I've been thinking about SSJ4 and Wrathful Super Saiyan (or Super Saiyan Ikari). Wouldn't the latter just basically be golden great ape considering wrathful (or Ikari) is the power of the great ape (or oozaru) without the transformation. If that's the case, would you just need to be calm while in Wrathful SSJ\SSJ Ikari like with GGA to transition from those forms into SSJ4?
@@GBENT3 vegeta was confirmed to be slighty stronger and in dbs super hero vegeta even beats goku and dbs super hero takes place after the gronolah arc because they even got broly trainjng with them to defeat fireza
the last 2 remaining fighters could be Trunks and Goten. they get like no screen time and a training arc for them would be crazy, especially if they could use Gotenks during the Tournament.
Heck no. They just got their own arc in the manga and role in the DBS Superhero movie. Save the final 2 spots for either newer characters such as Gamma 1 and Merus, or heavy hitters who were in the previous ToP
@@XJSPlays02 you out of all people have not watched Dragon Ball. Goten has Higher Potential than gohon. Goten went SSJ from seeing it once in his life in like 5 seconds. Gotenks was holding his own against Buu but he is a little kid so he was trolling too much and got absorbed. We literally just watched Gohon go from SSJB level to Stronger than UI and UE from raging. What’s stopping Trunks and Goten from doing the same at this point. Also we literally just watched 2 people wish to be the damn strongest in the universe, and whis can transverse wishes like if they wished it for life span shortened whis could just heal them. Also the writing for dragon ball is horrible, Vegeta would rather him, his friends and family die than fuse with goku. Instead of making a whole new transformation for the first TOP they could have just fused as a last resort and let everyone learn new "Techniques" and "Transformations" for the second TOP.
@@shaolinfantastic9118 yea i feel you i feel like we need more in depth story lines and villains however rhe only eay i would like it if it was like a tourtament of power moment. Type thing where its a whole bunch of people being introduced in a arc. To where it doesnt need much explaining
@@Pinkarmada01 nah you shitting on yamcha too much just like the writers he was booted from the tournament of power because he didn't get any screentime and remember roshi was in tournament of power you know the immortal pervert
Remember when the namekians said the dragon balls were a challenge for the namekian warriors and when they complete that challenge they get a gift and such? I think that orange piccolo is that gift and such
We also have to remember. Even though Team 7 has grown insanely strong. The other universes didn't stop either. If I remember correctly even Jiren was telling Toppo they have to start training so next time they can win. So who knows how strong they could have gotten too. Like the last time we saw our man Hit he was almost single handedly beating Jiren.
18:41 The events of the Super Hero movie in the Manga take place AFTER the Granolah Arc (A good while after according to the dialogue) so Orange piccolo is close to UI and UE Goku and Vegeta.
How do you know that? We haven't seen those powers side by side, but probably he will be at the same level or more powerful so they have excuse for Goku and Vegeta to unlock a new and powerful upgrade.
We all know where this is going, using gohan and piccolo as a setup for motivation. Then poof, vegeta surpasses both, then goku gets an insane power boost. I just want to know the depth of broly's power. He harbors the same emotions as gohan, but, again, this is dragonball. He probably gets a different color transformation. Maybe a darker green and blue mix.
One thing that's always confused me is, in those 4 universes it's pretty obvious at that point in time Jiren was the strongest, but was anyone in those 4 universes stronger or was he just that guy?
Higher mortal level doesn't necessarily mean stronger. It means more developed, in fact it could even be argued that those 4 universes are weaker, they are just smarter.
The thing I love about Gohan Beast is the fact that Goku and Vegeta have spent years continuing train and fight enemies, thus hoestly their new transformations feel kind of boring as we've seen so many of them. But for Gohan he only generally trains to fight when he needs to, or temporaily increases his power enough not to be completly useless such as the Tournament of Power, but he always falls into letting himself get soft. We always saw Gohan had this primal strength buried deep within, but recently he'd just stuck to base form or normal Super Saiyan forms, but man Beast was a long time coming and I am so happy Gohan at least has SOMETHING around Goku and Vegeta's current level, same with Picollo, liek dude's been stagnating, he and Gohan NEEDED these transformations.
It was pretty stupid how Gohan was able to jump from TOP super saiyan god Goku to Mui Goku in the matter of a couple of days. That’s probably a bigger increase than friezes potential. Like let’s be honest, they pulled the beast form out their arse and if gohan can catch up to mui Goku in just a few days, then he could easily catch up to black frieza in like, two weeks. So stupid.
