted in a world 11 and only once did he pick up the ballon dor.Maradona didnt pick it up at all.But cruyff picked it up 3 times????????
@@glaswegiansouth-side2350, only Europeans were qualified to win the Balon D'or back then. At some point, they changed the rules so everyone qualified. I believe 'Georgeous George' Weah was the first winner after the rule change.
@@lowanrodrigues, Romario, like Maradona, is a people's champion. Pele is the corporation's champion. That's why Pele makes bizarre statements that make no sense (unless you are aware of this context).
I find the whole ‘They didn’t fulfil their potential’ idea rather infuriating, because it downplays the importance of discipline and mental fortitude to football. ‘If Maradona hadn’t taken drugs’ then he’d have been a different person and a better footballer but he wasn’t. A player’s mental attributes off the pitch are as much part of their footballing talent as their technical skill or creativity
Completely agree. Footballer = Talent + Mentality. You know some people say "I could've made it as a professional"? I am sort of one of them - I played at a championship team's academy but I quit around the age of 14 because the pressure was too much. The physical talent and attributes were there, but the mental fortitude was not. I could never have coped with all the pressure from the fans and coaches! I cared way too much about what the manager thought of me rather than just playing for fun (which is when I played my best football)... so in conclusion I COULDN'T have made it pro, I didn't have the mentality!
Garrincha is worth his own video and to anybody curious his biography by Ruy Castro is some of the most heartwarming and heartwrenching reading I've ever done on football.
Sahala Ihutan Absolutely true bro .I was too little . Now watching the UA-cam videos reveal that Argentina team was extremely Mediocre as other players struggled to convert their Open net chances just like Higuain in 2014 final against Germany 🇩🇪. Just check Argentina Vs Uruguay 🇺🇾 in 2nd round of 1986 World Cup . Plethora of chances missed by the Maradona Mates orchestrated by Maradona. Eventually Argentina 🇦🇷 winning 1-0 but should have been 5-0. Just in the final the Argentina team played well otherwise was a mediocre side . Same was the case with Napoli .
@@drsmart0078 I agree with you bro. Argentina in the past is Maradona + other players. Maradona is the central of the team. In Messi era, Argentina have so many talented players, but they can't play toghether as a team. I hope someday Messi win big Trophy for his country..
@@luisgustavopecanha5507 why blame Diego when a Ref and 2 linesmen gave the goal? Why did Shilton let a man who's tall a metre and a wank overjump him and score?
Pele popularized soccer in the United States when he signed with the New York Cosmos. Yes, they threw a lot of money at him, but he had a lot to lose when it came to his legacy. He was told during his recruitment, "You can sign with Santos and win another league title, or you can sign with the Cosmos and win a nation."
Maybe he meant ‘most wanted’ or ‘most hated’. As he was referencing the hate and criticism and backlash he was receiving from the media and his reactions to the media
Binamra Sharma those were supplements for his growth hormone deficiency. It was for a medical condition, not an addiction or a performance booster🤦🏾♂️
This was such a good video!! Great work, Tifo! But, another thing called my attention during this, the phrase "Brazil is not a country of winners, it's a country of people who like to have fun". As a brazillian, this struck me as a lightning, and indeed that's what we are
Nada a ver, cara. Brasileiro só preza resultado. Tanto que depois que um time perde 3 jogos sobre qualquer condição, já começam a cogitar demissão de técnico, falar que jogador não tem raça.
I mean it is a country of winners lol, that phrase is just coping from people who are jealous of a non-european, global south, south american nation winning way more than them. And Luiz Gustavo is right, Brazilians only care about the results, we only celebrate when we win, that's why we are celebrating all the time, but if we don't win we of course are not gonna celebrate. Gringo é um bicho ingenûo mesmo hein.
penaldo choking against lazio, ac milan and napoli not exactly invent, didn’t he simply took the tricks he had learned from playing in the street and used them on the pro level
@hErO HuNTER GAROU Di Stefano was doing it all before Pele most of the skills you see now have been around way before Pele, its hilarious how Pele fans think football started with Pele.
maradona may be old, addicted and just all around crazy tbh, but at least he warned the world that the rich and powerful would destroy football. i am surprised that you quoted Galeano, way to go Tifo writers!
Different era players. Both geniuses. My dad loved watching Pele when he was growing up but also really enjoyed watching Maradona as an adult. For him, both were amazing to watch but both different style of player. Who was better? Very subjective. For me Maradona was more highly skilled, better dribbler and more inventive. Pele was a better overall player as I have read that he was the reserve keeper for the team before substitutions were allowed and played in goals a few times, help defence a lot plus was more a team player in terms of doing everything on the pitch. This argument will never end. All subjective.
Both way before my time. My dad said he never thought he would see a better footballer than Maradona until Messi came. The documentary titled "Maradona" is a great watch and after watching that made me swing towards Maradona over Pele, although I never watched either
It is not fair to compare players of different eras. All sports became markedly more professional in the 80s and 90s. The players today who work grueling training sessions perfecting their craft under the watchful eyes of expert coaches and physical therapists and dietitians can physically perform at a level that earlier players could never dream of. But those earlier players were more often products of individual genius and inspiration and happenstance -- that they trained themselves to greatness is no small thing to consider.
@Harris Zaindi Pele was a better striker, header, playmaker, ambidextrous...Maradona was a better dribbler and that's it. There's no comparison, Pele way better.
I dont think anyone in Brasil compares Neymar to Messi. We are all Messi and CR fans and know that there is no Brazilian player on that level apart from Pele and R9 before his injuries Great video
It's interesting how there is this animosity between Pele and Maradona (mostly at Maradona's side) while Messi and Ronaldo just really respect each other off the pitch. Also, the greatest "what if" in football history is Ronaldo Fenomeno.
Dude are you blind? The rivalry is mostly on Pele's side. Check the latest years, its always Pele saying he is the best, throwing jabs at Maradona AND Messi. The dude is always comparing himself, talk about an inferiority complex
@@lexa9876 Saying it's the best CR7 also says it over and over again. it's forbidden? I didn't understand your point. For Pele he is the best. Why was Maradona crying?
It's funy how this video portrais Pele as being super chill and humble in his claims, when in reality if you could turn his ego into land, there would be a new continent in earth...
That´s correct. In fact, he once scored a whooping 4 goals against Boca, including an amazing free kick. He was like 17 or something. Its part of why they signed him later.
@@maximilianovazquez9988 So crazy how early the most talented South Americans can shine.. Maradona, Ronaldo, Pelé, were all prodigies before turning 18!
PS: "Probably Pelé was the best. But my mom says I was better" Diego Maradona with a smile on his face. I choose to remember Diego in those moments, when he was at his most loveable, not in his worst. (I agree with Doña Tota, Diego's mom).
Very well put together. I am from Naples. I have a good friend from Rio. We have this debate all the time and we came to the same conclusion. They are exact opposites but equals. They both overcame great economical struggles to become the best in the world for their time. Pele has always had speed and was always in great shape. He had the rhythm of the samba, the Ginga of capoeira, the dance that we all fell in love with, even with the subsequent Brazilian players like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Robinho, Neymar. He was fun and exciting to watch along with the team around him. They refreshed a stale sport that was dominated by European countries. Maradona had alien talent. Nobody knows where his talent comes from. It is completely natural or unnatural, you pick. He was always a fat little slippery eel that pushed the limits to the edge for everything. He looked at it as if he wasn't riding on the edge, life is just too boring to live. As a kid, he would go play ball instead of doing his chores and take the beatings from his dad. That is the Italian in him. He was born with an unconscious ability to control any ball, any size with his feet, predominantly his left. There is a video of him when he was at Napoli juggling a foosball. Platini said, what Zidane can do with a ball, Maradona can do with an orange. Call it a gift from God, call it nature, call it genes, call it what you want, nobody has come along with that type of talent. Not Messi, not Cristiano Ronaldo. Maybe Ronaldinho, and he played futsal as a kid. He had his problems off the pitch as well, still has those problems today but that doesn't make what he did with the Brazilian side and Barca nothing. There are only a few players that played for Barca and were applauded by Real Madrid fans, Maradona and Ronaldinho are among them.
