The best WACOM CINTIQ 16 review
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The Wacom Cintiq 16 is a great Monitor Tablet that deserves an in-depth review with a full-length speed-painting and pen test. In this video I want to show you the full features and everything about this Wacom tablet including the optional stand as well as giving you the option to mount it on an Ergotron MXV monitor arm (which I'll unbox and set-up in another video). I'm going to do pen tests and give you my fullest opinion. If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the comments - I answer every comment and I've been using the the Wacom Cintiq 22 since it came out!
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Thanks for watching - you folks are great!! Links are in the description ;) Subscribe and I will post the longer Bill Murray tutorial soon! Share if you care ;)
I hate that wacom made this tablet better than the 16" pro . And that's why cause my 16"pro don't have the versa mount witch is the best mount ever . So I can't work comfortable . Thank you wacom for paying 1700 euro for a old tablet
Stay subscribed and hit that notification bell because I have a video coming up that is gonna solve that problem for you ;)
This piece is gorgeous! Love your style with every piece of detail. I look forward to experimenting with the liquify tool in my future portrait pieces! Thank you for this!
Have fun Carolyn. I get a lot of comments on my channel about how Procreate on the iPad is better than Photoshop and it's exactly this type of reason why you need a real application rather than a little tablet app to do some art in my opinion. Have fun drawing!!!
The effort you put into this review made me hit the sub button before the video ended. Great stuff!
That means a lot. Thanks buddy. I have a ton of unfinished videos here that I need to get done. A couple that are finished and are just waiting for release too. I do put a lot of time and effort in and it's all unpaid. UA-cam is kind of crazy. Thanks for your support! :D
Good breakdown Lawrence, appreciate your review.
Any time. I've been wanting to do this one for a while. It felt like the right moment after the Wacom One being announced!!
Really great painting of Bill Murray! Really enjoyed watching your process
Glad you enjoyed that. I want to release this one as a longer video. Not sure how I'm going to do that yet as it would be very long but I will make that happen.
Always your reviews are the best
Thanks for watching again (& again :) Nice to see you back!! Spread the word!!
Really good video. And loved that portrait :).
My only grip is with the size (I have a color calibrator). But I can see how 16" is the ideal size for many. Felt instantly in love with that ergotron arm.
The Ergotron arm is a must. I was so glad they put a VESA mount on here!!!
I thought I would add, an instrument in the hands of a master means a whole different experience and world, which many aspire to become. Knowing the instrument can sing, can be half the battle to know one can reach those dreams. One just can't get there with a tin can:) Thanks for the wonderful demo!! Told me what I needed to know of the capability of the tab. :) Great review and complete information.
Thank you for your very kind words Vicki - that really means a lot :) Spread the word & stay subscribed! More to come!
This was GREAT!!!!!! it really heped me! Im trying to figure out which drawing tablet I want to get, there are so many options out there and honestly, it's a little confusing. And this specific review so great because it went into detail, and you were really clear about what you thought was good and what the tablet did!!!! Thank you do much!
Glad I could help! Happy New Year Spread the word.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW ok I will lol :)
Yay!!!! 🙏
Fantastic! Subscribed!
OH MY GOD FIRST video with decent sound!!! thank god!!!
Great review! Thanks.
Thanks for watching! Means a lot Neelima :)
Great reveiw, I was looking at the comments and someone said the colours on the 16 are washed out, but I have a budget IPS monitor so I doubt I would even be able to notice
The person who mentioned that is a pro' colour artist for Marvel and DC - He does colours for a living. Most will not notice it. A lot of people do get 'excited' over the tiny 3% difference in specs but it's only a few pro's who can actually tell the difference. I think his opinion is valid in that case! The good thing here is that we know he's a real pro as well rather than just one of the people telling us he is. haha.
Yea that's good, and thanks for letting me know
*Made me feel better* watching your art process here because, like you said, taking more time and care for the detail and almost not using any fancy brushes may make us feel less professional*. But it's just a way of working, any artist can have his favourite process and learning techniques.
*I actually work mainly as graphic designer, but i've been drawing and painting digitally for years, which is my living passion and does provide me extra income. So even though i am currently doing a lot less art than the average professional, I still consider myself an (almost) professional artist XD
@@MarkShawMedia agree !
Great video, You're amazing! It deserves to buy because of it's low price point. If what you need is the best best pen with no compromises this is it. The downsides are that this does not have a laminated display so you have some parallax and there are also no shortcut keys on the device.
The digital pen of the XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro is using is also really good and jitter free. The addition of a laminated screen is a nice addition and really reduces parallax.
You're amazing! I bought this on sale before the holidays. I love it. Do you think there will be support for the Staedtler Noris Digital like the Wacom One or is it a completely different technology?
Unfortunately the Cintiq 16 uses a different pen tech so it can't use the Staedtler pen at all. However there is nothing stopping anyone from creating one that does work with all Pro Pen 2 Cintiqs ;)
Hi Lawrence ! Great review! I like so much of your channel and your honest.
I love wacom products, i have a wacom intuos for almost 5 years now and never had any problem. I read some of the comments below and i would like to say something about my personal experience with wacom prices.
I live in Brazil and here this specific display tablet cost almost R$9k(in reais) - Something like $1700 dolars. And i'm keep thinking why this ? why they need be so expansive ? Why the price is it not normalized? If you add taxes and fees to final price still not justifed why they charge so much here. I imagine if wacom knows
about this kind stuff. I don't know.
I know for example Huion sell her tablet here for less than half of price.
Here, for hobby and some pro artists...this tablet is just a dream!
I just wanted to give you another opnion about and say why i think people still complaing about the wacom table cost. Again thank you for all great stuff.
I heard Tech is more expensive in Brazil. I presume that is down to the government charging Tax. The UK does the same. Obviously it isn't as much but we pay more than America and other countries too :(
Thank you for this awesome video! but this is it? 6:24 Don't need to install the drive?
