Utah gets a bad wrap. They were use to playing USC, Oregon, and Washington each year. So it was a hard transition to the Big XII. But make no mistake, they are glad and excited to be here. The Big XII is the land of opportunity. 2024 is going to be a fun year for football where several Big XII teams are going to be able to shine.
Can definitely appreciate that perspective. I think the problem is that a lot of Ute fans articulate that by shitting on B12 schools. It’s one thing to acknowledge we are lacking traditional CFB blue bloods, but calling us a truck stop conference and G5 league rubbed a lot of folks the wrong way.
B12 players, on all teams, have class and most generally are true to their word. They're loyal. As for stadiums hard to play in, don't forget The Bill (K-State's Bill Snyder Family Stadium). After USC had lost to K-State in Manhattan, Pete Carroll said it was the loudest and most difficult stadium he had ever coached in and he doesn't want to come back. He complimented the fans on being friendly and inviting, but supported their team during the game! Since that game, K-State has added more seating and enclosed both end zones. There have been comparisons to Arrowhead as for as being load and the fans knowing when to increase the volume. Arrowhead West! EMAW
Utah fan here. Historically, Utah doesn't travel well. If they're going to lose a game, it could be OSU. But I wouldn't be surprised if they win there. Because of their awesome defense. OSU's defense was rated around 125th last year. Utah's was around 13th. The more people say they'll lose, the more Utah will focus and be ready for a brawl. That's the game I want to see for sure.
And maybe y'all will travel because its your first BIG 12 road game and it's going to play a huge role in the league standings! Will be an awesome environment.
As a Duck fan I'm excited to see this one as well. I picked Utah to win the BIG12 back when the announcement they were moving there was made. Utah doesn't get the respect they deserve nationally imo.
The good thing about the Big 12 is most of the television markets are still growing and you don't know who is going to win the league in terms of football. It is the most fun conference to bet on.
Josh Pate is one of the rare commenters that seems to actually understand Iowa State. The loyalty between Matt Campbell and the players is something other teams can't comprehend. They are built on loyalty to each other and loyalty to the process.
Man once we start to get that full paycheck from the Big 12 almost 50mil up from 5 mil a year, it's going to be like winning the lottery. When we get our full pay , give it a couple of year with that budget- lights out!!...look at what we're doing without that money. Players are coming to us now and we can't even pay them yet. Go Knights! CHARGE ON!
I’d also add that there is no real significant increase in the SEC and the Big Ten that they don’t already have in terms of number of teams and schools that are going to become added to the top 25 you’re going to see the normal programs whereas the big 12 you already see four programs often ranked in the top 25 well there’s gonna be about 3 to 4 more that are gonna be knocking on that door so I think the number of ranked teams is higher in the big 12
Josh Pate is the College Football coverage Dogg. My Oklahoma State Cowboys for the BigXII Champs and a 12 Team Playoff spot. Don't care about rankings.
I agree. However, we got blown out at home to s bama and lost to Texas in embarrassing fashion. We have to prove it. The hype will come if we win. It always comes down to winning. It’s hard to put faith in us when we struggle to win a b12 chip
It is America’s conference. Almost every game will be competitive down to the wire. Will you watch Ohio state vs Indiana in the 2nd half when the score is 48-0 no you won’t. You’ll be watching Oklahoma state vs West Virginia in the 2nd half with the score 28-21 to begin the 3rd quarter.
Most of the B1G is not stacked like Ohio State or Oregon. Most of the other likely top 15 programs such as Penn State, Iowa, USC, and Wisconsin are not going to boat race most of the schools they play.
@@TheLAGopher Before the BIG added those 4 schools the west division was the biggest laughing stock in power 5 football. The big 10 had a very small middle class. Wisconsin and Iowa are middle class even though I think Iowa is lower middle class. They couldn’t score at the whore house on dollar night. The Big 10 should restructure and kick out all the bottom feeders they have and then I’ll give them some respect. Even with those 4 from the PAC they have some of the worst FBS programs there are. The BIG is more top heavy than a jacked up Jeep lol.
Your comments about Utah’s attitude and how we think we’re going to roll over the Big12? That’s coming from people like you, not the Ute fans. Nice try.
Umm we can all read and have been for the past two years about Utah. It’s pretty obvious what Utah’s attitude has been. Hey man it’s your fan base, embrace it.
Also Utah fan here. I haven't chimed in on this discussion though, at least not much. I just think Utah's style of play fits the B1G more than the Big-12. I'm just happy to have a home...and that's all
Well I guess after Oklahoma and Texas leave calling the big 12 conference America's conference fits because after all the Dallas cowboys are America's team and the big 12 will be winning a championship just as often as America's team
Shhhh!!! Iowa State thrives when they get ignored. The less people respect them now, the more poetic the wins will be come football season. Every yard for I S U!!!!