Just came here to pay tribute to a fallen angel of the game. Rest, and find a peace wherever you are now that you were so unable to find on this Earth. What a cruel injustice that you, whose actions brought to life so many, weren’t rewarded similarly. Te amamos Maradona. En vida, y en el muerte.
As a brazilian watching this I must congratulate Tifo for the great research and video on the two biggest legends of South American football. Amazing quality as always.
9:09 I am sorry but this is a huge generalization. To claim brazilians love Garrincha more than Pele because brazilians don't like winners as much is a big reach. Ayrton Senna was one of the most competitive sport professionals ever. I'd argue he is more popular in Brazil than Pelé, and he is way more competitive than Pelé ever was. Senna was the toxic competitive type, he had a big ego and he wanted to win no matter what, on his terms. Some people in Brazil don't like Pelé as much because he is an international superstar, brazilians hate people that pretend they don't know where they come from, people that don't talk a lot about their roots. Regardless, Pelé is incredibly loved here in Brazil, is he worshipped like Maradona is in Argentina? No, but he is up there at the Pantheon.
@Pedro Guedes We agree that he's the best but I would agree that Senna is the most beloved of them all, surely because of his tragic early death. I would go further and say that Zico is the most beloved and respected player in Brazil. By far amongst the players.
I don't think so, Senna is not as popular as he was in the 90's, I'm from just one generation after Senna and he doesn't mean as much for me, specially cuz Brazil is not even relevant in the F1 anymore. Pelé on the other hand is still the greatest after many decades that he stopped playing, I mean dude is one of the post cards of Brazil aside with Tom Jobim's Garota de Ipanema and Jorge Ben's Mas que Nada.
Maradona 53.6% Pele 18.5% What more needs to be said? Pele didnt win 3 WCs, he won 2. In 1962 he was injured and played 77 minutes in the opening match and no more.
@@akdakda ye its kinda hard to believe these few selected journalists had honest intentions when they were selected by FIFA who couldnt be more corrupt
As always tifo never disappoints, with superb writing complemented by appropriate use of graphics, and also not to forget the excellent narration and tones.
Q. Who was a better footballer? A. Maradona was a coke-head. Sums up the comment section up until now. Smh. You can love both, you know. Football wouldn't have been the same without either.
This is my favorite tifo video, as he said, this video is not only about those two players, is about how we build heroes, it's a story bigger than football
I feel like Garrincha and Diego are better ambassadors for the beautiful game despite their off-field antics. People's game should be defined by people's players. ❤️ Legends never die.
REQUEST: Would really like to see you guys revisit Brazil's loss to Germany in the 2014 world cup, what happened pre game, in game and of course the major fallout in the press afterwards.
Yes he did call him that in that meeting in 1978 when they first met, but got to remember maradona was only 17-18 and barely had started his career 2 years earlier. And he was already being compared to Pele not to mention Pele throwing jabs at him all through his career, especially in the 90s when his drug addiction got out of control, i am guessing Maradona just had enough of peles subtle digs.
@@hellowalkman4506 no he isn't to be honest and I'm not justifying him but he from the beginning showed his colors, he's always had a take it or leave it kind of attitude since he was young he always said he didn't care or want to be an example to anybody, he was just the way he was he was as flawed as he was gifted, but he's more open with his character flaws than Pele is. Pele like Maradona also has huge flaws, but he's more careful about keeping his name clean and his reputation intact and with the help of the establishment he does a pretty good job of it. But I don't judge either of them because I believe I am nobody to judge either of them ill leave that to the big guy upstairs but those are just my personal beliefs on the matter.
@@moin6077 not everyone is like that. Some people outdo the people who inspired them but always hold the respect for them as they lead the way for them to follow.
"Pelé only played against farmers" Meet Franz Beckenbauer, shepard from Munich Lev Yashin, mailman Jairzinho, 9 year old "Pelé played when there was no offside rule" This is not true, it was implemented years before his first match "If he was so good why did he never move to europe" At first, He didnt to because the brazilian league was the strongest in the world back in the early 60s. Declined offers from Real Madrid ans AC Milan. Then the dictatorship that governed brazil declared him a living national treasure so that he wouldnt leave. In the mid 70s, he thought about trying new things before retirement and had offers from FC Barcelona and NY Cosmos. Barcelona had more prestige, but pele already won everythibg he wanted and cosmos offered way more cash, so he went to play in the usa where he became somewhat of a Proto David Beckham moving to LA Gakaxy, but way bigger. It'd be like if CR7 decided to go pkay in the MLS. George Best, Franz Beckenbauer, one of the english bobbys from man united (i dont remember if it was charlton or moore)....many stars went on to play in america following his singning. "His goal count is bonkers" Yes it is. He exxagerated the numbers. Lied. But if you count friendlies (which i do for every player from before the 80s), he scoree over 900. Discounting then, almos 700. So yeah, lying about the goal count thing did more damage than good to his image but hes still one of the best free kick tajers of all time, one of the best dribblers of all time.....amazing, complete footbaler. Seriously, instead of just blatanly trying to dismiss him try to watch some videos of him playing. He made eusebio look like an idiot by playing 1-2 with his legs. Scored a hell of a goal in a world cup final at the age of 17. 60 years passed till mbappe broke his record. If you think messi is better, totally fine. Messi is spectacular. But Pelé was 100% world class too, unquestionably top 3 best players of all time.
People need to see this. I think a lot of younger gen (albeit me included) are only used to seeing European leagues at the top. Things were different back then.
@@yourmumscousin It is said that Bojan scored 1000 goals for the Barca youth teams. Probably a more technically gifted player than Pele in all fairness
@Harris Zaindi the paulistao isnt the fourrth tier. And its shite today, but it actually was the most important tournament in brazilian football in the 60s only behind another state champioship, the carioca. They are dead stupid ass farmers league champioships TODAY, but in 1966 every single team in the paulistao had at least 1 player in the seleção. Your Anachronic, poorly researched bs amazes me
The bundesliga started to be organized the way it is today when beckenbauer was already in his mid 20s, much like the brasileirao that only surpassed the Paulistao in terms of importance in 1971. Pele won 2 of those (72 and 74).
@Harris Zaindithe fourth tier waas PAULISTAO C. It included teams like SAINT HERONIMO, ALTO DA PAULISTA and other very weak, local sides. They were the brazilian DAGENGAM AND REDBRIDGE. Pelé never played in thosem
Maradona was by far the better footballer but also a person of extremes and bad choices. From Castro to cocaine. Still the best player of the 20th century.
What a great video. Seriously, I love the topic and how well you approached it. I never got to watch Pelé playing, I can't bring myself to watch old footage, but he must have been something. All I know is Diego and I've been raise to adore him. Lots of kids were named 'Diego' or even 'Diego Armando'. I even had a friend called 'Diego Armando Diez' (Diez = ten) because his father changed his own last name and no one thought that was weird. It does sound weird now, haha.