Hello Lawrence, what do you say about the colors of this screen? If I want a good screen (not over the top good, just to trust it that I don't need to check my colors on another screen) do you think I should go for the pro 16 or I can take this one? (or save for the cintiq 22, heh.... :)) )
Awesome video. Can you do a series where you show us in real time for beginners how to navigate the different tabs. Ty.
Great suggestion! I have thought about releasing some of my speed paints as real time versions.
...or just doing livestreams.
Great video and information! I was just about to purchase the Cintiq 16 Pro, but I guess it must have been on sale this weekend. The price yesterday was $1199 and today it's $1499. Do you know if there's much difference in the parallax between this and the Pro? Parallax and the USB-C/Thunderbolt connectivity to my 2019 MacBook Pro were the main reasons for considering the PRO, but now at $1499 it just seems too much. $650 for the non-Pro Cintiq seems like the better buy right now.
Its a great video and a wonderful portrite . What is the art app you use?
The sRGB range only (not full Adobe RGB) , or washed out colors (previous to calibration): Workable. Many digital POD companies require just that. Specially with a second (if pro and also calibrated) monitor to check and a calibrator (imo this is a must for any serious professional activity, anyway. And even more of a need with XP Pen and Huion, than with the fairly well calibrated from default Cintiqs). Also, with the monitor to check, there might be some intense green (or blue, etc) escaping into the Adobe RGB range, but that's rarely gonna be printable by your client's print company, and also, you can play, seeing it in the second monitor, with tones that depict same "sensation" even with less saturation and intensity, After all, is about contrast. The strongest green neon, besides other intense lights, is perceived as a weak "meh". While even a darker, unsaturated "neon green", if put together with much darker and very low saturation tones, bam!, you got your laser beam shining like real laser! This is due to how our brain perceives colors and contrast. And mastering that is one of the main tricks in the whole deal.
No keys in the tablet. The use of a keyboard is non avoidable in every serious apps usage.
The resolution : this problem has been waaay too magnified. If you are noticing the dots of the screen: First, congrats, as unlike me, you'r surely a young teenager with yet excellent eyesight. Please don't abuse it, as our digital world is gonna make a lot of ppl reach mid forties - 50 like me, with glasses for working yes or yes. Which helps consolidating the recent point: To keep your eyesight fine, besides trying to work only 8 hours a day, close your eyes for 20 seconds every 20 minutes, and not abusing screen at free time, you need to work NOT "smashed" to the screen, but at a good distance, and the back straight (this also avoids neck and back issues). So... IMO at the right distance, working at 1080p, tootally fine, you should not see the pixel. And if you do, please combat any form of obsessive compulsive habit, those aren't good to have. Remember ! (or what your dad told you) : in the 80s and 90s the arcade machines showed pixels the size little coins. And Proudly! The pixel was honored: It is beautiful, remember that. Said by a former pixel artist in that style.
My grip is size, but seems 16" is for students and hobbyists, while 22" and up is for old pro farts ;)
Is this the best and only tablet you can buy at this price? Nope! But is a good purchase. And I like the durability of every wacom device I have. If worrying about that, it's already a no-brainer. If not such a priority, there are also other very good tablets. But u don't go wrong with this in terms of quality.
wow! You sound less grumpy today 3poly' :O haha.
Good review Lawrence and very helpful narrative of your drawing style. One question though: you are obviously using PS here, but you did mention Corel Painter. Presumably you use both but why would you use e.g. PS over Corel and vice versa? By the way, I am new to digital art and just exploring Corel Painter. I have PS and have used it for photography for years, just didn’t see it as a serious digital art tool, hence exploring Corel.
Hi Hugh, great question! I don't recommend one over the over. The idea that one is better than the other is an idea created UA-camrs who make 'Vs' videos or top ten lists. They are different tools and quite often during my commission work I'll use both Photoshop and Painter on a single painting to achieve the final look. Each application has unique abilities. You're a Photographer, so imagine me asking why you use more than one camera - same principle. Each has a different feel and gives you different results, comes with different brushes/lenses... you get the idea.
As a Corel Painter Master I should and will of course recommend Painter. It's fantastic and my art wouldn't be what it is today without it. It might be a good idea for you to explore a different application just so you can separate yourself from your photography work. Painter's brushes are very different and aimed more at Painters and artists - once you find the right brushes for you then it really does open up an entire world of difference. Unlike most, I use standard brushes in Photoshop and don't pick the cool hair/skin pattern brushes which do all the work for you - You might might of noticed that in this video. That's because I don't like unpredictable brush strokes. I need to know what my brush is going to do. Painters brush engine is far more advanced than Photoshop's. They rebuilt it from scratch about four years ago. Whereas the Photoshop engine is about twenty years old and can't be changed without tearing out the guts of the program. Photoshop still works great though so it's not really an issue.
Really wish I'd of painted this Corel Painter. I think it might of come out nicer. I might have to move it over there and give it a touch up. It was only for UA-cam so I never really considered doing anything with that. Glad you enjoyed the video! Hope my answer helped.
BTW. I beta test both PS and Painter. Have done for years and have used these applications for many years. Both are second nature to me. I tend to use PS more on UA-cam just because I think the audience knows it better (and I don't and Painter on all my devices). I will make more Painter videos in the future. Back when I took up digital art in the mid 90's Photoshop was still quite basic (compared to today) but it was a lot more accessible than applications like Painter. Which were seen as a little more experimental. Over the years so many of us started to use Photoshop for our illustration & art that it became the standard. Especially in the industry. Because studios had Photoshop they wouldn't pay for a Painter licence as well.
Can we have a Long tutorial on this hahah excellent work this is I will try the overlay way to get rid of the sketch lines
Sure thing! Stay subscribed!
Hey Lawrence, are you going to review the Cintiq 22? I'd like to get a Cintiq after years using the Intuos lineup... I recently tried a screen tablet and I really enjoyed the feeling while sculpting in ZBrush! I think the Cintiq 16 will be enough for me, but I'm worried about the screen size. It would be great to know you opinion about the 22inch model. Great review btw!
