WAS BUYING THE WACOM CINTIQ 16 A MISTAKE?
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- Опубліковано 3 вер 2019
- UPDATE: I NOW HAVE A WACOM PRO 24! (review coming Soon)
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Professional Comic Book Artist Jimmy Reyes shares his opinion on wether he believes the Wacom Cintiq 16 is good for digital Inkers. - Навчання та стиль
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The Cintiq 16 is surely not a bad tablet. And the full HD resolution on a 16" tablet is enough, there is a 4K craze going on at the moment it is something visual artists that doesn't work with video doesn't really need.
There is a rule that many say and that is that 4k only really starts to make sense with a 32" inch monitor which is true.
Most professionals using a 27" inch screen still prefer 2K on them as 4K won't bring any advantage in a normal viewing distance.
Most also forget the scaling issues in many programs if you use a smaller screen, 4k on a 16 inch display? That is gonna be a big fight.
I have tried most Cintiqs myself the newer and old series, and I am sure you will do fine with your regular cintiq. Also think about how much more the pro version would cost you, atleast 3 times more.
I think sometimes those things are more of a want than actually a need.
"4k only really starts to make sense with a 32" inch monitor which is true." Thats not true at all. Reminds me when people were all saying that 30fps is all you need.
Please lower that background music, and as the review goes, like when you are talking about the screen, it's better to shoot the cintiq screen, so the viewer know what your talking about, aside from that this review is really helpful, thank you
highly agree
I find the music of any kind to be distracting..
Yeah, it’s pretty distracting haha
You are mistaking 4K for the zoom level which is actually the screen size, not 4K. 4K pixels will be harder to see than 1080p pixels on the same screen size. In other words on a 4K screen of the same size you would have to zoom in even more than on a 1080p screen. What you actually want is a bigger screen like 24 inch Cintiq.
I was wondering if buying the Pro version or this one and you helped me out to decide. Thanks so much for that, :)
I love getting reviews from true artists, as they know the different needs that we need to make our art work and look pro! Thanks for the review and thoughts. This really helps me, as I really need a screen and spend money in the right direction.
Thank you for this video! Will help me decide if I should get one.
My wacom cintiq 16 works extremely well for me!
does it still work? have you had any issues?
@@sherfj It should work! My friend has been using a wacom tablet for 4 years, so it should last for around 10 years (if taken care of)
@@meso985 Oh, really? What tablet does your friend use? I'll look into buying one!
love to see a review of this product by someone who traditionally inks. thnaks for making this
i really miss your traditional inking videos but i admit that you being able to pull a traditional look on a tablet just blows my mind
dude your art is incredible!
Great review...!!! Thank you. In 5:48 you refer to an adapter for the mac. Which adapter you are refering to (model) and what does it do?
The screen texture is something you really notice and appreciate after trying to draw on something like a Huion tablet that feels like drawing on slippery ice.
what tablet you own?
@@nicholasherrera3055 I worked on a cintiq 13 from 2015 until I dropped it braking the screen early this year. I read a bunch of reviews that claimed Huion kamvas 13 was of high enough quality to compete with Wacom so I ordered one. I found that the display was glass like and slippery and the stylus for some reason had a nib nearly double the size of the Wacom stylus, which made it feel even more awkward, then after a bit of use the stylus began to make a squeaking noise. Everything felt like I was having to adjust to shortcomings in ever important aspect of the tablet and at that point I sent it back and ordered a Cintiq 16 which worked perfectly out of the box.
@@davidcomito505 i got hooked into buying the Huion Kamvas 22 plus because of the color gamut. Two weeks into using it, I noticed the lag and sometimes the pen would stop working in the middle of a drawing a sketch line. Especially when I was sketching quick lines. I am in the process of returning the product and is thinking of purchasing this tablet (Wacom 16). The last tablet I have from Wacom is the CTH-480, which I bought back in 2013. And it's still working. Also, if you look into Reddit, the Huion thread is filled with people having problems; as compared to Wacom's that has people sharing their art.
@@malcolmcastle1699 I would suggest the Cintiq 16, it may be a little more expensive but it just works as it's supposed to.
