A Word about Leveling in FF6 Pixel Remaster! HOW TO GET STATS IN FINAL FANTASY 6!
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
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Perhaps you have not played Final Fantasy 6 for a while, or maybe FF6 Pixel Remaster will be your first adventure with the game. In either case, we should understand how stat gains work here (BEFORE we play) as the mechanics work a little differently to later Final Fantasy games. In FFVI, if you go rushing into early level farming you may end up regretting this later on when you realise you can't boost your stats as much as you otherwise could have. This is because, the only way to gain stats like Vigor (strength) and Magical Attack are to level up when certain ESPERS are equipped on your characters.
Since we don't get these Espers until much later on during our playthrough it can actually be counter-intuative to level up early as this reduces the amount of times you can level up later, with the Espers equipped providing those lovely stat gains.
Of course, as with any Final Fantasy game, how you choose to play is entirely up to you. If you still want to level grind early, that's absolutely fine! I just want you to be able to make an informed decision about leveling so that you don't get frustrated later because you simply did not know how stat gaining worked when you began your adventure.
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Intro - 00:00
Context (IMPORTANT) - 00:23
New? - 01:37
Stats Overview - 01:51
The 'Problem' - 02:18
Solution 1 - 03:28
Solution 2 - 03:56
Solution 3 - 04:31
Esper Spoilers Ahead - 05:07
Stat Maxing Guide - 05:30
Conclusion - 08:12
Thank you! - 08:22
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Of course, as with any Final Fantasy game, how you choose to play is *entirely up to you*. If you still want to level farm early, that's absolutely fine! I hope my video helps you to make a more informed decision about leveling so that you don't have to get frustrated later on. Personally, I will not be avoiding enemy encounters - but I will not be seeking them out either (I will resist my JRPG itch for early farming)! This should give a good balance for gaining additional stats later on. Thanks for watching and please subscribe for future FF6 content!
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Stamina also affects how instant kill abilities/status ailments will affect your character. A character with high stamina has a higher chance of causing a spell like break/death/banish to miss.
If the version you're playing has the Cactuar Magicite consider giving it to characters like Locke(for stealing) or Cyan(so his Bushido/SwordTech fills faster). It gives a +2 Speed on level up.
It won't have it and even on the GBA version speed is STILL useless Sword Tech still takes too long with 255 Speed AND Quick used I'd rather have Cyan just fire 5000+ damage Ultima spells instead
Stamina also causes INCREASED POISON damage every turn which why increasing it sucks.
I wish the difficulty scaled. I'm always too strong by the time I get to Kefka. 😭
Just kill bigs and wedge at early game so terra can level up to 6 and then before fighting ymir grind to at least lv 9 so locke can defeat captain guard easier
Thumbnail: ABSOLUTELY SUPLEX THE TRAIN.
Pretty solid video summarizing these mechanics. I was years into playing this game before I found out a lot of this. I like to remind folks that this is a game that really doesn't need any optimization, you'll naturally acquire most of the skills you need to advance without a ton of grinding and while some characters are objectively more useful than others (in terms of mechanics) you don't *need* to use the "best" party if you enjoy using other lineups. There's a rich world to explore and tons of backstory and hidden character scenes, so if you're new to the game I hope you enjoy it!
(P.S., I've played through at least a dozen times and I've never gotten close to level 99; anything over the mid-60s and you'll probably WRECK the endgame bosses. I've also beaten the game using only 3 characters leveled to the low 40s, so...)
If you level ip Cyan’s magic pwr, equipt him with the genji glove and offerring relics, than equipt him with two Tempest swords, he can do 9999 to all enemies on the screen up to 8 times.
Good trick to destroy Kefka in one turn
Before you "attack," cast the magic Quick on yourself. You'll get to attack back to back, basically doing 16 hits consecutively.
@@alexanderplatypus3664 same with stealing a ragnarok sword from kefka and throw it at him with shadow!
@@IamLegend32 just a SLIGHT overkill. But only by a small amount haha
@@rossmcgarry7651 haha but Kefka deserves it! 🙂
Interesting video. If adopting a completionist mentality, or close to it, is your thing in regard to stats, then have at it - that's kind of cool. But for the average player, it doesn't matter. You're going to be absolutely destroying everything in your path by playing normal, being leveled up, and getting the good gear and magic. Have fun, and enjoy this classic! I can't wait.
Very important to note, leveling without espers does increase the most important stat...your level. It is factored into damage calculation. This isn't ff8, enemies don't level with you. I just hate running from everything and you do get some really fun abilities in the early game in ff6 to be running from everything.
False, you didn't play final fantasy vi
@@vicentemartinez6318 the numerical value of your “level” is used in the damage calculation’s a lot throughout FF6. It’s used along other stats but it is a big factor in determine the strength of an attack. Alan is correct
Most people dont' reach max level anyways so even if you grinded a little more at the start you can still make up for the loss of early stats later. The difference being that the early game will be much easer with a few extra levels under your belt.
This mechanic drove me crazy back in the day. I remember running from most non essential fights all the way up to around the time you meet up with General Leo. My characters were so weak, but I didn't want to level them up without having an esper with a strong stat bonus.
Facts
What did you do when you finally realized none of it mattered lol
Thank you Fuzz, will keep this in mind
Unless you want to max stats specifically, the "middle ground" option is more than fine. Don't grind until Espers, but don't obsess about perfect stats, because your party becomes overly powered way before max stats. I personally am going to get everyone 9999 hp, 999 mp, at least 1 max stat that makes sense with the character and speed for most.
Many people end up just doing a low level challenge.
I can’t remember. Does Odin or Raiden have the speed boost?
I remember one play through I decided not to level up that magicite specifically to keep a certain start boost.
@@justjunk7474 Odin, once you switch to Raiden you can't get +1 speed at level up anymore. No Cactaur in this version
Most character MAX hp boost are from 50-60. So if you equip one of the espers that give 50% or 60%. You only need to do 3 levels each for MP and HP for every character to max out both HP and MP by 99.
@@JobeStroud Very interesting. I love when my interest in the game rekindles.
I think my next self challenge will be no Espers, low level. (Definitely not a hardcore one at all).
IMHO - Even if you plan on doing this, you don't even need to stat-boost more than 4 people and even that is a bit of a stretch.
Just choose which 3/4 you want to focus on and send each one INDIVIDUALLY into the dinosaur forest and have them level ALONE. They will level up faster, and it's easier to switch out the espers since you're only leveling 1 character at a time. If they have a hard time dealing with the mobs at first, you can send them in with a companion that you're not interested in stat-boosting (Umaro/Gogo are perfect companions) to help out until the main character is able to handle the mobs alone.