I've already recorded it! I just need to polish up the video. You wouldn't believe how much work it takes to put a video together. Especially the editing stage. If you are doing it all yourself and you're not a full time UA-camr then you just have to fit it in around your commissions ;) I do have a video about picking the perfect screen size. You should check that out to be sure 100% about the size: ua-cam.com/video/1FVT4BzY5UY/v-deo.html
Very thorough review! Have you seen the video of the Elgato Stream Deck that Aaron reviewed? It would probably work with this tablet too.
I don't watch Aaron's channel any more. Not since he got over 100,000 subs and told me he was too big to do livestream with me now. He just stopped talking to me and wouldn't respond to my messages even though we'd been friends for a very long time. I was very upset that he did that. He obviously wanted to work with bigger UA-camrs and focus on his channel but he went about it all wrong. While I won't say this in a video... I won't support or watch his content.
The Elgato Streamdeck is quite good. Overly expensive for what it is maybe considering you can get something else to do the same job for a lot less.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW That's a shame! I don't understand why anyone would do that. I thought a lot of the value of UA-cam was all the friends and the community that you build with it.
Hello Lawrence, I opted for a Huion Kamvas pro 16, and I combined it with the Wacom control, for the moment I have not had much problem, except for the calibration that is a bit picky, do you have any recommendations about it? Do you think I should consider a current Wacom option? By the way, I liked the idea of the arm to mount the tablet, do you know of any model or adapter for devices that have no area to screw?
I've got a video coming out soon which will show you how to use an Ergotron arm with any tablet - even if it has no VESA holes.
I use the Wacom Cintiq with a lot of devices. It's really good. I actually have two. Works great.
As for screens, Wacom are the only company that have consistently made sure their screens don't need to be calibrated straight out of the box. However, other manufacturers are getting better on newer tablets.
Hi! Now that it's been eight months, do you still like the tablet? My husband just bought me one for our anniversary and I'm excited to receive it, but I'm curious to hear from you if you've run into any issues now that some time has passed. Great video!
Still a great tablet. I don't use this as my daily use tablet but it is handy to have around! Let me know what you think when you get it @LAWRENCEcanDRAW on Twitter!
Hey Lawrence! I have been watching your stuff for a while. I got my Ergotron arm for my Cintiq pro 24 based off of your recommendation and I love it, thank you. My friend got a Cintiq 16, and I was going to get him a Ergotron arm. You recommend the MXV arm, but since it's under the weight recommendations (7-20lbs), is there any fear of the drawing tablet drifting, upward? The one recommended from Ergotron customer service was the Neo-Flex Monitor Arm. I didn't see any reviews from you on that arm. Any thoughts Neo-Flex Monitor Arm or recommendations on the direction I should go? Thanks, for the content and your insight.
I never had the urge to review the Neo-Flex Monitor Arm. Yes it might do the job well but if you upgrade your tablet in the future then the arm might not handle the larger tablet. Personally I like to make sure I go with an arm that is future proof. Now I never recommend an arm or product I've never tried. I think the Ergotron MX is a great arm for your tablet. You also have to factor in the point that you will add extra weight when you rest your arm on the tablet too - it's not just a monitor that you look at. Hope that helps. Sorry that I can't advise you on the Neo-Flex Monitor Arm, I just don't like to talk about products I've not personally tested.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW Ok. Thank you for the response back so quickly. No apology needed, I wasn't sure if you have had the opportunity or not to check out the Neo arm or not. I like your point on the arm and the arm being future proof. I am assuming my friend will upgraded eventually to a beefier Wacom tablet in the future, so might as well plan on that. Thank you again and hope everything is going well for you and yours.
Happy to help! Stay subscribed ;)
hi lawrence, im a guy wanting to have a career in art, do u have any tips on developing a unique style and how to get inspiration?
Depends who you want to work for and in what industry. There's no fast way of developing a style. You just surround yourself with art you like in the area you want to work in. If you enjoy the art you're creating then others will enjoy it too!
hi hi...great review and really nice portrait!....quick question though....I currently have the intuos pro, and as you stated the cintiq 16 doesn't have any hotkey buttons on it, does that mean I wouldn't be able to rotate the canvas like I can on my intuos (without the remote)?....T_T
You can use keyboard shortcuts or rotate control in the app that you are drawing in. Obviously you see me rotating during this portrait.
I can't decide between that one and the wacom one, are they really different besides the pressure levels, screen size and pen ? Is it worth putting an additional 200€ to get this one instead of the wacom One ? At the moment any of those would be a great improvement over my old intuos pen & touch with only 1042 pressure levels haha but I can't seem to decide which one to upgrade to. Any input ?
This is a better tablet than the Wacom One. However I would prefer to give a Wacom One to a young child for learning. A Wacom One is also more affordable.
Very nice video, thank you so much. Do you know if this tablet can be used as a regular Intuos? I mean, turn off the screen and use it with the regular monitor?
You can't 'turn the screen off' but you can just mirror another screen in your PC or Mac's display settings which gives you the same effect as an Intuos. You still need to plug in that HDMI cable otherwise the drivers will just see the table as not available. It will work fine if you want to mirror your screen but really... why not just buy a cheaper Intuos tablet?
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW Hi Lawrence. Thanks for your answer! The thing is that I´m doing a lot of 3D stuff and I would rather a much more bigger screen for certain tasks where a bigger Cintiq could be a bit painful in the arm-shoulder cause of the posture. Apart of that I also draw (perfect for screen tablets) and travel...so I think is a perfect size BUT....the option to make it works as an Intuos is a big plus for me....I know it is an option you can find in the Pro version btw, so I wanted to know if it is still in this one :)
go with your gut!
Hi, fantastic video...thanks for that.....I have never drawn anything , but I use to paint with an airbrush, freehand. This digital art, concept is confusing for me,
because I don't understand how all the brushes, pens, color choices, etc. etc.....get onto the screen. Basically, I am asking does all this happen when you
download the driver, into your computer, or do you need Photoshop, or other programs, to get all this to work?
I know this may be a dumb question, on my part, but I am 76 years old,...lol... and comprehension is a little more difficult then it used to be...hope you can help
with my question.....thx.
