Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Switch: Great When Docked But What About Portable Play?
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- Xenoblade pushes the Switch's mobile-based Tegra technology hard. It holds up nicely when playing docked, but is this game just too ambitious for portable play?
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"unlike the first two games, xenoblade 2 is focused on narrative"
did you play the first game?
Isn't this like the 7th Xeno game?
MTLVMPR the XenoBLADE part of the series I would assume.
Juan Gonzalez I know. I'm just wondering how many people know about the old games.
Yeap, even Xenoblade X has a lot of narrative. I just think people don’t really know how to play True Ipen World games
I wouldn't really consider Xenogears, or Xenosaga the same as Xenoblade. Since Xenoblade has different mechanics, and a different story. I guess you could consider it the 7th "Xeno" game though.
"Hopefully this is something that can be adressed in a patch."
It's 2020 and no patch :( :(
Yes.. On modded switch just a quick change on some values regarding Anti Aliasing makes the game aloooot better..
Shame also when a 3rd party game like Witcher 3 can come up with a Patch regarding such glaring issues with the graphics enabling options for the player on how the game will look..
I know the decision for such downgrade is for the battery but the option for the consumer will be really handy in the future.
@@vivid8979 indeed, I run mine with the mcable and it helps add back the AA without a hit to the game plus it just looks much sharper. And if you have the newer switch model battery life is less of a concern.
oh sht I'm planning to get this game after playing DE but now I'm having a second thought.
I don't think it's a problem with the game - it's clearly pushing the nintendo's switchs hardware as far as it can. I'd be curious to see how genshin impact actually runs on the switch. So far, all we've seen is breath of the wild and xenoblade both being blurry experiences running at 30 fps or lower. It's not the game's fault - the hardware is just not a ps4 pro or xbox one x. I don't comparing to Mario Odyssey and others is fair - there's way more going on xenoblade chronicles 2. While I wish xenoblade was a 60fps experience, the game is too good not to play because of graphics. It was one of the best games of the year that year, and if not for breath of the wild, I would have made it my person game of the year.
@@mavisiu1387 there was a bug fix patch and a performance patch, even some more content added, just no res boost.
This game is awesome, but it really needs a patch.
chaosthunder Fix the voice sync Nintendo.
Walther Penne
Yea but looks like the problems is in streaming or memory issue something that can be fixed
Walther Penne
Zelda looks the same they did not downgraded it at all and Splatoon they even upgrade the game, you cannot compare Ubisoft to Nintendo, maybe Ubisit disable settings and call it optimisation but Nintendo make sure that the game looks the same or even better over time
CodeNameZ for me on zelda you have even more poping the last update than before
Walther Penne but they can patch the frame rate in some instances (like how the town is sometimes stable 30 but other times low 20)
love this game, played half of the time in handheld, noticing the low resolution, forgetting about it 5 seconds later. this game is just wonderful. even in low resolution it looks good on the small screen, but its just getting impressive when you start playing in docked mode. just brings back memories to how stunned i was playing Xenoblade Chronicles on the Wii and I can say: the developers did it again.
Well I'm playing XC1 for the first time right now ahah after I finish the first one I'll get the second, is the resolution really that bad? I'm playing XC1 in handheld and I don't think the graphics are bad, sure not as crisp as some games but not game-breaking
@@OMGitsZenius 1's sharpening filter is far less aggressive luckily. Improves image quality by a lot.
Most of my 160 hours and counting has been handheld
It's so awesome playing a game this huge portable
I love how Digital Foundry - the tech guys - actually do understand that there is a major distinction to be drawn between artdesign and graphical fidelity when it comes to visual appeal. I wish more of the people yelling about graphics and visuals would get this through their skulls.
Society is very black and white. Never thinking anything in between is possible … unfortunately.
Ah yes because low res shadows bad lod and 480p is my faviroatre art style
Everything wrong with these games visuals is due to things COMPLETELY unrelated to art style
It is dumb to compare a game like this to Red dead 2 or something but it just as dumb to defend the game by saying art style
@@alumlovescake Cool.
Here I am used to playing on PC at 1080p and 144Hz with at least 200+ FPS with all the bells and whistles, and I have basically no issue with the Switch's graphics either. Yes, the game is flawed and on more than just a technical level, but it's still one of the best RPGs I've played in recent memory. My 140hrs and counting save file speaks for itself.
I enjoy the visual feasts provided by several PS4 Pro and Scorpio titles, but have to defend this console and title. I look at the Switch as the most capable portable ever created. The engine and effects were bold and I am sure that future patches and tweaks will fill launch issues that plague most complex titles these days on most consoles.
if it is a portable, why dock
can you fit switch on you pocket
@@arthurcollector4002 Yes you can fit the switch on ypur pocket I thought it was impossible but yesterday I played in a nintendo switch and hell is almost of the same size of an iphone X
But sir. The Steam deck now exists. The switch has lost the title of the most powerful handheld.