Best advice here
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An option could be to turn the exp gain to 0x in the settings, if you feel that you could handle the early bosses without leveling up.
The Pixel Remasters allow you to turn off random battles, so it is going to be really easy to avoid over-levelling if you play that version. I think the EXP multiplier might even let you decree the amount of EXP you get, so you can still have battles if you want, while slowing the rate at which you level.
This is not true for the Steam version unless they patch the extras they included into the console versions in at some point. This video was made when it came out on PC.
Thank you sooooo much you saved me alot of time just got into my playthrough and had no idea they do that in this. I have played ff9 so i get the concept but didnt realize it was in this as well.
First time playing this one, so appreciate the tip. Usually grind for hours right from the start.
Correction: Vigor becomes useless after 128. However, Magic Power continues to get stronger after 128, although the improvement is really only useful if you want to get low level spells to do 9,999 damage or utilize certain exploits (Cyan, Gau, etc.) Caution: magic damage can overflow and start back over at 0 if it gets TOO high and you cast the strongest of magic such as Ultima.
someone else reports that magic over 127 is where the stat reset point is, this would be good to know so magic isn't grown too high.
The way I go for seriously high stats for everyone (not in full detail but a somewhat quick note)
Up until you hit the floating continent run from every thing possible only leveling if you get KOed by a boss you can't beat , then when the FC is available level up to at least 35 while focusing on MAG and VIG respectively per type of character you want (don't have to do it on the island just need to unlock and have access to the first 12 ,I think in some version you had tobat least visit the FC .last 2 heroes don't gain stats) .
Keep Celes at least 4 levels lower than every else then Sabin and Edgar at least 3 and setzer 2 then I suggest getting MOG next so you can run around encounters free collecting everyone well for the most part ( I usually stack the heroes levels in the order I'm collecting them by 1 level so I don't waist any levels). Also when leveling on the floating continent try and steal from has many dragons has you can so you have at least like 8 genji gloves so everyone has access to an end game shield (or so you can dual wield excessively lol)
Oh and doing level 99 runs I don't actually take everyone upto 99 I take them up to 97. The one hit spells in Kefkas tower are level 3 and 5 spells so if you are not a level that is divisible 3 or 5 they dont hit. And when doing this I only have to add one more HP level (Bahamut equipped ) and do 4 (or 5 if I messed up) of them
And don't forget to take advantage of the veldt to teach everyone the important spells.
I really do enjoy this game and still wonder if wind God gau and/or psycho cyan will be in this version or not
It's BEST To GET "Mog" EARLIER Because If You "Don't" You TOTALLY MISS OUT On His "Water Harmony" Dance(Which Can ONLY Be Gotten In The WoB(World Of Balance)). I Always Got Him IMMEDIATELY AFTER "Terra" Rejoins" When You First Get The "Airship" After "Vector" And Then WENT And Got It In The "Serpent Trench". He ALWAYS JOINS At "5 Levels Higher Than" Your "Average Party Level" So You Can STILL Get The "Stat Boosts" For Your "Other Main Characters" UP TO "Mog's" Level At That Point. Yeah, Mog Has A MISSABLE Dance In This Game. Like I Said, It's "Water Harmony" And The "Word Of Balance" Is Your ONLY CHANCE For It. To GET Mog In The "World Of Balance", You Have To Find "Lone Wolf" In The "Treasure House" In "Narshe" And FOLLOW HIM Into The "Mines" All The Way To The "Frozen Esper" And Then He'll Be Holding "Mog" Hostage. There, You WAIT, And Then Your Prompted With A CHOICE. THAT Is Where You PICK "Mog"!
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Love your content buddy especially ff8 triple triad videos. I thought I was the only other one in the world that played it a lot.
I love it and a local buddy i grew up with loves it. You are not alone!
Triple Triad is super fun in my opinion. So that makes 3 of us lol
For those who haven't played ff6. Trying to gain massive stat boosts in this game is a waste of time. Even if you go from lvl 1 -99 without ever using stat boosting espers, nothing will be stronger than you. The remastered super bosses like the kaiser dragon and leviathan have all been removed also so there's really no point worrying about it and just enjoy the game for what it is
what if leveling up IS what it is for some people? Yeah. Don't define what fun is for others or what is "what the game is".
@@keiharris332 missed the point but thanks for your invaluable contribution
@@richardbarrett4537 I didn't. Some people like to see their numbers go brr. So again, I'm sorry. Even if you are logically correct, which you are. Some people do things illogical for fun. So dictating what should be fun for them (even if logically, it is a waste of time) is not your place.
@@keiharris332 I didn't dictate what should be fun. What I said was don't think you need to keep your level low until you gain all the espers so you can raise your stats. Personally I will do that because I'm a perfectionist that likes overpowering characters but it doesn't make a difference really as you'll be strong enough to beat any challenge regardless.
I never said don't stat max? Can you quote where I said don't do it? I said it's pointless as you dont need it but I never said not to do it did I? I said don't worry about it and just play the game for what it is. Which means just enjoy the game however. So yes I think you missed the point of what I was saying.
It's not like the last remnant BR system. It's not ff8 where over powering is pretty vital. You don't need to do it.
The entire point of the esper system and stat bonus on espers is being able to manipulate our favorite characters stats into how we want them. What if someone loves Cyan, but hates samurai? Why not raise cyan as a pure mage? Why not turn Strago into a high defence, high physicsl damage tank? Its possible! And many people play this game like that, and nobody is worrying about anything..we are enjoying the game
Even if I am not planning to play this game atm I still want to praise the contents of your videos. Your guides have been extremely helpful to me in mastering all the game mechanics of FF8 which sofar is still my favourite final fantasy game 🙏🏻
It’s the best game of all time
Thank you so much!
Much appreciate the heads up. Just gotta remember this after I finish the first 5 games, lol.
With this remaster I am the farthest I've ever been in VI. I've started it multiple times in the past but have never even made it to the world map until now. I think I'm a tad bit younger than people that got into VI back in the 90's.
My favorite has always been FF7. I'm 40 now, and was 16 when FF7 was first released in the US. Prior to the PS1 console I didn't have much, if any interest in the RPG genre. When VI would have been released I would have been younger than 16 and unable to come up with the patience an RPG requires. The commercials for FF7 were incredible though, it was cinematic, and at the time I couldn't even tell it was an RPG. When I booted up FF7 and saw that it was turn based I was not expecting it and did not like it at first. I soldiered on though (pun intended) and once I beat the guard scorpion and the timer started I was hooked. The rest is history, RPG's to this day are still not my favorite genre, yet FF7 remains my favorite game of all time.