It is a great question David! Think of the tablet as just a screen. The pen (stylus) is like a mouse. You need the applications like Photoshop to draw with. And think of brushes like different fonts. You can pick whichever one you think works best for whatever you are creating - something serious, something silly, maybe something Halloween themed even!
I always say if you can draw a straight line and a circle then you can draw anything. You just need regular practice. Do one hour a day. Doesn't matter if it is on paper or digital as long as you keep it up!
I agree it.
Cintiq 16 is appreciate and fit in for serious hobby like me.
Yeah. I think it's a great tablet that will last you for years and it's your starting career as a pro artist too ;)
Lawrence Mann //w// yeah thx. Btw i interesting cintiq one for third monitor or replacement cintiq 16 when go outside especially it has usb-c that’s why i consider xD
Thanks for the review and suggesting a monitor arm. Will this Cintiq fit on any VESA monitor arm or do you need that adapter plate from the official Wacom $80 stand?
I haven't tested it. Wish I had now. I'll dig it out.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW If it is not too much effort: thank you very much!
Happy to help! ;)
Will a Ergotron LX also be usable? think looks more flexible, want to be able bring it forth on the edge of the desk
P.S. very good drawing tablet for its price, got it after christmas and im absolutely satisfied with it :)
Yes it will. I have a brand new LX video shot and coming soon to show you as well! Stay Subscribed. 😉
I just purchased the xp-pen 22e pro and I'm a charcoal graphite portrait artist can you tell what apps do I need to get this drawing affect with the 22e pro. And like you I'm a detail artist.
I am really thinking about saving up for this and getting it next year when I go to university!
I don't understand why people are so annoyed with the price tho?
It seems really good to me!:0
It will be my first display tablet:3
I've been using the intuos pro for 2 years now and have decided there is no way im giving up the pen for an alternative screen tablet:/
People get angry when they want something and can't afford it. Especially when they can't express themselves fully. That's the same in any case. Not just with tech but with everything in life. I personally don't understand why people have built this Wacom Vs the 'others' mentality. I think it's just media clickbait to get views. People don't own shares in these companies so there's no reason to take sides. Each tablet should be judged on it's individual merits in my opinion.
The Wacom Cintiq 16 is a great tablet and as you can see, I had a lot of fun with this one. I think it works well and it the perfect blend between the Pro range and affordability.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW I would happily save up for this because it's the type of quality I would like in a screen display.
I don't think alternatives are trash or anything. They are good for beginners I think! And for people who don't mind the cons and would like to start off with a display.
Some people like wacom some like alternatives- at the end of the day the most important is being comfortable with the equipment you use, I think!:P
I'm curious how easy switching which monitor(s) the tablet's drawing on is without express keys. I often want my stylus to map to my other two monitors between drawing tasks. I was also curious if there's a way to disable the Cintiq display without unplugging the HDMI cable in order to use it more like a standard tablet for more desktop type work.
If you go into display settings you can turn off any monitor. It's the same option you select for mirroring etc. Hope that helps.
I've been testing, using many different tablets since the early 90's so I'm used to switching between them day-to-day. Probably more than most people. In that sense my point of view is a little different to most artists.
Hello, Lawrence.
I've seen your video about Microsoft Surface pro 6.
Saw you weren't really excited with it.
What are your thoughts about Surface pro 7?
Is it a good device to continue growing after Huion Kamvas 20 pro and getting slightly mobile?
Now i have to make a decision.
Do I get an Ipad Pro with its Procreate?
Or go fully mobile windows with its full Photoshop functions?
Thanks 😇
Surface Pro 7 still has the same pen technology as the Surface Pro 6. They haven't updated it at all. In fact things are worse now... Microsoft Surface team report to the Microsoft Office team and reports are that they really have no interest in artists at all and are not going to update their pen technology now. The new slim pen is not any better. So I wouldn't pay money for a new Surface. It is not great compared to other devices on the market. Very sad.
The iPad is good in terms of pen tech but for pro's it is sadly lacking of real programmes and only uses apps. That's my issue there. I prefer to go with a real 2-in-1 and have a real tablet on my desk! Question is... do you really need to be mobile?
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW well, the idea was to get some device and take it to kinda park or forest while walking with a small kid. To sit somewhere near the playground and draw. But using procreate I have to finish the work on my PC, so it's like doing the job 75 or 80 percent and then do it again at home. That's why I've been thinking about some mobile thing but working on windows, so i don't have to finish projects later at home😳
Have you thought about the new Huion tablet that can be used with and powered from your phone! Might be cool. Small and just use your other tablet when you get back!
A slightly off topic question about using a drawing tablet for document markup.
I'm a teacher and spend 15+hours a week marking electronic written work on OneNote. Until now I've used a surface pro but it's getting old and slow.
I never use the surface pro as a computer other than for marking work and have a powerful desktop PC which I use for most work.
I'm tempted to use a wacom 16 or 22 to replace the surface pro so I can see more of the work and hopefully it'll last longer than the surface pro has.
I'm worried about the lower resolution and how that'll impact reading work. Are you able to offer any intelligent ideas?
Thanks in advance.
I use mine all the time to sign contracts ;)
love this thing the stand was definitely worth it
Check out my playlist for Ergotron arms - I think you may love those!!
Bravo!
Thanks zsolt ;) Thanks for watching - Spread the word!
I appreciate how seriously you evaluated this Cintiq model despite it being on the lower end. In fact, it'd be very useful to most people as it's Wacom's most affordable device to look to right now. Also, I'm fairly sure that this was the first 16-inch pen display to include a VESA slot, and that you're the first person I've seen demonstrating it with a suitable mounting arm, so big thanks for that! It's unfortunate that Ergotron's products are way outside of my budget. I managed to find alternative brands, but most only had a height of around 25cm. I checked out the one you got, which says 30cm. May I ask if this height difference sounds too drastic to you?