Both Pelé and Maradona are in my Top 3.. I would rate Pelé slightly higher than Maradona mainly in terms of consistency and longevity...but not many know how clutch Pelé actually was....especially in World Cups.. He has the Most Assists in World Cup History 3 Goals and 3 Assists in 2 WC Finals (Maradona has only 1 assist in 2 WC finals) The most mindblowing fact...He has either scored a goal or provided an assist in EVERY SINGLE WORLD CUP MATCH HE PLAYED....so he was in the scoresheet in every World Cup game....if that isn’t clutch I dunno what is..
penaldo choking against lazio, ac milan and napoli... He only scored 1 goal in the 1962 tournament because he got injured for the rest.. Please don’t tell me you are blaming an injury as a flaw in Pelé’s resume..
penaldo choking against lazio, ac milan and napoli Pelé was out for the rest of the tournament!! He didn’t even play the rest of the 62 WC due to the horrendous injury..
08:54 - Brazilian here: Besides Botafogo supporters and and few images from 1962, most Brazilians have not even seen an image of Garrincha playing. Pelé images on Santos, National Team, and Cosmos are still seen with awe. For Brazilians, Pelé >>> Garrincha in everyway.
@@the-doubting-thomas62 Proportionally, how many goals of 1958 do you see on TV compared to 1962? Equally, 2 to 1, 3 to 1, 10 to 1? And 1970 versus 1962?
There's just no discussion here folks. Pele is clearly the best ever, let's just state the boring obvious stuff first: - Only player to score more than 1,000 goals - Only player to lead his country to 3 World Cups titles - Youngest player to ever score in a World Cup final - Still holds the record of being the top goal scorer of the most successful national team in the world - Only player to never have been eliminated of a World Cup while in the field. Won '58, won '62, got hurt mid tournament in '66 and won '70. We can also talk about how a bloody Civil War in Nigeria was stopped just to see him play, or how in a friendly he received a red card and then the ref was replaced and Pele came back to the field, or how he was voted the most popular sportsman in NY in a time when Joe Namath (American Football legend) still played for the Jets etc... Pele was just light years ahead of anyone at his time, his dominance at the sport is something that's not seen since. Messi is a genius and clearly the best player I've ever seen play (born in 1994 here), but he's not as far ahead of the rest like Pele was. The fact that Pele handled his image better after football better shouldn't count against him and that argument is honestly baseless. Maradona was a genius, my dad says he's the best he's ever seen (born 1971) and he's the greatest player ever of a country stacked with many other amazing talents and that's enough to put him in the pantheon of football legends, but he'll never be Pele and that's ok. Also, Maradona's later career and life is just depressing. He could've carried Argentina to its 3rd championship in 1994 had he not been banned for using illegal substances, he was openly proud of having cheated his way to an Argentine world title in '86, he became a sycophant for left-wing tyrants throughout Latin America and became nothing but an embarrassment for football. Some may say his flaws make him more relatable, sure I can understand that argument but it doesn't make him any better. In the end, there's nothing that supports the arguments for Maradona in a contest against Pele: not the stats, not the silverware and definitely not the behavior.
These debates will never end because you can never really compare players and teams in different eras because of how rapidly technology/fitness/tactics are evolving in the game.
Indeed. By direct comparison, Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi are better than either Pelé or Maradona. But would Pelé or Maradona have been better if they'd been playing now? It's impossible to say.
maradona is the best player all of time and all of players not only pele with very very difference...simple most magician most fantasy most clever ..with little mind of football look it so much... ancient greek mythology and tragody together...never forget u GRANDE DIEGO ..THANKS U FOR ALL..[one fan from greece]
Steve Haha . George Best was a Terrific footballer. I wasn’t even born when he retired . But thanks to UA-cam I can discover his sublime skills . Still , the Best Ever was Diego Armando Maradona. No one even comes closer .
@@drsmart0078 maradonna will only be remembered for his great goal against England, and the one that shouldn't of been...in other words, imo he was a dirty cheating, fat drug taking cheating bastard....bit like Louis saurez, who repeatedly bit opponents & handled the ball on the line to cheat to keep his team in the world cup....and best liked a drink....but was the original superstar of football.
It's because Pelé is the footballer, Edson is the person, Is Just like a alter ego. I know that sounds strange, like a multiple personality disorder, but he do this in speeches and ads. "Here is Edson, not Pelé"
It's interesting that Maradona is always depicted as a Dark Figure, when he was the most human of those superstars (like drug problems or "controversial" political views weren't a thing for common people). But i believe the correct way to see both lives and careers is the opposite way; the people voted for Maradona to be the best, he was the cultural icon of the sport, and people from Argentina and Naples love him for eternity (a sentiment shared by everyone who feels outcast by society). You say Maradona was corrupted and Pele was clean, but who was beside Pele, FIFA, Qatar moguls and President Menem, the most hated and corrupt president in my country. People know very well why the feel for Diego what they feel, and the same for Pele, who was always a mascot for corrupt entities. So, you never know the true face of Pele, whilst Maradona was always (for good and bad) transparent.
Can you make a video on the SaveTheCrew movement and how the entire MLS pitched in to prevent the Columbus Crew from moving to Austin? A great story on how underrated the passion in the MLS is. No I'm not giving up.
Kids who disrespect Pele don't know that he played in vastly harder circumstances, on worse pitches and with worse referring. Mad respect to Maradona too. Both legends.
This is my new favourite channel on UA-cam. I think a videos on the person and footballer Garrincha was would be amazing especially to those who where not around in his era. Keep up the good work :)
I have never seen anyone do what Pele did in 1970, the dummy alone against Mazurkiewicz let alone the volley from the halfway line, the shot from the halfway line against Victor of Czechoslaviaka, Let's not forget the goals in 1958 at 17. As for Maradona, he was a great player his goal against England was due to pitful defending(I would have liked to see him having done the same against Uruguay in 1970.Pele is the greatest,
Its not limited at all, we have footage from all his world cup games and matches playing with Santos in Brazil, even from Garrincha there’s footage in 1958 world cup
Maradona is by far the most talented football player of all time! He was an artist! What he did at Napoli and winning the 1986 will never be forgotten! Legendary
Maradona coming from very poor background put Argentina on the world map. He then goes out of his country to Italy and put Naples on the world map. Maradona was a leader and inspired the whole team wherever he went. Maradona is the greatest ever.
It really shows that this is the European perspective, specially considering them saying Pelé was a "gentleman" who "didn't cheat". Pelé was notorious in South American football for his dirty tactics and rough playing, it's what allowed him to score so many goals in the first place. If anything, and though he was far from honest, Maradona had the more refined playing of the two, being known for a brand of football focused on showmanship and skill, even if his demons got the better of him often.
Yes, he was more creative and unpredictable, but like a trickster. He was famous for playing one-two's off the referees. Pele played in a different era though. Things were very different back then, teams would often try to hurt the opposing team's best player while he was off the ball because there were less cameras, and that was a successful strategy at times, like the way in the 1954 World Cup the Germans hurt Puskas. And I think Maradona would not be caught for doping, even if he snorted a line the length of the Brazilian coastline before every match.
Playing dirty and doing drugs are different plus football was very dirty back then and for your information Pele played a beautiful brand of football with Santos and Brazil
They're both equally good and impossible to compare. Eras were different, play was different, etcetera. Pele stayed in Brazil because Europe wasn't as dominant then. Maradona went to Europe because it was necessary to at that time. They were different times.
"Singlehandedly", subtle but funny.
hahah yeah I caught that too. Brilliant.
Haha I didn't even catch that !
@@mjaceyep110 "caught" it? Sounds like you're carrying on the pun ;)
Anyone willing to explain this to a dummy like me
@@chifumujmanda7643 The most memorable marking moment of Maradona's career was putting the argentines in the 1986 WC final scoring a scandalous illegal goal with his hand.
"The new feud of Messi vs Neymar"
sorry, what? There's a contest there?
Diving contest mate
Broo messi dives? He's stronger than Ronaldo on one on ones and pushes he can beat people after being pushed down ronaldos power and jumping made him great messi is great there's a difference
bloody hell, is this all it takes for an argument over Messi and Ronaldo to start?