@@davidcomito505 it was released in 2019 though. is it still viable in 2021? or should i wait for the next iteration?
very good video but I would like to make a little criticism: next time it would be good if the background music had a much lower volume, it is a little difficult to listen to you, which makes it harder to understand you. and more when English is not the native language of some of us. I hope to continue watching your videos.
Hi, many thanks for the review and the tip for the usb converter. I will buy the one is advised , many thanks you saved a lot of frustration.
5:30 made me re-evaluate a stupid purchase I was about to make. Staying positive and making what you have work for you is excellent advise. Thank you for that bliss.
I used to have an Intuos 01 9x12 and while I could paint with it, I never felt comfortable drawing or inking with it. But when I got my Cintiq 21" 1200 x 1600 and Clip Studio: Zowee! (Okay, nobody says "zowee" but it was really great.) I can't imagine trying to go back to using a tablet. More resolution would be nice, sure (as would a wider color gamut), but I'm happy to just zoom in and out a little more often if it means having the immediacy of sight-touch.
4K resolution = more real estate + 16" screen = you will be zooming a lot more to see the fine drawings you made versus a 1080p or 720p screen.
Informative video, Jimmy. I work traditionally, but I'm looking to get into digital someday. Lots of love out there for Wacom, but I wonder if their stuff is overpriced and people just love the name-brand. I might look into getting a used one but that always has some drawbacks. You've changed your studio around...looks great! Thanks for the great review!
Would you be able to teach us about panelling a comic book page? I find it hard to create proper panels, and I have no clue how to make the panels that are used in not only manga, but comics as well.
I feel I create FAR too large panels or too small that text can't fit.
And what size do you export your work for online posting or print? I find it difficult to export the work in JPEG cause it's way too large of a file but the quality is 1:1 but if I lower the image size the quality drops HARD.
How accurate are the colors? I am currently drawing on Surface Pro 4 and thinking of getting this. Also ... since this Cintiq 16 is getting long in the tooth, any news of a new one on the horizon ?
Oh! That's an interesting use for it. Never thought of using it like that. That's actually pretty smart, It's not even that much more expensive than an Intous Pro Large, while having same or larger surface area, right?
Has been thinking of saving up for a Wacom Cintiq pro 24. Has had the Wacom 16 myself for about 1½, and like it very much, great drawing experience, the details thing can get a bit of a worrying thing. But with your use it pretty much solves a reasonable stop gap, before you go for the big 24+ cintiq pro.
You got me hyped, into getting a new display instead, my current main is a QHD 10 bit Samsung, but with a newer 4K 10bit I might be able to use the QHD in portrait mode, on the side instead, while having the 4K, when in the stage of fine details and rendering. Super cheap option, now that good 4K screens ain't that expensive anymore either.
Glad I discovered your video!
I have the Huion Kamvas pro 16 with full laminated display which means it has less parallax (gap between the screen and the glass on top), the rest of the specs are similar and the best part is its $200 cheaper. The pen is good but wacom's pen is better. However I think it's a good trade off considering the price
With that adapter can you use the Cintiq as a separate monitor? Great review.
thanks for your practical input : knowing about Inkers needs relatively to wacom's feature is gold :-)
Nice hat... and video. Keep em’ coming 🙌🏽
I've been really hesitant in buying an iPad Pro due to the fact that I'm old now (mid 50's) and the thought of zooming in and out (which I would have to do) TURNS ME OFF; way off! I think your review is one of the best that I have seen out there! I'm starting to think that my original plan to jump to a Cintiq 24 Pro is the right one. I know there are millions of iPAD fanboys and "pushers" out all over the TUBE,..but man,....$1400 so that I have the pleasure of working on a tiny screen where I will have to zoom in and out just doesn't make sense. My own opinion of course. Others may vary.
Advice: Either drop the volume waaaay down on your backup music track or drop it altogether. You have a really good voice and you speak clearly so don't muddy things up with music. No need to do that.
The product is excellent. I'm still on the learning curve as I'm from the OLD School-old dog learning new tricks.;-). I'm a water colorist and using Rebel which is amazing. I still go back to the watercolor paper since I like to work large. The control of color and water is excellent. Determining the direction of water flow is +++++.