I recommend Ergotron because I have researched them very well. I know how exhaustively they test their products and how much effort they put in behind the scenes. I trust them. Also, I only give my personal recommendation to products I have tried and even then to those devices and software's I tested for a good period of time. A lot of reviewers who do similar channels seem to unbox something, test it for the day and never touch it again :(
I will say that Amazon sell an Amazon Basics arm that looks a lot like the Ergoton LX arm. It might be worth looking at. However it doesn't come with the same guarantee and it hasn't been rigorously stress tested like the Ergotron arm. amzn.to/30nWuUP - So although it is cheaper, it may not give you the same piece of mind.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW Thank you very much for the prompt response. Indeed, I'm also certain of your experience with the most quality products. I suppose I'm just being difficult with further financial commitment, as justifying for the tablet alone was already overwhelming enough for me. Thank you for your alternative suggestion however! I'll definitely aspire to owning an Ergotron as much as I do with a Wacom Cintiq, in the future!
Dude, you have mad skill! I also use this Cintiq in my studio for months now so I can definitely vouch for this review!
Pros : sweet spot for screen size and price, same pen technology as the Pro line
Cons : colors are washed out but can be remedied with proper color calibration (or alternatively, you can just use a second monitor for color reference), no touchscreen (not a deal breaker)
I also have the Cintiq Pro 13, I think I'm gonna have to sell it ;)
Thanks Arif ;) I remember you saying that you use this tablet. One of the reasons I wanted to get my full length review out actually. Thought it was time I show how much I like this tablet too.
I think you have to use multiple monitors. I use a great HP monitor. I have also reviewed that. It's actually quite affordable. I could still upgrade to super pro one but I have worked in print for years so I mainly work of CMYK values so it doesn't bother me even if I'm a little out. Everything is digital print anyway now so that's not even accurate - haha.
I would prefer touchscreen but that is the point of the Pro range. I know you go into comics for the love, not the money though :( that's why I din't stick around long!!! :O Real shame it never paid more. I did a video on Jim Lee once btw.
I have a Yoga laptop with a pretty wide color gamut 4K screen, so that does the job pretty well. But still, every time I got my comps I always compare the printed book side by side to my monitor. Every. Time! :D
Actually I'm making pretty good money from comics. I have a small team of colorist and we usually worked on at least two 20-page books each month. 40 pages a month is really not a bad thing at all. But that mostly because I live on a country where $ has strong value when converted to my local currency. In fact, most South East Asian artists I know, are living pretty well. And that's not including royalties we receive twice a year.
But I do agree that it doesn't pay more. My page rate has always been the same for years. Although I can say the same thing to most comic artists too. Unless you got an exclusive deal, you rarely get a raise. The only thing you can do is do more pages! haha
You did a video on Jim Lee?? I gotta see it!
his squiggle line look better than my best work. hahahaha
2 hrs practice a day fella - You'll get there!
Great review thank you. There really is nothing up there wacom yet.
Agreed. Thanks for watching Chris!
is the 16 the same as the
Wacom Cintiq 22 Creative Pen Display? I want a larger drawing surface. I work on children's book but, need to digitalize my final paintings- and combine digital elements and drawings - composited with my traditional drawings. Will this be a good choice? I've had it with my ipad PRO--- just not interested in working with such a small surface.
Pretty much the same, yes. The 22" is just bigger and has a vesa mount on the back. It also comes with the stand.
excellent work ... who agrees ... likes
Thanks buddy :)
In your next drawing demo can you take a fresh pass at "Forever Dead"?
Forever Dead is something I always want to return to! Thanks for your support :)
Thanks for the great detailed review.
I am the owner of Wacom Cintiq 16 and want to buy Ergotron MXV for it. But the specification of this arm indicates the Weight Capacity of 3.2kg - 9.1kg, and the weight of the graphics tablet is only 1.9kg. How robust and stable is this combination of devices and does not pull the tablet up? I would be very grateful for real feedback on the work of these devices in pairs.
Many thanks
The arms are made for monitors - not tablets. Artists normally tilt drawing tablets a lot more, lean on them too etc. You need to get an arm that can handle more than just the weight of your tablet. Especially if you want better stability. That said, it is a moving platform and will never be 100% still for you which is why I let the bottom edge of my tablet rest on the desk when I need that total stability.
The Ergotron MXV is a super powerful arm that will take a lot of weight but probably is overkill in this case. I will say though that you will not see any wobbly from it whatsoever. I am just worried that your tablet might be too light to give you the ability to move the arm around.
I asked customer service for a long time and finally realized that if the monitor is too light, it will only cause the joint behind the monitor to bounce up and not be able to maintain 90 degrees of vertical lift. That obviously doesn't affect painting and 1.9kg isn't too light to bounce up i guess.
Nice review i agree on pretty much everything . I will love to see a samsung flex review maybe with a comparison with some other 2 in 1 . You find tons of artists reviews about the ipad pro but pretty much nothing about all these new 2 in 1 like the flex , the spectre , lenovo c940 and such . I still think that a windows machine is better than Ipados for any kind of application . The problem is that on a lot of this 2 in 1 you find just the n-trig pen that it's decent but not nice like an apple pencil or a wacom emr digitizer . anyway Keep up the good work 😋😋
I've tried talking to Samsung but here in the UK they are very unresponsive to artists. As a result I tend to leave them alone. There are better devices on the market anyway. I prefer a good 2-in-1 like the Lenovo Yoga (C940 you mentioned) which has the power to do some real work on. Samsung own a part of Wacom so if they really wanted to give us a great tablet with Wacom tech then they could - when they do that then I'll spend the money!
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW It's sad that samsung behave like that . The Samsung book flex look cool and i think it's the only "standard/commercial" 2 in 1 that use Wacom Emr . The only alternative 2 in 1 i know with a similar digitizer are the mobile studio pro and the HP zbook x2 but they are far more expensive. i saw some reviews about the lenovo c940 and it's pretty good but i think it have wacom AES not EMR technology than i believed that the pen digitizer on the flex was better . Good to know. i will try to find more info about it. thank you for the answer .