I'll finally admit that I don't even have a PC.
Xz3ta a bad name? Yours cannot even be pronnounced
@@IndependentVictor thats why the bad name ma friend .....
That's hilarious. Honestly I respect you if that's true. If you were a legit PC gamer that hates on consoles I'd think you're a loser but if you're just a dedicated troll, I respect it cuz it's funny af
@@XZ-III that's a good thing. PC gamers deserve a bad name. He may be purely a troll but there are many PC gamers that act like he does
I'm a PC gamer and I hate the master race nerds. The master race of gamers is a gamer that cares only about the games they're playing and owns consoles and PC
We all know these fake pc players in reality are just salty sonytards mad that Xbox is better
You forgot to say that the battery life playing this in portable goes up to 5 hours of screen time. Maybe that's the reason of the low resolution on portable mode.
Paulo Victor Cordeiro really? That's not bad at all
Actually really 4:30-5 hours.. of corse you would also have to listen to the switch’s fan the whole time at full power but yeah
It only lasts about 3 for me
ProbyWaN1337 3h for me as well
@@robbinhasseltof4428 its about 3 hours to drop the battery to 20% for me. (on Switch Lite)
Yeah, they could have waited til 2018. I don't think people would've been too mad. That being said, I bought the game, and despite its drawbacks, I'm enjoying it.
Tony Jenn same
XBC2 expansion came out recently and in the interview the lead designer said they used a new rendering engine. From my personal experience playing it, it looked as though it looked better and ran smoother. The lead dev also mentioned the grass, and he's right, it looks a lot better. Can you guys give a technical go to see if the new engine squeezes more out of the already amazing little switch?
Honesty, I'm kind of surprised by the resolution. I was playing on a newer 55 inch 4k TV and the game looked absolutely gorgeous. Strong art direction and smart use of color can make a world of difference. However, I will admit the image quality in portable mode is disappointing.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Never have I used the screenshot button more than in this game. And before this video I swore it was rendering in 1080P with an internal resolution of 900P max, scaling lower when absolutely needed. Docked I have been having a blast with it and couldn't believe it's running on a tiny little tablet.
@@Ponyfox yaeh holly shit I played on a nintendo switch splatoon 2 and dude the switch is almost the same size of an iphone x
I played on 64 in 4k TV and it still looks fine
Mind if I can get the name and model of your TV? I'm looking to buy a new TV.
Your tv probably has upscaling options. I need to get a new one. I play on a 1080p tv, but it has no upscaling, so I notice the 720p. Game still looks fantastic in 2021.
Coming from a happy Switch owner, there's no excuse for the portable performance. Hopefully Monolith Soft works on optimization in future patches
Duelist Mudkip I hope so too.
Walther Penne I don't mean that the game should be running at 1080p 60fps, just that the frame rate drops and the resolution almost hitting 3DS levels shouldn't happen. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is far from the most demanding game out right now, but it has the worst undocked preformance of any AAA game. I think it was slightly rushed to fit the Switches first year, and it'll probably be patched in the coming months
Really should ve 480p 30,not 360...
Sam Tarly
The game is still beutiful, but the apparent memory cahe issue should REALLY be fixed (I can take low FPS but sub-24 is REALLY grating) and as I said should be 480p bottom cap undocked.
jvalex18 um, it kind of is? Even in the video they say the problems likely comes from a glitch with storage. It really isn't excusable.
The game is still amazing, im willing to look through these flaws.
This game is heavily flawed yet I still adore it!
Lol you can't just "fix" something that is effectively a hardware bottleneck
I agree the game is fantastic
FPS is trash at the best of times, the resolution drops but that by no means makes it a bad game
But in terms of enjoyment, easily an 8.5/10
oi
@@TheRealJackGreig not that flawed, sure it has some pitfalls but it still stands up there with the 1st game as one of the best!
@@DavidHosey1 The shonen-ish anime tropes are not for everyone though..
Interesting performance issues. The game still looks wonderful overall though, I have to say. Looking forward to trying it myself sometime in the future.
Gameplay and Talk it's incredible. It's my favorite game.
I have it and it’s amazing. The portable performance did not bother me.
Does the portable resolution suck balls? Absolutely. But, I bought this to play on my commute and I am having so much fun. That being said, this totally can botch some peoples game play experiences, I am just not one of those people. Have fun everyone!