@@yadatada5556 Personally I hope they retcon it so that Gohan Beast and Orange Picollo are just at the strength of Goku and Vegeta using Blue at it's most powerful. Leave it to Goku and Vegeta to be the ones always pushing the farthest, but these ct as good power boosts for 2 essential members of the team. I also hope they just stop at Ultra Instint/ Ego. Like come on, they're already pushing their limits of believablility on these 2 without making Goku and Vegeta LITERAL omnipotent unbeatable gods. I hope these forms and Black Frieza are forms that no matter how hard they train are just not useable long term by mortals. We already know the Destroyers arn't evil, so they're no threat to the universe and after all Goku and Vegeta have done I'm dure despite his threats that Beerus won't ever destroy Earth, too many great fighters here and too much good food left to taste. I think Dragonball should just stop on the whole Goku and Vegeta pushign their limits thing. Have them actually finally reach their limits, and continue the series a bit more casually, maybe have old villains lie Cell retern and also get new forms and just generally have our characters go explore the other Universes, I'd love to see what they're like and see their heroes we saw in the TOP in action and fghting new villains.
@@yadatada5556 So tournament of power isn’t considered training ? Gohan was going toe to toe with dyspo who was dog walking golden freiza. Gohan always had that power in him as stated by both goku and vegeta. Now that he learned to use you wanna say it doesn’t make sense.
Bro i just love dragon ball, i love that determination to keep the anime alive and i love the fact it was one of our childhood's favourite shows and still till now ! I want it to end in a perfect way, in a way that makes all of us laughing while tearing that precious memories of enjoyment , sad moments , happiness , shock , theories and ideas , lessons that we learned from watching this great unrepeatable franchise ✨👌
The fact freiza didn’t kill them knowing that he could is an insane character development. No he isn’t good by any means but he does have a respect for those “monkeys”. Plus he no longer loathes them enough to want to kill them. He just wants them to understand that they will always be below him in power.
@@mafiozoo10 Now it is yes. It's basically become a bad fan fic to sell action figures and merchandise by changing the color of hair and making a ki blast more sparkly. It's retarded and low effort.
So we just gonna pretend Goten doesn't have the same if not more potential than Gohan since he achieved super saiyan at an even younger age than him and should have the potential to be devastatingly power if simply trained by literally anyone in the main cast Piccolo, Gohan, Goku, Vegeta, Whis, or even Beerus...
Vegeta might unlock form or match freeza's level as he's focusing on controling his mind in last manga. Vegeta understood what whis was trying to teach. Whis said it in last manga.
I don’t think it should be that easy considering we know how broken Frieza’s potential is. 10 years is a long time and there’s no reason to assume Frieza didn’t continue training in the chamber between granolah and super hero arcs.
Yes we definitely got stronger with the addition of Broly, Gohan and Piccolo's upgrade, Black frieza and maybe Buu could fight now. But I still think the other 6 pre-erased universes that Zeno erased way before the TOP is also brought back to life with 17's wish so they could have dangerously strong men as well which might be the reason they're erased in the first place
Not sure why everyone think freeza would re join universe 7. My guess is that where he went to train is a universe that will take him. I'd say he won't be on 7 but a stronger universe and his goal would be to wipe out 7.
Yeah, sorry. Gohan isn’t the strongest or even past the other two. This is basically Toriyama giving him a power slot that makes him different but comparable to the Ultra powers. This won’t be the Cell Saga all over again. Frieza is the peak player and also the greatest threat. The underlying idea being: Toriyama is largely off the cuff hype to sell new gimmicks. The overall story isn’t going to massively shift. It’ll always be Goku and Vegeta’s rivalry at the centre with the other support cast in face of a completely overwhelming threat.
Congrats on the video. I don't agree with you, however. For starters, there are 3 key players, that are not yet mentioned, if not 4. Goten and Trunks, and yes, they'll need to develop and participate, and Uub. And even Pan, but I still think she's too young. Second, and perhaps most crucial, remember that there was proposal for Frieza to join another Universe? That's a Tchekov gun, never show a thing if you're not going to use it later. And I believe that now, that Frieza is actually very, very strong, he'll be the bigger threat from other Universes. And they'll have, in the end, the moral dilema to bring back other universes or to keep Frieza actually dead... I imagine that Frieza will find a way to move between universes, to find richnesses or whatever. But I don't see him fighting for Universe 7 this time... But BRING BACK THE ANIME!!! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!! I'm 43 now!!! :D
Other than Jiren, Toppo and Hit, who else was really contending with universe 7? No one. These 3 would’ve had to have gotten much stronger to even hope to fight any of the new forms universe 7 got. But then they’d also need at least 3 or 4 more people around that level to help
@@keyneee1144 I thought it was also based on population, because if it's too low, then the god of destruction and the kai aren't doing their jobs correctly and letting shit get out of whack
@@Safalmao so you're telling me Gohan's eyebrows aren't white? The large hair is shading his hair, that's why it looks grey, yet you can look at his eyebrows and it's actually white, not grey nor silver, his eyebrows are white
The only problem is Black Frieza has no reason to join like he did last time and there's nobody that could really make him join so you'd have to exclude him from the team
Uub should be a member or maybe even gotten and trunks - in super hero, they were able to showcase quite a bit of power against cell max whilst being in a failed fusion. It was earlier shown that the same failed fusion was useless and powerless yet now can do damage to someone of that level.. imagine how much power they have when they succeed in fusion
@@michaeleverett1376 I think the last movie did a set up for her being cannon, as it mentions " Vomi", the name of the wife of dr. Gero who is the human base for 21.