Wacom sells its OEM tech to virtually every company out there. Mostly active stylus tech, some EMR tech but none, not even Samsung get the same EMR tech that they put on the Wacom tablets. To be honest, even the OEM EMR does not come close to Wacom EMR. There are too many differences. Also you've got pen shape as well which doesn't seem like a big deal but when you use something for hours at a time and it can give you hand-cramp... I think it's important.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW yup i know that it's not the same thing .the response time and the pressure levels are far less even on the zbook x2 . I also tried different s pen and it's not the same thing than the pro pen 2 at all too but i think it's still better than n-trig . What you thing about it ? i see so many people doing illustrations with the surface pro but i tried the pen and for me it's just decent but i don't think it is a reliable tool for a professional . i agree also about the pen shape but this problem can be solved if you use a tab s4 - s6 stylus instead of the normal one . I think they are all compatible . if you have some 2 in 1 to suggest other than the c940 i will appreciate it . Ty for the info
Oh yeah, anything is better than the n-trig. That's why Microsoft no longer talk to me. I went from making videos at their HQ to not even getting emails back from them because I pointed that fact out. They are very touchy!!! They bought the 2nd best pen tech on the market at the time and turned it into one of the worst because they didn't bother developing it. All because Microsoft think that pens are only for note taking. They are run by the Office 360 team!! They don't care about artists. Really sad. Other than the c940 and the HP zBook, you can try the Dell Precision line. Once you get inside they are all the same specs. Really you are just looking at the screens and little touches. If you want the best for art then it's gonna be the Wacom MobileStudio but the specs there aren't as good - just depends what you need.
What is the difference between this belt and the pro 16?Can you do work in 4K with that tablet?
This does not have a 4k screen but if you are doing animation, video work that is 4k then yes it will show up on the screen - it just won't look as amazing. There are other differences too but mainly it is in the screen quality. Realistically it is about budget. If you are going to up your budget then I would recommend going for a larger size. Putting your extra money into the bigger screen rather than the better res' screen is a good option for a lot of artists. It really depends on what you are using the tablet for and where you are in your digital art journey. It's a very personal thing though and nobody can simply say that one is better than the other - except for their own needs.
Would I need a separate adapter plate for attachment to the Ergotron MX?
The plate only comes with the stand which Wacom sells separately. Bit of a catch 22.
Hi, Pia from Sweden here. I am an author and I am thinking of bying a Wacom Cintiq 16 to use for the pictures to my childreens book that I am writing. I have never used a tablet so I know nothing, absolutely nothing. I tested a Wacom Pro for a day, but did not like the fact that I could not draw directly on the screen, so therefore I am thinking of a Cintiq instead.
I wonder though - how do you get the software in to the tablet? Is it there from the beginning or do you download it from the Internet? And if you download it - how does it work? Is Cintiq like a computer with surf capacity or what?
When I used the Wacom Pro I had to download the drawing program to my computer, but when you show the Wacom Cintiq 16 it looked like you had the drawing program in the tablet - is that so? How did you get it to the tablet? Was it there from the beginning, if not - did you download it from the Internet or what?
What program do you use for drawing and is it expensive to buy? Right now I have donwnloaded the free software Krita to my computer. Is that a program you would recommend?
Best regards: Pia
A Cintiq is like a monitor. You still need to plug that into a computer. It will use whatever software you already have.
As an artist who works with a lot of authors I would say that if you are not used to creating artwork then maybe you should focus on the writing and hire an artist rather than trying to do everything yourself. I meet a lot of authors who do their own covers etc and unless you are a great artist then you are gonna hit a lot of heavy competition already on the market when trying to sell your book(s). Professional artists already own the software and know how to use it. You can focus on the writing and the promoting - even writing book number two.
Sorry. I know that isn't the answer you expected but that is my honest advice. The alternative is spending a lot of money of a good tablet and decent software (because the cheap tablet and free software won't cut it). You may as well spend that time at work earning money to pay a great artist to do the work right the first time and enjoy it for years!
Hope that helps!
Lawrence.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW Thanks Lawrence for your answer. Than I much better understand how to use it. The thing is that I love to draw and paint - I have actually been an art teacher once - so it would be fun to lift my art skill to a new level and make it digital.
As long as you're not doing it just to save money by not hiring an artist. Haha. I've seen it too many times. Buying a Cintiq, the software and wasting days/weeks/months trying to figure it all out is not really the answer that many first believe it is. I'm sure you can appreciate that. Also there's nothing wrong with a great bit of collaboration.
I will say though that digital art and traditional art are two very different things. A typical Photoshop brush works differently to a Winsor & Newton Short Flat Hog Brush obviously. While you can use knowledge such as colour theory, perspective, anatomy etc a lot of traditional skills will mean nothing when you try and apply it. There might be a lot of practice time to spend before you see the results you want on a tablet so don't be afraid of any upcoming frustration is all I'm saying. Check out Corel Painter which is the application that most emulates traditional painting tools. Although it is expensive you can get an 'Essentials' version which is awesome and more affordable. I was trained as a traditional artist but don't do any of that any more. I see so many try to transition. Some make it and some hate it. It's a journey either way. Hope you enjoy it. I just wanted to give you a realistic message rather than a simple one line reply! Have fun.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW wow condescending much. Your reply seems to be very subjective, and coming from a personal space. Never stop someone from pursuing their dreams. It is not your place, and you wouldn't be where you are now with your current skillset if someone told you " just stick to what you are good at mate". The path of creativity and self expression should never be mixed with the sole focus of profit. I applaud the lady for stepping out of her comfort zone. That is how we learn, grow and discover hidden talents within ourselves.
@@pialerigon9843 follow your dreams, you can do it. There are enough tutorials on here to help you get stated. My mum went from being a traditional artist to a digital artist with 30k followed on Instagram in 3 years. She never thought she could, but I pushed her and she now even has her own art gallery at 60 😉.
Im really curious about the glove, can I just use the garden gloves? stupid question. but I hope someone reply....
They're just gloves. I'm not wearing them like people wear those two finger tablet gloves - it's just cold here in the UK!
Do you know of a cheaper arm mount (under 100$ maybe?) for this tablet?