@@ssk2113 Nobody is talking about ronaldo mate lmao
@Aryan Sharma even he did, we knew who would win
What a surprising and extremely interesting 10 minute documentary this was, very well put together
If they mentioned Maradona off field problems... they should've mentioned how Pele's never acknowledge his own daughter, despite DNA saying otherwise.
On her deathbed her final wish was to see her father.... Pele never went to see her.
He was no saint either... but if you speak about Maradona's flaws, mention Pele's as well.
Family is above anything... that is why Brazilians prefer Ayrton Senna rather than Pele.
You seem surprised, are you new here?
This is standard on this channel
Fred Vasquez The world LOVES to hate on Diego. He’s an easy target because he was a “bad boy” in the public eye compared to Pele (who was far from a saint as you mentioned). The fact remains Pele never carried a prominent EUROPEAN team from 0 to glory like DM did with Napoli, while simultaneously doing it with Argentina in the WC. I get so tired of the anti-Argentine and anti-Southern Italian bias in football, especially from the English lads. FORZA NAPOLI SEMPRE!!! D10S FOREVER!
@@600HP_Camaro you know Maradona didn't carry neither Napoli or Argentina either. Even Maradona who have the biggest ego in the world repeatedly said so
Nice documentary, but you forgot something very important: Diego Maradona was the first important player to fight againts corruption on FIFA's authorities, the same people that now (20+ years after he started to battle against them) are being investigated by justice. And he was the biggest promoter of the first International Syndicate for footballers (the precedent for modern Fifpro). Pele was and always will always be on FIFAs side. All the people who criticizes Maradona talk about the cheating and the addictions and excess in his personal life, but he always used the power of his figure to fight for the ones that couldn't. He never forgot where he came from... And that's a reason why a lot of powerful people attack, dislike and criticize Maradona.
Nailed it. Perfect comment. Even from this video it is clear that Diego is the man of the people. Pele is the man of the establishment.
You hit the nail straight on the head.
I too prefer Diego over Pelé. But recently he sold out to FIFA, which is just as if not more corrupt than ever...
Finally someone said it!
Pele did always have that militaristic totalitarian side which coincides perfectly with FIFA xD Brasil had a military dictatorship when pele was a kid
Pele as soon as he heard maradona passed away said it perfectly and has somewhat ended the rivalry by saying that 'one day in heaven we will play together in the same team. and it will be the first time that i will raise my fist to the sky, not to celebrate a goal but because i can finally embrace you again'.
Spoken like a true narcissist
Its bs. Pele loves virtue signalling.
@@hamishmurphy3444 Dont cry
@@hamishmurphy3444
You are a good example of a narcissist, i just hread every word 😂
For people who don’t know; at 6:20, Maradona referred to “Senna” as in Ayrton Senna. Ayrton Senna was a Formula 1 driver who won 3 world drivers championships, and was regarded by many at the time (and some still now) as the greatest racing driver of all time. Many described him as having a god given talent unlike anyone before him as he performed many previously unthinkably great feats in his time in F1. He tragically died in a crash at the dark weekend of Imola 1994 but his legacy lives on as many still consider him the greatest Brazilian athlete alongside, or even ahead, of Pelé, as Maradona pointed out in his snide remark.
Senna thought god was really with him and drove like someone who believed they weren’t mortal. I heard that his wheels would be 2 inches tighter on corners than any other driver in F1 history.
@penaldo choking against lazio, ac milan and napoli Zidane carried France by himself? Lol Are you mad? Bartez, Blanc, Desailly, Thuram, Lizerazu, Deschamps, Karembeu, Djorkaeff, Henry. That team was loaded.
@penaldo choking against lazio, ac milan and napoli not sure I agree with that. Barthez had the tournament of his career. Thuram went on to be one of the best defenders in the world and scored two great goals in one game. Lauren Blanc was a great central defender. Desailly was also a top defender. Lizarazu was widely regarded as the second best left back in the world at the time.
Deschamps was the Juve captain. Djorkaeff, Pires & Dugarry were no slouches.
The only problem they had were strikers who weren't clinical enough at that time but still went on to be world class.
I'm not trying to start an argument just offering my point of view in that the France 98 squad was class and even without Zidane would have been one of the favourites in their home tournament. Zidane was on a level above everyone else but that team allowed him the freedom to express himself in front of a world class defensive unit.
CR7 they blew it because it was 10 vs 11. Zidane played with a lot of great players
@CR7 lol I am not sure Jorge Burruchaga , Jorge Valdano are classified as great players who are remembered so much
"single handedly carried his team" I see what you did there
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I mean Thierry Henry also single-handedly destroyed the hopes of an entire nation..
@@ibrah17m Irish guy agrees
The English are insufferable with this shit. If Maradona had had a shit game and the handball goal tied it and Argentina won it on penalties MAYBE they'd have an argument in constantly bringing it up. But no, they won 2-1, Maradona had an outstanding game, and his second goal was kinda good. They need to STFU.
Big Worm but as you said it was a one goal difference. That means that goal meant A FUCKING LOT
Was watching this when I got the news about Pelé. My heart hurts, may these two legends RIP. Football miss you both. Thank you for everything
Spot on about the Pele/Garrincha comparison. My mum (she's Brazilian) always told me that is the greatest to ever play was Pele but Garrincha was the player of the people. What a doc this is, great content
Garrincha was better. Pele was marketed by FIFA...corrupt colleagues of Pele.
Garrincha was better than Pelé. Garrincha and Maradona are the only 2 players in history that pretty much won a World Cup on their own. Garrincha in 62 and Maradona in 86.
Yeah and I'm sure a english mum would say Jack wilshere is the best player of all time & david Beckham is player of people.
Pele and gayrincha are most overrated all time
@@kiinyuum8001 80 % of modern fans never even heard about garrincha,lol
@Tarik Ashmawi I was born in Rio de janerio in Brazil to a Greek dad and Brazilian mum and moved to London when I was very young, still here now
Pele is a poet, when his mouth's shut.
- The legendary Romario
Cruyff was voted 2nd by FIFA 'not Maradona'.The same 3 players were voted by UEFA. 1-MARADONA-2 PELE-3 CRUYFF.Someone has his programme wrong.Eusebio isnt ever voted in a world 11 and only once did he pick up the ballon dor.Maradona didnt pick it up at all.But cruyff picked it up 3 times????????
Romario was great, but an idiot
@@glaswegiansouth-side2350, only Europeans were qualified to win the Balon D'or back then. At some point, they changed the rules so everyone qualified. I believe 'Georgeous George' Weah was the first winner after the rule change.
@@lowanrodrigues, Romario, like Maradona, is a people's champion. Pele is the corporation's champion. That's why Pele makes bizarre statements that make no sense (unless you are aware of this context).
@@cjewe1z Romario said in 1994 in the U.S 'this is going to be 'MY' world cup!!! He aint a peoples champion at all he played for himself
I find the whole ‘They didn’t fulfil their potential’ idea rather infuriating, because it downplays the importance of discipline and mental fortitude to football. ‘If Maradona hadn’t taken drugs’ then he’d have been a different person and a better footballer but he wasn’t. A player’s mental attributes off the pitch are as much part of their footballing talent as their technical skill or creativity
Completely agree. Footballer = Talent + Mentality. You know some people say "I could've made it as a professional"? I am sort of one of them - I played at a championship team's academy but I quit around the age of 14 because the pressure was too much. The physical talent and attributes were there, but the mental fortitude was not. I could never have coped with all the pressure from the fans and coaches! I cared way too much about what the manager thought of me rather than just playing for fun (which is when I played my best football)... so in conclusion I COULDN'T have made it pro, I didn't have the mentality!
@@whitenbald same I was a confidence player, moment pressure got to me everything fell apart.