If the rule is to not zoom in, how do you know your lines are cleanly connected?
I dont agree on higher resolution, i have both tablets the pro and the 16, the pro makes computer slower, adds a lot of heat and videocard problems, plus the pen touches the led screen underneath, it gaves me tons of problems with warranty. The 16 version is solid.
Ima first time artist so your telling em the non pro ones are ok? How about the 22?
maybe those issues were more to do with your computer? What video card and pc specs did you have?
I was thinking to save for longer to upgrade to the pro rather than buy the standard and i didnt even think of this 🙏🙏 ur a lifesaver
good to know thanks DigitalBerserk
I think both tablets are great . the cintiq line is overall fantastic and pretty much each tablet you buy from wacom work as intended . In the past they used to have a better quality control and the overall construction quality was a little better but they are still great . The only thing i don't like is the marketing policy . They try to emulate Apple marketing policy a little too much . The price of some tablets make totally no sense to me especially now in 2020 that we have tons of alternative brands that can make good tablets or other device for drawings .
The drawing / Emr /aes technology is also pretty much dead ... i mean The last improvements you find in the new tablets are so subtle that they are not worthed the money . Even today you will be fine with a old cintiq or a old intuos especially if you do only 2d illustrations . In the new models you find a better screen but the drawing experience is pretty much the same . I also have different generations of intuos , cintiq and such but i still like more some older models . I like more the grip pen over the new pro pen for example ... I love the cintiq qhd 27 more than the new pro 24 that it's noisy and heat up a lot . But they are both great products . I think it's a matter of tastes at the end.
Do you guy use screen protector for this Cintiq 16?
I used to own a pro Intuos, it had viewable scratches on the drawing surface that I could live with as it was a screen.
thank you for sharing. I have a question. I noticed you are using the cintiq as a tablet. Would a Wacom Intuos Pro be a better option with one or two 100% SRGB monitors instead of a Contiq Pro 24?
The background music is way too loud
Please don’t tell me it was a mistake... lol I just bought one yesterday!
Your going to love it!
It good... the pen really good
Im curious, did it turn out to be a mistake?
FreeSpokenOne i’m buying one
lildecoy might I ask from where? On amazon they were all sold out.
I'm gonna get a tablet and I'm considering getting the cintiq 16! But I'm kinda scared if it's not gonna be the right choice. Let me know please! 😅
Very good video, I would like to know until you zoom in your studio paint clip? so you do not make details that after printed do not look
@@JimmyReyesArt Ok I understand, but when you zoom in until you stop, you get even more detail?
Everyone needs to remember that this guy is pro status. As a pro their needs are different from us average joe gym people. So if you're beginner this is great, if you're pro status, go for something better. Thats what I got from this review.
You’re toturing yourself by not allowing yourself to zoom in. No one will get mad dude. Be kinder to yourself
You could use the screen of your wacom as a second monitor for web browsing while you are drawing.
Which Wacom models allow the user to draw directly on the screen?
@Jimmy Reyes Art;
Towards the end you said "Would I buy it again, No!"
What would you buy that won't go over $700 including tax?
Thanks!
Ben Hayat huion kamvas 20
Please please please remove that god awful music in the background. Need to hear your voice more than anything else.
rajnik tarapara same 😂😂
Good video. You need some sound dampening for your recording room.
What's the type of Glove your wearing??
( I BEEN ASKING FOR A WACOM TABLET FOR A YEAR ALREADY)!!!!
I have my eyes on an XP pen for a display. Wacom is similar to Intel to me...good and established but costly. At my level Wacom isn't very warranted with fair alternatives at my non-pro level.
I wouldn't be surprised if XP pen provide a display for you to review, sooner or later
Interesting. I’ve been digital painting for years on an HD Cintiq and never felt like I needed more fidelity in the image. Maybe what don’t know can’t hurt me. :)
I think maybe people like the screen texture since it’s so much more tactile than an iPad Pro which is so slippery to draw on.
The resolution is very low on procreate, that’s why I’m switching platform.
I don't need 4k so the Wacom Cintiq 16 looks good for me. Thanks for the honest review!