Same . And i still Put hours into the handheld Mode ..leveling characters 1 or 2 hours from my bed
This was one of my most anticipated DF videos, thank you guys!! All I have to say to some of the negative comments is that, when actually playing this game now for many hours. I’m absolutely in love with this JRPG. For me personally this is like a dream JRPG, like playing Grandia for the first time... it’s a magical experience. The characters are all awesome, the story feels gripping, the music is absolutely breathtaking, and the game, it’s art direction, and yes the graphics also look gorgeous when playing in docked mode especially... and the cutscenes are very cool! And the game still absolutely looks like a current gen game, the rendering techniques still look totally modern. Even if the resolution is 720p... to me in action it feels like a 900p game. And it still looks better than Tales of Berzeria on the PS4, lower resolution than tales of berzeria but better graphics, better rendering techniques, better textures... it’s not all about the resolution afterall. (Having said that, I absolutely love Tales of Berzeria, and i couldn’t care less about the graphics, that was an awesome game with an awesome story)... Bottom line, this is a must own if you have a Switch and you love JRPG’s... this is a very very good one! And there are 4k games on PC that are terrible games. But if a game is a good GAME, it will always be good. Just like a good movie is always a good movie. It’s not always about resolution... Persona 5 was also a masterpiece, and that looked pretty much the same on PS3... but I love how Persona 5 looked... games like these are like great books... they’re beyond stuff like resolution... peace.
RobinHoodFox74 My guy whatever part of heaven you in I need to be there lol. But I am so glad you loving this game. I can't wait to get it for Christmas. Have a blessed day my friend.
RobinHoodFox74 the first half of your comment I completely agree with, the second half of your comment was complete nonsense
Kenneth Smith JR I’m glad you’re getting it for Christmas man, gonna be an awesome Christmas for you I’m sure! And cheers, hope you have a great day too my friend!
Gewdvibes fair enough man. We’re always going to disagree on some things with people, impossible to agree on everything. Sometimes a month later I don’t even agree with the past me anymore. Cheers
From one fox to another I have to agree here. And in my case: this is my FIRST JRPG ever. The closest "JRPG" games I've played are a few Final Fantasy titles here and there. The sentiments about the graphics are spot on. It isn't until this video I learned it wasn't 900P at all. What the heck!? In motion or standing still... it looks incredible. And I am quite close to my 50 inch TV!
Fantastic video John, great editing and love your script. You really know how to bring entertaining style and informative content together. Keep going strong and can’t wait for the next DF retro..!
Why is everyone say that the game is 368p in portable mode? Didn't you hear what he said? "Goes as low as 368p". It is 368p in only some moments. And he was praising the game during almost all the review. Watch the video before you comment.
Pokemigas ikr DF should say “up to” rather than “as low as” so that people don’t get the wrong idea
Pokemigas praising it in docked mode. In portable it is trash. I think they rushed for a Christmas release rather than make sure it was optimised.
Its normal for this comment section to take the lowest number and try to sound like the whole game is this bad.
Just people who wanna to make others unhappy because they are unhappy theyselfs.
Well, 540p isn't that much better.
time to deliver a pizza ball the game started development in 2014, and for the most part it’s very impressive imo
yeah they rushed it for a holiday release, there's no reason for this to run worse than Skyrim or BotW
Incendere no switch is just weak
Yeah botw is literally empty compared to this
MOHAMED lol no switch have just 157gflop on portable whit a bandwhidth of 25,6gb/s and the game is not going to have a patch
Even with a low resolution, it looks better than Skyrim or Zelda.
Xenoblade 2 is a fantastic looking game in docked, home console mode on a big screen HD TV.
Solid 720p and a nearly solid 30fps is what I would expect with a Xenoblade game running on Switch's CPU/GPU.
The dynamic resolution is necessary for portable mode on a game like this, unless they made further graphical downgrades to the base game itself in order to have it run better undocked, but I'm pretty sure none of us want that.
Nintendo should allow us to "overclock" Switch in portable mode so it performs the same as docked. This would be a great option for those wanting portable but can also plug into power easily/frequently.
Am i getting old? Because I enjoy the game with 720p so much and even in handheld mode i don´t care that much. Guess because I play games on my PSOne and N64 even nowadays i don´t care so much about how many pixel my games do have as long as the game experience fits!
Kevkowich - Attack on Titan und Mehr! I'm used to playing monster hunter on my 3ds so the graphics don't bother me at all.
This isn't comparable. Low resolution wasn't a problem 10 years ago because you did'nt have a lot of details.
But when you put a lot of detailed objects, lot of grass etc., with a low resolution it's ugly because you get a porridge of pixels.
I have no problem with this game docked, but in handled mode, I can't properly distinguish things.