I keep seeing people that love FF7, but like FF6 even more. I am very curious so I'm going to finally try to finish it this time.
On a side note, what he says about your other stats coming from Espers reminds me of FF8 where GF's can increase your stats.
Thanks for sharing your perspective! The only FF game I've never finished is 6, but I think it's time for me to finally change that!
I'm 41... The first game I ever bought with my own money was Final Fantasy... I have loved them, for the most part, ever since... I have to say that, although it is neck and neck between 6 and 7, 6 has always been my personal favorite... The story, the characters, and the main villian... He was so demented... So reprehensible and unredeemable from start to finish, yet relatable in many logical ways... Just an all around wonderful experience...
39 here! Secret Of Mana was my big intro into RPGs in the 90's. Was hooked after that. Mario RPG, Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, and FF 3/6 and 7 are just so amazing to have played back then. Still amazing now of course and I know I left out a ton of truly great RPGs as well, please forgive:) Keep it up on 6. Story really is beautiful.
24 year old european here, yeah from the region who started FF with VII then had to make do with ports of various quality for the first 6 games, until Pixel Remaster set everything right.
RPG patience does come at different ages it seems. As early as 2004 when I was just 6, I was watching my older sister who was 16 play many RPGs, FF 7/8/9/10/10-2 and Kingdom Hearts. That got me interested early and I went through and finished KH1 likely around 2005 and then FF 9 sometime before 2007. Granted, it would take me then many years until I would finish another FF, but now I'm 3 games away from completing all from 1 to 12! ( Excluding 11 altough I found an used PS2 copy for collection... ).
Once again with the PAL region being so late to the party in JRPGs, Seiken Densetsu was actually our first Nintendo RPG in 1993! ( Sega actually was first on the SMS ) It was called Mystic Quest instead of FF Adventure, and was the first JRPG translated to a variety of European languages. The SNES sequel, Secret of Mana would then follow the trend in May 1994... and we would also get FF Mystic Quest, renamed to Mystic Quest Legend and translated. Then... nothing much until that fated late 1997 with the region breaking FF VII.
VI is revered for its incredible late game. It was fucking groundbreaking back then and still is! The game doesnt feel old at all in that regard
I wish this was my first time playing this masterpiece. Still can’t wait for this!
Like my 5 time
I play 3 times of original one
Very informative
Your walkthroughs haven't let me down yet so I guess I will just follow along.
Seeing this video is interesting. I remember playing this game in hs and realizing that I could start maxing out vigor early. I made all my characters into vigor characters and then just ignored magic the entire game. I used berserk in the fanatics tower, and wrecked everything. I even stopped using blitz with Saban, and neglected tools with Edgar too.
I ended up loving systems where I could decide how to build my characters. If a game doesn't offer that, I am not interested at all.
I feel guilty for asking this..since i loved this game so much... But what exactly did vigor do? Either i never knew or i forgot over the years
@@Hatfield1198 it's physical damage for fighters. You can use the esper ifrit to get it when they level up starting at level 20ish. Then, by the time you are in late game, your characters are basically wearing a hyper fist.
I would have never though to use berserk! Genius!
Another good tip for people who have never played the game is not to open any treasure chests till later in the game as generally there contents upgrade after a certain pint in the story and that point is pretty obvious
That's A Good Idea Though I Don't Know If It "Applies" In "This" Version, It Did In The "Original" SNES/PSX Versions. For The "Rune Edge"/"Rune Blade" I Would NOT Reccommend It(Even Though It WOULD CONTAIN A "Ribbon"). The REASON Is Because The "Rune Edge"/"Rune Blade" Is SO GOOD EARLY ON, And You Can EASILY GET MORE "Ribbons"(1 For "Each Character") LATER ON. There's A REALLY EASY TRICK "I" Know Of For "Farming Them" That's Actually NOT THAT HARD To Do. It's A LITTLE LUCK-BASED But It Works Perfectly!
Rune EDGE sucks for the entire game and IS buyable in the WoR Ribbons are more useful and since you need 4x Ribbon users BEFORE fighting the Braciosaurs trying to steal more Ribbons off of those when they can use 6000+ damage Ultima spells is NOT worth it.
+Mr Zepher except for locations that won’t be around in the second half, like Lete River and Serpent Trench.
I played FFVI since it released on SNES and I never knew this leveling mechanic until watching this video. Thank you!
I remember as a kid seeing it and being like Im not wasting my time with that. In the end it really doesnt matter
Thank you for this video. I didn't realize that you need the Espers to increase your stats, I just thought they were bonuses.
One of the things I love most about most Final Fantasy games is the ability to abuse the game systems to create god-tier characters and break the game. Sure it's mostly pointless, but it's fun being able to pretty much one-shot everything at the end game. I did a perfect stats playthrough with FF6 a long time ago but it was with an emulator so I could use and abuse the save-state, not sure I'll have the patience to do it with the Pixel Remaster but I am going to try.
Do you leave Gau in the Veldt prior to going to Vector in the WoB? Is it possible to have Terra rejoin at lvl 5 in pixel remaster? Is it possible to run from battles in the Vector mineshaft? Does it matter when and where you recruit Shadow in the WoB?
Edgar's autocrossbow is the most OP thing in early game, I remember just bombing hoards of enemies with that at 5x speed on an emulator before fighting Vargas.
One advantage to a little bit of grinding early on is that new party members are added to your party at a level that's about equal to what the part is currently -- I think Locke joins at +1 of Terra, Edgar +1 of him, Sabin +2 of the average of the three of them -- something like that. So I don't do a ton of grinding early on, but I might boost them a couple at key moments.
I played it once in like 2001 can’t wait to replay this version
I love this game. I think the focus on gaining power through connecting with summons is really cool, just like ff8.
Even as an idiot child in the 90s I managed to beat the game with my party only at about an average of 4500 HP and I definitely did not understand the stat boosting mechanics of the game - I erroneously concluded Espers were pretty much useless outside of learning spells because summons generally suck in FFVI so I often didn't have Espers equipped once I learned the spells I wanted. I probably received incidental stat boosts but I definitely didn't min/max or seek optimal builds - ffs I had Umaro in my final party against Kefka (facepalm). The game's simply not difficult enough to require strategic leveling outside of speedrunning it - I mean outside of the quadra-slash & the X-magic mechanic your max damage is 9999 so the game doesn't really reward you for min/maxing to an excessive degree.