I guess you could say the big 12 is a bunch of average teams that don't have a prayer of winning it all although you would think America's conference should be the best conference but common sense is not as common as you think
The Big 12 is America’s Conference? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 “The conference” in America is the SEC. At present, five of the top six ranked teams in the AP poll are SEC teams. Utah, the best team in the Big 12 is ranked 10th. The Utes should rise as their remaining schedule has few teams that can challenge them. Meanwhile, the five SEC schools will play multiple games against each other, so they will fall in the poll.
They were asked by FOX to schedule Friday games because Smackdown is moving to USA network. FOX wants Friday night content. The UFL is talking about playing Friday night’s next season.
Americas Conference & Americas Team... both havent won anything since the 90s. Yup Colorado Buffs and Dallas Cowboys. Who is closer to changing the narrative?
It's about 12 freight trains running lose and call the big 12 , american conference, the best conference and the expansion conference, what a joke. The best name is the group 5 or southwest conference. You just lost your best money maker. Your conference has been poach over and over again. It will soon happen again. You guys tal.k a good game but there is no future for the little 12. You dont make enough money to survive. You have 1 to 2 years Brett Yomark can't save you, just rest in peace.
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Love you Josh. Good work
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Utah gets a bad wrap. They were use to playing USC, Oregon, and Washington each year. So it was a hard transition to the Big XII. But make no mistake, they are glad and excited to be here. The Big XII is the land of opportunity. 2024 is going to be a fun year for football where several Big XII teams are going to be able to shine.
You’re the first and only sane Utah fan I’ve seen posting. 🤙
Can definitely appreciate that perspective. I think the problem is that a lot of Ute fans articulate that by shitting on B12 schools. It’s one thing to acknowledge we are lacking traditional CFB blue bloods, but calling us a truck stop conference and G5 league rubbed a lot of folks the wrong way.
Love Josh. He just seems like a fun dude
Great guy!
B12 players, on all teams, have class and most generally are true to their word. They're loyal.
As for stadiums hard to play in, don't forget The Bill (K-State's Bill Snyder Family Stadium). After USC had lost to K-State in Manhattan, Pete Carroll said it was the loudest and most difficult stadium he had ever coached in and he doesn't want to come back. He complimented the fans on being friendly and inviting, but supported their team during the game! Since that game, K-State has added more seating and enclosed both end zones. There have been comparisons to Arrowhead as for as being load and the fans knowing when to increase the volume. Arrowhead West! EMAW
Well said thanks for watching!
Utah fan here. Historically, Utah doesn't travel well. If they're going to lose a game, it could be OSU. But I wouldn't be surprised if they win there. Because of their awesome defense. OSU's defense was rated around 125th last year. Utah's was around 13th. The more people say they'll lose, the more Utah will focus and be ready for a brawl. That's the game I want to see for sure.
And maybe y'all will travel because its your first BIG 12 road game and it's going to play a huge role in the league standings! Will be an awesome environment.
Stillwater is where prima donna teams go to die!
As a Duck fan I'm excited to see this one as well. I picked Utah to win the BIG12 back when the announcement they were moving there was made. Utah doesn't get the respect they deserve nationally imo.
@@TirpitzLuminare Fair insight from a UO fan! Thanks for being here.
Oh no....that's not good coming to the Bounce House - just saying.
The good thing about the Big 12 is most of the television markets are still growing and you don't know who is going to win the league in terms of football. It is the most fun conference to bet on.
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Love Josh Pate, congratulation on getting him on your show!
Thanks he was awesome as expected!
Hope you get time to go to Lubbock!! Lubbock hospitality is a great experience!! Wreck em!!
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Don't sleep on West Virginia this year.
Agree with you on that! Thanks for watching.
Yes on the Mountaineers - going to surprise some folks!!
@@bobbyb.1743 maybe the best 1-2 RB duo in the Big 12?
Country Roads !!
Ohio State and USC alone have had 50 five star players in just the last 10 years. That's huge.
Outstanding and insightful interview.
Josh Pate is one of the rare commenters that seems to actually understand Iowa State. The loyalty between Matt Campbell and the players is something other teams can't comprehend. They are built on loyalty to each other and loyalty to the process.
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For all we know, WVU and Cincinnati meet in the B12 championship, or Kansas and ucf. That's what makes it fun
Good set
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Really hoping Josh goes to Lubbock!!
Josh downplaying the utes means we are winning it all this year lol
Man once we start to get that full paycheck from the Big 12 almost 50mil up from 5 mil a year, it's going to be like winning the lottery. When we get our full pay , give it a couple of year with that budget- lights out!!...look at what we're doing without that money. Players are coming to us now and we can't even pay them yet.
Go Knights! CHARGE ON!
Things are looking up for the Knights!
Good interview
I’d also add that there is no real significant increase in the SEC and the Big Ten that they don’t already have in terms of number of teams and schools that are going to become added to the top 25 you’re going to see the normal programs whereas the big 12 you already see four programs often ranked in the top 25 well there’s gonna be about 3 to 4 more that are gonna be knocking on that door so I think the number of ranked teams is higher in the big 12
And both sets of triplets are all gone Emmitt Troy Michael. OU Texas Nebraska.