Digital Foundry called 720p a "low resolution" in a recent video and I was like "what"
+Hornyblend cant properly distinguish things? boy I hav eye floater issues and minor lvl of double vision (even with glasses on) and I can still distinguish things.
Hornyblend I hope you don't drive a car then. You must have some serious eye imparment issues.
This is a game I will never play in portable mode for the main story. It does the game injustice to play the cutscenes in its blurry glory.
But in portable mode, it's nice to be able to casually grind the game. The FPS is stable enough in portable, so it is playable.
Zazon Zenzy Yes thank you.
I bought the game on launch and couldn’t tell how low the resolution is. I’ve been playing exclusively in portable with about 11 hours in. It looks good but some of the characters look bad
Game of the year to me. I haven't been this engrossed in a game in a long time. Clocked at 30 hours+ and still finding new things. Fantastic visuals, music and story. Also, be prepared to be a bit pissed at the subtitles for us english readers if you are using the japanese voices: Poppi = Hanna. Pyra = Homura. There's more names changed aswell such as a location call "Mol something" but in japanese they say Spellvia. I soooo prefer that name :D The other place sounds like something out of Mordor :P
Can't say I've experienced too much of the slow frames. I doubt a cartridge would be much different from internal storage either, so not sure why we have different experiences there. They'll likely patch it going forward though; there are DLC coming over the course of 2018 after all.
Anyways, sitting approx. 2.5m away from a 55" TV (UHD) gives a clean and pretty image. Certainly, I can notice the resolution if I go close, but from the couch, it looks great. One of the best RPG games I've had the pleasure of playing in a long time. Absolutely adore it.
Absconditus This game doesn't need high fps as much as others, and while I have no data to back this up I am pretty sure that the interface and HUD elements are always at the same resolution, which helps quite a bit, as they play a reasonably large part in the experience.
I bring this up because i was really kinda annoyed by the reticule in portable mode doom scaling down with the rest of the image, which seemed really weird to me
There is nothing or no one in particular to blame here...
Xenoblade 2 is a fantastic looking game in docked, home console mode on a big screen HD TV.
Solid 720p and a nearly solid 30fps is what I would expect with a Xenoblade game running on Switch's CPU/GPU.
The dynamic resolution is necessary for portable mode on a game like this, unless they made further graphical downgrades to the base game itself in order to have it run better undocked, but I'm pretty sure none of us want that.
Nintendo should allow us to "overclock" Switch in portable mode so it performs the same as docked. This would be a great option for those wanting portable but can also plug into power easily/frequently.
About time!!!! I was waiting for this video i was generally curious to see how it runs.
It definitely needs a patch, but it still remains a very good game.
Niklasagent _
Yea it looks fun.
But I'll wait until they patch it then I'll buy it.
I'm having a lot of fun with this game in portable mode despite frame rate drops. It just so happens that the drops aren't so bad that I'm unable to control my characters during fighting, which, to me, is the most important thing in this outstanding-so-far JRPG. (:
I pretty much new the comment section for this one was going to be a total shit-fest with fan boys of Sony, MS and PC. I own all 3 current systems Switch, PS4 Pro, Xbox One X and a gaming PC. When you put resolution aside and actually play the game for what it is it is a masterpiece. The story, the music, the art direction, the atmosphere this is JRPG at its finest on display. You can dump on it all you but you are missing out on a terrific game.
Dante Primm not everyone can tolerate the Japanese cliche ok? And there are so many loot boxes which meaningless waste players time. And it’s graphic is so suck. Each problems of it can be a good reason for people dislike this game.
I get it is not everyone cup o-tea but if someone can't tolerate Japanese RPG's and JRPG mechanics they shouldn't even be playing it therefore there opinion is invalid. It would be like me commenting on COD online, I have no right to say anything about that game because I don like online shooters. Everyone places way too much concern on graphics and gaming has turned into a resolution war where those with the shiniest graphics feel they won. There is a reason many games with the shiniest graphics are soon forgotten and other games become classics.
this is probably the best coment Ive seen, I completerly agree, I wil probably play this only docked because handheald is just a bit to bad IMO but docked is fine and it really seems like another amazing game for the switch
John! Your editing and video direction are amazing. Im a fan!
FINALY! I've been waiting since launch for your vid
please do another one if they do a patch
They normally do
1beatcher dont hold your breath
Jojo Stark
I did but my face turned blue than I fainted
I dont think they have yet
1 year later.. they didn't even patch performance issues lmao
I hate to say it, but the resolution in portable mode is genuinely awful. It doesn’t ruin the game, but it does severely impact my enjoyment.
Weird I don't have that problem maybe because I was used to Xenoblade 3's resolution and low resolutions as a whole
Great work. As always. Greetings from Croatia.