The Amazon Basics Arm amzn.to/2NzdP87 looks good BUT it doesn't come with a guarantee and hasn't been stress tested like an Ergotron arm - I also don't know what metals/parts it is made of. When you put expensive equipment on an arm, you have to be able to trust the arm - that's why I recommend Ergotron. Here's a link to the Amazon Basics version for you to check out but it's completely up to you if you feel like the cheaper option is good enough. I'm not saying this is bad but I never recommend anything I haven't personally tested for a good amount of time. Hope that helps!
I got one last week, the "paper" coating started scratching with 6 hours of use. Thinking it was a fluke i exchanged it for a second one and only 8 hours in to the second one the coating is already scratching again. I'm afraid what it will look like after a year of use. Just like you said, I am currently a "hobby" artist and can't just write off a $700 purchase. My good friend has a HD model with etched glass and it took him 3 years before he scratched it. Is it normal for it to be so easy to scratch? I dont press hard and I keep the screen clean and the nib was brand new both times.
That is bizarre. The only thing I can think of is that it was a bad batch. You are the only person I've heard this from so far though. I imagine you are just using the nib that is already in the pen and nothing else or cleaning with bleach. lol. Have a word with them and ask if this is a known issue. Ask if it's a known issue on the Cintiq 22.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW yeah I figured it was unique to me. Every reviewer I've seen says they are really tough to scratch. Its now been 2 weeks since my exchange and I cant return it now. Its not too big a deal since the scratches are not visible when the display is on. I can only see them if a bright light hits it in just the right way. But there are tons of them all over the screen now. The tablet is perfect other wise. It really sucks.
I have the wacom 13 inch , definetly this is better lol and then I wish the mobile studio pro!
I'm also going to release my review of the Cintiq 22 very soon as well and the review of this arm! Stay subscribed for those. Other tablets as well. The Wacom 13" was a good tablet but if you're improving as an artist then a larger tablet will certainly help your skills grow as well ;)
Which cheaper app would u recommend as photoshop replacement? :)
Depends what you are doing in Photoshop. If it's for drawing then try Sketchable. Grab that in the Windows Store.
Lawrence Mann Ty I’ll definitely try that
It's been a year. Can you give us an update on the Cintiq 16? Did the back of the plastic held up and did not break?
It's a fairly robust device and has lasted well. I haven't used it on a daily basis as I use the Cintiq Pro 32" myself as my main device but the Cintiq 16 is still going strong!
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW Thank you for the reply. I will order one today. I am too broke for Pro 32". :-)
Happy to help! As far as I understand the 32" hasn't sold that well for exactly that reason. However if someone sold a 72" I'd probably buy it. lol.
would you use this tablet for professional assignments?
Yes. It's probably the lowest spec tablet I would use. 16" is the smallest I would go!
Does it work with the new macbook pros M1 chip?
I have not tested it but there is no reason it should not.
do i need anything esle beside the tablet if i purchase it ..like plugging it into a monitor or computer
This is basically a monitor. You need a computer.
thanks i appritiate it 😁
Any time! Stay subscribed & spread the word ;)
Are these sponsored videos by wacom in the sense that they send you the product for a review or it a product purchased for channel content ?
No. I'll explain why. While Wacom send the products, there is no expectation of a positive review. I have a very long history with Wacom. I've been using Wacom products for almost 30 yrs and am very happy with buying Wacom products. Also with company, their service and the products in general. I know more about them and their history than most, given my experience.
Unlike many reviewers I do not sell the devices I review for profit. Sometimes I will donate them. My channel is not sponsored (even though i am brand ambassador for several companies - that's because i work with them to help improve their products). I always spend a minimum of two weeks with a product before reviewing it.
I make no money what so ever from this channel. In fact, it costs me valuable time & money to run. So I buy very few products to review. Even then I only buy very small items. My studio is already equipped for my freelance work so anything I do need to buy - I do of course review. I do have a PayPal donate button on my Channel page for anyone who feels generous and feels they have benefited from my content. Unfortunately this has only gotten me $5 in the last 2 yrs it has been there.
Going back to your question in more depth. Wacom know me as a professional artist who can showcase my talents on their tablets. I get emails saying 'do you want this?'. There isn't even the question of a review. Probably the assumption to be fair but I don't even get asked. At least not any more.
I've got a Wacom 22 that I never reviewed. Which kind of proves that point. I really must finish that and get the video out. Might be nice to do that soon. I've had it a while and it's been such a good tablet to have in the studio.
Hope that answers your question! I personally dislike a lot of other channels because they are sponsored and talk about VPNs, audiable or some learning website you can use their exclusive discount code at during their video. Those channels are just full time UA-camrs and not real artists. I don't trust their advice.
It's not a bad thing to get the tablets sent to you. Some companies will demand a positive review but you just put your foot down and refuse. They always back down.
I used to have a great relationship with Microsoft. You can see videos on my channel with me visiting their HQ but now they don't talk to me because I gave them bad reviews. I also am rough on Apple after being a user for 20 yrs so they don't talk to me either. The point is that being fair in product reviews doesn't always make you popular. Haha. I get a lot of hate in the comments too. I'd probably get more though if my stuff was sponsored too!
Hope that helps. I thought I'd give you a full answer because it's a serious topic. Many UA-camrs make their livings from selling you their opinions - I make mine from drawing.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW thank you for this. I dont trust alot of the reviews either given alot of what you said and wacom isnt cheap at all.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW This is a great response and thx for this breakdown. I am a 3d tech artist, who always wondered how the process works as well in regards to product reviews/ building relationships with brands and other artist, given i am looking into doing reviews. I never realized all of this was happening behind the scenes. I also give you alot of props for doing all of this at no profit . Do you have any other advice you can share ?
Wacom isn't cheap but I do out of my way to review all of the brands so I can compare the tablets. I've used drawing tablets for roughly 30 yrs and I do believe that Wacom is worth the money. The reason they cost more is because they put more into the R&D departments. They did all the development of the pen technology in the first place. They use higher spec components than others. Just look at the metal stand on this compared to the plastic stand on the others. It's the same with the internal components. Wacom spends more. I talk to people at each of these companies and I've had conversations and asked the questions about why do yours cost more and why is it better? Why can't you do what Wacom can do? I know the answers and it is really interesting stuff ...if you are enough of a geek. lol.