How did you manage the different screen sizes of iMac and cintiq?
I honestly don't think that Wacom is for me then. It's like $700 over my budget.
for $399 from Hunion you could get 19.5" Display Pen Tablet with 60° Tilt
So you’re Budget is -100$?
you can also use a drawing pad, that have not a screen on it, you draw on it and you can see it on your computer screeen. for me its around 900kr (NOK) ==== its around 100$
huion 420 is a drawing pad that only cost 16$ I have it self just to test it out, its the cheapest pad in the world and its work amazingly good
Get the wacon one 13 inch its 399 and they are now giving 50 dollars off... or you can always snipe a deal on ebay. Thats what I did. Got mine for 560 with the stand
I just bought mine it’s fantastic , I love clip studio paint !! It’s great !! I got some cheap Mac adapter at Best Buy no lag I spent $8. I thought the clarity is great. I’m very pleased with mine . I would have never got it if I didn’t see one of your other videos so thanks!
I love mine the pro capture helps me out on cold days
Since you think the cintiq 16 and 22 sucks. What pen tab should beginner or hobbiest get then? a huion xp pen? $1999 is expensive.
Great video, lots of good honest information. This is a personal observation, I thought the music in the background was a bit distracting from what you were saying. I could here you well but it was a bit of a distraction for me. Love your work, you are a great artist and I love your art style.
So it's good for budget under $700 but if I want 4K monitor I should save more money for it right?
Yes, the 16 pro is a 4k screen and it's $1500
Sorry to hear it didn't work out for you. Having worked with both the Cintiq 16 and the Cintiq 24 pro Imust admit the pro series is superior in resolution and user experience. I know they are very expensive but worth each and every penny.
Wouldn't a 4k screen of the same size require more zooming? Enjoyed your video
FYI I have the 13hd, intuos and now the 32- i prefer the 32 but never had a problem with the others, if i found the 13 screen too small for GUI I'd just unplug the HDMI and use it as a large Intuos.
I bought cinitq pro 16 .I don't have ctype port in my desktop .so I bought wacom link plus .its helps to connect cintiq pro with hdmi and micro hdmi port.
Why am I watching this after I just ordered one 😂
Chi same here lmao, yesterday!
NekroWrld omg haha I hope we won’t have regrets tho. I’ve been wanting to try this since last year
@@chrypco honestly how many art fans have 4k? 90% of them prolly use smartphone to view it. it's wise purchase, if you feel generous you can get 4k monitor and there you have cintiq pro 16 for cheap.
Startech is actually a very good brand. They make a lot of interesting products, several of which I end up using often in my setup.
About your remark of the 4K on the pro-line, you should try it out first.
For exemple, The Cintiq Pro 16" matte surface blurs the screen. This results in 4K not always looking like... 4K. In compareason: my Mobile Studio Pro 13" (2K) is looking slightly sharper compared to my Cintiq Pro 16" (4K) when looking details of a same drawing in Photoshop. (13" Matte surface seems less aggressive)
Jimmy Reyes if you ever get a chance to do a comparison please post your thoughts. I’d be super curious.
I have the 24 inch pro with my imac that is 5k. Id say that the detail is good on both.
surface pro or book, or galaxy tab s6 or 7 feels the same i just love the s-pen for inking.
I never saw you throw a box like that 😂
sorry my ignorance but, how did you connect the cintiq to a Imac? the computer doesn't have a HDMI port... Could you please tell me? thanks.
@@JimmyReyesArt thank you! I'm still watching your video so I haven't reached that part. Thanks!
Do you still use it or did you upgrade?
I get you don't like the resolution, what do you think of the size? Is 16" enough for your work?
Many artist are working on Ipads/laptops. If you're fine with them, then it's okay too. Anyway I'd like something 17-20 inches, just a little bit more comfortable.