Wow. Can they release a patch to improve the handheld mode? I mainly wanted to play this in handheld mode since it is such a huge game, but that resolution drop from dock to portable......... I still have quite a bit of time to decide on if I should get this game or not anyways (xmas).
reminder: dont look at the comments
Simon Rockstream that's too late for me, now i can't get out
The true hurts
Too late. Wish I could turn around.
Not enough ram to render so much geography, but is everything an RPG fan would want, they would need to set a limit distance rendering for the ram to focus more ahead rather than previous distance to allow better performance.
They also need something like that for games like PUBG and Fornite.
Keep in mind he's using the city center of Torigoth for the example, which is the second most demanding location in the game. The most demanding is the center of the abandoned factory. I think mine dropped to about 5fps.
Crazy that they made this with a team of 40 people. The rough parts are probably due to that and the fact that a lot of stuff was outsourced. With their full team back, their next game should be amazing.
Ur though on xc3 now?
@@CharDhue its shit
16hrs in and its better than BOTW imo.
Yeah this game is fuckin sweet so far. Not for the casual RPG player.
Stoped yesterday with 54 hours, really good game
yeah this game is amazing!
Kysen10 BOTW is absolute shit
Yeah played botw and its wank compared to xenoblade 2 xeno is absolutely brilliant and I've played it pretty much portable the whole time
I played the first hour in portable mode. You definitely see the reduction in image quality and resolution but it was never a hindrance to the gameplay. Chronicles 2 is still an absolute blast to play.
I've been playing in handheld mode and haven't noticed the performance oddity from moving away from the town - I wonder if it's related to either dynamic resolution (perhaps assets get flushed more regularly due to some coding quirk?) or more likely I've just been fast traveling back to town more often!
Just ordered a Switch yesterday and I have a question in regards to this game (even though I'm very late to the party): Does the software AA also apply when setting the Switch to 720p output (docked)? Does setting the Switch to 720p change any kind of adaptive resolution (docked)? See, I have an active upscaler cable with the same chipset as the mcable, so I'm currently thinking of either setting my Switch to 720p and letting the cable handle the upscaling or setting the Switch to 1080p and basically bypassing any upscaling by the cable.
Had you not told me the resolution I wouldn't have guessed it was that low. It's a beautiful looking game. Let's also remember that all games look better native than they do in video.
I never said it ran in native 720p. What I meant was that if you look at a game native 1080p and the same game recorded at 1080p that the native image will look sharper than the recorded footage. The same thing applies to this. Any footage we see here is inferior to what it looks like in person.
Wow, I am seriously impressed. Monolith Soft really knows how to make the most out of their tools, though their ambitions does lead to drawbacks. Still I think it's remarkable they got a game like this running on the Switch. But I hope they do try to patch in that weird frame rate issue. 20 fps is absolutely jarring. Also this may be the first title I won't play in portable mode.
I could've sworn that it was much higher than 720p, which is why I was so confused it looked so blurry in portable mode. I guess that heavy AA really works with the artstyle.
I also stumbled across that same framerate problem in that very same spot, but never elsewhere in the game so far.
The portable resolution can get pretty rough, but it's mostly in towns and very heavy action moments. It works surprisingly well for most fights and exploration. I could do without that sharpening though
because they're wrong.
I used to play 4 player split-screen Goldeneye on a TV about the same screen size as a large tablet, but nowhere near the same quality image. I played it from about a meter or two away, as the game struggled to be even 10fps. It was so much fun. Whatever set up you have, just have a blast!
I fucking love this game! It took me 100hrs to complete and I want to do it again!
Agreed. It took me about 100 hours to complete the main story. A fantastic experience from start to finish. In my over 40 years of gaming I'd rank this as one of my favourite all time games.
I wish more games just did pixel perfect upscales, or at least had the option. I’d much rather play the game with it looking like something on the PS2 resolution wise covered in pixels rather than a blurry oversharpened mess.
Love you guys. Great analysis. Cannot wait for this game (yes, I know it is out, but I am still playing skyrim so I will be picking it up later)
I wonder if those sustained performance drops are only an issue with the digital version? I have the cart and I’m not experiencing that. I’m not saying I don’t have any frame drops. In fact, sometimes it can get N64-level sluggish. But it is rare, usually (but not exclusively) tied to using super arts in combat, and it ALWAYS improves soon after. I’ve never had it, for example, drop to 24-ish fps then just stay there. I’ll get hits to what feels like 26fps, but then two second later it returns to normal 30.
And in combat, I’ve had what feels like 15fps, but it usually reverts as soon as the supers are finished.
Games run best on the cartridge.