Assuming teams are 10 fighters again. Goku, Vegeta, Granola, Frieza, Piccolo, Gohan, Broly, Perfect Cell Max, and the other 2 are probably people we haven’t met.
During Goku fight with Gas and Granolah. Goku stated that he couldn’t kept his heart calmed, which resulted in him not able to bring out the real power in PUI. So fighting Gas with TUI seemed more suitable for Goku. But Goku silver haired UI still his strongest form as long as he can keep his heart calmed. He got one shotted by Granolah due to the fact that he was nervous when he realized that he didn’t fight the real Granolah all along, which I think result in Goku PUI become weaker before Granolah one shotted him. While Goku’s battle with Moro, Goku seemed to be control in the whole situation which resulted in Goku PUI has become superior compare to his fights with Granolah and Gas. I’m not saying that Goku is stronger during his fight with Moro, but what I’m saying is that Goku can use PUI better compare to how he used PUI against Granolah and Gas. Due to the fact that Goku was more calmed when he fought Moro
Other universes: Hey, 7, is that old guy not competing again? Goku: No, he stayed home. But it's okay, I've been training someone to fill in for him. Other universes: Oh really? Who? Goku: _points at Broly_ Other universes: Hu, well that doesn't seem so bad.
If they change anything with granola i think it should be how he becomes the strongest. If he goes to universe 12 or something and trained with them it would make sense if he came back strong af
The best possible universe 7 team combination: -TUI Goku -Ultra Ego Vegeta -Beast Gohan -Dragon Piccolo -LSSJ Broly -Black Frieza -Granolah -Bring back Angel Moro from hell -Bring back Gas from hell -Bring back Cell Max from hell And that is the best possible combination for universe 7’s team in the next tournament of power.
Gohan is the true key to universe 7 success in raising the mortal level. I've been saying for yrs Gohan will become a supreme Kai , Goku angel,Vegeta god ,broly top 10 in the multiverse
Strongest Roster: Goku, Vegeta, Granola, Broly, Gohan, Piccolo, Meerus, Buu, 17, Frieza. Best Roster: Goku, Vegeta, Granola, Broly, Gohan, Piccolo, Number 17, Number 18, Gamma 1, Gamma 2. Gamma 1 and 2 should fuse, and 17 and 18 should fuse. Or, both 17 and 18 fuse with each of the Gammas. I think 18 will choose Gamma 1, while 17 will choose Gamma 2. This is because Gamma 1 is more serious like Number 18, while Gamma 2 is more for justice like Number 17. Goku and Vegeta probably won't fuse, but they might. If they don't, then either Gohan and Piccolo or more likely Orange Piccolo and Broly will fuse. No Krillin, no Tien, no Master Roshi, no Frieza, they can all watch from the sidelines or something.
The things you said about Dragon Ball and the ending of the tournament of power like in Mexico and other places is hilarious and super awesome. I didn't know about that that's really cool
i love the chances that 17 will be a member.. he was a great support and hes an android which is hax in this type of battles.. so my choices are 17 and buu or uub
Imagine how wild it would be if they made Super 17 from GT cannon but a good guy. Similar to broly. Would definitely give him an insane boost to hang with the bois in power.
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What about goten and trunks ....I mean what happened to them.... their power level they had so much potential liked to see them more
I've been thinking about SSJ4 and Wrathful Super Saiyan (or Super Saiyan Ikari). Wouldn't the latter just basically be golden great ape considering wrathful (or Ikari) is the power of the great ape (or oozaru) without the transformation. If that's the case, would you just need to be calm while in Wrathful SSJ\SSJ Ikari like with GGA to transition from those forms into SSJ4?
