2023 Triumph Speed Twin 1200 Ride Review | The Bonneville that everyone loves?
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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Awesome bike, I own a 2020 gen1 and couldn’t prefer something else. Yes the new one has the better suspension in the front, but not the rear. I prefer the old set-up, soft overal, over the sporty front and soft rear. I found the balance better. And next to that, the gen1 red is by far the best paintjob on any of the modern classics out there ❤.
Totally agree and about to test ride the red 2020 model tomorrow
@@DC-nt3zk very curious about you opinion! Keep me posted!
@@moto.greaser took that test ride and what a bike 😃 ended up buying the 2019 model was getting a better deal with half the mileage and factory heated grips same condition same colour , red , but less money , pick the bike up on sat , cant wait 🏍️
@@DC-nt3zk that’s awesome! Cool to let me know! Wishing you a lot of awesome safe rides!!
@@moto.greaser thank you
Nice review. Back to back, the main difference from the previous model is the suspension which is truly awful on the 2019 version.
Having recently gotten a 2023, I can say that the suspension is still pretty bad (although better than the previous generation). The first thing I did was order a set of K-tech rear shocks and a K-tech front fork cartridge kit.
Cheers Kate and asking if I was OK when I was setting up my new Sat Nav. Didn't realise it was you. Thanks again. Andy x
My 25000km 2022 Speedtwin gets Brakes rebuild in the front and will be ready for next year blasting
Hi Kate, I brought my speed twin in 2019, rode it to work, sunny days out, toured Scotland three times covering 1800 miles each time.versatile!
Added a throttle spacer to stop the snatchyness, turned the throttle Into a switch. Lovely bike good at all I wished to do and in the silver a little bit of a sleeper. Then in June this year, whilst parked at work a delivery driver reversed into it and wrote it off. Time to replace…nice pay out……went and brought another one, is the new one an improvement, yes,better braked, less snatch, more lively motor, much better front end. If you use rain mode when it’s wet, road mode for almost everything else and reserve sports mode when the road allows its not an issue. Great do it all bike.
I also have a Thruxton r and I agree with you, that’s just special. Keep the vids coming.
Kate said something critical about the Speed Twin....and invites the Wrath of Hades to descend upon her 😂.....thank you for your honesty.
I have a 23 Speed Twin and agree. For the most part the throttle is silk smooth. At low speeds and especially if the road is bumpy things can get a bit herky jerk. Think this is a combination of a big twin with a lightened crank and a very light throttle spring. Very easy to give more throttle than intended when hitting bumps. Very small nit to pick on an otherwise great bike.
I am in the USA and envious of the great scenery you have. Enjoy your reviews. Ride fast and take care!
Wow, you articulated that a bit better than me haha
I have the same snatchy throttle issue with my Hornet CB750.
Nothing beats having a bike’s suspension changed to suit your weight. Finally did it after years of putting up with springs that were too stiff. Absolute game changer 🍻
Nice review Kate. I own a 2022 model. Mainly ride in road mode and have no complaints about throttle response. I'm small and light (65kg) and find the suspension on the comfy side. I can imagine if I was twice the weight it could be overwhelmed. I think for real world road speeds the power and torque with the sticky tyres are right in the sweet spot. It's not a track day weapon it's a great back road scatcher. The main thing is it rides great, goes well, is comfy, looks great, sounds great, and always puts a big grin on my face. What more do we want?
Suspension with all bikes, is set up for the weight of an average person. A heavier biker should know this, and although adjustable suspension might be enough, they have to be prepared to put in stronger springs soon after buying a bike. Same (but opposite) for lightweight people. They may seek out softer springs.
Those roads around Edgeworth and Haslingden are fabulous and the bike is right up my street with no quick shifter or blipper, what ever they are, no radar or tft but proper clocks. Tried a Thruxton but after a short time i had to visit a cyropractor far to focused for my older body.
doesnt matter if you are late to this bike Kate....youve grown so much as a reviewer this one feels like a Triumph!
I have the 2019 model. Great bike, love the engines low down torque and power. It is a smidge snatchy at low revs in sport mode so I just keep it in rain mode whilst in traffic. It's a real looker, one I'm proud to own and will be keeping.👍
I had a late 2021 model (so with the upgrades). The only part / spec I disliked - while I loved the twin dials - was that the speedometer was a little hard to read, though I know there's aftermarket gauges you can get that are a much cleaner design.
Best rides were a few 250+ mile days in summer. Felt so in tune with the bike by the end of those days and it handles really well.
Very, very good bike.
Thought it was a nice gesture to stop and check on a fellow rider. Good on ya! 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Try testing a Honda CB1100RS Kate. IMO its the best looking modern retro bike out there.