Lol! I did the same thing (also as in idiot child in the 90's)! I even had Umaro as one of my strong characters.. Except at that time, I couldn't beat the game. I kept getting killed by Kefka's final form lol. It wasn't until years and years later I played the game and I embraced the grind and powered up my characters properly.
@@IamLegend32 Haha - yes of course - Umaro **had** to be good because he’s a super secret abominable snowman - so thought our child brains in the 90s
For dealing the maximum damage possible per turn, you can't beat the Valiant Knife + Offering combination. First, Valiant Knife ignores enemy defence. Second, it deals one additional damage for every HP less than maximum that Locke has. Finally, the Offering relic makes the user hit four times when attacking; normally it also cuts damage in half, but because Valiant Knife uses its own damage calculation that part is ignored.
In this way you can fairly easily have Locke deal 40k damage in a single turn. If you pair the above combo with a Genji Glove and Illumina it's entirely possible to kill Kefka in a single turn before he even starts talking. If you want to be completely certain you can even have Locke cast Quick to get two turns for a total of sixteen attacks, eight of which will deal 9999 damage and the other eight dealing a bit less, but with the possibility of a free Pearl spell.
Heck, this'll even kill the bonus bosses in the GBA version in a single turn.
The only reason I don't equip the Valiant Knife is because I prefer the Atma weapon doing 9999 per ihit and a 9999 max HP and it full equipping BOTH the Valiant Knife AND the Atma weapon will not do 9999 x8 hits in 1 turn.
@@veghesther3204 I like the VK because it comes online as a combo much faster than pretty much any other endgame combo.
Yes, 2x Atma Weapon, Genji Glove, Offering at 9999 HP and level 99 with Quick is the highest possible damage in one turn (at 159,983 damage) but VK is online at a level where you don't even need to grind for it and is still entirely sufficient to kill anything in one turn.
Except I won't be be doing 9999 per VK hits without 9999 max HP anyways and have 1 HP left on Locke that's why I prefer the Atma weapon doing 9999 per hit since Locke Terra Edgar and Celes can all equip it.
@@veghesther3204 You can usually hit the damage cap with VK with 7k HP and decent Vigor. Heck, if you forego the Genji Glove and just use a Muscle Belt you can hit the HP cap trivially, or if you wear a Red Cap you can get to 7/8k just as easily. If you're actively working at it you can hit the damage cap around level 50.
Boosting HP doesn't count say I had 6000 HP normally 9999 WITH the Muscle Belt and had the Atma weapon equipped I'd end up having the Atma weapons damage in that case be based on the 60000 max HP not the boosted 9999.
So with the VK you need 1 HP left and still have max HP WITHOUT using the Red Cap/Muscle belt in order to get 9999 damage out of it.
I didn't hit even 7000 HP by even lv 65.
👍 thanks
I am like you, I don't max everything but I do level specifically with the stat boosts in mind.
While everything said in this video is completely true, it really isn't as scary as it sounds. FFVI really isn't a very hard game and even if you just level up without worrying about this at all, you'll do just fine through the entire game. There's really only one difficulty spike I can remember from my first playthrough and I still managed to beat it after a few attempts without grinding.
I never noticed that your stats dont increase with level ups befores espers. I remember leveling to 99 with Bannon on the river... Now I wish I payed more attention to if they did more damage or not. Thanks for the information.
The damage calculations actually do factor in levels, so they would be dealing more damage even without increased stats.
That doesn't matter even at lv 99 without ANY stat boosts Ultima can still easily do 9999 per hit and thrown weapons and the Drill/Chainsaw tools can easily do 9999 damage as well without ANY esper boosts for ALL 99 lvs.
Cultists tower is the best place to master magic. Each battle gets you around 7 or 9 magic points, even the magic jars that replenish you. You can learn 1% rate spells like Ultima in about 12 battles.
I beat this game as a kid never knowing this…it’s good too know if you wanna max out but I feel like focusing on this takes out the fun…🤷🏻♂️
The best advice i can give for this game is keep an eye on your espers and xp. Learn spells through battles and when a character is about to level up swap out the esper for the stat boost you want. It takes a little extra time but your characters will be a lot stronger by the second half of the game even through just normal play.
This sounds very annoying for very little benefits tbh.
@@armorvil ???? The benefit is having a high tier character build relatively early in the game but ok.
@@zachw2538 But with the way the game calculates damage, levels matter a lot more compared to stats. The only stat worth increasing is magic power (as well as HP maybe), and in the end they don't even make much difference. FF6 isn't hard enough to worry about it, and having to constantly keep track of everyone's Exp to be able to switch espers at the right time, which involves going into the menu again and again (+ trying to prevent characters from leveling up at the same time... ...such a headache in multi-party dungeons) ... ...All this to make everyone gain +2 in magic power is insanely annoying (and very frustrating if you miss a level up, too -- everyone loves resetting the game and flushing some progress down the toilet, am I right?). I personally go the other way around : I assign each magicite to a specific character and I ban the overpowered ones. So a certain character will always get the magic bonuses, another one will always get the HP bonuses, etc. This also has 3 beneficial effects : one it makes every character even more unique since they will know different magic ; two : it makes the colosseum easier to manipulate since some characters will know very little magic (or none at all if you so choose), and three : it makes the game harder (the game is perfectly completeable without Ultima, Meteor, Curaga, Arise, Reraise, Firaga, Blizzaga, Thundaga... ...and having big bosses be an actual challenge is more fun imo, but I've been playing the game since 1994). To each their own anyways.
@@zachw2538 this game is suuuuper easy. It’s probably one of the easiest in the entire series. I never paid attention to my growths via Espers and I was still mowing everything down at any given point in the game. You can easily hit the damage cap without paying attention to this (not that you even need to).
That’s why there’s so many community created challenges (and Espers and magic are usually the first things to go because just their existence already breaks the game enough as it is).
Doing all of this is not worth the effort and someone playing this game for this first time should *not* stress themselves out over this one bit.
Me : here's how to bump your characters stats easily early on.
Every response: no don't do that you don't HAVE to and keeping up with stats is annoying.
Important details.
The levels of your teamates are auto balanced to the overall level of your teamates after the opera scene and when getting characters back in the second world, they are from level 35 to 45. You'll need to grind all of them before completing the floating island, I suggest to level 39 for all except Locke which should be 45.