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The other 11 universes would need to form an all star team to contend with universe 7, especially if Granolah and Frieza are taking part.
me as i'm eating a Granolah bar : i'm sorry you are saying?
They dont need granola goku and vegeta basically no diff him after goku gets tui then vegeta gets confirmed to be stronger
@@pistolmann3608 tui goku>ue vegeta
@@GBENT3 vegeta was confirmed to be slighty stronger and in dbs super hero vegeta even beats goku and dbs super hero takes place after the gronolah arc because they even got broly trainjng with them to defeat fireza
@@pistolmann3608 he only won that cuz they were only in base form also I need the source to where it says vegeta>goku
the last 2 remaining fighters could be Trunks and Goten. they get like no screen time and a training arc for them would be crazy, especially if they could use Gotenks during the Tournament.
I want older Gotenks to look more like a Vegito type over looking like a young Vegeta
doubt it why would they chose them over a dude who's UI Level and an angel that knows UI
Heck no. They just got their own arc in the manga and role in the DBS Superhero movie. Save the final 2 spots for either newer characters such as Gamma 1 and Merus, or heavy hitters who were in the previous ToP
@@XJSPlays02 you out of all people have not watched Dragon Ball. Goten has Higher Potential than gohon. Goten went SSJ from seeing it once in his life in like 5 seconds. Gotenks was holding his own against Buu but he is a little kid so he was trolling too much and got absorbed. We literally just watched Gohon go from SSJB level to Stronger than UI and UE from raging. What’s stopping Trunks and Goten from doing the same at this point. Also we literally just watched 2 people wish to be the damn strongest in the universe, and whis can transverse wishes like if they wished it for life span shortened whis could just heal them. Also the writing for dragon ball is horrible, Vegeta would rather him, his friends and family die than fuse with goku. Instead of making a whole new transformation for the first TOP they could have just fused as a last resort and let everyone learn new "Techniques" and "Transformations" for the second TOP.
It'll be Uub, Granola, and Frieza. Maybe Cooler if he becomes canon.
It would be dope that one of the few universes has dragon ball gt folks in it
That would make GT canon 🔥
For me, GT was another time-line which is linked to one of these time-rings we saw in the Black Goku arc.😅
No, I'm ready to just move past GT. Most people didn't like it back then, and rehashing it again would only make me hate it even more.
@@shaolinfantastic9118 yea i feel you i feel like we need more in depth story lines and villains however rhe only eay i would like it if it was like a tourtament of power moment. Type thing where its a whole bunch of people being introduced in a arc. To where it doesnt need much explaining
@@dragonyanice971 lol no arguements there lol
We need to send Tien, and yamcha do different planets, procreate a bunch and bring the universe average up 💪🏽
I mean maybe send only tien, yamcha aint shit😂
How they gonna breath?
@@FatDraws14 bulma breathe on namek so not Farfetch
The mortal rating isn’t just based on strength. And after Moro I believe our level is the same our lower
@@Pinkarmada01 nah you shitting on yamcha too much just like the writers he was booted from the tournament of power because he didn't get any screentime and remember roshi was in tournament of power you know the immortal pervert
Wasn't the Moro arc where vageta learned spirit fission. Then he learned ultra ego in the granola arc.
Correct
Remember when the namekians said the dragon balls were a challenge for the namekian warriors and when they complete that challenge they get a gift and such? I think that orange piccolo is that gift and such
I think uub is going to make it somehow. It would be foolish to add him to the story and not use him
Did you not watch end of z
He’s to young and inexperienced he might accidentally kill somebody
"It would be foolish to add him to the story and not use him".
End of DBZ be like: 🤷🏾♂
GT was a thing
Didn’t use him there either
We also have to remember. Even though Team 7 has grown insanely strong. The other universes didn't stop either.
If I remember correctly even Jiren was telling Toppo they have to start training so next time they can win. So who knows how strong they could have gotten too.
Like the last time we saw our man Hit he was almost single handedly beating Jiren.
18:41 The events of the Super Hero movie in the Manga take place AFTER the Granolah Arc (A good while after according to the dialogue) so Orange piccolo is close to UI and UE Goku and Vegeta.
On par
How do you know that? We haven't seen those powers side by side, but probably he will be at the same level or more powerful so they have excuse for Goku and Vegeta to unlock a new and powerful upgrade.
We all know where this is going, using gohan and piccolo as a setup for motivation. Then poof, vegeta surpasses both, then goku gets an insane power boost. I just want to know the depth of broly's power. He harbors the same emotions as gohan, but, again, this is dragonball. He probably gets a different color transformation. Maybe a darker green and blue mix.