Nice Vlog with an honest ride review, enjoyable. I have the 2023 Speed Twin 1200 and put new exhausts. Brings a smile to my face every time I ride it. Rain mode is nice and easy. Road is torkey and fun. Sport mode I call Hooligan and makes me giggle. I agree with on/off snatchy feel particularly when I hit a bump and low/mid speeds. Rear suspension not matched to power of the bike. Will likely swap with Ohlins or similar. Love the bike, will keep for a long time.
Hi Kate
Great video. When you are riding those nice twisty roads can you give some indication of the road number. I quite fancy the Speed Twin!but also love the look of the Thruxton
Regards Richard
No cruise control... Only reason I got the scrambler 1200 over this.
I had a 2022 version... no disputing how good it is.... but I went from this bike to the Street Triple 765 RS...I Guess at 57... I dont feel that old that, I need the Speed Twin!!!!!!
I’m 42 and was thinking the same thing. Is it time yet? Nah not for me either 765RS it is.
One of the top three retro's out there!! Love my Speedy.....
Glad you love it ❤️ it suits you! 😊
@@UsernameKate You saying I'm old Katherine?
I would NEVER 🤭
@@UsernameKate Hmmm.......
It’s a great classic bike+ I always thought you traveled in rain mode up north 😂😂😂😂, joking of course 🤪😊👍
There are other modes to bikes? 😂
My buddy has one, but don’t ride it much. I asked him for first dibs when he sells it. So this was a very informative video. Plus I love to see my old stomping grounds.
Great video of a fantastic bike (in the best colour too). Love mine, and it looks and sounds even better with a full Hitchcox system on it! 👍🏻
I bought this bike the day you posted this video, purely by chance 🙂 so glad to watch and hear your thoughts, also hip cramps here
Brilliant review! Thank you! I can't wait for spring to arrive.
I can confirm the throttle is awful at low speeds. I commute to work on mine in London where they are a lot of 20mph zones a nightmare, Rain mode can help The only way around it is to fit a power commander tune
Ah yes, your weight problem.... Christmas is looming up upon us, an ideal oppertunity to add a few pounds to that frame of yours. I mean, if you wanna test a bike properly for us, then we need a good asessement of the suspension as well !
Another good rider perspective of a good looking bike... actually, you fair up quite well yourself, as well.
All in all, top marks for the both of ya. Thanks.
So a little snatchy and not a lot of suspension travel? Is the suspension a little clunky also?
Hi Kate, I've noticed you keep your visor up on under 40mph. It only takes a leaf, fly, debris to hit your eye to completely change your life. The main reason you keep your visor up is because of mist forming in the helmet. You can avoid this by not having the neck tube covering your mouth/ nose. Initially it would be uncomfortable change for you but the risk outweighs the reward. Great review and I'm a big fan. Thank you and all the best
Bloke at work got hit by a bug in the eye. Life changing for sure 😢
And she does not thank you for the tip 🙄.
@@rafalobo5308 That was not the reason for the tip.
Everyone should just ride their own ride and don’t be a bummer on someone else’s.
Always getting hip cramp - bloody painful! Why oh why - what’s the solution??? Great vid Kate
That was a great video Kate thank you. 🤗🤗. It sounded like my XJR and very similar in looks, what’s funny is on my bike it says 1300 but on the log book it’s a 1250. So it would be interesting if I rode next to that bike to see how it compares from a set of traffic lights. 😂😂
I had an XJR 1200 in 1995, great bike. I now have a Speed Twin 1200 and was amazed at how much it reminded me of the Yamaha of 28 years ago.
@@splodge5714 I can’t afford new bikes so I just watch these videos and dream 🤣😂🤣🤣. I was lucky enough in 2019 to be given a W reg XJR all I had to do was get it road worthy which only cost £150.00 then I saved up and in February this year found a 09 reg FJR 1300 I love them both but when I feel like being naughty I take out the XJR it’s amazing the difference. It’s so nice to be back riding after 10 yrs off.
@@ed7540I would still be happy with an XJR 1200/1300. A fantastic, smooth grunty engine and a good looking bike. Enjoy your rides.
You will become the 'torque' of the town riding on this magnificent bike !💥
Hi Kate,
I have the 2022 speed twin and found the throttle clunky as well. The Missenden flyer put up a video on a fix which is an easy fit spacer and it transforms the throttle immensely.
ua-cam.com/video/FXmNeg4fe1w/v-deo.html
I posted on your Thruxton vid about the price difference between these 2 bikes.
I cant see the justification for the Thruxton at £14,500 over the Speed twin at £11,500 as they are basically the same engine and frame.