Hi, great video, very balanced opinion. I add my own experience. I am a graphic artist, I started as a (traditional) comix inker in the early 90's working for Disney, I still ink, but more illustration for products rather than comix and do other things from pencil to 3d to color. Anyway, I bought my first computer in 1998 together with a big Intuos tablet (A4+) and ended up using it remapped down to only a portion of the tablet completely wasting all that extra space. So then when I had to buy a new tablet for incompatibilty of the old one with the new computer I went for a small A5 and loved it, it worked just the same. Then another while later I got my first Cintiq that was the 21UX and loved that one as well, but it changed the way I worked and not all for the better. The posture of course, and then the fact that you stare at it from very close up for many hours and that drains your energy and tires your eyes (but there's also ageing on top of course). Anyway I then got a Cintiq 24 HD with the Ergostand and that made quite the difference because you can draw if close on your lap and you can vary the position quite a bit so that was progress for neck and spine for sure. But now it broke! Fortunately I also had a back up, a small Cintiq, a 13HD that I got for travel and I'm using right now, but today I ordered a big screen to use the Cintq 13HD just as a tablet looking at the screen the way you do in your video which is also the way I used to work and that maybe I prefer. Hopefully I'll be able to fix my broken Cintiq 24HD (Wacom asked me a fortune to fix it but I think that a TV repairer can sort it given the type of issue it's got that is likely to be a worn component that can be replaced easily by someone with a basic knowledge of that kind of stuff) but then I'll see if I want to work on it again or stay tablet and maybe sell it. Anyway, be well, I subscribed so I'll watch more of your videos. Cheers.
Would a Wacom Intuos Pro with one or two 100% SRGB monitors be a better option instead of the Cintiq Pro 24? If so, is there a huge learning curve with am Intuos?
Thank you for your time?
@@Schwidawg Hi, it depends by the use you make, but yes that is one affordable option for some types of users, I worked like that for many years and I know a few people that prefer to work like that than on a Cintiq. If for example you sketch on paper for early stages of design and then finish up on screen, or do vector art so you're pushing points basically, or do 3d (which means lots fo time with a mouse with extra buttons and lots of opening and closing of vast menus) I'd say that the intuos is just the same. But if you want to draw or paint on screen then the Cintiq is probably better, but don't think that the intuos is not a valid alternative, because it is, your hand to eye coordination gets used to it quite quickly. But the Cintiq 24HD is a good tablet for sure so if you can I'd say get it, it has a good image quality, better than the cheaper Cintiqs that are a bit dim and can tire your eyes. Right now I'm working on a Cintiq 27" QHD that's a bit bigger and has a higher resolution (2560 x 1440) and a higher image quality, and I notice the difference with the lower end Cintiq I've used since my 24hd broke up. I'm also working on an ergonomic chair, one of those that make you put your weight on your shins and that has made another big difference for my back, I can now work endless hours without any backache. I've come to the conclusion that the Cintiq really needs to be coupled with an ergonomic chair, whilst the intuos can be used with a regular chair. Another thing, about the angle of the display, Cintiqs now come with those little feet rather than a stand and for me those little feet don't raise it enough so you'd need to buy either the stand or the flex arm as an extra and it can be expensive, and if you buy the flex arm you'd also need a solid table to fit it that you may have already or not. Anyway, the solution I found to raise it is a Winsor & Newton table easel for watercolour that has the right size and the right angle, a cheap yet effective alternative.
@@Maxinkuk thank you for all your input. It’s much appreciated
I want to thank you for this video. Before I thought I'd buy one of these but review it in real are things you can't change, the neck posture sweats and glove. Anyway... Thank you for saying what no one says.
What is he looking for in a line if he can't see with HD? Before 4k I'm sure he saw fine with hd. But he can always look at the main screen for the lines he is looking for. I mean he already is looking at the screen as he's drawing so I don't know why he bought three display tablet lol
Yeah, I smell bs on that one.
Have watched too many positive reviews about this tablet, but now that I've seen this guy's review? I'm definitely buying this tablet. He's clueless.
@@Half-Track07 I ended up buying this tablet and it's better than what he portrayed them as. But remember UA-camrs him and like Linus Tech tips, they tend to see things differently because they've experienced the top range
Nice, that seems like an honest review.
I have the same one and have a problem with after I draw there are marks of almost every line I had drawn so my screen has all these markings after each time I draw do you expirience this or is there something to fix this? Thanks
Rowgue I have a mobile studio pro. I got a cloth with it, and I can wipe those easy.