If you upgrade the Odin esper to Raiden, you lose the chance to upgrade your speed forever.
Zero levels from start to getting the Bismark esper will be challenging.
You can always just use terra until ruin Bismarc, anyone else goes down don't worry just master that runic and timeing when to cast her magic and you can take on a lot at amazingly low lvls
In the pixel remake, they gave Speed+1 to the Quetzalli esper now too so you can go ahead and level up Odin to Raiden without losing the stat boost.
35 to 45? You can beat the Floating Continent in your 20s if you know what you're doing. All the best espers come later so use the Veldt to learn Magic to keep your levels low and just blast your foes.
I remember using a turbo control for the Super Nintendo and stayed in the raft area overnight, I was so strong through the entire game.
I'm exited to play that haha
I found that if you use ZoneSeek and Tritoch for those sweet sweet +2s and +3s to Magic Power, you'll be absolutely unstoppable. All you have to do is make sure that that's the Esper that a character has equipped when they level up, so keep an eye on your EXP totals and you can boost all characters this way while still learning all the spells you need. When I do this, Sabin can one-shot most enemies with Air Blade right at the start of a fight, and it costs nothing to do it. Delightfully broken.
There's A WAY For His "Easy Blitzes" To Execute Them "Easier": Example: Rising Phoenix: Left, Left, Down, Down, Right, Right, Confirm.
Yes but that Trick got removed from the IOS/Android versions of FF6 so even though the Pixel version is based on the SNES/PS1 version I'm not sure if it will work in the Pixel version that and I prefer that Sabin CAN use it against Ultros the FIRST time you fight it.
That requires to do the infinite loop before fighting Ultros the first time until lv 30 at that lv Fire 2 Terra Air Blade and Edgar with Auto Cross Bow will pretty much do enough damage to kill Ultros on your first turn Vs a lv 10 or less party losing the fight when Banon can die in like 1 hit for EVERY attack that hits him.
@@veghesther3204 Yet another reason to try to forget that the Mobile/Steam versions ever existed.
Should note that in the GBA/Steam versions only these espers are available consisting of;
Not sure about the remastered pixel version though yet.
Leviathan - Stamina bonus upon level up 2
Location: Sea between Nikeah and South Figaro (World of Ruin)
Gilgamesh - Strength bonus upon level up 2
Location: Dragon's Neck Coliseum (World of Ruin)
***Must win Excalipoor from Auction House in Jidoor and wager it***
Cactuar - Speed bonus upon level up 2
Location: Desert near Maranda as a random encounter(World of Ruin)
Diabolos - Health Points bonus upon level up 100%
Location: Dragon's Den (World of Ruin)
Hope this helps out a bit more! :)
I can confirm that the Pixel Remaster does not include these Espers.
for VI I generally level to 10 early on with locke and just get a few levels here and there as I never skip battles. Once espers are available as long as everyones under level 20 im good to go. 70 some odd levels for the extra stats isnt bad and makes early game bearable.
Im about to play again but I can't decide if I should play on my Vita or Steam?
I would preferred steam but only if I can play with a PS4 controller
According to the title page, I can play with an Xbox controller but It says other controller support is unknown
Making it a point to avoid all Random Encounters until I get Espers. Even doing a bit of grinding before Espers on the SNES game, I was able to get my Celes strong enough to take out Kefka’s Final Form with only two attack commands at lvl 69. So that’ll be fun to see how much stronger I can make her and see what she’s like at lvl99. Haha
thanks 4 reminding me
Two attack commands? Offering genji glove 8x attacks x2 ?
@@whasian1487 Equipped w/ Illumina and Atma Weapon and at full health. The fight is literally Celes attacks once, Locke steals Mega-elixer, Terra Cure3 and Sabin uses Mega-elixer so Celes is at full health when she attacks again.
As far as stat farming is concerned, the only stat that really helps is Speed. The reason for this is because Final Fantasy VI like several games before it, has a hidden mechanic that affects the damage you do with weapons and spells. That is you get a multiplier to damage from both that increases as you level up. So if you have even close to the best weapons and spells by the end of the game, you're probably doing max damage per hit at max level, unless you are using a Relic that gives you X-Fight, in which case you're doing around 4k per hit (4k times four, so about 16k total).
As for defense, well armor helps with the physical side of that, and also there are pieces of equipment that will increase your resistance to certain elements and give you immunity to status effects and instant death. So again, stat training for defensive purposes is pretty much superfluous. In fact, in earlier versions of the game, you can hurt yourself if you do this too much, due to overflow and end up getting one-shotted by the most basic enemies.
The only stat that is going to benefit you long term is Speed. But unless you're playing the GBA version where the post-game bosses are ludicrously fast, this is also something you don't need to worry about, because nothing ever really gets that much faster in the main game.
When you get your airship back in the second half of the game (you'll know when you're in the second half), just go to the forest that looks like is has a mouth in it, and farm Tyrannosaurs with your initial four party members until they're level 99 (won't take as long as you think). Then get everyone back, saving Gau for last. Everyone but Gau will be at level 99.
STR, MAG, AND SPD All Help. Stamina CAN Help(The WAY "Stamina" Works Is It AFFECTS The "Regen" Spell And Possibly "Poison" Status) But That's ABOUT IT. Also, If Your Playing The "PSX Version", Then For MAXING MP, There's "6" Characters Than CANNOT MAX "MP" Naturally And Those "6 Characters" MUST EQUIP The "Crusader" Esper For "One" Level BEFORE "Level 26" To MAX MP Naturally. For MAXING "HP" Naturally(This Goes For ANY CHARACTER If I Read It Right), You MUST EQUIP The "Bahamut" Esper For "Appropriate" Levels(What THIS MEANS Is You MUST EQUIP The "Esper" ON The "Level" BEFORE The "Level" LISTED). Example: Say It Was FOR "Level 50". You Would EQUIP The "Bahamut" Esper On The "Character" When They Are AT "Level 49". The LEVELS They NEED The "Bahamut" Esper On Are FOR Levels 69, 70, And 71. SO, You Would EQUIP The "Bahamut" Esper On The "Character" STARTING FROM "Level 68" ALL THE WAY TO "Level 71", UNTIL They HIT THAT "Level". Again, That's For ALL 12 Characters(ANY Version Of FF6). BTW, The "6 Characters" That CANNOT MAX "MP" Naturally Are Locke, Cyan, Shadow, Edgar, Sabin, And Setzer(AT LEAST In The "PSX Version"(Not Sure About The "GBA" Or "Pixel Remaster")). In The "SNES Version" The "Calculation" For "MP Maxing" Is "Different".