Vegeta and Goku not surpassing Gohan anytime soon cause gohan probably going train and Vegeta and Goku are equal to piccolo
@@breakablehate2207 oh hell no Goku and Vegeta are stronger than piccolo
@@Obiwithagun toriyama said Piccolo is on both of gokus and Vegetas level in the anime
There is only one way for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Gohan if only Gohan stops training again.
@@Anvaya24 or if they be in the time chamber
I’m just super hyped to see more of Broly and gohan
One thing that's always confused me is, in those 4 universes it's pretty obvious at that point in time Jiren was the strongest, but was anyone in those 4 universes stronger or was he just that guy?
Higher mortal level doesn't necessarily mean stronger. It means more developed, in fact it could even be argued that those 4 universes are weaker, they are just smarter.
@@keyneee1144 I highly doubt that.
@Tre Anthony but that's literally a possibility. What that guy said is true. It's not about strength, just development
@@calebrichardson5259 which would make those four universes more powerful and I can Guarantee you that they are on a different level.
No not at all they mention an ability to self manage and peace. They could just be smarter not stronger.
Since the one who created Cell Max is now on Bulma's side, then can we say that we can expect a Good Perfect Cell Max? 😅
Is it time, for Perfecter Cell?
@@KiryuZer0 yes, I'm thinking of Golden Black-Orange Beast Super Saiyan Rage God Perfect Cell Max LMAO 🤣
The thing I love about Gohan Beast is the fact that Goku and Vegeta have spent years continuing train and fight enemies, thus hoestly their new transformations feel kind of boring as we've seen so many of them. But for Gohan he only generally trains to fight when he needs to, or temporaily increases his power enough not to be completly useless such as the Tournament of Power, but he always falls into letting himself get soft. We always saw Gohan had this primal strength buried deep within, but recently he'd just stuck to base form or normal Super Saiyan forms, but man Beast was a long time coming and I am so happy Gohan at least has SOMETHING around Goku and Vegeta's current level, same with Picollo, liek dude's been stagnating, he and Gohan NEEDED these transformations.
It was pretty stupid how Gohan was able to jump from TOP super saiyan god Goku to Mui Goku in the matter of a couple of days. That’s probably a bigger increase than friezes potential. Like let’s be honest, they pulled the beast form out their arse and if gohan can catch up to mui Goku in just a few days, then he could easily catch up to black frieza in like, two weeks. So stupid.
@@yadatada5556 Personally I hope they retcon it so that Gohan Beast and Orange Picollo are just at the strength of Goku and Vegeta using Blue at it's most powerful. Leave it to Goku and Vegeta to be the ones always pushing the farthest, but these ct as good power boosts for 2 essential members of the team. I also hope they just stop at Ultra Instint/ Ego. Like come on, they're already pushing their limits of believablility on these 2 without making Goku and Vegeta LITERAL omnipotent unbeatable gods. I hope these forms and Black Frieza are forms that no matter how hard they train are just not useable long term by mortals. We already know the Destroyers arn't evil, so they're no threat to the universe and after all Goku and Vegeta have done I'm dure despite his threats that Beerus won't ever destroy Earth, too many great fighters here and too much good food left to taste. I think Dragonball should just stop on the whole Goku and Vegeta pushign their limits thing. Have them actually finally reach their limits, and continue the series a bit more casually, maybe have old villains lie Cell retern and also get new forms and just generally have our characters go explore the other Universes, I'd love to see what they're like and see their heroes we saw in the TOP in action and fghting new villains.
@@yadatada5556 So tournament of power isn’t considered training ? Gohan was going toe to toe with dyspo who was dog walking golden freiza. Gohan always had that power in him as stated by both goku and vegeta. Now that he learned to use you wanna say it doesn’t make sense.
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I want it to end in a perfect way, in a way that makes all of us laughing while tearing that precious memories of enjoyment , sad moments , happiness , shock , theories and ideas , lessons that we learned from watching this great unrepeatable franchise ✨👌
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Having Broly alone makes a huge difference already.
Power scaling is impossible in DB, they already have the strength of gods or even surpassed that and seems like it’ll never end
The manga firmly shows that goku and vegeta haven’t surpassed beerus yet. New statements even say Frieza is closer to a destroyer’s power than them.
The fact freiza didn’t kill them knowing that he could is an insane character development. No he isn’t good by any means but he does have a respect for those “monkeys”. Plus he no longer loathes them enough to want to kill them. He just wants them to understand that they will always be below him in power.
you also need to understand he probably realize it more beneficial if there alive with how chaotique the universe is they need strong protector
@@painvillegaming4119 true. I don’t think freiza seeks destruction anymore. As he hasn’t killed anyone of even destroyed a planet.