I'm enjoying the game not as much as first chronicles or X but still having a lot of fun, but i cant believe how X looks way better and even first chronicles' aesthetic (not talking about the graphics) looks better in my eyes.
It’s the resolution, play the game on yuzu, but I get your point, Xenoblade x looks way better then any Xeno game even definitive edition
This game is beautiful. I have been playing handheld exclusively for 80+hours so far. Im in love
Did you guys reach out to Nintendo with your findings and ask about their patch plans? Feels like it needs a couple of major updates to smooth as many of the problems out as possible.
Could that memory bug be related to the EDRAM or lack of it in the Switch? The Xeno engines since the Wii have always had a small pool of really fast RAM. I thought it was causing the issue with the foliage which was quite bad in previews, rendering about 6 or 10 feet in front of you.
Walther Penne xeno x doesn't use edram on wii u
Ye Xiu You know this how exactly? And why wouldnt an exclusive game not make use of hardware specific features?
Walther Penne Maybe they figure they would brute force it, I dont know nearly enough about game engines to give an informed opinion but maybe that small fast ram had helped a lot in certain areas where the larger but much slower Switch ram couldn't. I doubt MonolithSoft would be technically incompetent given theyve helped out on many of Nintendos other games in the technical areas, like Zelda for example.
They definitely need to work on the portable mode.
I was playing the latest Zelda content and was like, "holy shit... these branches obstructing my view fade into actual alphas rather than dither meshes and the engine holds up at 900p, for the most part." WTF, Monolith, although if I had to guess the reason for the bad performance, I'd say it's all the foliage. It's like leaves clogging a gutter
most games on the switch may even achieve the native resolution of the display, but all the haters need is a single one that doesn't to start bashing on the console
thats what haters do
Finally. I was looking for this comparison !
Thanks DF, I was curious what was actually going on with the resolution. I had heard it was 900p docked but it just didn't look like it all most of the time. Are you sure there isn't a dynamic resolution while docked? I feel like it looks sharper indoors and in less open areas.
There is drs apparently.
Honestly I have been playing the game in portable mode most of the time (almost 200 hs (send help)) and I didn't care to much for the resolution, it look fine to me, and I didn't notice any frame drops in portable mode.
Nintendo should've just delayed the game so Monolith can polish more. You can tell that the game was rushed out to be released in time for Christmas.
Ninten dude789 is not rushed where you get this information
It feels rushed.
Yeah. I feel like since they can just do patches now, they don't really care too much about how good it looks on release. I usually forgive Nintendo for doing this though, it's not too often they do this practice of release now and patch later.
You really see it isn't as polished as it could or should be on many corners.
But it's definitely within the industries standards for a release. I've seen much worse.
It has crashed once on me in over 40 hours. And it is playing well enough for what it is.
Ninten dude789 going to be patch
i haven't been keeping up with to many switch relaces but shouldn't it run worse in docked mode? wasn't that the case with BTOW i just don't understand why handheld mode runs worse(lower rez) it seems backwards.
I was keeping my fingers crossed you guys would cover this.
Pyra THICC
Very Nice JUGS
Finally a good comment!
I'm not even big into anime (or redheads), but she is my waifu. Sexy but still gentle and sweet with no guile.
This is still the most premium handheld gaming experience.
I do think anything the switch offers is the new standard until some other company steps up.
And i'm actually really happy with the library so far, I mean it could be more but I can only buy so much.
360p is not premium
He's asking you to name a better handheld idiot.
the vita
im laughing out loud
Obed Blas Consoles can’t even hit that correctly LUL
I have so far been playing exclusively in handled, and while all the things mentioned in the video are definitely there at least as far as I am concerned the game looks good on the small screen, excluding a few instances where the character models look visibly low res or blurry/washed out when a cutscene starts and it is still loading stuff.
As for performance degrading when entering and returning to busy areas, like was demonstrated with Torigoth, once you know about it I found that using "skip travel" seems to be a decent solution. Hope they do some patches, with their DLC plans it seems likely.
The only actual problem that gets kind of annoying in handheld at least was after binge playing for *way too long* (as in double digits in hours, thank you independence day, using AC adapter for power) at some point seemingly at random the loading screens for cutscenes (but not area transitions for some weird reasons) started to suddenly take significantly longer.
Where is the new video about the patch?
Is it fun, is it enjoyable. That’s really all that matters to me anymore these days. I want a good game that has intriguing story and builds emotional attachments to main characters.
One of the best cast of characters out there, so this was definitely up your alley it seems
I just got this game. Have the FPS and image quality issues been resolved?
Have you played it? did you notice any issues?
@@alexbolt5 i just bought anr playing it right now. and the resolution is still shitty in handheld mode, nad still has some fps drops in some scenarios.