All 3 will regret leaving.
@@heartlandcollegesports OU may end up being the Nebraska in the SEC?!?
Josh Pate is the College Football coverage Dogg.
My Oklahoma State Cowboys for the BigXII Champs and a 12 Team Playoff spot. Don't care about rankings.
I like the Pokes this season! -Pete
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OKState returning 85% of its production from the 10-4, Big 12 Championship runner-up 2023 team. Josh Pate never talks about OK ST this year, why?
I agree. However, we got blown out at home to s bama and lost to Texas in embarrassing fashion. We have to prove it. The hype will come if we win. It always comes down to winning. It’s hard to put faith in us when we struggle to win a b12 chip
It is the nationwide hatred of Mike Gundy by the drive-by sports media
@andrewtowne2484 dude, South Alabama was with a 3 rotating qb system, gtfoh, you aren't a Poke
It is America’s conference. Almost every game will be competitive down to the wire. Will you watch Ohio state vs Indiana in the 2nd half when the score is 48-0 no you won’t. You’ll be watching Oklahoma state vs West Virginia in the 2nd half with the score 28-21 to begin the 3rd quarter.
Most of the B1G is not stacked
like Ohio State or Oregon. Most of
the other likely top 15 programs
such as Penn State, Iowa, USC,
and Wisconsin are not going to boat race most of the schools they play.
@@TheLAGopher Before the BIG added those 4 schools the west division was the biggest laughing stock in power 5 football. The big 10 had a very small middle class. Wisconsin and Iowa are middle class even though I think Iowa is lower middle class. They couldn’t score at the whore house on dollar night. The Big 10 should restructure and kick out all the bottom feeders they have and then I’ll give them some respect. Even with those 4 from the PAC they have some of the worst FBS programs there are. The BIG is more top heavy than a jacked up Jeep lol.
Yes it is.
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Americas conference is the sun belt
Your comments about Utah’s attitude and how we think we’re going to roll over the Big12? That’s coming from people like you, not the Ute fans. Nice try.
Look at our mentions. Utes fans are crushing us for not crowing them 2024 champs in May.
Umm we can all read and have been for the past two years about Utah. It’s pretty obvious what Utah’s attitude has been. Hey man it’s your fan base, embrace it.
Also Utah fan here. I haven't chimed in on this discussion though, at least not much. I just think Utah's style of play fits the B1G more than the Big-12. I'm just happy to have a home...and that's all
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Well I guess after Oklahoma and Texas leave calling the big 12 conference America's conference fits because after all the Dallas cowboys are America's team and the big 12 will be winning a championship just as often as America's team
Dude lower the mic , u can’t see your face or bet a better one
Go Cyclones!
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Shhhh!!! Iowa State thrives when they get ignored. The less people respect them now, the more poetic the wins will be come football season. Every yard for I S U!!!!
Can't wait for the Joey McGuire interview!
Colorado fr about to lose to NDSU week 1 😂
GO FROGS 🐸
I guess you could say the big 12 is a bunch of average teams that don't have a prayer of winning it all although you would think America's conference should be the best conference but common sense is not as common as you think
You’re missing the entire point. Not a bunch of mids.
You should lower your mic dude. You don’t has to be touching it for it to work. It’s covering your face
The Big 12 is America’s Conference? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“The conference” in America is the SEC.
At present, five of the top six ranked teams in the AP poll are SEC teams.
Utah, the best team in the Big 12 is ranked 10th. The Utes should rise as their remaining schedule has few teams that can challenge them.
Meanwhile, the five SEC schools will play multiple games against each other, so they will fall in the poll.
So now the BIG has scheduled TWO Friday night games. Copy Cats
They were asked by FOX to schedule Friday games because Smackdown is moving to USA network. FOX wants Friday night content. The UFL is talking about playing Friday night’s next season.
WHY YALL HATE COLORADO SO MUCH EVERYBODY TALKING THIS NOT GOING TO WORK. BUT YOU CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT THEM JUST SHUT UP AND WAIT AND SEE PLEASE.
Americas Conference & Americas Team... both havent won anything since the 90s. Yup Colorado Buffs and Dallas Cowboys. Who is closer to changing the narrative?
That's a TOSS up!
It's about 12 freight trains running lose and call the big 12 , american conference, the best conference and the expansion conference, what a joke. The best name is the group 5 or southwest conference. You just lost your best money maker. Your conference has been poach over and over again. It will soon happen again. You guys tal.k a good game but there is no future for the little 12. You dont make enough money to survive. You have 1 to 2 years Brett Yomark can't save you, just rest in peace.
Pete...i think you misinterpreted what Josh said.
He said the Big12 is like the American Conference....a la AAC.
Booooooo! :-)
@@heartlandcollegesports| I could be wrong..but thats how i took Josh's comments a few weeks ago. 🙂