Players need you, Manners
Absolutely, cause then you could make a case for Balotelli being as good as Pele if only he worked harder
It's more of a statement of speculation rather than comparison. Also some players are just unfortunate though, in case of circumstances like injuries
Garrincha is worth his own video and to anybody curious his biography by Ruy Castro is some of the most heartwarming and heartwrenching reading I've ever done on football.
This channel has a Garrincha video, bro
Fr 💯♥️
Flashback in 1986 World Cup, I saw a man dribbling about 6 players and score a goal. My age 8yr. And after 15yr, I knew the player is Maradona..
Sahala Ihutan Absolutely true bro .I was too little . Now watching the UA-cam videos reveal
that Argentina team was extremely Mediocre as other players struggled to convert their
Open net chances just like Higuain in 2014 final against Germany 🇩🇪. Just check Argentina
Vs Uruguay 🇺🇾 in 2nd round of 1986 World Cup . Plethora of chances missed by the Maradona
Mates orchestrated by Maradona. Eventually Argentina 🇦🇷 winning 1-0 but should have been 5-0.
Just in the final the Argentina team played well otherwise was a mediocre side . Same was the case
with Napoli .
@@drsmart0078 I agree with you bro. Argentina in the past is Maradona + other players. Maradona is the central of the team. In Messi era, Argentina have so many talented players, but they can't play toghether as a team. I hope someday Messi win big Trophy for his country..
Yes but he cheated among other things.
England - Maradona is a cheat and a drug addict, he scored against us with his hand.
Rest of the World - Remember the second goal?
Paul Judkins A hand ball that he champions to this day to claim his GOAT status
So the first goal had no impact on the game ? Stop being a dumbass, dude.
Shilton could have punched the ball instead of flabbing about
@@luisgustavopecanha5507 why blame Diego when a Ref and 2 linesmen gave the goal? Why did Shilton let a man who's tall a metre and a wank overjump him and score?
@@maskerao Still being a dumbass, dude. Referee and linesman could have seen it and just chosen not to give a foul. Still changes the game.
Pele popularized soccer in the United States when he signed with the New York Cosmos. Yes, they threw a lot of money at him, but he had a lot to lose when it came to his legacy. He was told during his recruitment, "You can sign with Santos and win another league title, or you can sign with the Cosmos and win a nation."
I'll put Ronaldo (the Brazilian Ronaldo) and Ronaldihno over Neymar.
Obviously
I'd put Kaka over Neymar as well
Neymar is not a top 5 Brazilian player.
@@tashrif46 yet
I'll put Rivaldo over Ronaldinho
maradona has hilarious turns of phrase. "I will become bin laden"
cocaine is a hell of a drug
What bin laden has done?
"laden" is kind of archaic as a term, when foreigners speak English they do say things that are quite funny unbeknownst to themselves.
Maybe he meant ‘most wanted’ or ‘most hated’. As he was referencing the hate and criticism and backlash he was receiving from the media and his reactions to the media
he's just a dope. literally and figuratively
My kid will be watching the same video conceptually, but Messi Vs Ronaldo
without drugs
@Binamra Sharma you cannot compare having using drugs as a kid because of a birth defect, to Maradona who was addicted to cocaine
Binamra Sharma those were supplements for his growth hormone deficiency. It was for a medical condition, not an addiction or a performance booster🤦🏾♂️
@Binamra Sharma We all have the "drug" in our body. Growth hormones help us grow bud
@Binamra Sharma You have got a point, but it can be used for medical purposes as it wasn't an enhancer
From footballing point of view, i think it's almost impossible to compare two players from two entirely different time period
exactly
You can only really compare how dominant they were in their specific era. But then again not comparing players.. where's the fun it that?
You are right. I think is very hard to compare Ronaldo and Messi, they are different kind of players. Players of different ages is far away harder
This was such a good video!! Great work, Tifo!
But, another thing called my attention during this, the phrase "Brazil is not a country of winners, it's a country of people who like to have fun". As a brazillian, this struck me as a lightning, and indeed that's what we are
you can always do both...have fun and win 5 world cups
Nada a ver, cara. Brasileiro só preza resultado. Tanto que depois que um time perde 3 jogos sobre qualquer condição, já começam a cogitar demissão de técnico, falar que jogador não tem raça.
@@luisgustavopecanha5507 I agree
I mean it is a country of winners lol, that phrase is just coping from people who are jealous of a non-european, global south, south american nation winning way more than them. And Luiz Gustavo is right, Brazilians only care about the results, we only celebrate when we win, that's why we are celebrating all the time, but if we don't win we of course are not gonna celebrate.
Gringo é um bicho ingenûo mesmo hein.
Num fala besteira
Maradona was the first player to make warmups entertaining
penaldo choking against lazio, ac milan and napoli not exactly invent, didn’t he simply took the tricks he had learned from playing in the street and used them on the pro level
@hErO HuNTER GAROU Di Stefano was doing it all before Pele most of the skills you see now have been around way before Pele, its hilarious how Pele fans think football started with Pele.
@@joserivera5007 Pelé was inspired by his idol Zizinho
@@joserivera5007 Really? kkkkkkkk Show to US kkkkkkkkkk
@@buggydclown7724 from where the hell penaldo comes here u 🤡🤡
maradona may be old, addicted and just all around crazy tbh, but at least he warned the world that the rich and powerful would destroy football.
i am surprised that you quoted Galeano, way to go Tifo writers!
What a great quote too
Grande Galeano!
What was the quote?
@@Jp-dq7wq 09:09
Excuse me, football is destroyed? It is better than ever.
Different era players. Both geniuses. My dad loved watching Pele when he was growing up but also really enjoyed watching Maradona as an adult. For him, both were amazing to watch but both different style of player.
Who was better? Very subjective. For me Maradona was more highly skilled, better dribbler and more inventive. Pele was a better overall player as I have read that he was the reserve keeper for the team before substitutions were allowed and played in goals a few times, help defence a lot plus was more a team player in terms of doing everything on the pitch.
This argument will never end. All subjective.
Both way before my time. My dad said he never thought he would see a better footballer than Maradona until Messi came. The documentary titled "Maradona" is a great watch and after watching that made me swing towards Maradona over Pele, although I never watched either
There is no discussion. Maradona is not comparable to Pele.
Maradona isn't a better dribbler than Pele sorry
It is not fair to compare players of different eras. All sports became markedly more professional in the 80s and 90s. The players today who work grueling training sessions perfecting their craft under the watchful eyes of expert coaches and physical therapists and dietitians can physically perform at a level that earlier players could never dream of. But those earlier players were more often products of individual genius and inspiration and happenstance -- that they trained themselves to greatness is no small thing to consider.
@Harris Zaindi Pele was a better striker, header, playmaker, ambidextrous...Maradona was a better dribbler and that's it. There's no comparison, Pele way better.
The last few lines in the docu are so true, rest in peace Diego, you revolutionalized the sport.
I dont think anyone in Brasil compares Neymar to Messi. We are all Messi and CR fans and know that there is no Brazilian player on that level apart from Pele and R9 before his injuries
Great video
Ronaldinho
It's interesting how there is this animosity between Pele and Maradona (mostly at Maradona's side) while Messi and Ronaldo just really respect each other off the pitch. Also, the greatest "what if" in football history is Ronaldo Fenomeno.
I think Marco van Basten is the greatest “what if” in football
Dude are you blind? The rivalry is mostly on Pele's side. Check the latest years, its always Pele saying he is the best, throwing jabs at Maradona AND Messi. The dude is always comparing himself, talk about an inferiority complex
Factos
@@lexa9876 Saying it's the best CR7 also says it over and over again. it's forbidden? I didn't understand your point. For Pele he is the best. Why was Maradona crying?