@@mr.leroysmith7012 Guess I’ll just try my luck and push through it😭
I'm playing in docked and never even noticed anything. it looks and runs great. It's awesome.
This video kinda spoils it so I don't know why anyone would watch this shit before enjoying a game such as xenoblade. Just go in completely blind and then YOU decide how you perceive it.
What is the name of music playing at the beginning???
Really hope this game gets a patch soon, I've only really watched cutscenes in portable mode so didn't notice the resolution in gameplay but dear lord
Doom needs one as well, what with all the sound bugs in the Switch version
What was the music used int he first part of this vid? Is it from the game?
Jamie sure it is.
It's from Mor Ardain, it plays during the day "Roaming the Wastes" it's the name of the song
The music from this game is probably one of the best OSTs I’ve ever heard
I want 900p docked and 720p patch in handheld mode. If Wii u can play Botw in 720p and switch Handheld 720p too i cant see why Monolith cant patch this.
this has better effects than botw thats probably why
maybe but botw is a port and xb2 on handheld mode should not run worse then xbx on wii u.
MomongaKrieger this looks way more demanding than BOTW.
Before playing the game in 360p they should just shut down some visual effects in handheld mode. What were they thinking?
Waited for this one. Getting the game tommorow
As always, John's editing is on point.
It's such a good game so far, and the music is stellar. Really feels like a true successor to XC1. Sadly since the Switch is a bit on the anemic side with regards to hardware, we have to deal with limitations like this but I can deal with it.
DoombotBL same here. I mean it's xenoblade! The first one lacked in graphics too
Frankly compared to the first one this one is like an 11/10 sex goddess in terms of looks. Even on the Wii I found the character models and textures in the original to be so ugly it was distracting, as wonderful as everything else was.
I don’t care what resolution this runs at, Game is huge and the resolution is so much better than 3ds in portable.
rm2kdev A Switch game with better resolution than a 3DS game is nothing to brag about or even highlight.
Its not bragging, the point is that i'd rather play a decent portable PS2 game on a handheld than a game that looks like this running on a 3ds screen. Resolution means nothing, the game play is awesome the visuals are perfectly acceptable. If all you're after is graphics go play some empty console game that looks like a pixar movie.
Actually the 3ds xenoblade chronicles can run on 3D so it have better horizontal resolution than some zones of this game that run on 368P instead of 400 so the 3ds did a better job running XB1... Switch trully sucks
Proto Razor Switch truly sucks= Er not as much as xbox.
XBOX One X is literally a joke. Not even selling well in asian region. Only white boy cucks buy shitbox one shit. What use is 4k if exclusives are shit.
Excellent analysis. The game looks very pretty if you can ignore the resolution drops. Should be something the developers can fix via patch
I love how a video begins and you can immediately tell it's John's, because it has an actual intro and editing, instead of just a voice saying "hey guys, this is Dave here". Keep being John, John!
Why do you keep saying "Xenoblade Cross" for Chronicles X?
Because that's actually it's title, believe it or not. The Japanese call the "X" "Cross." ゼノブレイドクロス (Xenoblade Cross). We westerners just tend to ignore that and call it "ex".
Isn't MHXX the same thing too?
Andrew Nguyen yes
Well, the official English pronunciation was never Xenoblade "Cross". It was always referred to as Xenoblade Chronicles "Ecks". So, it is kind of jarring that the moderator of the video is referring to it as "cross", because it's likely that most of us have never before heard it referred to as such.
It's probably due to most English speaking countries and the cross based in Christianity, the design is different than a simple X.
This game is fantastic. I can't put it down. Monolith Soft hit it out of the park.
I agree. People saying the game sucks and they haven't even played it.
No one is saying the game sucks. People are saying that it is a shame that it doesn't look and run better.
It looks pretty sweet though. I'm used to playing games on my PC in 4K and the graphics in this game don't bother me at all, in fact the art direction puts it above many PC games that I play.
I’ve just started playing the game now. I wonder if those performance bugs have been sorted?
I want to add, I didn't run into most of those issues with the frame drop as much as you did.. I played this games for days now, and mines runs very good, in dock mode that is..
You have it physically? Because games run better on the physical cartridge.
This game definitely trades high resolution to give the player a huge world to run around in with crazy draw distance. It's been a staple of the series and I'm A-OK not getting 900 or 1080p in order to still get the massive sense of scope. The game still looks pretty great in general so I'm cool with it!
Why are you telling him what should and shouldn't be acceptable?
It's alright in handheld. The sharpening filter is probably the biggest offender to the senses there, but the quality of the art direction and scope still sells the game, even if it does sacrifice image quality to maintain that presentation.