@@Chrisp707- he destroys planets just not as much probably looks at the what planet has and could provide
@@painvillegaming4119 actually, I think frieza shifted from destroying planets to conquering planets.
Yeah he's nearly hit anti-villain status. Sure, he's an evil bastard, but one you can work with under the right circumstances.
Would be more interesting if the 11 Gods of Destruction fought the 11 best fighters, Gods vs Mortals instead of the same rinse and repeat.
I wonder if we’ll see Jiren and Top again, like if Top and Vegeta get a GoD rematch and if Jiren has unlocked a new form. That’d be so dope
Yeah just what dragon ball needs. MORE transformations…the show is such ass.
@@tomsnowden6201 isn't this show all about transformations? Even the villains have transformations 🤔
@@mafiozoo10 Now it is yes. It's basically become a bad fan fic to sell action figures and merchandise by changing the color of hair and making a ki blast more sparkly. It's retarded and low effort.
@@tomsnowden6201 so ass but u on the video hating and dbz still has a large ass fanbase to this day 😭
@@toptiercrip plenty of dumb shit has a large fan base, doesn't make it good 👍
9:15 Whis was dirty for drawing a target on Goku for Granola to use.
So we just gonna pretend Goten doesn't have the same if not more potential than Gohan since he achieved super saiyan at an even younger age than him and should have the potential to be devastatingly power if simply trained by literally anyone in the main cast Piccolo, Gohan, Goku, Vegeta, Whis, or even Beerus...
I wonder if Broly and Gohan will do a fusion seeing that both of them are beast by nature 👀🤔
Bruh that's too op wah beyond over 9000💀
I was just thinking this... "Legendary Beast"🤣
Gohan and his Orange Dad :)
@@mengzilla6496no.. just no
Been waiting for these two to fuse. Two rampaging beast!!
it would be nice if they made Pikkon a canon character and put him in the team
I can just imagine Goku & Vegeta unlocking UI & UE in third episode, and Vegeta saying " Kakarot now we can break our limit"
Vegeta might unlock form or match freeza's level as he's focusing on controling his mind in last manga. Vegeta understood what whis was trying to teach. Whis said it in last manga.
I don’t think it should be that easy considering we know how broken Frieza’s potential is. 10 years is a long time and there’s no reason to assume Frieza didn’t continue training in the chamber between granolah and super hero arcs.
Gohan isn't stronger then goku or vegeta. Piccolo said MAYBE
Yes we definitely got stronger with the addition of Broly, Gohan and Piccolo's upgrade, Black frieza and maybe Buu could fight now. But I still think the other 6 pre-erased universes that Zeno erased way before the TOP is also brought back to life with 17's wish so they could have dangerously strong men as well which might be the reason they're erased in the first place
If Universes 13-18 got erased, they couldn't have been that great.
@@TheHobgoblynthat’s a big assumption to make. There could be other reasons. For all we know, they could have been very chaotic.
Super saiyan rosé for broly as new form would be sick
I love piccolo have his PU form and a the buff gold form
Not sure why everyone think freeza would re join universe 7. My guess is that where he went to train is a universe that will take him. I'd say he won't be on 7 but a stronger universe and his goal would be to wipe out 7.
Which would be better dudes a menace and I’d rather him stay that way
I feel that there is wasted potential for Tien, Yamcha, Krillian, Trunks, And Goten. They all need a buff.
Trunks and goten for sure
Trunks and goten stop training, the rest are human
Yeah, sorry. Gohan isn’t the strongest or even past the other two. This is basically Toriyama giving him a power slot that makes him different but comparable to the Ultra powers. This won’t be the Cell Saga all over again. Frieza is the peak player and also the greatest threat.
The underlying idea being: Toriyama is largely off the cuff hype to sell new gimmicks. The overall story isn’t going to massively shift. It’ll always be Goku and Vegeta’s rivalry at the centre with the other support cast in face of a completely overwhelming threat.
Broly is a bit the freeza of the sayans. He s also, kinda a mutant, much stronger than the average sayan.