I ended up trying the Cintiq 16 and returned it. I found the parallax a bit more than a liked and the accuracy was off in the upper left no matter how many times I calibrated it. People saying there's not noticeable parallax need glasses.
If you have a stand there'll be no problems with parallax
Why are you always looking on the screen of your iMac??? I guess - in your case - it would be more useful/economic to work with a regular pen tablet - Wacom Intuos... or similar... Am I wrong?
Do you teach Art classes online
I have the Wacom tablet hooked up to my laptop. So far, it's done well. Cintiq is a bit too pricey for me at the moment.
You have a mac. If you are not happy (and can) search for apple sidecar and return the wacom to get an ipad pro.
Sidecar basically turns the ipad into a cintiq, and it's native.
Not sure how it will really work and if it work with you mac, but it's something to look into.
Clip Studio is also available for the iPad, but as a monthly subscription, so you could get a portable setup and a "cintiq" using Sidecar or Astropad all in one, but with a smaller screen.
why do you use cintiq if you looking in the monitor all the way ? sorry if i'm impolite, just interested
thank you for explain, and review !
Why is music louder than a voice?
to me the biggest flaw with this device is the surface material - its plastic instead of glass like on the higher end models, and not the laminated low parallax display either. Its serviceable but not amazing. The softer screen material means I've already scratched it once accidentally.
At least the pro pen 2 is nice. way better than an apple pencil.
Does the 22 (basically the same tablet but bigger) change your opinion?
hi, does the screen scratch easily? im planning to buy one!
I had mine for over year now and it got scratched and it messed up the screen. Now there is a rainbow bc the screen is scratched in the center. I’m not sure how it happened since the pen bib wasn’t sharp... and Wacom said it would cost $400+ to replace the screen
Aren’t there screen protector’s? I thought that you could buy a screen protector with paper feeling.
I personally use Huion Kamvas 16, and I love it. I have no complaints. It works great with Clip Studio EX and Adobe Photoshop.
Jimmy, to be honest, you've inspired me to start drawing again. I wasn't very good when I first started, as a child. Back in 1997, my drawing of Ryu from Street Fighter, did end up in GamePRO magazine. As a child, I'm 36 now, I used to draw images just as I saw them...meaning no skeleton aka stick figure, then circles, squares, nor ellipses. I started to learn how to draw recently, after I saw your video on supplies one should have if they are interested in inking. I bought majority of them. I just wish that I would be able to draw half as good as you. Drawing is a hobby of mine, gives me peace. I've always wanted to be able to draw like a comic book artist; I just like those black and white sketches with rendering. Right now I'm learning gesture figure drawing and taking it from there.
P.S. - you have now idea how cool I felt when you gave me a shout out last year during one of your streams. You are one of my role models, along with David Finch. Thank you for everything bro.
Jimmy, where can I find actual pencils where I can practice inking them digitally? I don't know if it makes any difference, but I have the Huion Kamvas Pro 16, not just 16. I love it but I can't find any pencils.
FULL HD is perfect on the tablet itself. I get that full HD is not so sharp on much larger expensive apple screen. But thats nothing but logic.
i have the mobile studio pro...it's great.
cant really hear you talking above the music sometimes
Looks like I'll go ahead and 'go budget' on something like that, then. The XP pen monitor costs about $300 less than the Wacom.
chuck gibson agreed I had the xp pen 22e pro. It wasn’t bad but sure wasn’t a Wacom. I ended up returning it and getting a 27 qhd. Far better.
Graeme Hogg lmao sure for that price it should be better
I am stock between Wacom Cintiq 16 and XP Artist 15.6
15.6 has terrible colours
It’s easy for other companies to copy Wacom’s years of development and offer a similar product for less than half the price. Personally I support their products. Also, a lot of people think that all tablets should have Touch capabilities, which is fine, it’s a personal preference. I personally don’t use it (the palm rejection isn’t working well enough) and don’t like the fact that there’s no physical button to switch it off on the Pro range which is quite annoying. It does come back On once in a while and even have to uninstall/reinstall the driver sometimes so it behave normally again like I set it up. I’m even considering going back to a non-Pro model so I get rid of that issue...
regardless of how good it is, their brand is way too damn expensive. there is no reason it should be twice the price of the next best competition's tablets. seems to be just an apple-esque assumed superiority of product due to high price.