My 22 model also has heated grips fitted as standard too.
Hip cramp yes, but for me it's related to multiple operations on a broken femur. Sports bikes are off the menu for me these days.
I know they are completely different bikes but I'm between this and the Street Triple RS for my next bike. My eyes are just drawn to both at the shop. If only I could have both!
Just get them both and smile every ride
I love these type of bikes, but the main issue I have with them is the price. For what you get, I think they're a bit overpriced when compared to other bikes. Obviously, the manufacturers are tugging on the old heartstrings! I was dead set on either a Triumph Speed Twin 1200 or a Kawasaki Z900RS. I decide to go with the Kawasaki Z900RS SE, the version with the Öhlins rear unit-yes, that's definitely the bike for me, and you won't persuade me otherwise, I'm sticking to my guns! Then the Suzuki go and announce the GSX-S1000GX! 😲
Looking at that bike, it does everything I need a bike to do, the specification is miles better than a Kawasaki Z900RS, or a Triumph Speed Twin 1200, and the launch price is £14,499! The Kawasaki Z900RS SE is £13,149. I plan to keep my next bike for a while, so I think a modern classic will have to wait for now-they are lovely, though! 💔
Having had adjustable suspension adjusted to my weight for years I can't go back, I might be better off with a thruxton and handlebar kit to achieve this type of ride
Great review Kate. Good on you for qualifying your comments on the suspension.
SO many vloggers make a ‘one off’ statement about ride quality (and handling) whether they weigh 5 stone or 25 stone. 🤷
I think that can be off-putting to a potential buyer. Keep up the excellent work.
I am an owner and never use sport mode! I only use road and have 0 issue with the throttle
Was I smokin the crack 😂 quality description as always Kate 😅. See you Saturday 18th 🤙
Good review kate....
I have a gen 1 2020 model and really love it....the wife that also rides a cb500x also enjoys the odd spin on it as it feels physically manageable.
Sports mode is definitely snatchy around town but fine when enjoying the bike properly. Not really a bike for long rides of over 100 miles.
Got a very capable tiger 1050 sport for comfort and wind protection. x
This or the Street Triple 765 RS? The latter for me. (I struggle with hip cramps too)
765 RS is more my kinda bike 😊
Hip cramp ? Yep me too.
I do have speed twin 900 and that is actually great bike ✌🏻
It's a lamb and a lion. Very docile and tame up to 65, then a yank of the throttle and it's like a turbo kicks in. I ride the freeways of southern California where 80 is the average speed. It's buzzy at higher rpms, but from 80 it takes off like a rocket.
Awaken the beast 🤣
"Look at the views" We can look at the views, you keep your eyes on the road! 😄 Great vlog Kate, looked like a fantastic day to be out on the twisties. Ride safe.
I have a 23 in Baja orange and I love it. As I`m getting on a bit I wanted to find my last bike, one to finish my biking career on, and I found the perfect partner with the 1200. I usually just keep her in road mode and fine the throttle response just fine. I can bit a little snatchy sometimes but its injected and its easy to ride around it. Don`t want anything else...
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Love the video Kate, and yes I get hip cramp as well
thanks a lot for a good review. it's interesting to see your comparing review of this machine and r9t)
Glad you liked it!
I have one it is just a beautiful bike amazing delicious
Beautiful roads, beautiful day.
Nice bike but a bit too expensive in my view
I have the 2022 Speedtwin, great bike, I pretty much agree with everything you said during your ride. The torque is an absolute game changer for overtaking and coming out of the bends, not many bikes will keep up with it. I have upgraded the rear suspension, and put a steering damper on (cost 1k) but this is mainly due to my own preferences when flying at speed on our crappy roads here in the UK. The Triumph heated grips work a treat and interact with the LCD dash.
Hello!
Marvelous roads, lanscapes, pictures and review, as usual!
Many thanks to you, and have a fine continuation.
😉👍👍👌
🥰 thanks
@@UsernameKate 😉👍
What music do you listen to when you're riding? AC/DC, LED ZEPPELIN, Pink Floyd, ZZ Top or the Spice Girls and Steps?
Hi Kate, really enjoying your reviews, would you have one of these or a Thruxton RS if you were going to run one of the two alongside your GS (I have a GS also and looking for a retro bike for a ride out Sunday bike)...
How does the low speed handling compare to the Thruxton? I had the 900 Thruxton for almost a decade and the only complaint I had was how sluggish it was in parking lots and very low speed maneuvering. Sounds like the weight of the Speed Twin takes a little pushing in the corners like the Thruxton, but would love to hear your thoughts on the slow speeds. The thought of a Thruxton like ride suitable for longer distances is appealing in the Speed Twin if the slow speed handling is also an improvement.