Happy to help. I've just had another person jump on me in the comments on this video about sponsorship. They attacked me straight away for being paid by Wacom though. That happens a lot!! (check that out). Any time you have a positive opinion about a product you'll get that. If you are negative you'll get hate on the other side. You can't win. Product reviewing is hard. You also will just get trolls just because people like to hate. You've got to have thick skin. I like to argue back which isn't always for the best but sometimes can work. haha.
If you real want the review A.S. then you simply have to do something that makes you different to everyone else. You can't be the same as all the others. I was different but my tagline of 'reviewing tech for professional artists and creatives' has been ripped off by someone else now :( No matter. I am a vastly superior artist :D and my channel is gonna change this year into something a bit different. There are too many out there that have started doing similar things.
I haven't seen many 3D tech artists reviewing stuff. Drop me a message on Facebook or Twitter. I might have a project we could work on together ;D I can give you more tips too!
Do you ever do any Wacom giveaways?
Sorry I don't do giveaways. Trouble is that you get people you win them and then say it never arrives or that it is broken etc. Giving away tech is a real problem because it is a minefield. Especially when so many people are suing people over giveaways now.
Lawrence Mann ahh. I never thought of that.. I guess I’m just curios to see the hype over the cintiq. But I don’t wanna pay for one lol.. I used to use the Intuos pro, but I Huion sent me a Kamvas pro 16 to try out and I’m in love with it
What I really wish these EXPENSIVE tabs had is wifi connection! I mean really, we are WAY ahead of that tech and should be able to use it on this stuff! Make creativity a whole lot easier without the heavy price tag...just a thought...!! I HATE CORDS!LOL
That would be cool but you'd have to have them be battery powered as well then to get rid of that cable. People would only complain about the battery life. It would make a basic tablet become super expensive. I do love the idea though. I think we would have seen more all-in-one tablets if Wacom's would have been more well received but it only proved that such a well crafted device was expensive to make.
Is it not 75x75mm vesa?
Pretty sure it was 100x100 but most plates have both anyway.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW Most arms have both 75 and 100. Doesn't really matter as you say. Thanks for the great and in-depth review of this device!
You don't make your own brushes or just using brushes to you is not a professional look?
I very rarely make my own brushes. Using other people's brushes is not professional in my eyes. I don't advise using other people's brushes because your artwork starts to look like other people's work. I think that is the basis of my argument. There is nothing that cannot be accomplished with the basic round brush with the tweaking of a few simple settings and putting in the time. A lot of custom brushes are simple time savers - which can be good for quick concept art but not for your best work!
I think a lot of artists out there make a good amount of money from selling young artists brushes. I think that can be bad. The idea that you buy those brushes and you can paint like the pro's is just profiteering. I might be making too much out of the whole thing but if you take the easy route rather than putting the time in you won't become the better artist.
i find out there's a new ghostbusters movie from a GODDAMNED CINTIQ REVIEW.
now i'm sad, because it's been delayed to next year (due to the plague)
You mean a DAMNED GOOD CINTIQ REVIEW ??!! ;) haha
lmfao you're not wrong!
I knew it!! haha. Stay safe, stay subscribed Quinn!
Wacom 21ux 10 years
Mine is still around somewhere. I prefer my 32" Cintiq Pro though ;) It's like having 2 x 21UX next to each other!
the tablet that makes me question my drawing skills. hahaha. I just love sketching.....I can't color shit...
The tablet will help you work faster but it doesn't make you a better artist. Minimum of 2 hrs practice a day will do that. And draw things you find hard. Not the same thing over and over!
is buying a $650 tablet really is being on a budget?
It is for professionals looking at the Cintiq Pro range. Or anyone who wanted a tablet with the Wacom Pro Pen 2 but couldn't previously afford it. It's all about point of view. Wacom pitches this as their budget/entry level tablet.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW I get where you come from, but wouldn't a professional use a Wacom pro lineup for their desktop set up? Why would a professional would use this lower cintiq lineup? It couldn't be to be on the go - 16 inches is to big for that- And they wouldn't use that for their desktop setup, I guess. Well, I'm just asking that because I'm JUST getting into digital drawing.
In these very comments you can find a Marvel & DC comic artist who uses this very tablet! I know pro's who use Intuos tablets too. People like whatever they like. I use the Cintiq Pro 32 and I think you are all crazy for not buying that but hey!! It's up to you. haha. Wacom aims this at everyone. Yes the Pro line is more for Pro's. The Wacom One is more for people just starting their journeys but your budget is completely up to you. A good tablet will certainly help make that journey easier. You can get cheaper but they won't be as good in my opinion.
Why the title is in french?
UA-cam translates the titles and descriptions based on your country. Sometimes this can happen if you also use a VPN.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW Thanks! And i forgot, awesome portrait sir!
Thanks Meme! Check out my portfolio to see more www.lawrencemann.co.uk if you want to see more!
if no shortcut on the tablet go garbage
Gürkan Draman the Cintiq Pros also don’t have shortcuts. So if you want to use the pro pen 2, the Mobile studios are your only option.
That's why I add a link to my playlist on alternative hotkeys options. The Wacom remote works great. I was skeptical at first but now I think it's better than the hotkeys being built into the tablet because it is more flexible and I can use it with any device and even when I'm not using my tablet. You could by a $10 Bluetooth micro keyboard which I have also reviewed. I have other options too! Check them out!! Good luck.
P.S. This portrait was done with the Wacom Remote. So just my opinion as the artist... not garbage. lol.
lol one man's garbage is another man's trusted money making drawing tablet, I suppose
Yeah Gürkan - Arif here is a DC & Marvel artist who uses this tablet! So maybe it's worth a 2nd look? Arif, what are you using for hotkeys?
Just a Bluetooth keyboard, really. I usually work with multiple pages at once, reading the script on the other monitor, and opening references. So I really need the flexibility of keyboard shortcut for better work flow