I checked 17 wished all erased universes back including the ones before the tournament of power i think frieza did his training in one those
he did it in a time chamber
I’m pretty sure goku and vegeta are currently training to surpass frieza once again
Even if that’s the case they would need more than 10 years worth of training to catch frieza now I don’t think they get there at time soon
Congrats on the video. I don't agree with you, however. For starters, there are 3 key players, that are not yet mentioned, if not 4. Goten and Trunks, and yes, they'll need to develop and participate, and Uub. And even Pan, but I still think she's too young. Second, and perhaps most crucial, remember that there was proposal for Frieza to join another Universe? That's a Tchekov gun, never show a thing if you're not going to use it later. And I believe that now, that Frieza is actually very, very strong, he'll be the bigger threat from other Universes. And they'll have, in the end, the moral dilema to bring back other universes or to keep Frieza actually dead... I imagine that Frieza will find a way to move between universes, to find richnesses or whatever. But I don't see him fighting for Universe 7 this time... But BRING BACK THE ANIME!!! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!! I'm 43 now!!! :D
Other than Jiren, Toppo and Hit, who else was really contending with universe 7? No one. These 3 would’ve had to have gotten much stronger to even hope to fight any of the new forms universe 7 got. But then they’d also need at least 3 or 4 more people around that level to help
I thought Higher Mortal Levels didn't necessarily mean they were stronger.
Higher Mortal level means that it's a more developed universe. Not necessarily stronger, more on smarter.
@@keyneee1144 I thought it was also based on population, because if it's too low, then the god of destruction and the kai aren't doing their jobs correctly and letting shit get out of whack
Beast mode is what ultra instinct should've looked like
Not really, beast hair is white, beast is its own thing, ultra instinct shouldn't look like a Saiyan form, should look like a god technique
@@breakablehate2207 oh not the "ITS TOTALY DIFFERENT ITS WHITE NOT SILVER", stop defending it..
@@Safalmao so you're telling me Gohan's eyebrows aren't white? The large hair is shading his hair, that's why it looks grey, yet you can look at his eyebrows and it's actually white, not grey nor silver, his eyebrows are white
Goku: *learns about bardock and develops saiyan pride*
Vegeta: Atta boy Kakarot
amazing vid
I want to see an ultra ego Ultra Instinct Fusion.
same soo bad, hopefully they did it in a new movie like 2024.
The only problem is Black Frieza has no reason to join like he did last time and there's nobody that could really make him join so you'd have to exclude him from the team
People in the comments totally ignoring the possibility that the other universes are training just as hard
T.O.P arc was so popular it literally broke the internet.
Damn, please we all want gohan to surpass the og saiyan
He been did in the movie
Surpassed Broly too
I feel like the next tournament will probably be a death battle ☠️ and I’m worried for the other universes…. Friezas gonna have a field day
Uub should be a member or maybe even gotten and trunks - in super hero, they were able to showcase quite a bit of power against cell max whilst being in a failed fusion. It was earlier shown that the same failed fusion was useless and powerless yet now can do damage to someone of that level.. imagine how much power they have when they succeed in fusion
I see nice videos though always love them
18 needs to be back for the 2nd ToP. She's the only female fighter in universe 7 that could hang with the boys. She deserves a power up
Nah no one gives a fuck about her
Exactly universe seven need more powerfull women fighters.
@@Slampty If only android 21 was canon.
@@michaeleverett1376 I think the last movie did a set up for her being cannon, as it mentions " Vomi", the name of the wife of dr. Gero who is the human base for 21.
Nah
Merus is still powefull and we cannot forget the MVP of the last tournament, his stategic and no nonsense aproach to fighting is an asset.
Love your vids keep up the good work 👌👌
Eeeeverybody forgets about Ub…
As of now beast Gohan is the most powerful character in dragonballs
nope frieza is defintly is.
Frieza is. well at least in Universe 7
The fan base used to all ways say what if Frieza actually trained...Too fun
Assuming teams are 10 fighters again. Goku, Vegeta, Granola, Frieza, Piccolo, Gohan, Broly, Perfect Cell Max, and the other 2 are probably people we haven’t met.
when i get off earth, meet me on mars to spar.
8:55 Beerus: That’s why there’s no limit to my power! My minds always on destruction and nothing else! … *cough* Well, that and food 🥘🍨
During Goku fight with Gas and Granolah. Goku stated that he couldn’t kept his heart calmed, which resulted in him not able to bring out the real power in PUI. So fighting Gas with TUI seemed more suitable for Goku. But Goku silver haired UI still his strongest form as long as he can keep his heart calmed. He got one shotted by Granolah due to the fact that he was nervous when he realized that he didn’t fight the real Granolah all along, which I think result in Goku PUI become weaker before Granolah one shotted him. While Goku’s battle with Moro, Goku seemed to be control in the whole situation which resulted in Goku PUI has become superior compare to his fights with Granolah and Gas. I’m not saying that Goku is stronger during his fight with Moro, but what I’m saying is that Goku can use PUI better compare to how he used PUI against Granolah and Gas. Due to the fact that Goku was more calmed when he fought Moro
Anybody still remember how Vegeta did Napa but is upset about how much he his entire race?