Hi Kate
It was good to get a unbiased review on the Speed Twin as I have just rebuilt a crash damaged 2016 Thruxton and a 2023 1200 Speed Twin with 94 km on the clock.
I am hoping to get it registered and give it a good test along side the Thruxton and see if my extra weight adds to the ride. As the Thruxton I have only has normal front telescopic forks and the same rear coil over shocks.
It was interesting to see your comments about the Throttle response I will check it out on both bikes.
Watching your blog reminded me just how narrow many of the the roads are in South Yorkshire where I first rode in the 60s
I am now in NZ with lots of bumpy roads and pot holes to navigate and test the suspension setups.
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Fantastic video Lady! I love your thrill of riding a parallel Twin Triumph every time! I have my Thruxton R with the Fairing and when I ride it, it's the grunt it has that makes me smile. Words cannot explain it! I have the Speed Triple RR, a Rocket III and my Tiger GT Explorer. The bike I will never get tired of riding is my beautiful Thruxton R!! I love that you appreciate the finer things in motorcycles. It's that visceral feeling that makes you fall deeply in love. You are a one of a kind Lady and thank you for that! 👍👍
Ride SAFE and BE safe Lady!!
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Where u riding Kate, looks lovely roads. Just stumbled across your video searching reviews. Really good review, definitely toying with this as my next bike when my current pcp expires on my Ninja SX.
I have the 2022 model, it's is Great! But ......... I've changed the levers to evotech, put the Ducati spacer kit in the throttle, YSS shocks and a tail tidy. Got rid of the stupid reflectors on the forks . Just have to do something about the horrible turn signals and there get a set of Michelin 5s or 6s, then the bike is done. It develops a fantastic amount of torque and speed very quickly. A totally AWESOME road bike.
I've got a 2023 and agree that the throttle is a tad jerky in sport mode unless you are actually riding a bit lets say enthusiastically, around town its better in rain or road mode which is plenty, the bike is fantastic, esp with different tyres, I fitted Avon Spirit ST's, the Metz are great on a dry warm day but crap in the rain or even damp, started riding mine in early May and its now got 8,500 miles on it, people say you can't tour on them, well I rode from Stoke on Trent over to Krakow via France, Holland, Germany then back via Germany, Belgium, Holland and France with not much problem, granted the seat gives you Monkey Bum but you have to stop every 120 miles or so to tank up, I'm more used to a tank range of around 250 miles on my other bike (Harley Street Bob,, 2007 Dyna with 76,000 miles on her), the Speed Twin is fun, fast, handles, stops but can also be a gentle plodder if you want it to be, front suspension is fine but the rear can be a bit sketchy when you push on a bit but that can be sorted easily enough, all in all its a great bike and a keeper for me, love my Scarlet.
I've test ridden the '22 model while my Tiger GT Explorer was in for service and took it round the Yorkshire Dales.. Crackin machine !.. The only quibble would be the rather cheap rear shocks couldn't handle the bumpy roads and it got a bit bouncy.
I'm very tempted to buy one but those shocks would have to go for some descent Olins with more adjustment..
Top review by the way 👏 👌
Throttle drove me nuts on mine to the point I sold the bike, found it awful to ride on a constant throttle around 30 - 40mph. Dealer told me it was due to Euro 5 regs. Great review though 👍
Hadir saudariku perjalanan yang indah dan menyenangkan semoga anda sehat bahagia dan succes selalu amiin
I'm 1.86m tall and weigh 110kg. I recently bought an ST 1200, ~500km from home and brought it back riding on it. Fantastic bike, comfortable, torque and cavalry waking up very early and big smiles on my face and no pain or after-effects afterwards. That is what I can comment so far! Nice videos, good winds for you all and keep safe!🙏🤙
I have a 2023 speed twin. Love the bike completely. My only gripe is the rear mud guard is pretty useless. Even riding when the road is slightly wet, my back seat and jacket get all the slush from the road.
nice cool looking bike ✌
Hip cramp is the worst. The ST seems to have increased in price rather considerably. Plus, it desperately needs its suspension sorted. A near miss, for me. Safe riding.
torque incl. a long lenght of handlebar , sure the resume is what it should be ...typical adventure bike experiances 🧐✌️🍀
I am a fan of British bikes. Currently restoring a 850 Commando and as a Canadian parts over here can be a challenge at times. I ride VL1500 V twin normally, my wife suffers from hip craps at times and is very painful. You are way too young for these pains, need more miles on yourself before you start having achy bones. Great video and thank you!