If this were on one of the other console, or a higher end gaming PC, I'd be griping, no doubt. But the whole "it's basically a glorified smartphone that weighs less than a pound" argument tends to work out far more often than not in the Switch's favor. The fact we're seeing a game with all the latest graphical wizzbangery effects, assets, and draw distance on a handheld machine still manages to amaze, even with the caveats in tow.
nah. its ok the first time you boot it. but once it starts chug aka framedrops to mid 20s its stays there till you reboot it just like the video shows. it's awful. unacceptable even.
amerika*
That's not how it works. -_-
SMH
He said this game focusses on narrative.
Sony gamers should love this!
Planning on getting this for,christmas and have a 10 hour drive back. I'm skeptical about getting this because I use my switch mostly in handheld but still use tv. Worried about that ratio, I don't know if I will enjoy it much in handheld on the trip. Ahhh I'm worried.
I have been playing this game before the tech analysis and I jus realized that once I know the numbers, I can’t unsee it. But I never even think twice about it before these videos. Why am I like this
Gunnar Schumann
Sounds like you need to unsubscribe to Digital Foundry and other like channels to save your gaming habits immediately! :O
They are just numbers that mean nothing, just play the game and enjoy it, you are in a magical fantasy world that everything in it is absolutely beautiful, writing and story is great, and gameplay is super fun.
I've played the first 50 hours on portable mode since I bought the Switch for a long vacation abroad. I've finished the remaining 30 hours while docked and it's quite a big difference in visuals. Nevertheless, playing on portable doesn't detract much from the experience because it's an excellent game overall. It's a very engrossing experience and you'll want to play until you at least finish the story.
Despite being used to playing at maximum settings and 1440p on the PC, the game's art style and direction certainly makes it magically picturesque and immersive, particularly when docked, showing again that you need not the highest quality assets, textures and effects to make an amazing world. They made the most out of the Switch's capabilities. I'm sure they could optimize for better resolutions while portable. But I can attest to over 4 hours of gameplay on a single charge while Zelda BOTW could only manage 3 hours tops. I'd much rather take an extra hour of play over slightly sharper presentation.
I'm going to bet that in 3 months or so a patch will be out that fixes the 30fps issue. I'd also bet that it will decrees battery life in handheld but up the visuals.
I do hope Monolith tweaks the account of Txaa in gameplay though a patch ( presumably the last bit of content comes out in fall so they have the time), in cutscenes it is fine, but the blur becomes annoying over time, especially on a 4k tv
Alovon Yeap, I play on a 4K TV 55” making it look bad. But glad the gane is so good that I don’t care.
I put 480 hours into Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and don't think I even thought about the shadows being static even once. :)
my man. just keep enjoying the game 👍
Wait, it's 720p? That TAA is putting in work. I honestly thought the maximum resolution was 900p.
it is, they're wrong.
i think sometimes 720p sometimes 900p
Wait, duh wait duh WAIT WAIT duhhh dudhhh wait?
The reason is the Tegra X1 is underclocked, if Nintendo had the back of the switch an outlet for the fan as well, the switch could achieve higher clock speeds to support better fidelity.
Mitchx42 though I think they might raise the clock speed after a while, seeing how little heat it actually makes currently. It runs fine when smothered my blankets for gods sake!
It's cooling solution can handle max clocks. But it's noisy.
Is it possible to do a hardware hack where you actually plug a video capture device into the Switch itself to get undocked footage?
John will you please do a full analysis such as this on Zelda? It deserves a full tech analysis and all its had is two performance analysis.
I like how all the people are complaining about low resolution in portable mode, when the game looks beautiful and significantly improved over Xenoblade Chronicles X in nearly every way. Did you play X in handheld mode? No? Then play this on your TV and enjoy a fantastic RPG.
theoriginalethan1 Skyrim haven't reflection,volumetric cloud and haven't physic ,zelda is a cartoon game and very empty compare to xeno 2 and mario have already dynamic resolution between 720p-900p on dock and is semi openworld without ia some time xeno 2 is only game on switch with taa zelda haven't aa and drop in resolution at 810p .
They're complaining because one of the Switch's selling points is it's giant 720p screen (9.6x the 2D resolution of the 3DS) and not only is this far from the only game that runs below that on Switch, but it's the worst offender with it's resolution sometimes reaching only 26% the display's resolution. That's only 1.25x increase over the 3DS's maximum resolution. Think about that difference in terms of expectations versus resolution.
I can live with a 720p. A massive amount of the Xbox libary is around there... Not sure I'd play this in portable. Hopefully they patch this.
That opening was awesome!
would love to see you guys use m cables on anything from wii to xbox x