This whole video is a "But Waiittt....There's more!!!"
Other universes: Hey, 7, is that old guy not competing again?
Goku: No, he stayed home. But it's okay, I've been training someone to fill in for him.
Other universes: Oh really? Who?
Goku: _points at Broly_
Other universes: Hu, well that doesn't seem so bad.
Don't forget it was 18 universes in total
Thought it was 12?
@@hahahaClowns 6 were erased before the tournament
Y’all do remember the other universes didn’t have to fight because there were about that life right 😂😂😂
Your videos are too tier with the comedy, gifs and explanations lol ‼️🥳🥳
19:20 piccolo got orange justice lol
to be fair, mexico's lap dances are already a 99% discount
Maaaan, whatever comes the way of just Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Frieza and Piccolo. Better come in with some power 😳
Ever since Roshi threw hands with Jiren i think a toddler came up with the power scaling
Roshi never threw hands. All he did was imitating UI
@@KingVictor7 doesn’t matter the power scaling makes no sense because black frieza speed blitzed MUI Goku so speed should be a factor
If they change anything with granola i think it should be how he becomes the strongest. If he goes to universe 12 or something and trained with them it would make sense if he came back strong af
What if Gamma one helps 17 become Super Android 17 👀
Yeah Gamma isn't interesting as 17, they could use him to permanently fuse with Gamma giving him the ability to be Super 17
Justice for piccolo came in the form of orange piccolo huh, one might say it was some “orange justice” 😏
The best possible universe 7 team combination:
-TUI Goku
-Ultra Ego Vegeta
-Beast Gohan
-Dragon Piccolo
-LSSJ Broly
-Black Frieza
-Granolah
-Bring back Angel Moro from hell
-Bring back Gas from hell
-Bring back Cell Max from hell
And that is the best possible combination for universe 7’s team in the next tournament of power.
Gohan is the true key to universe 7 success in raising the mortal level. I've been saying for yrs Gohan will become a supreme Kai , Goku angel,Vegeta god ,broly top 10 in the multiverse
Future Trunks should be in the next tournament of power.
The editing in this video is immaculate 👌💯
Strongest Roster: Goku, Vegeta, Granola, Broly, Gohan, Piccolo, Meerus, Buu, 17, Frieza.
Best Roster:
Goku, Vegeta, Granola, Broly, Gohan, Piccolo, Number 17, Number 18, Gamma 1, Gamma 2.
Gamma 1 and 2 should fuse, and 17 and 18 should fuse. Or, both 17 and 18 fuse with each of the Gammas. I think 18 will choose Gamma 1, while 17 will choose Gamma 2. This is because Gamma 1 is more serious like Number 18, while Gamma 2 is more for justice like Number 17.
Goku and Vegeta probably won't fuse, but they might. If they don't, then either Gohan and Piccolo or more likely Orange Piccolo and Broly will fuse.
No Krillin, no Tien, no Master Roshi, no Frieza, they can all watch from the sidelines or something.
great video man
We should all know this by now the stronger the good guys are means that the bad guys are also going to be overpowered
The circus music always gets me
The things you said about Dragon Ball and the ending of the tournament of power like in Mexico and other places is hilarious and super awesome. I didn't know about that that's really cool
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keep up the Good work Anime Balls Deep
Put broly in the time chamber for 3 months and watch what happens
Moral of the story is : This is not even my final form.
i love the chances that 17 will be a member..
he was a great support and hes an android which is hax in this type of battles..
so my choices are 17 and buu or uub
"black frieza's hands are rated "E" for everyone"🤣
Imagine how wild it would be if they made Super 17 from GT cannon but a good guy. Similar to broly. Would definitely give him an insane boost to hang with the bois in power.
Exactly what I’m hoping for next with android 17
That Goku susanoo form 2 with Sasuke reference took me tf out 💀💀💀
Gohan enraged has a history of dropping bodies in canon and non canon his got a scary side
Prince of “ALL” Saiyans
Orange Piccolo is on par with Goku and Vegeta AFTER the Ganola Arc, which is when the superhero movie took place.
Now imagine granola learning special beam Cannon
It is the fact Broly as a toddler is almsot close to Raditz power level which was said to be 1,500
Broly’s power as a baby was stronger than 24 y/o goku and piccolo in the first episodes of dbz. “That’s what makes him legendary”
Whis and Beerus must be so proud
Imagine Brohan. (Gohan/Broly) Way stronger than any other fusion
Black Frieza got these hands rated E for everyone 😂😂😂😂😂😂 this was a awesome video