Hei Ka Nice review of Triumph speed 1200.Personally I feel the motorcycle might have been fitted with a Digital Speedometer and beneath Engine Exhaust system to give trendy looking new generation motorcycle.i liked your video 🎉
Replaced my z900RS with a speed twin recently….just fancied trying ‘the other one’. Agree throttle needs a bit of fine control as is ‘snatchy’. I haven’t had an issue as my 2020 Z900RS had the same issue so used to it. Great review… thanks.
I’ve got the 22 ST and absolutely love it. Changed back end to Ohlins piggy back, seat etc and it’s a superb second bike (For me). Enough power to keep you smiling and get out of any trouble, whilst still being ‘sensible’. Love the grunt (changed the end cans), it just puts a smile on my face compared to my more sensible ADV.
Love my 2021 Speedy. Upgrades: Ohlins, decat, sports airbox. The ohlins took 12 months to get here, but have changed the bike totally, no more choppy corners, just superb. The decat gives it a lively exhaust and poppy deceleration note and breathing better in and out there is definitely a few more horses running around. I won’t be changing it anytime soon!
Great review. It's nice to ride a bike as they were no electronic gadgets although l have 1250rs with it all. Do you get lots of wind blast?
I've been lusting after the speed twin, currently own a Tiger 900, test rode the Bonneville 900, really enjoyed the handling and how low it is, the sound is awesome, the T100 is lacking in torque compared to my Tiger ... so a 1200 twin with tubeless tyres would be nice. on a separate note I do not dare ride with the visor open, to many bugs.
Lovely review.
I really enjoy watching you at 3/4 speed. You sound like a proper southern lady, who may have been slightly over served.❤
Hi Kate, how do you like the Speed Twin compared to the Thruxton and heck why not throw in the Speed Triple 1200 RR too? I love the looks of these cafe retro looking bikes but interested how they compare. Thank you!
Great content Kate 👍 I also have the Speedtwin and love it, might get shut of my 900 Thruxton as I love the torque. That road at 14:41 is our mini TT circuit when we want a quick 20 min out, Us Darweners love it.
Watching on my Xbox so its on the TV thing. Also i got surround sound headset on. Good to see you having a blast down the local roads. The bit where youre behind the ford transit is the way i use to get home every night lol. When that was filmed though i would of been working overtime. The road to entwistle reservoir, seems a bit lumpy since the council "Fixed" it. I thought with the weather in the video youd have taken it through Ribble Valley over Jeffery hill then in towards Hornby.
Ha ha!!, I'm with you on the hip cramp thing Kate. It sneaks up on me now and again. Good review and as a Bonneville owner I agree that the parallel twin is a beautiful noise!
I can remember the first time I ever saw the Bonneville. It was 1970. I was around 13 years old.
I’ve got a speed twin , absolutely love it. I believe putting throttle spacers on stops the jerky throttle. Nice roads Kate where were you ?
Bike has nice classic lines. Maybe Throttle response could be a little snappy when the bike is cold. I have that by my little Honda when the bikes in first/ second gear. Nice review Kate.
Such a classic bike! Since the Thruxton is going away is this model sticking around?
seems that the handlebars should come back about 6" to be confy on the turns. is there more heat on the t120 vs. t100
I have a 2022 and the torque is intoxicating! I was laughing in my helmet for much of the test ride.
I ride a big bagger but this bike looks like a lot of fun, especially on those roads. Btw, I'm sure you're not the only one to get hip cramps. I get em from time to time. Ride safe!
As a former Triumph owner, I would definitely consider the 1200.
Hip cramp, yes, but only when I “pedal” past folks as a pisstake. #worthit
Dori? Nah! Kate suits you fine. Always makes me want to quote Shakespeare!
Bless you Kate, I am sure your brain is not a Dory kind, can I have mine in metallic orange please
Hi Kate, sounds like a nice bike all but with a few up grades, ie suspenion and a quick shifter, cheers, great review
Never mind the speed twin, come to Hull and ride my XADV 😌👍🏻
I have one the clocks can be a bit hard to read as the idiot lights are not well set sometimes I leave the left indicator going as the needle covers up the left turn light at a certain speed
The throttle can be a little bit snatchy mine you the bike hasn’t quite run in yet first service is due in 15 miles
I love the look of these. I had one as a courtesy bike from Youles last year and enjoyed it. I love riding that road too although you're right about that dip 😂
As per, great vid. It would be good to see your opinions on the bobber if you get the opportunity!
The Triumph is so nice 👍🏻
Super Video 😃 Dory🐟😅🙋🏼♂️
Be honest you really didn’t like it did you???
I did like it 😊