He's a good artist. Strange though that he watch on the monitor screen instead of his Wacom (may be he explained it on other video).
Just bought recently a Wacom Cintiq 22. If I had found your review sooner probably I would have thought twice about taking it since it mantains the same HD screen of the 16 inches version so I effectively have to zoom in EVERY SECOND while inking. not the best for it being a fellow inker too, although the feeling of the screen and the pen sensitivity are totally awesome.
should have gotten the 22hd.
@@JimmyReyesArt Why 600ppi, when the comic is only printed at 400-450ppi?
@@JimmyReyesArt I MAY get it tomorrow, Jimmy. Who needs food? I've also been working with anti-aliased lines. I've been using Print-on-Demand places (like KaBlam) for my Indie jobs, and at my age, that's as good as things are likely to get. ;) But I *_AM_* interested in the pro tech side of things. BTW: KaBlam wants art as 300ppi RGB TIFFs.
It doesn't feel 100% like paper since it's hard to do that... I mean it's a screen... Intuos pro imo have better paper texture feel. I don't know if Cintiq Pro have better paper texture...
But one thing for sure, I've also tried several others cintiq alternative and their screen definitely feel like plastic-sleek which can be quite slippery... it feels completely different than paper, so Wacom do a very good job on their texture screen...
BTW, some people prefer the plastic-sleek feeling though.
4k expensive for what it is hardly notice the difference with HD, I went for HD until 4k is lowed the price. I been using low specs for years lol doesn't change your art skills if you already have it just saying! But everybody as HD now so time for a update. It be years until everybody has 4k being realistic. So they can see my art the same as me on the internet. It's just all money making getting on my nerves as a concept artist
Processor, graphic card and ram ! Pls let me know it ! Thank u !
@@JimmyReyesArt My mean the cintiq 16 on spec
@@jasonlee8546 The cintiq isn't a computer, it's just a tablet monitor so it has no specs.
4K on a 15,6" monitor tablet? How? How do you do?
I bought the Cintiq pro 16 (and regret it once I noticed Wacom started to make this cheaper high quality models) when it was out and the first thing I did was to put it in 1080p. Because... you can't see anything! I mean, you can see the drawing, but even at 1080p, I don't see the pixels, and more importantly, I don't see the icons and tools text in higher than 1080p resolution on a screen like that... And I have a very great close vision. XD
What is funny is that I bought and wait to receive the Cintiq 22 to see if I can use it to replace my Cintiq Pro 16, and that I would have preferred to get the 16 pro in 1080p and to get instead the 22 in 4K, though, Wacom only offers the opposite.
Instead of setting the resolution below the native screen resolution, increase the UI scale to 150 or 200%
As for me, I prefer smaller icons because it gives me more space to draw
@@thecartooncynic I know about this technic. It's set by default btw when Windows consider the screen too small for the native resolution. But the scale is really poorly made on Windows. At least, when I tryed, it was. Icons are all blurred, text is blurred as well. I didn't find it was comfy to work on 4K with a 150% or 200% scale. In my opinion, working on 1080p gives the same result, but the icons are less blurred. Plus, I'm not even sure it's compatible and works well with all the softwares.
Also, I guess now it may be different depending of the software you're using. You said you prefere 4K with icons scaled by Windows to have more space to draw, but the softwares I use mostly:
- Krita is already very well optimized in term of space for a 16" screen in 1080p. So, smaller, you have indeed more space to draw, but you see nothing.
- Blender: I can scale the whole interface in the preference and all the panels with CTRL + middle mouse click button, so 1080p or 4K... since I can't distinguish the pixels even in 1080p, it's the same.
And in the end, 1080p is more fluent for my computer, even if it's a very performant one, and it's using up less power.
So... for me, all the advantages are in favor of the 1080p resolution for a screen like that.