It's funy how this video portrais Pele as being super chill and humble in his claims, when in reality if you could turn his ego into land, there would be a new continent in earth...
Don't forget Maradona was with Argentinos Juniors before Boca, if I remember correctly.
You're absolutely right.
You’re correct mate
Yea at like 16 I think, he was insanely good lol people couldn’t believe it. Both River and Boca wanted him after that
That´s correct. In fact, he once scored a whooping 4 goals against Boca, including an amazing free kick. He was like 17 or something. Its part of why they signed him later.
@@maximilianovazquez9988 So crazy how early the most talented South Americans can shine.. Maradona, Ronaldo, Pelé, were all prodigies before turning 18!
Before watching, all I can say is “oh no please don’t make this about picking a side”
Edit: was pleasantly surprised
Ok
@@WakaWaka2468 You can't talk about fanboyism, with THAT name.
Pele: "Maradona can't head the ball"
Maradona: "Pele can't hand the ball"
pele could head the balll ridicoluosly good lol
This was one of the most enjoyable, in a way Tifo hadn’t been for a while. Thank you. :)
7:23 scientist have theorised that this is what people see seconds before death
😂😂
Then what does bin laden see
@@mapalozimba2107 The mirror
Whose here after finding out Maradona sadly passed away? RIP 🐐🇦🇷
PS: "Probably Pelé was the best. But my mom says I was better" Diego Maradona with a smile on his face. I choose to remember Diego in those moments, when he was at his most loveable, not in his worst.
(I agree with Doña Tota, Diego's mom).
i stick with stats and records, and research and archives shows Pele is on top of everyone including Messi
@@ordemeprogresso727 It was not the intention of the comment. It was to show that Diego had the heart in the right place, despite his ilness.
@@saidtoshimaru1832
i think that both of these player was overhyped at some point by the media, while Messi seems calm 😂
@@ordemeprogresso727 Messi has managed to keep his head cool, which is kind of amazing these days. He's a very nice person.
@@ordemeprogresso727 Not really, Messi surpass Pele in every aspects of stats, the only thing in that Pele still surpass Messi is in more World Cups .
Very well put together. I am from Naples. I have a good friend from Rio. We have this debate all the time and we came to the same conclusion. They are exact opposites but equals. They both overcame great economical struggles to become the best in the world for their time. Pele has always had speed and was always in great shape. He had the rhythm of the samba, the Ginga of capoeira, the dance that we all fell in love with, even with the subsequent Brazilian players like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Robinho, Neymar. He was fun and exciting to watch along with the team around him. They refreshed a stale sport that was dominated by European countries.
Maradona had alien talent. Nobody knows where his talent comes from. It is completely natural or unnatural, you pick. He was always a fat little slippery eel that pushed the limits to the edge for everything. He looked at it as if he wasn't riding on the edge, life is just too boring to live. As a kid, he would go play ball instead of doing his chores and take the beatings from his dad. That is the Italian in him. He was born with an unconscious ability to control any ball, any size with his feet, predominantly his left. There is a video of him when he was at Napoli juggling a foosball. Platini said, what Zidane can do with a ball, Maradona can do with an orange. Call it a gift from God, call it nature, call it genes, call it what you want, nobody has come along with that type of talent. Not Messi, not Cristiano Ronaldo. Maybe Ronaldinho, and he played futsal as a kid. He had his problems off the pitch as well, still has those problems today but that doesn't make what he did with the Brazilian side and Barca nothing. There are only a few players that played for Barca and were applauded by Real Madrid fans, Maradona and Ronaldinho are among them.
Messi has the same talent
The two comments from the journalists, particularly the one for maradonna, was so quaint and beautiful, i rewinded and listened to it so many times.
Two of the greats of all time. Symbols of excellence and spirit in their respective countries
This was an awesome analogy of rivalry between the two greatest footballers of the last century. Excellently written and neatly narrated.
RIP MARADONA (1960 - 2020)
RIP PELE (1940 - 2022)
Rip my grandpa.. 1964-2023
This Video Was Quality, And Offered Good Insight Into How These Players Were On And Off The Field. Thanks, H Eagan.
They are playing football together now in heaven. rest in peace you both legends. your legacy will move on forever.
TIFO Football never ceases to amaze you.
Analytical, engaging, phenomenal content. Class!
Just came here to pay tribute to a fallen angel of the game. Rest, and find a peace wherever you are now that you were so unable to find on this Earth. What a cruel injustice that you, whose actions brought to life so many, weren’t rewarded similarly. Te amamos Maradona. En vida, y en el muerte.
I already know this is a great video
Who's here after the sad passing of Diego Armando Maradona?
RIP Maradona
And now one of them is gone and the football community mourns collectively. Respect legends while they are here.
As a brazilian watching this I must congratulate Tifo for the great research and video on the two biggest legends of South American football.
Amazing quality as always.
Awesome vid mate another banger 👏
9:09 I am sorry but this is a huge generalization. To claim brazilians love Garrincha more than Pele because brazilians don't like winners as much is a big reach. Ayrton Senna was one of the most competitive sport professionals ever. I'd argue he is more popular in Brazil than Pelé, and he is way more competitive than Pelé ever was. Senna was the toxic competitive type, he had a big ego and he wanted to win no matter what, on his terms. Some people in Brazil don't like Pelé as much because he is an international superstar, brazilians hate people that pretend they don't know where they come from, people that don't talk a lot about their roots. Regardless, Pelé is incredibly loved here in Brazil, is he worshipped like Maradona is in Argentina? No, but he is up there at the Pantheon.
@Pedro Guedes We agree that he's the best but I would agree that Senna is the most beloved of them all, surely because of his tragic early death. I would go further and say that Zico is the most beloved and respected player in Brazil. By far amongst the players.
I don't think so, Senna is not as popular as he was in the 90's, I'm from just one generation after Senna and he doesn't mean as much for me, specially cuz Brazil is not even relevant in the F1 anymore. Pelé on the other hand is still the greatest after many decades that he stopped playing, I mean dude is one of the post cards of Brazil aside with Tom Jobim's Garota de Ipanema and Jorge Ben's Mas que Nada.
Maradona 53.6%
Pele 18.5%
What more needs to be said?
Pele didnt win 3 WCs, he won 2. In 1962 he was injured and played 77 minutes in the opening match and no more.
@@akdakda id rather focus on the vote that was open to everyone than the vote that was between a few select people
@@akdakda ye its kinda hard to believe these few selected journalists had honest intentions when they were selected by FIFA who couldnt be more corrupt
I've never clicked so fast XD
+1
Same
Yep
Me too . Good comment.
Thanks for taking into account one of the greatest voices in Latin America, Eduardo Galeano. Great video, keep it up!:)
A dumb commie, Vargas Llosa ftw
Best Tifo video I’ve seen. And that’s saying something.
This might be my favourite Tifo video yet, this was excellent
As always tifo never disappoints, with superb writing complemented by appropriate use of graphics, and also not to forget the excellent narration and tones.
Q. Who was a better footballer?
A. Maradona was a coke-head.
Sums up the comment section up until now. Smh. You can love both, you know. Football wouldn't have been the same without either.
I love how people who have never played football professionally call meesi or ronaldo or neymar or maradona or Pele not good.
the real issue is some people make a war out of these things. writing comments all day about who is better. just enjoy the game. love football.
This is my favorite tifo video, as he said, this video is not only about those two players, is about how we build heroes, it's a story bigger than football
I've been waiting for this video forever
I feel like Garrincha and Diego are better ambassadors for the beautiful game despite their off-field antics. People's game should be defined by people's players. ❤️
Legends never die.
The answer to the question what Maradona could have been if he was disciplined was answered...