@@RedMarioXIIINanaki36 stamina also effects if you will dodge certain stat ailments and instant death attacks. Stamina can be very useful for certain coliseum battles
@@AT-qm8gv There's accessories that PREVENT ALL "Status Effects" and some that PREVENT "InstaDeath". You can GET INFINITE "Ribbons" easily too.
@@RedMarioXIIINanaki36 I’m quite aware. I’ve played this game over 70 times. Stamina was thought to be useless but after research it can be quite useful to dedicate one or two coliseum users to stamina when a strategy calls for certain relic setups where you would rather not want to use a ribbon to optimize damage output. Setzer is a great example of someone who should spend time building stamina for his value in the coliseum + fixed dice is random damage. This is for the pixel remaster anyway. In the GBA version he actually gets a legitimate ultimate weapon to where you would actually want to choose it over fixed dice.
i have to ask if this is true about speed, because everyone else suggests magic and strength, and just increasing speed the bare minimum and that it only affects the rate at which the ATB gauge fills up
I remember how the first and only time I did this was on one of the versions that had the cactuar summon available, which gave +2 speed IIRC. If this version has that too, I'll admit that I'd want to make a case of how wonderful the speed stat is.
Cactuar is a gba version only
I love this game
Thankfully FFVI is designed in such a way where having 0 stat upgrades will still result in you having a powerful end-game team. Gear is just as important as the spells you learn if not more so. Gogo and Umaro are the prime examples of this when Espers cannot be given to either, yet are still very competent in their own right. Raw power _always_ scales with Levels.
Vi and Vii definitely had the best level up and combat systems I feel. Not sure what I prefer out of materia and esper spell learning.
What VIII did with the Junction systems was a dumpster fire however.
@@DantGryet As much as I adore VI, VII's Materia management was both a little more complex yet more user friendly at the same time because it is paired up with characters actively gaining stats along with Levels. It also prevented characters from being an acting as samey once Magic gets available to all.
VI also kinda dropped the ball in not giving you a single Esper that can enhance Speed until the later half of the game, though I am glad that they retooled Odin and Quetzali at least to make up for the existence of Cactuar in Advance, to cover for that lack of variety at the time; When enemies are more and more and more prone to acting first as the game goes on, you kinda start to feel like the ATB gauge gets slower over time without Haste/Ga, or any Esper boosts (arguably the Miracles Shoes make up for it further of course).
I feel there would be an adjustment to this in the pixel remaster
I wish it would. It's the only thing I didn't like at all about the game. I would have prefered if the esper you equip gives a bonus depending on the level you have instead of at level up.
My philosophy has always been moderate early farming, but tapering off late game. Late game equipment and spells matter more than levels. Then I say I'm going to use espers when in WoR in the mid-20s then not do it because base FF6 is easy.
@IdleBigots I mean pretty much.
Fun fact. There was an old contest of beating kefka imps. Me I farmed genji gloves, defibrillators and increase atk stats on my 4 damage dealers. Needless to say it was an easy challenge
I typically don't bother with stat maxing because it is such an absolute experience ruining ordeal like this. I did not know that other stats besides HP and MP don't increase at all though without espers so I will definitely try to avoid grinding next playthrough outside the Veldt for AP but I am going to go for the full bestiary though and that will most likely neccessitate some grinding for rare spawns.
cactaurs are better for grinding AP, they give 10AP and no XP
@@rakrakrakrak The Veldt is where I can grind Rages as well and it's available much quicker, Cactaurs aren't available till World of Ruin IIRC.
Option 4: the No Esper challenge. Celes and Terra are your only magic users and no level bonuses.
That's too easy they would still likely do 9999 per Atma weapon hits at lv 99.
Strago is a magic user too, he uses blue magic
I remember min-maxing with my game genie back in the late 90s!
I just downloaded the remasters and the only character I care about making super powerful is Mog. He's my favorite FF character. ❤
There is one thing you forgot to mention that entirely changes what stat you have to focus on: Ultima Weapon!
Spoiler: As Ultima Weapon's damage output is almost entirely dependent on the characters HP (higher the HP the higher the damage output) stats like vigar are useless. So it's good to keep that in mind early on, so you can start boosting stats promptly.
Also, having ninja gauntlet and a few other relics mean you can attack 2 handed (offering), 4 times each with each weapon in hand (4 times) adding. While I usually do this is Sabin, this can also be applied with Ultima Weapon and Excalibur which can output 9999x 8 around mid game. Sadly, FF6 doesn't have a way to break damage limits unlike later games, so 9999 is the most damage that can be done per attack no matter what so once a character hits that point, even if the stat isn't maxed out there's no point grinding into it any more because there will be no benefit - only loss of gain in other stats
Edit: since I forgot they changed the names after the initial release, the ninja gauntlet was renamed to the Genji Glove and the Offering was renamed to Master's Scroll. Grew up with the SNES version and they changed many of the games on later releases 🤷♂️
In the case of the Atma weapon the closer your at to 9999 HP the more damage you get so at lv 60 with around 5000 HP I had the Atma weapon for all 4x hits via the Master scroll only top around 2500 per it to the T rex's/braciosaurs in that 1 forest I only had it to 9999 per hit to the same enemies with at least 8500 max HP.
@@veghesther3204 Too be fair, the T-Rex and Bront are the strongest random encounters (aside from Doomgaze) in the entire game and are the outlier. Yeah, closer to max HP you are the more damage you do, but it also takes into account the enemies defence so most random encounters doing 9999 damage is doable around mid level
LV65 is way more then mid lv but when I fought the encounters on the land part outside that forest like against the 6x Tumble weeds I still didn't have the Atma weapon do 9999 per hit since I only had 5000 or so max HP.
@@veghesther3204 Just for clarification are you playing a port or are you playing the original SNES verison? It matters because they did rebalance a few things and fix a few "bugs" in the ports that changed the combat outputs
For the VK I didn't do 9999 damage per hit with it unless Locke has 9999 max HP 1 HP left on EVERY version of the game SNES/PS1/GBA version, on all 3 I only did 9999 per Atma weapon hits with around 8500 max HP.
However these days I only own the GBA version and the PS1 version of the game via PSN.
No no no dont do what this video suggests. Sure bigger stat numbers look pretty but the way this game handles its calculations level is far far more important that any other number. You are making your team worse for 90% of the game to do sliiiiiightly more damage at the very end when you dont need it
Just play normally, because ff6 is easy to play
I like how your presentation wastes no time, and gets straight to the points.