Also, now I bought and use the Cintiq 22 and... I regret a bit the fact the screen is not laminated, so the parallax, even if weak, is a bit worse, but since the screen is bigger, it's not a big deal. And for this one, 1440p or even 4k would have made more sense, but I still feel fine with the 1080p even on this one. 1080p is after all still called "Full High Definition". It's not for nothing. It's still a very comfy resolution to work with.
@@Artaingus hey man, can you tell me what the screen feels like when using the pen on your cintiq 22hd? I am thinking about getting one but that model does not have etched glass? Which the cintiq pro has.... does it feel much worse to draw on than the pro that you had? Also how do you think other brands like Huion and xp pen compare to the cintiq? I see they have laminated screen models for a competitive price which might make the parallax better..... Really hard to decide which to get....I guess I can always refund if I don't like which one I eventually choose.
@@anab0lic Hello, well, first of all, be careful, do not mix up the Wacom Cintiq 22 "HD": www.amazon.com/Wacom-Cintiq-21-Inch-Display-DTK2200/dp/B008HB5K5O/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=cintiq+22&qid=1588871570&sr=8-4 (a more than 10 years old Cintiq model) with the quite recent Wacom Cintiq 22: www.amazon.com/Wacom-Drawing-Graphic-Pressure-Levels-DTK2260K0A/dp/B07TR7YQ8Y/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=cintiq+22&qid=1588871570&sr=8-1
The Cintiq 22 HD (the old one), I never tryed it.
Though, if you were talking about the more recent Cintiq 22, then, the difference I feel with the pro is the parallax which is more present, but still very weak and this issue is compensated by the fact that the screen is wider than the pro 16 I used. As for the texture, it seems a very slightly bit more grainy, it makes you feel maybe more like if you draw on a paper, but still quite smooth as well.
Also, on another way, the Cintiq 22 is quite heavy (around 6 kg), but the Stand makes it more worth it than the Cintiq Pro 16.
As for XP-Pen and Huion, I never tryed one, but I indeed made some comparisons with the equivalent models, the XP-Pen 22r Pro and the Huion Kamvas Pro 22 (2019). I read several comments about those ones, and... The Huion seems more interesting and I felt really hesitant, particularly after I read some things about Huion's return policy. The XP-Pen 22r Pro, as the Wacom Cintiq 22, doesn't have a laminated screen, on the contrary of the Huion. So, theorically, if the parallax is an issue for you and you really want none, Huion Kamvas Pro (2019) would probably be the best choice actually, but I can't promize since I never tryed it.
Whatever, the Wacom Cintiq 22 is really great for me, and less expensive than other Cintiq models while you still get the Wacom quality and return policy, hence why I decided to try this one, and to keep it once I tried. If you want more opinions, I advise you to do as I did and to search for reviews (more than 1 or 2 if possible, to avoid biased reviews) about the XP-Pen Artist 22r Pro and the Huion Kamvas Pro 22 (2019) to make your own opinion about it.
I dont know man if u have to zoom in to see a line I dont think that line will be important especially in print.
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Why look at the monitor and have a digital tablet? Isn't a regular tablet a better and more cheap option?
For many drawing tablets, you need a computer or laptop, as they dont come with windows 10. Also, it's much easier to catch detailed with a drawing tablet. A monitor also helps see what you art looks like on a big screen. If you want to you a regular tablet for fun, work, and doing fun drawings on ibis paint x, I recommend, but professionally and for better outcomes? No, the better option is a drawing tablet. Drawing tablets also have many more options.
Oh man! I'm sorry you're not loving the 16. But yeah, Ultra HD is a must for inking. The Pro version of the 16" has four times the pixels and is going for like $1100 on on eBay now, which seems reasonable (and probably worth it if you're spending $650 on the non-Pro 16 to begin with). I know people like the Huion tablets, too, but I'm too reliant on the Wacom drivers to make the switch.
Scott Drummond is the pro 16 sharper than the 16? I'm coming from a mobile studio pro 16 which is very sharp but the screen is lifting up. Can't afford to buy another msp.
@@sonalliandrews4098 I have not used either specifically, but the Pro has a much higher pixel density than the regular. Sadly, they stopped making the Pro, though, so you will have to really dig to find one.