The answer is Messi... he would have been Messi
I answered Pele 😂😂😂but your answer is great also 😂😂😂😂
REQUEST: Would really like to see you guys revisit Brazil's loss to Germany in the 2014 world cup, what happened pre game, in game and of course the major fallout in the press afterwards.
Absolutely outstanding! This is my favourite channel by far, and that's impressive!
This was a phenomenal video👌🏾
Funnily enough, Maradona in his younger days was huge fan of Pelé often referring to him as the GoAT. There are even videos of it.
How times change!
Yes he did call him that in that meeting in 1978 when they first met, but got to remember maradona was only 17-18 and barely had started his career 2 years earlier. And he was already being compared to Pele not to mention Pele throwing jabs at him all through his career, especially in the 90s when his drug addiction got out of control, i am guessing Maradona just had enough of peles subtle digs.
@@joserivera5007 I'm just saying. Also it's not like Maradona was such a nice guy himself.
@@hellowalkman4506 no he isn't to be honest and I'm not justifying him but he from the beginning showed his colors, he's always had a take it or leave it kind of attitude since he was young he always said he didn't care or want to be an example to anybody, he was just the way he was he was as flawed as he was gifted, but he's more open with his character flaws than Pele is. Pele like Maradona also has huge flaws, but he's more careful about keeping his name clean and his reputation intact and with the help of the establishment he does a pretty good job of it. But I don't judge either of them because I believe I am nobody to judge either of them ill leave that to the big guy upstairs but those are just my personal beliefs on the matter.
Come on. I'd do the same if one day I find that I'm actually better than my idol.
@@moin6077 not everyone is like that. Some people outdo the people who inspired them but always hold the respect for them as they lead the way for them to follow.
"Pelé only played against farmers"
Meet Franz Beckenbauer, shepard from Munich
Lev Yashin, mailman
Jairzinho, 9 year old
"Pelé played when there was no offside rule"
This is not true, it was implemented years before his first match
"If he was so good why did he never move to europe"
At first, He didnt to because the brazilian league was the strongest in the world back in the early 60s. Declined offers from Real Madrid ans AC Milan. Then the dictatorship that governed brazil declared him a living national treasure so that he wouldnt leave. In the mid 70s, he thought about trying new things before retirement and had offers from FC Barcelona and NY Cosmos. Barcelona had more prestige, but pele already won everythibg he wanted and cosmos offered way more cash, so he went to play in the usa where he became somewhat of a Proto David Beckham moving to LA Gakaxy, but way bigger. It'd be like if CR7 decided to go pkay in the MLS. George Best, Franz Beckenbauer, one of the english bobbys from man united (i dont remember if it was charlton or moore)....many stars went on to play in america following his singning.
"His goal count is bonkers"
Yes it is. He exxagerated the numbers. Lied.
But if you count friendlies (which i do for every player from before the 80s), he scoree over 900. Discounting then, almos 700.
So yeah, lying about the goal count thing did more damage than good to his image but hes still one of the best free kick tajers of all time, one of the best dribblers of all time.....amazing, complete footbaler. Seriously, instead of just blatanly trying to dismiss him try to watch some videos of him playing. He made eusebio look like an idiot by playing 1-2 with his legs. Scored a hell of a goal in a world cup final at the age of 17. 60 years passed till mbappe broke his record.
If you think messi is better, totally fine. Messi is spectacular.
But Pelé was 100% world class too, unquestionably top 3 best players of all time.
People need to see this. I think a lot of younger gen (albeit me included) are only used to seeing European leagues at the top. Things were different back then.
@@yourmumscousin
It is said that Bojan scored 1000 goals for the Barca youth teams. Probably a more technically gifted player than Pele in all fairness
@Harris Zaindi the paulistao isnt the fourrth tier. And its shite today, but it actually was the most important tournament in brazilian football in the 60s only behind another state champioship, the carioca. They are dead stupid ass farmers league champioships TODAY, but in 1966 every single team in the paulistao had at least 1 player in the seleção. Your Anachronic, poorly researched bs amazes me
The bundesliga started to be organized the way it is today when beckenbauer was already in his mid 20s, much like the brasileirao that only surpassed the Paulistao in terms of importance in 1971. Pele won 2 of those (72 and 74).
@Harris Zaindithe fourth tier waas PAULISTAO C. It included teams like SAINT HERONIMO, ALTO DA PAULISTA and other very weak, local sides. They were the brazilian DAGENGAM AND REDBRIDGE. Pelé never played in thosem
Maradona was by far the better footballer but also a person of extremes and bad choices. From Castro to cocaine. Still the best player of the 20th century.
This is by far the best video you have made. It's brilliant.
This was brilliant, in 10 mins with so much detail.
Pele age 35 to 37, 37 goals in 64 games for New York Cosmos.
Zlatan age 37 to 38, 52 goals in 56 games for LA Galaxy.
And?
Pelé wasn't a centre forward, he was more like a "false 9" when Ibrahimovic is a pure centre forward, what are you talking about?
The Brazilian has more than 700 goals
The Swiss has 400 hahahahah
RIP Diego Armando Maradona 1960-2020
Tifo should do a video on why Pele isn’t a ‘Fraud’
Theo Bromley HITC Sevens have already done one
@Aryan Sharma his CV says otherwise. It is just hard for people to accept.
@Aryan Sharma over rated is a ridiculous term to use to the best player of all time.
If he is a fraud he scored 6 goal in 3 machtes in wc
@Aryan Sharma 14 WC games, 12 goals and 10 assists. Put that in our pipe and smoke it lol
What a great video. Seriously, I love the topic and how well you approached it.
I never got to watch Pelé playing, I can't bring myself to watch old footage, but he must have been something. All I know is Diego and I've been raise to adore him. Lots of kids were named 'Diego' or even 'Diego Armando'. I even had a friend called 'Diego Armando Diez' (Diez = ten) because his father changed his own last name and no one thought that was weird. It does sound weird now, haha.
This is one of my favorite channels. Such great story telling.
Both Pelé and Maradona are in my Top 3..
I would rate Pelé slightly higher than Maradona mainly in terms of consistency and longevity...but not many know how clutch Pelé actually was....especially in World Cups..
He has the Most Assists in World Cup History
3 Goals and 3 Assists in 2 WC Finals (Maradona has only 1 assist in 2 WC finals)
The most mindblowing fact...He has either scored a goal or provided an assist in EVERY SINGLE WORLD CUP MATCH HE PLAYED....so he was in the scoresheet in every World Cup game....if that isn’t clutch I dunno what is..
penaldo choking against lazio, ac milan and napoli...
He only scored 1 goal in the 1962 tournament because he got injured for the rest..
Please don’t tell me you are blaming an injury as a flaw in Pelé’s resume..
penaldo choking against lazio, ac milan and napoli
Pelé was out for the rest of the tournament!!
He didn’t even play the rest of the 62 WC due to the horrendous injury..
Desporto... ???
Does Messi live in your head rent free? 😂
I didn’t even mention Messi you moron 🖕🏻
08:54 - Brazilian here: Besides Botafogo supporters and and few images from 1962, most Brazilians have not even seen an image of Garrincha playing. Pelé images on Santos, National Team, and Cosmos are still seen with awe.
For Brazilians, Pelé >>> Garrincha in everyway.
Brazilian here: you're wrong
Brazilian here: you're wrong²
@@the-doubting-thomas62 Proportionally, how many goals of 1958 do you see on TV compared to 1962? Equally, 2 to 1, 3 to 1, 10 to 1? And 1970 versus 1962?
Wow just watched this video and then the news dropped. So surreal. Rip the legends 🙏
"It doesn't matter what you did with your lives, what matters is what he did for ours."
10min went by quickly. I wish it was longer. What a beautiful documentary. Great narrator! Thanks for sharing that with us.