Kinda reminds me of 9 where stat growth per level is based on equipment and the equipment that gives the best stat growth is the end game equipment
No grind leveling up no espers no stat boost. Just equipment relics and items. The only thing I learned was life 3 so I could have re- raise for the magic tower. This will bring some difficulty to the game. Using gau
Why is the focus for Sabin Magic Power & not Vigor? Is he some secret super mage that I’m not aware of since I originally played that game before having access to the internet?
Late reply, but Sabin's biggest damage blitzes are magical damage, so they benefit from magic power. Even bum rush is non-elemental magic type damage. You will never do more attack damage with a regular "fight" command than you will by using a blitz, so every one of sabin's attacks should come from a blitz. Aura bolt or bum rush for single target, fire dance or air blade for multiple targets.
Hey! Just started Final Fantasy 6 recently (my first FF game) and I stumbled upon your video. Why do you recommend Sabin be maxed out in magic? His attacks appear to be very physical based so I’m wondering if I’ve missed something. Thanks!
Because Sabin's blitz attacks rise power when increasing magic stats not strength stats
@@manofstripes Really? They're all physical attacks so far though. That almost sounds like a programing mistake if that's true.
yeah its been like that since ff3 snes. try it out or use equipment that will increase magic and youll see sabin's blitz attacks are more powerful@@Flareboxx
** Boost works both ways on a scale. You can halve your exp × 0.5, or set it to 0 net entirely. Or you can double x2, or quadruple x4.
If you care about stats, under boost, choose x4 Gil and x4 AP. You won't have to grind to afford gear, and you'll quickly learn helpful spells. Then set your Exp boost at 0.5, or net 0. That way you don't have to kill your cast, or worry about random encounters!
Isn't the original like that too, depending what summons are equiped?
You could also choose to turn off random encounters unless you can't beat a boss without leveling a little, the downside being it will limit the monsters you encounter on the Veldt
Well Fighting Kefka with a full team of Imps with Maxed HP and MP and Stats was so much fun.
No emulator, no game genie nothing.
for me, the best results are still the leveling up in the waterfalls after returner's hideout, putting the controller in Memory, leaving Banon to cure all and the rest to attack, within couple hours in the second choice of path(choosing Right, then you'll be going in circles) they'll be aproximatedly around Lv 45+, and if we see for the context that everyone has a different skill to use, being a little leveled up and not gain a Lot of skill points 'till reach the best spers to level up with aren't that bad at all, it became usefull in the late game against powerful magic spells and hits.
I cant wait till i can play VI on a modern platform this is gonna be great
Are there any other FF games in the pixel remaster collection that have similar min/max pitfalls?
I have an Option 4 approach: Staggered leveling. It kind of combines elements of all of the above but is a bit different as well and is only possible on the pixel remaster. Essentially, you are capping your levels to certain parts of the game. Set Gil and AP to 4x and Exp to 0x in the boost multipliers. This way you can fight battles and still get rewards from them but just no exp until you’re ready. So far I’m playing this on my current run and I’m having a blast. Just make sure you level up Sabin enough during his scenario so that you can Suplex the train 🚂
@@tiagocrypto yes. You can change it at any time. Increments of 0x, 0.5x, 1x, 2x and 4x. Same with Gil and AP.
Only on PS4 and switch version. Steam and mobile do not have those options yet.
@@soaronuthdraco they still don’t. But hey we get AR battle modes😂 useful I guess if you wanna fight battles on your dogs back using the camera 😂
One note: There's also the speed stat, which can be raised by Odin in the late game, and also 2 others in the pixel remaster. Speed is one that should be prioritized to an extent, as it can't be raised through any other means.
a small tip if you were to do some early lving do tarra and cels they can learn fire 2 and ice 2 ( respectively ) and those 2 spells are very useful early on
Gau Can Use Those Too(And MANY OTHER "Spells"/"Special Attacks" That "Nobody Else" Can) With MANY Of His "Rages" And For "Him" It REQUIRES NO MP To Use Them. That's A GREAT BENEFIT!
i was thinking before the returners early but there is alot of chracters that can get around the MP and do a fair bit of damage
@@LOVEPHOENIXDANCER Gau Is "No Exception" Either, That's What I Was "Referring To". A LOT Of People Don't Even "Find" Him "Very Useful" Throughout The Game. He's REALLY GOOD EARLY-GAME And ESPECIALLY GOOD If You Take Him ALONG When You Go For "Vector" When You Take "Celes" And "Locke". Mainly Because HE Can Be One Of Your MAIN "Constant Damage-Dealers". He's One Of The MOST VERSATILE "Characters" In The Game.
Terra also can learn DRAIN shortly after learning Fire 2 Celes however NEVER learns Cure 2 without Espers Terra however CAN learn Cure 2 and Life 1 and 2 without espers.
Is the vanish+doom glitch still present? With that you can grind the T Rex for AP very easy in the World of Balance.
Nope so the best way to kill them is with a lv 99 Celes Terra Locke or Terra their the only ones that can equip the Atma/Ultima weapon sword and you need a MINIMUM of 8500 max HP to get 9999 damage out of it full HP.
Thank you so much for the warning I never played FF6 before so I didn’t know about the stat maxing it’s kinda similar to FF8 i guess but I’m definitely going for the hardcore play through for the perfect stats!
It's irrelevant unless you're going for max stats. If you go for max stats, you'll need to look up the level averaging zones and plan accordingly. You can actually use these zones to eat away excess exp, so you can get more exp on a character without leveling up. I think I was level 6 when I got to the end of the game at which point I recovered every character and had free reign to max stats.
If you do this, The Veldt is your friend. It allows you to learn magic and earn gil without gaining exp. You also want to horde certain items for some select fights "like the pincer attack with the cranes and using rods on them".
But if you aren't doing a level challenge, just focus on the "level average zones" and try to level up everyone evenly when you hit these zones while staggering levels so you can use espers to level them up. It's not really that big of a deal as your Morphed Terra will be doing 9999 damage to everything on screen twice with the Soul of Thamasa as long as you've been raising her magic stat some.
Never had any problem with stats even when i level some extra levels but that was only in the original.
My understanding is that Sabin's blitz's use magic power rather than Vigor. That probably would have been good to point out since this is a newbie guide and would be super confusing if anyone didn't already know this.
That would've got me. I plan on playing ff6 (well all the pixal remasters) when it comes out on switch. I was thinking sabin would need vigor. If I didn't watch this video, I definitely would've made a mistake.