I wonder whether Football Daily will plagiarize this video as well. Another top video Tifo 👏
Which video have they plagiarised previously? ......
That's funny mate coz it's Tifo who re-write other peoples work.
There's just no discussion here folks. Pele is clearly the best ever, let's just state the boring obvious stuff first:
- Only player to score more than 1,000 goals
- Only player to lead his country to 3 World Cups titles
- Youngest player to ever score in a World Cup final
- Still holds the record of being the top goal scorer of the most successful national team in the world
- Only player to never have been eliminated of a World Cup while in the field. Won '58, won '62, got hurt mid tournament in '66 and won '70.
We can also talk about how a bloody Civil War in Nigeria was stopped just to see him play, or how in a friendly he received a red card and then the ref was replaced and Pele came back to the field, or how he was voted the most popular sportsman in NY in a time when Joe Namath (American Football legend) still played for the Jets etc... Pele was just light years ahead of anyone at his time, his dominance at the sport is something that's not seen since. Messi is a genius and clearly the best player I've ever seen play (born in 1994 here), but he's not as far ahead of the rest like Pele was. The fact that Pele handled his image better after football better shouldn't count against him and that argument is honestly baseless.
Maradona was a genius, my dad says he's the best he's ever seen (born 1971) and he's the greatest player ever of a country stacked with many other amazing talents and that's enough to put him in the pantheon of football legends, but he'll never be Pele and that's ok. Also, Maradona's later career and life is just depressing. He could've carried Argentina to its 3rd championship in 1994 had he not been banned for using illegal substances, he was openly proud of having cheated his way to an Argentine world title in '86, he became a sycophant for left-wing tyrants throughout Latin America and became nothing but an embarrassment for football. Some may say his flaws make him more relatable, sure I can understand that argument but it doesn't make him any better.
In the end, there's nothing that supports the arguments for Maradona in a contest against Pele: not the stats, not the silverware and definitely not the behavior.
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Ok lets just remove that pele lead brazil to 3 wc titles
All those words end when you watch Maradona play. Nothing like it.
These debates will never end because you can never really compare players and teams in different eras because of how rapidly technology/fitness/tactics are evolving in the game.
Indeed. By direct comparison, Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi are better than either Pelé or Maradona. But would Pelé or Maradona have been better if they'd been playing now? It's impossible to say.
@@KindredBrujah or the fact would Messi and Cristiano exist without Pele and Maradona?
This is easily one, if not the best Tifo video I have ever seen
maradona is the best player all of time and all of players not only pele with very very difference...simple most magician most fantasy most clever ..with little mind of football look it so much... ancient greek mythology and tragody together...never forget u GRANDE DIEGO ..THANKS U FOR ALL..[one fan from greece]
Who's the best? "I am, said George"
Steve Haha . George Best was a Terrific footballer. I wasn’t even born when he retired .
But thanks to UA-cam I can discover his sublime skills . Still , the Best Ever was
Diego Armando Maradona. No one even comes closer .
@@drsmart0078 maradonna will only be remembered for his great goal against England, and the one that shouldn't of been...in other words, imo he was a dirty cheating, fat drug taking cheating bastard....bit like Louis saurez, who repeatedly bit opponents & handled the ball on the line to cheat to keep his team in the world cup....and best liked a drink....but was the original superstar of football.
@8:30 **3rd person** .
Unless it’s different in Portuguese
He always spoke in 3rd person. TIFO does not seem to have proof reading...
It's because Pelé is the footballer, Edson is the person, Is Just like a alter ego. I know that sounds strange, like a multiple personality disorder, but he do this in speeches and ads. "Here is Edson, not Pelé"
I really like this video, I think it's one of the better videos from Tifo, Bravo.
This is a very good video. Brilliant work
It's interesting that Maradona is always depicted as a Dark Figure, when he was the most human of those superstars (like drug problems or "controversial" political views weren't a thing for common people). But i believe the correct way to see both lives and careers is the opposite way; the people voted for Maradona to be the best, he was the cultural icon of the sport, and people from Argentina and Naples love him for eternity (a sentiment shared by everyone who feels outcast by society). You say Maradona was corrupted and Pele was clean, but who was beside Pele, FIFA, Qatar moguls and President Menem, the most hated and corrupt president in my country. People know very well why the feel for Diego what they feel, and the same for Pele, who was always a mascot for corrupt entities. So, you never know the true face of Pele, whilst Maradona was always (for good and bad) transparent.
Facts.
Furthermore, pele was egotistical to the core lol, just look at any pele interview.
Can you make a video on the SaveTheCrew movement and how the entire MLS pitched in to prevent the Columbus Crew from moving to Austin? A great story on how underrated the passion in the MLS is.
No I'm not giving up.
Someday, man
Someday...
Kids who disrespect Pele don't know that he played in vastly harder circumstances, on worse pitches and with worse referring. Mad respect to Maradona too. Both legends.
This is a lazy take.
Agreed...Pelé also has either a goal or an assist in every world cup match he has played in..
And with much worse players
Pele played against part time farmers, in the American league, and with no offside rule. Awful take...
You cant win 3 WC in 16 years with farmers.
This is my new favourite channel on UA-cam. I think a videos on the person and footballer Garrincha was would be amazing especially to those who where not around in his era. Keep up the good work :)
What a matchup up in heaven maradona Argentina legends vs Pelé Brazil legends
The Best video Tifo have ever made. Brilliant
I have never seen anyone do what Pele did in 1970, the dummy alone against Mazurkiewicz let alone the volley from the halfway line, the shot from the halfway line against Victor of Czechoslaviaka, Let's not forget the goals in 1958 at 17. As for Maradona, he was a great player his goal against England was due to pitful defending(I would have liked to see him having done the same against Uruguay in 1970.Pele is the greatest,
Capping
Pele is greatly disrespected because most of us didn't get to watch him and there's limited videos of his career
Try watching Escape To Victory lol
Sorry I couldn't help it :-D
Its not limited at all, we have footage from all his world cup games and matches playing with Santos in Brazil, even from Garrincha there’s footage in 1958 world cup
@@miguelfsousa garrincha iits the best brazilian won a world cup of 1962 without pele
1.maradona
2.garrincha
I know. He played WAY before Maradona.
Maradona is by far the most talented football player of all time!
He was an artist!
What he did at Napoli and winning the 1986 will never be forgotten!
Legendary
Maradona coming from very poor background put Argentina on the world map. He then goes out of his country to Italy and put Naples on the world map. Maradona was a leader and inspired the whole team wherever he went. Maradona is the greatest ever.
It really shows that this is the European perspective, specially considering them saying Pelé was a "gentleman" who "didn't cheat". Pelé was notorious in South American football for his dirty tactics and rough playing, it's what allowed him to score so many goals in the first place. If anything, and though he was far from honest, Maradona had the more refined playing of the two, being known for a brand of football focused on showmanship and skill, even if his demons got the better of him often.
Yes, he was more creative and unpredictable, but like a trickster. He was famous for playing one-two's off the referees.
Pele played in a different era though. Things were very different back then, teams would often try to hurt the opposing team's best player while he was off the ball because there were less cameras, and that was a successful strategy at times, like the way in the 1954 World Cup the Germans hurt Puskas.
And I think Maradona would not be caught for doping, even if he snorted a line the length of the Brazilian coastline before every match.
Playing dirty and doing drugs are different plus football was very dirty back then and for your information Pele played a beautiful brand of football with Santos and Brazil
Peel most overrated football player ever an cocaine is not performing advancement an who doesn't get on the lemo
They're both equally good and impossible to compare. Eras were different, play was different, etcetera. Pele stayed in Brazil because Europe wasn't as dominant then. Maradona went to Europe because it was necessary to at that time. They were different times.
I completely agree. Well said mate! : )