I did the Stat Maxing 100% one time, but never again lol
Now I keep playing with Nr.3 Balanced Approach, much more fun.
This is the greatest RPG of all time
Ok so I'm curious why Sabin was listed as a character to go after M.ATK with? Do claws do elemental damage or something?
ALL of Sabin's Blitz techs are based off his M.Atk stat.
Well almost all Pummel/Raging First and Meteor Strike/Suplex are 100% physical but still by games end both of those suck.
@@veghesther3204 you know what doesn't suck? 2 tiger claws + offering and genji gloves + berserk = 9999 dmg to kefka x8
for me i try to get between lv 12 and 15 by the end of zozo then from 15 to 85 work on stats and top off hp or mp the final 14 levels
I did a playthrough where I tried to maximize every level up once on SNES and I've done a "mindful" playthrough of just being semi proactive with stat bonuses and i've done a don't care remotely run. For better or worse it all boils down to the same by the time you ultima spam but there is some validity to a little boost mid game. If you don't count the pain of running from fights more of a difficulty offset than just dealing with less stats. I do wonder if stats like stamina are broken in the pixel remaster still.
some of the changes sux font size too small menu on left instead of right and no color customizing
Important things to know about FF6.
1. Stat farming with espers is not, in any way, mandatory to beat the game or ANY optional bosses.
2. Stats above 128 are rounded down to 128 so increasing any stat above that is pointless.
3. Early training will not gimp your party, your base stats are more then adequate to beat everything in the game without much difficulty.
4. Speed is the best stat to train, hitting your foe multiple times will do more damage then hitting them once with one strong attack. AKA two attacks of 6000 do more damage then one attack of 9999 for same amount of time taken.
5. Stamina is the least useful stat to train unless you plan to run a regen strategy then by all means go crazy with the stat. (128 max)
6. Terra is primarily a magic based character BUT the choice to make her to powerful physical attacker isn't just there, rather the game does everything it can to make it apparent to you. Terra has access to the best swords in the game, with a bit of strength training and if it were possible to do more then 9999 damage in a single attack the best any character could do is match Terra for damage. Terra is a versatile attacker, and a tank if you want.
7. HP/MP has static growth, its the same for every character at level up for the same level (Example: every character leveling up from 29 to 30 gets 79HP) The only difference in their HP/MP is what they have at level 1, this is why you normally only need 1 or 2 levels of HP/MP esper training to max them out.
8. Unless you have played FF6 before I would STRONGLY recommend just playing through the game without looking up any guides and ignore any of the complicated challenges that people give themselves, getting drowned by the game mechanics (that aren't forced and thus are optional in this case) is just silly for a first playthrough and any game that makes it necessary for you to learn such things for a casual playthrough is just poorly designed or darksouls (Or games of a similar ilk).
9. All the information in this video or my post is not unique to the Pixel Remaster, rather is it's just regurgitated information for ANY version of the game, with the exception of unique changes to the version, any guide you look up will tell you same thing, outside of personal opinion that is.
10. FF6 is a great game but making a video on a version of the game you know nothing about so focus on the information that is already out there and has been for over 20 years is nothing more then a shameless cash grab. Had you predicted that you would have had diagonal movement in this version because every other Pixel Remaster version has it then you would have added something of value to this, but I guess if you have nothing original to say then repeating 20+ year old information is the next best thing. And yes I see the irony of me doing the same thing, but at least I'm not making a shameless cash grab.
Well said
Once your characters reach the 80's in level, it doesn't even matter what your stats are. My first playthrough off FF 3 in the 90's, my characters were only in the low 70's, and I still kicked the snot out of everyone I fought. The stat bonuses are just a bonus, not a requirement.
I just downloaded the final fantasy pixel remastered collection which is actually 6 individual games but where I'm going in for surgery and I am having more surgeries then I was thinking. I now have megaman battle network legacy collection and now the first 6 final fantasy games. I played final fantasy 3 on DS and they messed it up. I don't know if the opening cutscenes were originally in the original games.
I only cared about Bahamut to get Celes to 9999hp so she would always do max damage with Atma Weapon. Combined with the Offering could basically 1-2tko anything.
I did the same for Terra/Locke/Edgar despite NEVER stealing it ON the GBA version where you get to Keep the Stolen items from the last bosses.
Sabin magic power???? Sabin was always my main physical attacker back on the SNES when I was young. Loved those 8x claw attacks
I was thinking the same!
Most of Sabin’s Blitz techs scale off his magic power.
Back when I was a wee lad, I once did the lete River trick to hit level 99 with a turbo controller. Even though I had no espers at all, I had no trouble dominating the game with things like Ultima from Terra and Meteor from Celes. All this fine tuning would matter more if you could break 9999, but you can't..
For "Low Level Runners" You Can DO A TRICK With That Using "Banon". Simply KILL OFF EVERYONE ELSE And LET "Banon" LEVEL To SUCH An OBSCENELY HIGH LEVEL. Or, You Can LEAVE The "Returner Hideout"(Maybe?) And DO The "Same Thing" Like On The "World Map". Then He REALLY COULD NOT "Die" SO EASILY.
Sadly no once you JUMP into that river your out of luck but Banons physical damage SUCKS and the river enemies still give out more exp/gold I'm sure if Banon hits lv 99 with Terra Sabin Edgar dead Celes/Cyan/Shadow would first still join at lv 99 as well.
@@veghesther3204 I don't think so. I've never tried it, but I don't think so. I do know when you do the Lete River trick normally, Locke is still level 16 or whatever, and Celes joins at level 83 or so.
It depends I used the trick for a full lv 36 party and had Locke Rejoin at lv 10 the lv I left him at and Celes around lv 31
If you lved to lv 99 for Terra Sabin Edgar Celes would likely first join at lv 94 but Cyan/Shadow would both be at lv 99.
@@veghesther3204 In my experience, it was an average, and Locke being so low, at level 16, knocked pretty much all the non Terra/Edgar/Sabin down to 83.
OMG when I played this as a kid I had no idea that ONLY espers granted stay boosts.
>stats dont increase
.... But my characters DO deal more damage though. When idle grinding with banon on the river they go from needing several hits to kill the enemies to start killing them in one hit after a dozen levels. What's determining the damage dealt if only HP and MP are being increased?
The level. The damage formula takes into consideration also the character level.
saving level ups is a bit too tryhard for an already easy game. You can get through the game fine without worrying about Espers and if you wanna grind it's not a huge deal. You get some pretty OP stuff late game anyway so it won't matter too much.